This man is a beast, and we'll be playing him coming this Sunday

[The Snake]

Wow.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7487216479616325959&q=redskins

[GreatBronco16]

He sure does like to tackle by the other guys helmet. I mean he jumps and just wraps his hands around their heads. Hmmm, I'm sure he will be cut down a few times this Sunday.

[Cleo McDowell]

WOW. all i can say.

[easymobee]

Good Vid.

He's a dynamic player.

Smart as a bag of rocks, but a dynamic player nonetheless .....

[Ratboy]

He's a thug.

[2KBack]

He's a thug.


Agreed, half of those highlights were facemasks and late hits. Gifted guy, but a thug

[Cleo McDowell]

a thug so be it. ill take him any day of the week. its about football players, not choirboys.

[Kaylore]

Tough player. Even with some of those penalty shots he makes receivers think twice.

[ClevelandBronco2]

This guy should have played for the Raiders in the '70s. Tough stuff.

[-Slap-]

Shouldn't we merge this with the Wonderlic thread?

[Orange_Beard]

Picks are impressive,
Lynch hits harder.

[DrFate]

He is a playmaker, but does tend to freelance.

He always seems to tackle high - wonder if that leads to missed tackles?

[Edskins_RVA]

Just for the record, Sean is playing w/ much more discipline this year.. He hasn't made quite as many spectacular plays so far this year, but he has been super solid. He also hasn't been called for any unneccessary roughness penalties..

In fact, he was out of the game last weekend (banged up shoulder) when Seattle had their long drive to tie up the game. Maybe they would have been stopped had he been in the game (don't even get me started on Lavar)...

FYI - Sean Taylor is now #21 this year, not #36 (so you guys can know who's laying the wood on Smith, Anderson, Plummer & the boys)..

Nnyah!

[-Slap-]

Just for the record, Sean is playing w/ much more discipline this year.. He hasn't made quite as many spectacular plays so far this year, but he has been super solid. He also hasn't been called for any unneccessary roughness penalties..

In fact, he was out of the game last weekend (banged up shoulder) when Seattle had their long drive to tie up the game. Maybe they would have been stopped had he been in the game (don't even get me started on Lavar)...

FYI - Sean Taylor is now #21 this year, not #36 (so you guys can know who's laying the wood on Smith, Anderson, Plummer & the boys)..

Nnyah!
He shoot anybody lately?

[Edskins_RVA]

He shoot anybody lately?

Go ask Todd Pinkston...

[Broncoman13]

He shoot anybody lately?


Baby cuz I'm a thug............... I don't know................What's it gonna be...

[Ratboy]

Just for the record, Sean is playing w/ much more discipline this year.. He hasn't made quite as many spectacular plays so far this year, but he has been super solid. He also hasn't been called for any unneccessary roughness penalties..

In fact, he was out of the game last weekend (banged up shoulder) when Seattle had their long drive to tie up the game. Maybe they would have been stopped had he been in the game (don't even get me started on Lavar)...

FYI - Sean Taylor is now #21 this year, not #36 (so you guys can know who's laying the wood on Smith, Anderson, Plummer & the boys)..

Nnyah!

He's still a thug.

[Edskins_RVA]

Maybe, but he's OUR thug! :)

[STaylor#21]

Picks are impressive,
Lynch hits harder.

LOL, Lynch is so washed up, nobody fears him anymore. Taylor is a freak, anyone coming across the middle is going to get destroyed. I feel bad for your guys if they come across the middle. Taylor and Ryan Clark, who might i add cracked Bobby Ingram's ribs on Sunday, are going to lay some big hits come Sunday.

[Rulon Velvet Jones]

I want that 3:32 of my life back.

And who cares about Taylor? Denver doesn't know how to throw it that deep to get to him anyway.

[Rascal]

Lynch..nobody fears him anymore.

You might want to go ask D Hall about that before making asinine statements. But coming from a pig fan what can you expect.

[Rascal]

If you consider late hits, facemasks, spearing, etc the marks of a good football player then yes he is a stud.

[Edskins_RVA]

I want that 3:32 of my life back.

And who cares about Taylor? Denver doesn't know how to throw it that deep to get to him anyway.

So you are saying that Taylor can only defend the deep pass?! Okkk.....

Ask Todd Pinkston about coming across the middle on an intermediate route.. The term alligator arms was coined for just such an episode..

[Edskins_RVA]

If you consider late hits, facemasks, spearing, etc the marks of a good football player then yes he is a stud.

Nobody says Rodney Harrison isn't a good player.. What's your point?

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Pick six!

[Connecticut Bronco Fan]

Nobody says Rodney Harrison isn't a good player.. What's your point?

Rodney Harrison isn't a good player.

[Edskins_RVA]

Rodney Harrison isn't a good player.

Ok, so there is 1 person who thinks so.. Guess that's why he's the defensive leader of the world champs. Because he sucks... I though Bronco fans were supposed to be smarter than Raider fans?! WTF?! :)

[Rohirrim]

Now if they can just keep him out of jail.

[Rulon Velvet Jones]

So you are saying that Taylor can only defend the deep pass?! Okkk.....

Ask Todd Pinkston about coming across the middle on an intermediate route.. The term alligator arms was coined for just such an episode..

Who gives a **** about Pinkston? The guy has never seen a pass he couldn't duck under.

[Connecticut Bronco Fan]

Ok, so there is 1 person who thinks so.. Guess that's why he's the defensive leader of the world champs. Because he sucks... I though Bronco fans were supposed to be smarter than Raider fans?! WTF?! :)

Tedy Bruschi is the leader of the world champion defense. I live in Connecticut, and often watch the Patriots Play (huge Bias to them up here) and Rodney Harrisons play does not impress me. <shrug>

[Edskins_RVA]

Who gives a **** about Pinkston? The guy has never seen a pass he couldn't duck under.

It's a reference to the Skins/Philly game last year. Pinkston came across the middle on a quick slant and Sean spread him across the field like butter. Philly tried the play later in the game and when Pinkston came across he saw Sean heading right towards him. He proceeded to pull up on his route, alligator arm it, and look like a scared little fool in front of thousands.. He was benched shortly after that and eventually was cut..

[Edskins_RVA]

Tedy Bruschi is the leader of the world champion defense. I live in Connecticut, and often watch the Patriots Play (huge Bias to them up here) and Rodney Harrisons play does not impress me. <shrug>

Not sure if you noticed that Bruschi is not playing.. So I guess Madden and all the other commentators are wrong when the call Harrison the "veteran" or "emotional" leader of the defense.. I'll defer to you on this one... :crazy:

[Connecticut Bronco Fan]

It's a reference to the Skins/Philly came last year. Pinkston came across the middle on a quick slant and Sean spread him across the field like butter. Philly tried the play later in the game and when Pinkston came across he saw Sean heading right towards him. He proceeded to pull up on his route, alligator arm it, and look like a scared little fool in front of thousands.. He was benched shortly after that and eventually was cut..

He was not cut. hes on IR. =) http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/team/

[Connecticut Bronco Fan]

Not sure if you noticed that Bruschi is not playing.. So I guess Madden and all the other commentators are wrong when the call Harrison the "veteran" or "emotional" leader of the defense.. I'll defer to you on this one... :crazy:

hard to be the leader in your wheelchair.

[Ratboy]

Didn't Philly sweep the Redskins last season? Who cares if Taylor "made him" not catch the ball, They still threw you guys under the rug.

[MistrSynistr]

Huh? What are you doing posting this propoganda garbage on the Bronco's messageboards? I currently live in D.C. and they blow EVERYTHING out of proportion here...we don't need you doing it as well. This guys a joke, he doesn't show up to practices, and he tosses money up in the air at gas stations and I quote saying: "I'll buy this b*tch."

Sean Taylor? N*gga PLEASE. :TJnPopps:

This team won horrendous games this year. A pIss-poor field goal game against the BEARS, a dumb luck end of the game stunner because Dallas QUIT because the 'Skins were playing like CRAP all game, and it took an ex-NEW YORK JET to finally call the plays, because Gibbs couldn't do it..."Coach, seriously, I'm wide open on this route...throw it to me, what do we have to lose?" And then an overtime blunder because the Seahawks had the game in the bag and missed a field goal.

We're going to trounce and pounce all over this team...anyone, even their fans, who think otherwise are delusional. The Redskins are over-hyped and overrated every single year. This won't be any different. :flush:

[Edskins_RVA]

He was not cut. hes on IR. =) http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/team/

He was on his way to being cut before he got hurt. He made it easy on Philly..

[Spider]

LOL, Lynch is so washed up, nobody fears him anymore. Taylor is a freak, anyone coming across the middle is going to get destroyed. I feel bad for your guys if they come across the middle. Taylor and Ryan Clark, who might i add cracked Bobby Ingram's ribs on Sunday, are going to lay some big hits come Sunday.
what in the hell are you smoking ?

[Edskins_RVA]

hard to be the leader in your wheelchair.

Obviously before he got hurt.. jeez Do you even remember the context that Rodney Harrison was brought up in?!

[ozomulsion]

Not sure if you noticed that Bruschi is not playing.. So I guess Madden and all the other commentators are wrong when the call Harrison the "veteran" or "emotional" leader of the defense.. I'll defer to you on this one... :crazy:
I do concur, Harrison was the heart and sole of that defense.

[Edskins_RVA]

Didn't Philly sweep the Redskins last season? Who cares if Taylor "made him" not catch the ball, They still threw you guys under the rug.

Not the point idiot!

[Ratboy]

Pinkston had 106 the first game and 99 the 2nd game.

[Edskins_RVA]

Huh? What are you doing posting this propoganda garbage on the Bronco's messageboards? I currently live in D.C. and they blow EVERYTHING out of proportion here...we don't need you doing it as well. This guys a joke, he doesn't show up to practices, and he tosses money up in the air at gas stations and I quote saying: "I'll buy this b*tch."

Sean Taylor? N*gga PLEASE. :TJnPopps:

This team won horrendous games this year. A pIss-poor field goal game against the BEARS, a dumb luck end of the game stunner because Dallas QUIT because the 'Skins were playing like CRAP all game, and it took an ex-NEW YORK JET to finally call the plays, because Gibbs couldn't do it..."Coach, seriously, I'm wide open on this route...throw it to me, what do we have to lose?" And then an overtime blunder because the Seahawks had the game in the bag and missed a field goal.

We're going to trounce and pounce all over this team...anyone, even their fans, who think otherwise are delusional. The Redskins are over-hyped and overrated every single year. This won't be any different. :flush:

blah, blah

[Ratboy]

I do agree, Sean Taylor is awesome. He's a thug though.

[Edskins_RVA]

Pinkston had 106 the first game and 99 the 2nd game.

Context: We were discussing the fear that Sean Taylor puts in receivers because he is a beast of a hitter. Pinkston was just my example... (sigh)

[Edskins_RVA]

I do agree, Sean Taylor is awesome. He's a thug though.

There's a reasonable comment!! :)

[Spider]

Here is more

[Mile High Shack]

So you are saying that Taylor can only defend the deep pass?! Okkk.....

Ask Todd Pinkston about coming across the middle on an intermediate route.. The term alligator arms was coined for just such an episode..

I good stiff breeze could scare Pinkston

[Spider]

LOL ....... Gee I wonder if Dallas Clark agrees Lynch doesnt hit hard ...Hilarious!

[Edskins_RVA]

I good stiff breeze could scare Pinkston
Especially after what Sean did to him last year.. :)

[Mile High Shack]

Especially after what Sean did to him last year.. :)
Ummm

When you think of tough receivers

Todd (160 lbs soaking wet) Pinkston does not come to mind

now more accurate would be the guy who got the gun pulled on him by Taylor

I'm sure that guys is afraid of Taylor too

[epicSocialism4tw]

LOL ....... Gee I wonder if Dallas Clark agrees Lynch doesnt hit hard ...Hilarious!

Looks like Lynch almost broke that poor guys neck. What a hit.

Lynch does have a problem with leading with his head too much. He better be willing to take the fines.

[dj_stouty]

LOL ....... Gee I wonder if Dallas Clark agrees Lynch doesnt hit hard ...Hilarious!

Those three videos are the kind that the league shows to rookies before the season starts on what is considered an ILLEGAL helmet-to-helmet hit.

[Spider]

Looks like Lynch almost broke that poor guys neck. What a hit.

Lynch does have a problem with leading with his head too much. He better be willing to take the fines.
only that was a clean hit on Clark in my opinion , clark grabs the rock , makes a football move , he is no longer a defenceless reciever ........ but yeah Lynch will lead with his head ;D

[Edskins_RVA]

Ummm

When you think of tough receivers

Todd (160 lbs soaking wet) Pinkston does not come to mind

now more accurate would be the guy who got the gun pulled on him by Taylor

I'm sure that guys is afraid of Taylor too
You are so witty!! :strong: I'm in awe... Much like Pinkton after Taylor spread him all over the field.

[Ratboy]

Those three videos are the kind that the league shows to rookies before the season starts on what is considered an ILLEGAL helmet-to-helmet hit.

And grabbing the face mask to tackle isnt illegal. Niether is shooting up a house.

[Edskins_RVA]

And grabbing the face mask to tackle isnt illegal. Niether is shooting up a house.
So, basically you are out of substance to talk about..

[Spider]

Those three videos are the kind that the league shows to rookies before the season starts on what is considered an ILLEGAL helmet-to-helmet hit.
on Running back ?
oh and if Hall doesnt drop the ball and Clark those were "Clean hits" Lynch was flaged for hitting defenseless recievers ....... But the point was Lynch doesnt hit hard , I think I have shown Lynch will take your head off .......

[Mile High Shack]

You are so witty!! :strong: I'm in awe... Much like Pinkton after Taylor spread him all over the field.

why were Taylor and Pinkston making gay porn on the field?

[Edskins_RVA]

on Running back ?
oh and if Hall doesnt drop the ball and Clark those were "Clean hits" Lynch was flaged for hitting defenseless recievers ....... But the point was Lynch doesnt hit hard , I think I have shown Lynch will take your head off .......
Agreed! (People are losing context here left & right) Taylor & Lynch are 2 of the hardest hitting safeties in the game..

[Edskins_RVA]

why were Taylor and Pinkston making gay porn on the field?
Because your dad has worn out all his other videos and needed some fresh stimulation.. :)

[Spider]

Agreed! (People are losing context here left & right) Taylor & Lynch are 2 of the hardest hitting safeties in the game..
;D I wouldnt want either of them hitting me ........

[dj_stouty]

on Running back ?
oh and if Hall doesnt drop the ball and Clark those were "Clean hits" Lynch was flaged for hitting defenseless recievers ....... But the point was Lynch doesnt hit hard , I think I have shown Lynch will take your head off .......

I agree 100% that Lynch is a hard hitter...but you could have used different videos to portray that. Not the clearly illegal ones. At any rate, I think Taylor is more feared than Lynch.

Ratboy - I have seen Taylor get one facemask tackle...and that was early last season. Just one. The hit on McNabb you saw in the video; he pulled him down by this shoulder pads.

[Edskins_RVA]

I agree 100% that Lynch is a hard hitter...but you could have used different videos to portray that. Not the clearly illegal ones. At any rate, I think Taylor is more feared than Lynch.

Ratboy - I have seen Taylor get one facemask tackle...and that was early last season. Just one. The hit on McNabb you saw in the video; he pulled him down by this shoulder pads.
Don't confuse him with facts... :)

[epicSocialism4tw]

only that was a clean hit on Clark in my opinion , clark grabs the rock , makes a football move , he is no longer a defenceless reciever ........ but yeah Lynch will lead with his head ;D

The guy is like a ram in full strike. Look at how he evens out his back and goes in straight. It looks like he aims for the spot between the football and the head. Im surprised that he hasnt knocked more people out. It's like a KO punch to the chin.

[Spider]

I agree 100% that Lynch is a hard hitter...but you could have used different videos to portray that. Not the clearly illegal ones. At any rate, I think Taylor is more feared than Lynch.


LOL first off 1 of the Videos is Lynch Laying wood on LT2 , a running back ,So I dont know what was clearly illegal about that , The clip on Hall and clark are a tad bit more complex , so I realy dont expect you to pick up on the real foul there ........ See Lynch wasnt flagged for H2H He was flagged for hitting a defensless reciever , and if Hall and clark hold on to the rock , then there is no flag .......

[Spider]

Don't confuse him with facts... :)
LOL .... if you say so , I had to educate a few of your fellow Deadskins on the chop block vs the cut block .......

[Edskins_RVA]

LOL .... if you say so , I had to educate a few of your fellow Deadskins on the chop block vs the cut block .......
I was referring to the info about Sean Taylor & the supposed "facemask"..

You guys will be explaining/defending cut vs. chop for quite some time.. :)

[Spider]

I was referring to the info about Sean Taylor & the supposed "facemask"..


You guys will be explaining/defending cut vs. chop for quite some time.. :)
;D we have been for awhile now .....

[SkinsandTerps]

H2H hits are illegal no matter who takes the hit. RB, WR, QB, TE, Etc.

A player can not use his helmet as a weapon.

[dj_stouty]

I was referring to the info about Sean Taylor & the supposed "facemask"..

You guys will be explaining/defending cut vs. chop for quite some time.. :)

Denver fans can all recite the difference between a cut block and a chop block...so when the illegal version happens on the field, they can try and convince every it was the legal version.

[Spider]

H2H hits are illegal no matter who takes the hit. RB, WR, QB, TE, Etc.

A player can not use his helmet as a weapon.
Hilarious!

[epicSocialism4tw]

H2H hits are illegal no matter who takes the hit. RB, WR, QB, TE, Etc.

A player can not use his helmet as a weapon.

That's not true. Spider should be able to clear this one up for ya. Ill let him work his magic.

[Spider]

Denver fans can all recite the difference between a cut block and a chop block...so when the illegal version happens on the field, they can try and convince every it was the legal version.
LOL ...... I guess you dont know the difference in the 2 either ......

[Spider]

That's not true. Spider should be able to clear this one up for ya. Ill let him work his magic.
LOL ..... I will just laugh at his statement .....

[Broncoman13]

H2H hits are illegal no matter who takes the hit. RB, WR, QB, TE, Etc.

A player can not use his helmet as a weapon.


Just goes to show you how ignorant Skins fans are.... do you other Skins fans claim this guy as your own?

[RedskinsDave]

And grabbing the face mask to tackle isnt illegal. Niether is shooting up a house.

You've mentioned this before. Care to tell me who shot up a house? It wasn't a Redskin.

[SkinsandTerps]

Just goes to show you how ignorant Skins fans are.... do you other Skins fans claim this guy as your own?

Ignorant ?

A QB that is in the act of throwing or there was a turnover on the play.
A WR/TE who is in the act of making a catch.
A RB who is in grasp without further forward momentum.
A KR/PR who is in the act of catching.
Or any downed player (spearing).

Geez.

[Broncoman13]

15 Yard penalties:

1. Chop block.

2. Clipping below the waist.

3. Fair catch interference.

4. Illegal crackback block by offense.

5. Piling on.

6. Roughing the kicker.

7. Roughing the passer.

8. Twisting, turning, or pulling an opponent by the facemask.

9. Unnecessary roughness.

10. Unsportsmanlike conduct.

11. Delay of game at start of either half.

12. Illegal low block.

13. A tackler using his helmet to butt, spear, or ram an opponent without the ball.

14. Any player who uses the top of his helmet unnecessarily.

15. A punter, placekicker, or holder who simulates being roughed by a defensive player.

16. Leaping.

17. Leverage.

18. Any player who removes his helmet after a play while on the field.

19. Taunting.

[Mile High Shack]

H2H hits are illegal no matter who takes the hit. RB, WR, QB, TE, Etc.

A player can not use his helmet as a weapon.

helmet to helmet hits aren't illegal if the player is making a football move

did you watch the MNF game, even Madden, who it seems Skins fans rely on for their info said H2H hits are legal on ball carriers, just not QBs (in the pocket) and defensless receivers

[Broncoman13]

H2H hits are illegal no matter who takes the hit. RB, WR, QB, TE, Etc.

A player can not use his helmet as a weapon.


Yes, this statment is IGNORANT. Do you know how many penalties there would be in a game if they called helmet to helmet every time a RB ran up the middle?

You need to get an understanding of the game...when you do, come on back and talk football. Until then QUIT POSTING BS!

[dj_stouty]

You've mentioned this before. Care to tell me who shot up a house? It wasn't a Redskin.

He doesn't know.

Heck...he probably forgot that Denver's strong safety, Samuel T. Brandon, was arrested earlier in the year for hitting and biting his girlfriend.

[NYBroncoManiac]

blah, blah


Ooooo.... nice comeback.

No, I mean it... really... your intellectual retort here really threw me for a loop.

[Broncoman13]

You've mentioned this before. Care to tell me who shot up a house? It wasn't a Redskin.


That assclown Sean Taylor would rape your mom and sister if you weren't watching...but keep on giving him props if that's your passion!

[SkinsandTerps]

helmet to helmet hits aren't illegal if the player is making a football move

did you watch the MNF game, even Madden, who it seems Skins fans rely on for their info said H2H hits are legal on ball carriers, just not QBs (in the pocket) and defensless receivers

Madden ? Maybe you learn from Madden. I have no interest in what he has to say.

Where did I say anything about them NOT making a fooball move. I understand clearly when it is and isnt a penalty.

[Broncoman13]

Ooooo.... nice comeback.

No, I mean it... really... your intellectual retort here really threw me for a loop.


How do you respond to that... It's like fighting with your kids, you know you can reason with a two year old and eventually just say Fvck it...have it your way. Ha! Skins fans are great!!! :militia:

[dj_stouty]

That assclown Sean Taylor would rape your mom and sister if you weren't watching...but keep on giving him props if that's your passion!

I think you got Taylor confused with Dwayne Carswell...

[Broncoman13]

Madden ? Maybe you learn from Madden. I have no interest in what he has to say.

Where did I say anything about them NOT making a fooball move. I understand clearly when it is and isnt a penalty.


Dude, do you not recall posting this!!!

H2H hits are illegal no matter who takes the hit. RB, WR, QB, TE, Etc.

A player can not use his helmet as a weapon.

Those are your words! ........illegal no matter who take the hit.......

It was an ignorant comment and shows that either you made a mistake and stuck your dick in your mouth, or just really don't know the game!

[SkinsandTerps]

Yes, this statment is IGNORANT. Do you know how many penalties there would be in a game if they called helmet to helmet every time a RB ran up the middle?

You need to get an understanding of the game...when you do, come on back and talk football. Until then QUIT POSTING BS!

I try to be reasonable.

Did I state that every hit was illegal ? No. Maybe I should have made it a little clearer (understandable, my mistake) and easier for some to understand.

[Broncoman13]

I think you got Taylor confused with Dwayne Carswell...


Ahhh yes... and we're on here talking up House Carswell aren't we. Go ahead and find his name in this thread and I'll drop the subject. Seems that this thread was started to talk about Sean Taylor.....

[Spider]

Dude, do you not recall posting this!!!

H2H hits are illegal no matter who takes the hit. RB, WR, QB, TE, Etc.

A player can not use his helmet as a weapon.

Those are your words! ........illegal no matter who take the hit.......

It was an ignorant comment and shows that either you made a mistake and stuck your dick in your mouth, or just really don't know the game!
Thats why I just laughed , nyone that posted that statement realy doesnt understand the game , and I realy dont feel like educating them , I Educate , then they go watch ESPN and get all confused again ........

[Mile High Shack]

Madden ? Maybe you learn from Madden. I have no interest in what he has to say.

Where did I say anything about them NOT making a fooball move. I understand clearly when it is and isnt a penalty.

no, you don't b/c you said this

Originally Posted by SkinsandTerps
H2H hits are illegal no matter who takes the hit. RB, WR, QB, TE, Etc.

A player can not use his helmet as a weapon.

incidental contact by the helmet is not using it as a weapon dumbass

[Spider]

Could you imagine SkinsN Terps as a Ref in the redzone ? Hilarious!

[Mile High Shack]

Could you imagine SkinsN Terps as a Ref in the redzone ? Hilarious!

every defensive player in the NFL would be fined every week

[Spider]

every defensive player in the NFL would be fined every week
LOL ... Untied way would be damn happy though

[SkinsandTerps]

Any player can take an illegal hit. What part of that dont you guys understand ?

Slow around these parts, huh.

I know that the rule is for defenseless players only , however ANY PLAYER can be defenseless.

[dj_stouty]

Ahhh yes... and we're on here talking up House Carswell aren't we. Go ahead and find his name in this thread and I'll drop the subject. Seems that this thread was started to talk about Sean Taylor.....

Nice way to sidestep it.

People here are quick to call Taylor a "thug"...but there are just as many in your own backyard.

[Spider]

Any player can take an illegal hit. What part of that dont you guys understand ?
We didnt claim they couldnt take an Illegal hit , But a RB comming acrossed the LOS ,, is a football move goof .........

Slow around these parts, huh. Funny I was about to say the same about DC ..... but then with all those politcians running around it can only be expected from that part of the country .......

I know that the rule is for defenseless players only , however ANY PLAYER can be defenseless.
LOL , more back peddaling . your original comment was pretty bad , I dont blame you for trying to correct your dumb ass thinking though ........

[Broncoman13]

Whatever..... Sounds like a dumbass, writes like a dumbass.... any chance it could be a dumbass???



Originally Posted by SkinsandTerps
H2H hits are illegal no matter who takes the hit. RB, WR, QB, TE, Etc.

A player can not use his helmet as a weapon.

[Broncoman13]

Nice way to sidestep it.

People here are quick to call Taylor a "thug"...but there are just as many in your own backyard.


Sidestep? Its a fact genius. This thread was devoted to talking about the "beast" Sean Taylor.

I guess if I said none of our players were faced with three years prison I'd be sidestepping the issue huh. Perhaps if you went to the Ravens board you could make your case...

[SkinsandTerps]

We didnt claim they couldnt take an Illegal hit , But a RB comming acrossed the LOS ,, is a football move goof .........

LOL , more back peddaling . your original comment was pretty bad , I dont blame you for trying to correct your dumb ass thinking though ........

A RB even in the backfield with no further forward motion taking a H2H is illegal. I am not saying that the rules are feverishly enforced. I am stating that is the rule.

Not back pedaling at all. As I stated in an earlier post, maybe I did not make it clear enough what I was trying to say, and admitted it was a mistake.

[SkinsandTerps]

Whatever..... Sounds like a dumbass, writes like a dumbass.... any chance it could be a dumbass???


Obviously comprehension is something you have issues with.

[Spider]

A RB even in the backfield with no further forward motion taking a H2H is illegal. I am not saying that the rules are feverishly enforced. I am stating that is the rule. and in that clip of Lynch hitting LT2 would you care to show me where LT2 foward motion was stopped before Lynch hit ?

Not back pedaling at all. As I stated in an earlier post, maybe I did not make it clear enough what I was trying to say, and admitted it was a mistake.
Fair enough .......

[SkinsandTerps]

and in that clip of Lynch hitting LT2 would you care to show me where LT2 foward motion was stopped before Lynch hit ?


I never commented on the Lynch hits. Were the Broncos penalized for that ? Is that why you are asking ?

Looks legal to me.

[NYBroncoManiac]

From September 9...

Sean Taylor has had his trial date, originally set for Monday, postponed until Oct. 24, according to the Washington Post. Taylor has been charged with one count of aggravated assault with a firearm and one misdemeanor count of simple battery after a June 1 confrontation between two groups in a Miami neighborhood.

[Edskins_RVA]

From September 9...

Sean Taylor has had his trial date, originally set for Monday, postponed until Oct. 24, according to the Washington Post. Taylor has been charged with one count of aggravated assault with a firearm and one misdemeanor count of simple battery after a June 1 confrontation between two groups in a Miami neighborhood.


Notice the words "Charged with".. Anyone can be charged with anything.. Whether or not you are convicted is the important part...

[Spider]

I never commented on the Lynch hits. Were the Broncos penalized for that ? Is that why you are asking ?

Looks legal to me.
No ...not at all a skins fan said that hit was illegal , he wasnt flagged , thats when I started parsing what was and wasnt legal as far as the hit ....... The Hall and Clark hits were late flags and Lynch was flaged for hitting a defensless reciever ..... but the over all point was a skins fan said Lynch wasnt a hitter , so I posted those clips to show Lynch will hit .. ;D

[NYBroncoManiac]

Nice way to sidestep it.

People here are quick to call Taylor a "thug"...but there are just as many in your own backyard.


But the thread is about Taylor... if you's like to talk about one of our thugs, start a thread about him...

In other words (and read this slowly, so it's easier to understand, ok?):

Whether or not Carswell is a thug has no bearing on Taylor being a thug.

get it? You can't go through life saying "It's ok if my guy does this, cuz I know other people are doing it too."

Awwww crap... I just wasted another 3 minutes of my life trying to talk sense to someone who has none.

[Broncoman13]

Notice the words "Charged with".. Anyone can be charged with anything.. Whether or not you are convicted is the important part...


Wrong again dipshiat... Dade Co or any other county for that matter does not CHARGE somebody without the ability to prove it in court. If they felt they could not prove his criminal behavior he wouldn't be charged. As for anybdoy being charged, if you are saying that anybody that commits a crime...well then yes you're correct.

[NYBroncoManiac]

Notice the words "Charged with".. Anyone can be charged with anything.. Whether or not you are convicted is the important part...


Ummm... ok... if that's the fairy land you want to live in, then, good for you. I guess the Miami-Dade state attorney's office is just making this all up, eh?

[RedskinsDave]

That assclown Sean Taylor would rape your mom and sister if you weren't watching...but keep on giving him props if that's your passion!

To anyone who questions the intelligence of Skins fans I offer you one of your own. thwack

[SkinsandTerps]

No ...not at all a skins fan said that hit was illegal , he wasnt flagged , thats when I started parsing what was and wasnt legal as far as the hit ....... The Hall and Clark hits were late flags and Lynch was flaged for hitting a defensless reciever ..... but the over all point was a skins fan said Lynch wasnt a hitter , so I posted those clips to show Lynch will hit .. ;D

I know he can hit. Lived in Atlanta for a few years and saw plenty of licks that he laid on people.

So, assuming you watched the video of Taylor, obviously he can bring the pain as well.

EDIT: I can give you a few more if you like including the hit on Patrick Crayton a couple of weeks ago.

[dj_stouty]

But the thread is about Taylor... if you's like to talk about one of our thugs, start a thread about him...

In other words (and read this slowly, so it's easier to understand, ok?):

Whether or not Carswell is a thug has no bearing on Taylor being a thug.

get it? You can't go through life saying "It's ok if my guy does this, cuz I know other people are doing it too."

Awwww crap... I just wasted another 3 minutes of my life trying to talk sense to someone who has none.

Awww...the classic; "This is off topic" post to divert actually responding.

[Spider]

I know he can hit. Lived in Atlanta for a few years and saw plenty of licks that he laid on people.

So, assuming you watched the video of Taylor, obviously he can bring the pain as well.
I never said he wouldnt , I said I wouldnt want either of them hitting me ;D and I mean that

[Broncoman13]

To anyone who questions the intelligence of Skins fans I offer you one of your own. thwack


That's rich Dave... now shouldn't you get back to your 4th period Geometry class and leave the library computers for the other 9th graders???

[NYBroncoManiac]

Awww...the classic; "This is off topic" post to divert actually responding.


Ummm, first off, that wasn;t a diversionary "This is off topic" post... Can you read? Cuz you certainly don't have the capacity to understand...

Let me see if I can make it any plainer for you.

Taylor is a thug. Whether or not Carswell is a thug doesn't change that fact.

Taylog is a thug.

Now do you get it?

[RedskinsDave]

I have to find me that new constitution you fellas seem to have up there on that mountain. The one I have still says you're innocent until proven guilty.

[dj_stouty]

Ummm, first off, that wasn;t a diversionary "This is off topic" post... Can you read? Cuz you certainly don't have the capacity to understand...

Let me see if I can make it any plainer for you.

Taylor is a thug. Whether or not Carswell is a thug doesn't change that fact.

Taylog is a thug.

Now do you get it?

Please keep your comments on-topic, please. This thread is about Taylor videos showing him to be a powerful hitter...not about him being a thug.

Get it?

[Broncoman13]

I know he can hit. Lived in Atlanta for a few years and saw plenty of licks that he laid on people.

So, assuming you watched the video of Taylor, obviously he can bring the pain as well.

EDIT: I can give you a few more if you like including the hit on Patrick Crayton a couple of weeks ago.


I don't think there was ever a question of whether Taylor could hit or not. I think you had a Bronco fan posting this thread to begin with. The point you are missing is we are pretty used to seeing big hits here in Denver. You probably aren't familiar with guys like Dennis Smith, Steve Atwater, Kennoy Kennedy, and now currently Al Wilson and John Lynch. Somebody show him the hit by Al on Ricky Williams... big hits are routine in Denver......

[Spider]

I have to find me that new constitution you fellas seem to have up there on that mountain. The one I have still says you're innocent until proven guilty.
Ha! .. everyone out in DC is a lawyer

[Broncoman13]

I have to find me that new constitution you fellas seem to have up there on that mountain. The one I have still says you're innocent until proven guilty.


Hey it worked for RayRay, O.J. and Michael.... Taylor has something to hang is hat on doesn't he!

[NYBroncoManiac]

Please keep your comments on-topic, please. This thread is about Taylor videos showing him to be a powerful hitter...not about him being a thug.

Get it?

Yeah... sure. Whatever helps you sleep.

Here... I've got a bed-time story for you:



On the afternoon of June 1, according to the police report, Taylor drove his Yukon Denali into West Perrine because he believed two men from the area had stolen his two all-terrain vehicles, each worth about $7,000. Another car with several of Taylor's friends trailed behind, police said.

Police said that Taylor got out of his car and pointed a gun at two individuals while demanding they return his ATVs. According to a person familiar with the investigation who requested anonymity because the case is still at a sensitive stage, an individual from the car trailing Taylor's pointed an AK-47. No shots were fired, and Taylor soon left, they said. Ten minutes later, he returned with more friends, the police report said.

After returning, Taylor got out of the car and hit one of the individuals with his fist while one of Taylor's friends chased another person with a bat, the police report said. Then Taylor and his group again left the scene and drove to a home in the area belonging to one of Taylor's friends. According to officials familiar with the case who requested anonymity, shots were fired into the home and at Taylor's Denali several minutes later. No one was hurt.

[MowrMowr]

Why is he #36 in every clip? Is it because he's done NOTHING this year as #21???

[Spider]

I don't think there was ever a question of whether Taylor could hit or not. I think you had a Bronco fan posting this thread to begin with. The point you are missing is we are pretty used to seeing big hits here in Denver. You probably aren't familiar with guys like Dennis Smith, Steve Atwater, Kennoy Kennedy, and now currently Al Wilson and John Lynch. Somebody show him the hit by Al on Ricky Williams... big hits are routine in Denver......Here it is

[Broncoman13]

Please keep your comments on-topic, please. This thread is about Taylor videos showing him to be a powerful hitter...not about him being a thug.

Get it?


Okay, back on topic. Sean Taylor can play football. We have a few big Miami fans here that know all about Taylor. A little did you know... despite having nearly double the Int's of any other Cane DB his last year in Miami he was widely regarded as having the worst hands of the bunch! I thought that was suprising considering he had like 10 int's that year! He also knows what to do with the ball once he has it in his hands. A good player for sure... but personally I'd rather have an Ed Reed that is not only good, he is civil!

[Garcia Bronco]

Edskins is a turd from the southside(South of the James)...we here in Richmond usually refer to those folks as cretins :laugh: . Sean Taylor ain't **** and has never been ****...the guy that makes it work back there for Greg Williams is Prioleau...the defender from Virgina Tech...Go Hokies.

[Broncoman13]

Here it is


That's what the flock I'm talking about! I suppose we'll hear that is an illegal hit now b/c he put his helmet in Ricky Fu's earhole!

[Garcia Bronco]

Notice the words "Charged with".. Anyone can be charged with anything.. Whether or not you are convicted is the important part...


Dude...come on...the guy has been playing the fool...that doesn't matter on the football field....but he's been playing the fool and you know it.

[bendog]

The video is about him beign a thug. Damn, if Lynch made soem of those late hits up high, he'd have to pay his entire pay to fines.

I say we put housearrest on him for awhile and let them punk it out. (-:

[Broncoman13]

Edskins is a turd from the southside(South of the James)...we here in Richmond usually refer to those folks as cretins. Sean Taylor ain't **** and has never been ****...the guy that makes it work back there for Greg Williams is Prioleau...the defender from Virgina Tech...Go Hokies.


Redskinfan...take GB with a grain of salt. Ed Reed and every other Cane suck as well... the only Cane's that get a break are DJ Williams and Chris Myers b/c they happen to be Broncos. We all know that Taylor can play. He'll be the best DB we play against so far this season... still not scared of him though.

[pjmjr]

Redskinfan...take GB with a grain of salt. Ed Reed and every other Cane suck as well... the only Cane's that get a break are DJ Williams and Chris Myers b/c they happen to be Broncos. We all know that Taylor can play. He'll be the best DB we play against so far this season... still not scared of him though.


Look, here. Miami's keeping their football players out of jail long enough to play football. Now, with that said, Sean Taylor will probably kill at least 4 broncHOs on Sunday. Better buy stock in the local mortuary, even though you will lose the game and a few players, at least you will make a few bucks.

[Spider]

Look, here. Miami's keeping their football players out of jail long enough to play football. Now, with that said, Sean Taylor will probably kill at least 4 broncHOs on Sunday. Better buy stock in the local mortuary, even though you will lose the game and a few players, at least you will make a few bucks.
I see it is "Free time " in special Ed class ..

[Garcia Bronco]

Redskinfan...take GB with a grain of salt. Ed Reed and every other Cane suck as well... the only Cane's that get a break are DJ Williams and Chris Myers b/c they happen to be Broncos. We all know that Taylor can play. He'll be the best DB we play against so far this season... still not scared of him though.


I gotta be honest with you....I don't like those guys either...They're all great football players and I accept them while they're here....but I don't like them. :)

[ecnal15]

First of all Sean Taylor is a bad ass. No doubt about it. i would love to have him raoming our secondary. Watching the video though, it is a highlight reel. Every player has their great moments and many have more than Taylor, I am sure we could make a video of Lynch or Wilson that is just as intimidating. The difference is Taylor does a lot more dancing around after he makes a good play. There are tons of hard hitting defenders in the league, many of whom our receivers have been introduced to,so i am sure that our receivers will be no more scared of sean taylor than any other hard hitting player.

Then about Lynch and Taylor....they both hit hella hard! No one can argue that (and if you do your wrong)

This week is gonna be a match up of two great defenses, it should be really exciting. I think the broncos will win just becuase of the fact that our offense has more chemistry and is a little better. Either way this game is gonna be a hard hittin, in your face match.

[Vegas_Bronco]

Mike Anderson + horse collar tackle = broken azz tackle
Taylor still is less than 'the Lynch' or 'the Champ' (maybe in a couple more years & with more experience)
I could make a better 'highlight' reel of Champ, Lynch, Wilson, Pryce, and maybe even Gold = no beans!

[Vegas_Bronco]

This is too funny, it takes Al Wilson one days work to accomplish what Sean Taylor has in 2 seasons.


Defensive Player of the Week
Denver LB Al Wilson (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4680/). This Denver linebacking corps is blowing people up. In Jacksonville, covering for injured cornerback Champ Bailey (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4655/), Wilson and his buddies pressured Byron Leftwich (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6343/) continually, holding the Jags to 241 yards. Wilson had four fumble recoveries, a sack, two forced fumbles and a pass defensed. The Broncs have allowed 34 points in the last three weeks (2 TD's allowed by Lenny).

[dj_stouty]

This is too funny, it takes Al Wilson one days work to accomplish what Sean Taylor has in 2 seasons.


Defensive Player of the Week
Denver LB Al Wilson (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4680/). This Denver linebacking corps is blowing people up. In Jacksonville, covering for injured cornerback Champ Bailey (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4655/), Wilson and his buddies pressured Byron Leftwich (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6343/) continually, holding the Jags to 241 yards. Wilson had four fumble recoveries, a sack, two forced fumbles and a pass defensed. The Broncs have allowed 34 points in the last three weeks (2 TD's allowed by Lenny).

Comparing a safety and a linebacker, now? That makes no sense...

[Spider]

Comparing a safety and a linebacker, now? That makes no sense...
Depends on the defense ..... I think the Titians use Line backers as a bulked up Safety , while teams like TB use the safty as a slimed down LB ......... this may have changed this year though

[Broncoman13]

That's rich Dave... now shouldn't you get back to your 4th period Geometry class and leave the library computers for the other 9th graders???


Guess I must have struck a nerve with this one..... got some neg rep from foreskin fan!!! Pwned!!!!!!

[Vegas_Bronco]

Comparing a safety and a linebacker, now? That makes no sense...

No it really doesn't after all Wilson was on deep route coverage all day after Jags fell behind. Hell, it even makes less sense in Wilson's case, your absolutely stupid right.

[cousinal11]

Didn't read through the whole thread so I don't know if this has been mentioned but didn't he get pulled over for DUI in the offseason. Some rumors I heard on Jim Rome was that the guy was naked leaving Rod Gardner's party when he got pulled.

[RedskinsDave]

Didn't read through the whole thread so I don't know if this has been mentioned but didn't he get pulled over for DUI in the offseason. Some rumors I heard on Jim Rome was that the guy was naked leaving Rod Gardner's party when he got pulled.

Jim Rome, lol. I guess you get your political news from Newsmax.

[REEM10]

Edskins is a turd from the southside(South of the James)...we here in Richmond usually refer to those folks as cretins :laugh: . Sean Taylor ain't **** and has never been ****...the guy that makes it work back there for Greg Williams is Prioleau...the defender from Virgina Tech...Go Hokies.

Now if that isnt a college homer comment I dont know what is!!! :laugh:

Now Prioleau has been playing pretty good, but to say he is the one in the secondary making it happen is hillarious!!!

[dj_stouty]

Now Prioleau has been playing pretty good, but to say he is the one in the secondary making it happen is hillarious!!!

Especially when Prioleau didn't even play in the Seattle game...

[cousinal11]

Jim Rome, lol. I guess you get your political news from Newsmax.

I didn't say it was true, just a rumor I heard.

[STaylor#21]

Here is more

Is that a helmet to helmet I see, I'll take that flag any day of the week.

[watermock]

Just don't let Lelie see this...he won't make it on the field.

He took alot of cheap shots, but alot of us were clamoring for him...unfortunately, we never got to him. SoCal and I were talking this kid up three years ago. He's a monster. That's about the time some clown came in and said no Safety was worth a first round pick. Well, that was before Ed Reed and Sean Taylor.

Beast is an understatement...more like a Rabid Wolf.

[Spider]

Is that a helmet to helmet I see, I'll take that flag any day of the week.
How can you watch a Football game and not understand ?
clueless

[STaylor#21]

Mike Anderson + horse collar tackle = broken azz tackle
Taylor still is less than 'the Lynch' or 'the Champ' (maybe in a couple more years & with more experience)
I could make a better 'highlight' reel of Champ, Lynch, Wilson, Pryce, and maybe even Gold = no beans!

Come on Broncos fans, do you not understand that highlight reel came from his ROOKIE YEAR, how many players do you see coming out of college and dancing around after they make a big play, especially from the U.

Now my main point being none of you have seen the Skins' play besides the Monday night game, where if you noticed after the hit on 3rd down, that caused a fumble (but was not ruled a fumble). Taylor simply walked away, nothing obnoxious, just went back to the huddle. You will be seeing a much more matured Sean Taylor come Sunday.

[Spider]

Come on Broncos fans.
after this Idiotic take , you realy cant expect us to take you serious ....
http://72.22.74.110/BB/showpost.php?p=785986&postcount=146

[STaylor#21]

after this Idiotic take , you realy cant expect us to take you serious ....
http://72.22.74.110/BB/showpost.php?p=785986&postcount=146

Apparently your taking me very seriously, even giving me my own individual thread, what kind individuals these Broncos fans are.

[Spider]

Apparently your taking me very seriously, even giving me my own individual thread, what kind individuals these Broncos fans are.
i gave you your own thread ?

[watermock]

First, making your screen name the same as a player is totally gay. Second, Taylor is a dirty player, you just admitted it. Third, who the hell cares? Your going to be in the basement soon enough.

[STaylor#21]

First, making your screen name the same as a player is totally gay. Second, Taylor is a dirty player, you just admitted it. Third, who the hell cares? Your going to be in the basement soon enough.

LOL, there is a "totally gay" rule for making screen names, huh? Second, I said Taylor celebrates after a big hit, sounds real dirty to me to? Third, we'll see come Sunday.

Good luck to ya. Should be close, I expect a hard fought defensive battle and the better team will come out on top.

[Broncoman13]

Is that a helmet to helmet I see, I'll take that flag any day of the week.


Bahahha!!! I knew a Foreskin dumbass would show up and ask! One more Deadskin dumbass that we need to teach the rule book to. Dj, Burgundy, one of you guys want to take your little step brother aside and explain the rules to him or do we need to do that for you?

BTW Dave, thanks for the rep. I'd rep you guys, but it'd be a waste of time seeing how you won't be back after Sunday!

[watermock]

Has anyone actually seen the cowpie that is called Washington D.C.? It's a pigstye that makes Omaha look like a platinum city. It's smells, is crime ridden and sucks on the teat of the rest of the nation. It's the epitome of the seperation between the rich and poor. Gangs have gun fights half a mile from the white house.

[STaylor#21]

ahhh

[Mile High Shack]

ahhh

gotta like preseason

[RedskinsDave]

Has anyone actually seen the cowpie that is called Washington D.C.? It's a pigstye that makes Omaha look like a platinum city. It's smells, is crime ridden and sucks on the teat of the rest of the nation. It's the epitome of the seperation between the rich and poor. Gangs have gun fights half a mile from the white house.

If ignorance is bliss you may be the happiest person alive. Most often losers like you who make b.s claims about a place have never even been there.

[~LNR~]

Has anyone actually seen the cowpie that is called Washington D.C.? It's a pigstye that makes Omaha look like a platinum city. It's smells, is crime ridden and sucks on the teat of the rest of the nation. It's the epitome of the seperation between the rich and poor. Gangs have gun fights half a mile from the white house.
what does that have to do with the initial topic of this thread, or the redskins who play in maryland and practice in virginia? ???

[2KBack]

Has anyone actually seen the cowpie that is called Washington D.C.? It's a pigstye that makes Omaha look like a platinum city. It's smells, is crime ridden and sucks on the teat of the rest of the nation. It's the epitome of the seperation between the rich and poor. Gangs have gun fights half a mile from the white house.

Hey! Attack the redskins, not my house

[STaylor#21]

I'd love to show an image of a regular season game but unfortunately we didn't get to play ya in the regular season. So all i can show is 2 INT's and 1 returned for a TD.

[~LNR~]

First, making your screen name the same as a player is totally gay. Second, Taylor is a dirty player, you just admitted it. Third, who the hell cares? Your going to be in the basement soon enough.
thats not nice to make fun of ChampBailey24 like that.....

[Drek]

We all know that Taylor can play. He'll be the best DB we play against so far this season... still not scared of him though.
Woah now, thems are strong, and entirely WRONG, words. Best DB we've played all year? Sorry, if you want to suck this week's opponent's dick feel free, but don't disregard the significantly better players we've faced already this year.

Namely Patrick Surtain, I know he doesn't get much love here because he's a Cheffy, but the guy is a multiple pro bowl corner who consistantly gets the job done, even when he played in the AFC East, one of the premier divisions in football.

I'd liken Taylor's game currently to that of Deon Grant, who we played just last week. Grant is a versitile safety who has seen spurts of being great, Taylor is there as well. The principle difference is that while Grant is playing at his peak Taylor is only starting to reach is (assuming he stays out of jail). Still, we're playing Taylor this week, not next year or the year after. He makes immature mistakes on the football field and is exploitable, far from a top level DB.

[Broncoman13]

I'd love to show an image of a regular season game but unfortunately we didn't get to play ya in the regular season. So all i can show is 2 INT's and 1 returned for a TD.


Hey you figure out the rules for the NFL yet. I bet that little geeky dude next to you is getting pissed. You do know it's rude to hog the library computers at school right...like I said earlier, the other 9th grader Skin fans want there shot at posting on the Mane!

[Needa Pass Rush]

I see things are going well on this thread.

Who likes the new avatar? ;D

[Broncoman13]

Woah now, thems are strong, and entirely WRONG, words. Best DB we've played all year? Sorry, if you want to suck this week's opponent's dick feel free, but don't disregard the significantly better players we've faced already this year.

Namely Patrick Surtain, I know he doesn't get much love here because he's a Cheffy, but the guy is a multiple pro bowl corner who consistantly gets the job done, even when he played in the AFC East, one of the premier divisions in football.

I'd liken Taylor's game currently to that of Deon Grant, who we played just last week. Grant is a versitile safety who has seen spurts of being great, Taylor is there as well. The principle difference is that while Grant is playing at his peak Taylor is only starting to reach is (assuming he stays out of jail). Still, we're playing Taylor this week, not next year or the year after. He makes immature mistakes on the football field and is exploitable, far from a top level DB.


You lost all cred. when you brought up Deon Grant.

[RedskinsDave]

Hey you figure out the rules for the NFL yet. I bet that little geeky dude next to you is getting pissed. You do know it's rude to hog the library computers at school right...like I said earlier, the other 9th grader Skin fans want there shot at posting on the Mane!

If you really want to make jokes about a person's knowledge of something you really should make sure you have no spelling or grammar snafus.

[STaylor#21]

Hey you figure out the rules for the NFL yet. I bet that little geeky dude next to you is getting pissed. You do know it's rude to hog the library computers at school right...like I said earlier, the other 9th grader Skin fans want there shot at posting on the Mane!

:stupid:

[Needa Pass Rush]

If you really want to make jokes about a person's knowledge of something you really should make sure you have no spelling or grammar snafus.


I'll see your spelling and raise you a syntax. :TJnPopps:

[Broncoman13]

If you really want to make jokes about a person's knowledge of something you really should make sure you have no spelling or grammar snafus.


Spelling and Grammar smack!!! Pwned!!!!!!!!!!

[STaylor#21]

Spelling and Grammar smack!!! Pwned!!!!!!!!!!

Pwned? Whose the 9th grader now...

[Needa Pass Rush]

Pwned? Whose the 9th grader now...


Perhaps it IS you. Though a ninth grader would have easily been able to read past that typo. :giggle:

[Broncoman13]

:stupid:


That's rich coming from the genius that doesn't know what an illegal hit really looks like. I didn't realize that you WERE the geeky kid waiting earlier... my mistake.

As for spelling errors issues. Check this one out. SKINSFANSUCKBRONCOSOFF! I'm pretty sure that isn't a word, but I bet you understand it!

[STaylor#21]

Perhaps it IS you. Though a ninth grader would have easily been able to read past that typo. :giggle:

I think your a little off track here, as in I post the grammer mistake. I guess that air really does do something...

[STaylor#21]

That's rich coming from the genius that doesn't know what an illegal hit really looks like. I didn't realize that you WERE the geeky kid waiting earlier... my mistake.

As for spelling errors issues. Check this one out. SKINSFANSUCKBRONCOSOFF! I'm pretty sure that isn't a word, but I bet you understand it!

Well if I don't know what an illegal hit looks like, clearly you guys don't. You watched the video and all I heard was illegal this, facemask, illegal that. What hypocrits.

[RedskinsDave]

That's rich coming from the genius that doesn't know what an illegal hit really looks like. I didn't realize that you WERE the geeky kid waiting earlier... my mistake.

As for spelling errors issues. Check this one out. SKINSFANSUCKBRONCOSOFF! I'm pretty sure that isn't a word, but I bet you understand it!

Honestly, what are you, 12?

[Needa Pass Rush]

I think your a little off track here, as in I post the grammer mistake. I guess that air really does do something...


You posted OSKIE's typo, ST. Try and keep up. I'm breathing McLean Virginia air, you? :bash: ;)

[Drek]

You lost all cred. when you brought up Deon Grant.
You actually watch football or just rant about the players who happen to like? Deon Grant is a productive safety in the NFL, most teams would be happy to have him.

[RedskinsDave]

You posted OSKIE's typo, ST. Try and keep up. I'm breathing McLean Virginia air, you? :bash: ;)

And your boy Oskie isn't so lucky.

[Broncoman13]

I think your a little off track here, as in I post the grammer mistake. I guess that air really does do something...


Resident posters understand the "pwned" talk... it's an inside thing. You wouldn't understand as the only thing you've been inside lately is the HIGH SCHOOL LIBRARY! Now quit wasting my tax dollars and get back to your 5th period Health class! Ask your teacher what an illegal helmet to helmet hit is too btw, I'm sure she can explain it to you!

As for spelling and grammar smack. Everybody knows that you turn to that type of smack when you're getting owned in an arguement. Thanks for making it easy!

This whole topic reminds me of something...

Can you raed tihs?
Olny srmat poelpe can. I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is
bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! if you can raed tihs psas it on !!

[STaylor#21]

You posted OSKIE's typo, ST. Try and keep up. I'm breathing McLean Virginia air, you? :bash: ;)

Originally Posted by RedskinsDave
If you really want to make jokes about a person's knowledge of something you really should make sure you have no spelling or grammar snafus.

O yeah.... Nnyah!

[Needa Pass Rush]

Can you raed tihs?
Olny srmat poelpe can. I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is
bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! if you can raed tihs psas it on !!


That is pretty cool. I did not know that. Uhh

[RedskinsDave]

Resident posters understand the "pwned" talk... it's an inside thing. You wouldn't understand as the only thing you've been inside lately is the HIGH SCHOOL LIBRARY! Now quit wasting my tax dollars and get back to your 5th period Health class! Ask your teacher what an illegal helmet to helmet hit is too btw, I'm sure she can explain it to you!

As for spelling and grammar smack. Everybody knows that you turn to that type of smack when you're getting owned in an arguement. Thanks for making it easy!

This whole topic reminds me of something...

Can you raed tihs?
Olny srmat poelpe can. I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is
bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! if you can raed tihs psas it on !!

Okay that was pretty cool. Still, you can't question someone's age or intelligence when you appear to be an ignorant 12 year old yourself.

[STaylor#21]

Well I don't wanna waste anymore of OSKIE's tax dollars so I'm just gonna go check out a book at the library....

Redskins 17
Broncos 14

[Broncoman13]

Well if I don't know what an illegal hit looks like, clearly you guys don't. You watched the video and all I heard was illegal this, facemask, illegal that. What hypocrits.


See if I wanted to use the spelling smack I could go to your Bold Hyprocrits spelling, but I get what you're saying. Find where I've said anything about Taylor's play that makes you believe I don't think he's a good player. I'm certainly not the one saying that Deon Grant is better! Ha!

Sorry Drek, you posted up Surtain and Grant as better than Taylor. I'm willing to bet you'd be hard pressed to find a GM in the NFL that would take either over Sean Taylor!

[Broncoman13]

Nnyah! Okay that was pretty cool. Still, you can't question someone's age or intelligence when you appear to be an ignorant 12 year old yourself.


I geuss my splleing and garmmer mkae me suound liike I'em 12. So Soddie! Nnyah!

[DC Dreaming]

As for spelling and grammar smack. Everybody knows that you turn to that type of smack when you're getting owned in an arguement. Thanks for making it easy!


Not if you dont spend all your time "smack talking". I generally don't spend my time on the internet talking trash to strangers...... I come to talk football. Obviously there is going to be some trash talking when a rival fan comes to your board. But I've never seen it at the level it is here. The site I normally post at doesn't have "rep" for trashing other fans. RD is on that board also and I've never seen "Pwned" myself. Just a though.

[Spider]

Not if you dont spend all your time "smack talking". I generally don't spend my time on the internet talking trash to strangers...... I come to talk football. Obviously there is going to be some trash talking when a rival fan comes to your board. But I've never seen it at the level it is here. The site I normally post at doesn't have "rep" for trashing other fans. RD is on that board also and I've never seen "Pwned" myself. Just a though.
;D Pwned cameabout on a sports board ( all 32 teams fans posted there ) and there was a heated debate in the smack forum , and in the heat of the argumnt one of the posters fighting made a bad point ( though he thought it was good ) It was obvious the guy had no clue , but he posted in big letters PWNED instead of OWNED , it was funny but you had to be there ........

[Rock Chalk]

pwned came about from gamers Spider.

[Spider]

pwned came about from gamers Spider.
;D I stand corrected

[watermock]

If ignorance is bliss you may be the happiest person alive. Most often losers like you who make b.s claims about a place have never even been there.

Well, you did alot to dispell my notion didn't you. My cousin visited there and said it smelled, but literally scary and unless you were in the capital district or out of town, it was a craphole.

You want to check your crime stats before you pull more crap out of your ass?

[DC Dreaming]

I see. Generally, aside from "work", I don't spend much time on the internet........ ;)

[DC Dreaming]

Well, you did alot to dispell my notion didn't you. My cousin visited there and said it smelled, but literally scary and unless you were in the capital district or out of town, it was a craphole.

You want to check your crime stats before you pull more crap out of your ass?

rofl Do you really want CRIME STATS? You friggin people wants stats on everything!!

[watermock]

STFU you idiot

DC IS AGAIN 'MURDER CAPITAL', NEW STUDY SHOWS
- District had Highest Big-City Murder Rate in 2002
- DC Murder Rate Soared as Other Cities Saw Decline

(Washington, DC) Washington, DC is once again the nation's 'Murder Capital," according to a new study released today.

The study, conducted by SafeStreetsDC.com (www.SafeStreetsDC.com), a public safety watchdog group, compared the annual number of murders per 100,000 residents in American cities with populations greater than 500,000. This was the same standard used to determine DC's previous rank as murder capital. In compiling the data, the group relied on homicide statistics from the FBI and police department homicide units from around the country.

According to the numbers, DC outranked all major cities, and is again the nation's "murder capital."

Immediately following DC on the list were Detroit (the winner in 2001), Baltimore, Memphis, Chicago and Philadelphia (in that order).

Other notable rankings included: Los Angeles (9), Dallas (10), Boston (18), San Francisco (24), and New York (25). Last on the list was Honolulu, ranked 32d with only 18 murders, in spite of its population of nearly 900,000.

DC, by comparison, with nearly 600,000 residents, had 262 murders last year.

DC's soaring homicide rate also defied national trends showing a slight drop in murders. In spite of the fact that the number of total murders in all 32 cities dropped 1.2% in 2002 as compared to 2001, DC saw a nearly 13% increase in its murder rate in 2002, giving it the 6th-highest increase among the cities surveyed.

"Nationally the murder rate hardly changed, yet in DC it soared last year," said John Aravosis, cofounder of SafeStreetsDC.com and co-author of the study along with Matt Forman. "DC officials clearly can't blame the city's increasing murder rate on the worsening economy or other national trends since most other cities facing the same pressures did not see the same increase in homicides."

The largest jump in the 2002 murder rate was in Columbus, which saw a nearly 60% increase last year, immediately followed by San Jose (+27%), Tucson (+21%), Jacksonville (+20%), and Denver (+18%).

On the other end of the spectrum, El Paso had the greatest decline in its murder rate last year (-30%). The percentage change in the murder rate of other notable cities in 2002 include: Los Angeles (+12%), Detroit (+2%), Baltimore (-1%), Chicago (-3%), Philadelphia (-7%), Boston (-8%), New York (-10%), and Dallas (-20%).

The study also cast doubt on another factor often used by DC officials to explain the city's increasing crime rate: the demands of Homeland Security.

"We were surprised to find that New York had a 10% drop in homicides last year, as DC officials often blame the District's increasing crime rate on the demands of post-September 11 security," Aravosis said. "Yet New York, which surely faces as great a threat as Washington, has managed to improve its murder rate."

The study also found that in 2001 DC was the murder capital "runner up."

This year, according to the DC Metropolitan Police Department, murder in the District is up over 21% from last year, and at the current pace, Washington could see 325 murders in 2003 as compared to last year's 262. (Source: Washington Post)

"We were the murder capital runner-up in 2001, we won the title in 2002, and 2003 is already being heralded as a record year for death in the District," said Aravosis. "All of this proves that this year's 21% jump in homicides is hardly a temporary fluke. It's been building for years."

SafeStreetsDC.com is a web-based ad hoc coalition of District of Columbia citizens and police officers working to improve public safety and hometown security. SafeStreetsDC.com founder, John Aravosis, is a nationally-known Internet activist best known for his year 2000 StopDrLaura.com web campaign. The campaign brought citizen pressure to bear in convincing corporate sponsors to withdraw from Dr. Laura Schlessinger's television talk show ultimately leading to the cancellation of the show.


--- www.safestreetsdc.com ---


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DC Regains Title of "Murder Capital"
A Study by SafeStreetsDC.com
April 24, 2003

DC is Again the Murder Capital
Washington, DC had the highest number of homicides per capita in 2002 of cities with populations of 500,000 or more, making the District again the nation's "murder capital." (This was the same standard used to determine DC's "murder capital" status in the late 1980s.) In 2001, DC was the "murder capital runner-up," following Detroit which held the title that year. In 2002, however, DC's nearly 13% increase in homicides over the previous year exceeded Detroit's more modest increase of less than 2%. As a result, Detroit and DC switched places in the rankings for 2002, with DC taking the lead.

The Importance of Calculating the "Murder Rate"
A word about the "murder rate" and per-capita calculations. While Los Angeles had the most murders in 2002 of any large city, Washington, DC gets the rank of "murder capital" because the risk of being murdered in the District is higher than in Los Angeles. This is because while Los Angeles has 6.5 times the population of the District, last year LA did not have 6.5 times the number of murders in DC - rather, LA had only 2.5 times the number of murders in DC. Thus, in terms of each citizen's risk of being murdered, DC is more dangerous than LA and thus gets a higher rank.(1)

[RedskinsDave]

Well, you did alot to dispell my notion didn't you. My cousin visited there and said it smelled, but literally scary and unless you were in the capital district or out of town, it was a craphole.

You want to check your crime stats before you pull more crap out of your ass?

Looks like I was dead on. You've never been there.

[DC Dreaming]

So your full of shiat. Next.
http://www.morganquitno.com/safecity.htm

The Morgan Quitno Safest City Award is based on a city’s rate for six basic crime categories: murder, rape, robbery, aggravated assault, burglary and motor vehicle theft. All cities of 75,000+ populations that reported crime data to the FBI for the six crime categories were included in the rankings. In this year’s survey, 354 cities were considered for the award. Final 2003 statistics, released by the FBI on October 25, 2004, were used to determine the rankings.

At the opposite end of the Morgan Quitno crime scale, Camden, New Jersey ranks as the nation’s most dangerous city. While Camden has always ranked among the 10 most dangerous cities in Morgan Quitno’s rankings, this is the first year that Camden has been named the most dangerous city. Camden is joined at the bottom of the crime rankings by (in ascending order) Detroit, MI; Atlanta, GA; St. Louis, MO and Gary, IN.

I don't see DC there......

[2KBack]

So your full of shiat. Next.

To be Fair Mock, using population statistics and the like to compare Crime rates for DC doesn't work too well. Officially Washington DC has a deceptivly low population, but that's because the actual population of the area is spread heavily into northern virginia and southern maryland. On any given day the population of DC is 2-3 times the size of what the census polls tell us.

[dj_stouty]

My cousin visited there and said it smelled, but literally scary and unless you were in the capital district or out of town, it was a craphole.

LOL. You have an opinion on a city you haven't even visited?

Lets not start comparing cities, now. Sure, DC has some bad parts, but the good parts are heads above most top 10 markets. I'm not even sure Denver qualifies as a top 10 market, so maybe the comparisions should stop there.

[Broncoman13]

pwned came about from gamers Spider.


Thanks for clearing that up brah... Honestly though, I just don't know how to spell!!! lol

[Broncoman13]

LOL. You have an opinion on a city you haven't even visited?

Lets not start comparing cities, now. Sure, DC has some bad parts, but the good parts are heads above most top 10 markets. I'm not even sure Denver qualifies as a top 10 market, so maybe the comparisions should stop there.

Like I said, Mock's been everywhere...and if he hasn't he knows somebody that has!

D.C. is like most larger cities. You have the good and then you have the bad. D.C.'s bad is just more publicized b/c of the Capital. Personally I'd much rather live in Colorado. Not Denver necessarily but Colorado in general. We used to live in Sterling so I know a little about the area. Our area was nice so what do I know about the bad parts?

[Garcia Bronco]

Especially when Prioleau didn't even play in the Seattle game...


He did it with the powers of his mind. Again...he's a Hokie.

[Garcia Bronco]

Can anybody fix a speeding ticket in Arlington?

[Garcia Bronco]

Richmond is also in the top 25 in murder rate as well.

[Garcia Bronco]

http://www.morganquitno.com/safecity.htm

The Morgan Quitno Safest City Award is based on a city’s rate for six basic crime categories: murder, rape, robbery, aggravated assault, burglary and motor vehicle theft. All cities of 75,000+ populations that reported crime data to the FBI for the six crime categories were included in the rankings. In this year’s survey, 354 cities were considered for the award. Final 2003 statistics, released by the FBI on October 25, 2004, were used to determine the rankings.

At the opposite end of the Morgan Quitno crime scale, Camden, New Jersey ranks as the nation’s most dangerous city. While Camden has always ranked among the 10 most dangerous cities in Morgan Quitno’s rankings, this is the first year that Camden has been named the most dangerous city. Camden is joined at the bottom of the crime rankings by (in ascending order) Detroit, MI; Atlanta, GA; St. Louis, MO and Gary, IN.

I don't see DC there......

Camden looks like Little Haiti from Vice City

[BurgundyNGold]

Not to take his thread in a totally different direction, but here's that hit Taylor put on Crayton on the MNF Dallass game:

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/4290/taylorhitcrayton4vf9dz5fr5au.gif

It's actually more brutal in real video. Taylor is a thug alright, but he's a bad@ss player too. Those are not mutually exclusive attributes.

[superbowlXL]

He shoot anybody lately?

Wow, that is such a great comeback. You must write for a sitcom or maybe a late night talk show??? Wow, good stuff.

Sean Taylor is already IMO the heart and soul of the Skins defense. Coaches all love him and rave about him. Maybe he didn't have a high wonderlic score, but who cares? There is smart and then there is football smart. Barring an injury, he'll have a nice career.

As to how to attack Taylor, I'd send Lelie deep often and work underneath. to me, the Skins biggest weakness on defense is the short to mid range pass.

[superbowlXL]

Everyone please stop sucking Sean Taylor's balls.

Ok, 5 posts into trying to find intelligent football conversation and I'm already banning 4th graders. You certainly won't find that at hailredskins.com... In fact, I think I'll head back there b/c the Broncos fans there were intelligent and interesting. This is a waste of time...

[Needa Pass Rush]

.......seen "Pwned" myself. Just a though.



Just a though? That darned spelling smack always comes full circle. :hitself:

[DivineLegion]

I liked the Horse collar on McNabb...

[Needa Pass Rush]

Like I said, Mock's been everywhere...and if he hasn't he knows somebody that has!

D.C. is like most larger cities. You have the good and then you have the bad. D.C.'s bad is just more publicized b/c of the Capital. Personally I'd much rather live in Colorado. Not Denver necessarily but Colorado in general. We used to live in Sterling so I know a little about the area. Our area was nice so what do I know about the bad parts?

I didn't know you lived in Sterling! ??? :kiddingme ???

[Ratboy]

Not to take his thread in a totally different direction, but here's that hit Taylor put on Crayton on the MNF Dallass game:

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/4290/taylorhitcrayton4vf9dz5fr5au.gif

It's actually more brutal in real video. Taylor is a thug alright, but he's a bad@ss player too. Those are not mutually exclusive attributes.

This has turned into a "My penis is bigger than yours" thread

[Rock Chalk]

Ok, 5 posts into trying to find intelligent football conversation and I'm already banning 4th graders. You certainly won't find that at hailredskins.com... In fact, I think I'll head back there b/c the Broncos fans there were intelligent and interesting. This is a waste of time...
Then go back there dip****.

[2KBack]

Not to take his thread in a totally different direction, but here's that hit Taylor put on Crayton on the MNF Dallass game:

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/4290/taylorhitcrayton4vf9dz5fr5au.gif

It's actually more brutal in real video. Taylor is a thug alright, but he's a bad@ss player too. Those are not mutually exclusive attributes.

Actually, I think this is the direction that the thread was supposed to go. That is a pretty good jack. I don't think there is any doubt that the guy can hit, he's a LB playing safety. I don't think it's in doubt that he is a thug either, Washington fans probably won't care as long as he produces on the field. A a Denver fan I don't have to like him, but it would be pretty dumb to discount him.

[BMF Bronco]

Then go back there dip****.
don't you just love it how the trolls come, talk ****, get smacked down then get pissed and accuse us of being childish. Makes no fuggin sense whatsoever! ??? ???

[2KBack]

don't you just love it how the trolls come, talk ****, get smacked down then get pissed and accuse us of being childish. Makes no fuggin sense whatsoever! ??? ???

I don't think they understand that for every rival poster that wants to "talk football" there are 3 guys who register just to make Threads titled "Broncos suck", and "Remember 87?"

[Hotrod]

don't you just love it how the trolls come, talk ****, get smacked down then get pissed and accuse us of being childish. Makes no fuggin sense whatsoever! ??? ???

What really gets me is out of all the teams that send trolls over here I never thought I would see a more spineless fan base then the fishsticks but yet this species seem to be rather sissyfied at times.

[TDmvp]

Thug is to small of word for this guy ... Anyone ever heard him do a interview ... This guys a complete PoS and a total punk. I wouldnt want this prick anywhere near my clubhouse no matter how BIG of hitter he is ... hes a cancer... Hes on the perfect team for that tho ... Redskins to me have always been the NFC version of the raiders.. Throw cash at players who are punks / castoffs/ or showboaters sence getting the new owner this teams a total joke ... nothing like their great past.. as we speak they are the worst team in their division and prob wont make the playoffs...

[BMF Bronco]

Thug is to small of word for this guy ... Anyone ever heard him do a interview ... This guys a complete PoS and a total punk. I wouldnt want this prick anywhere near my clubhouse no matter how BIG of hitter he is ... hes a cancer... Hes on the perfect team for that tho ... Redskins to me have always been the NFC version of the raiders.. Throw cash at players who are punks / castoffs/ or showboaters sence getting the new owner this teams a total joke ... nothing like their great past.. as we speak they are the worst team in their division and prob wont make the playoffs...
Damn I love your avatar!

[BurgundyNGold]

I liked the Horse collar on McNabb...
Apparently you're allowed to horse collar a QB. Who knew? ???

[2KBack]

Apparently you're allowed to horse collar a QB. Who knew? ???

Actually I wouldn't mind an explanation of this new rule. When can you horsecollar and when can't you? Plus, what constitutes a horsecollar?

[BMF Bronco]

Apparently you're allowed to horse collar a QB. Who knew? ???
It just goes back to the hypocrisy of the league..

"We have to protect our QB's" well unless they're big as running backs and then they're fair game apparently.

Kind of like fining Lynch for his hits all the while putting those same hits on the fuggin highlite reels.

[BurgundyNGold]

Thug is to small of word for this guy ... Anyone ever heard him do a interview ... This guys a complete PoS and a total punk. I wouldnt want this prick anywhere near my clubhouse no matter how BIG of hitter he is ... hes a cancer... Hes on the perfect team for that tho ...
Sean Taylor's actions are what make him a thug, not how he talks. Also, the guys is anything but a cancer. He comes hard and never takes a play off. He plays within the scheme and doesn't freelance.

Redskins to me have always been the NFC version of the raiders.. Throw cash at players who are punks / castoffs/ or showboaters sence getting the new owner this teams a total joke ... nothing like their great past.. as we speak they are the worst team in their division and prob wont make the playoffs...
If you define the 5 year time peroid from when Snyder bought the team in 1999 until Gibbs came back in 2004 as "always", then I'll have to agree with you.

However, if you define "always" like everyone else does, you'd see that you're just wrong. Going back the the early 70s with the "Over the Hill Gang", the Redskins have traditionally been a much more cerebral, often less physically gifted team than their opponents. We can go down the timeline, but, basically, the practice of bringing in the physical specimens and throwing caution to the wind on character started the day Snyder went on his all-pro crica 1995 spending spree in 2000.

[BurgundyNGold]

It just goes back to the hypocrisy of the league..

"We have to protect our QB's" well unless they're big as running backs and then they're fair game apparently.

Kind of like fining Lynch for his hits all the while putting those same hits on the fuggin highlite reels.
I couldn't have said this better myself.

[BurgundyNGold]

Actually I wouldn't mind an explanation of this new rule. When can you horsecollar and when can't you? Plus, what constitutes a horsecollar?
Check out this link. There is a pretty good video that explains this better than I ever could:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2005-05-23-horse-collar-tackle-focus_x.htm

[2KBack]

Check out this link. There is a pretty good video that explains this better than I ever could:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2005-05-23-horse-collar-tackle-focus_x.htm

Ah, I get it, it's only on the last gasp open field collars. That's no too bad, since the rule doesn't apply to QB's and RB's near the line of scrimmage. It certainly isn't as hazy as the H2H rules.

[Kaylore]

The horsecoller is when you grab the players' shoulder pads but your hand comes inside or underneath the pads to give you leverage. You can grab someone from behind and even grab high around their neck area provided your fingers don't wrap around the edge of the shoulder pads.

[Edskins_RVA]

For the Record:

(Since I was gone most of the afternoon and missed a lot of crap)

1. DC is about 20 square miles. Most people in the DC area live in Northern VA and Southern MD.

2. This is to Bronco Garcia - I live in Midlothian. Yes, it is south of the river, but Midlothian is an oasis of fine living in the middle of a rural, red-necky county. Very much like Short Pump these days. Also, I grew up in the West End (north of the river) and graduated from J.R. Tucker High School. I only moved to the "southside" for work and because I could get a lot more house for my money (at that time - no longer).

3. This thread was about what a beast Sean Taylor is (and then Lynch got thrown in as well).. The immature bashing is kind of silly. Especially since I also have seen very intelligent and insightful Bronco fans posting over at hailredskins.com. This is your board, so do what you want. But you might want to see and example of a fan board that fan be fun & interesting without feeling like you are back in grade school..

4. By some of the logic I am reading, you are automatically guilty just because a DA has charged you with a crime. That's a new one.. Sean has been charged with crimes, but has also refused a plea deal and has vowed to fight the case all the way because he claims to be innocent. Why don't we wait till the case actually happens before we decide he's guilty.. Also, do any of you know that Sean's dad is the Chief of Police in a neighboring county (of his alleged crime). Anyone think local politics might be involved?! Just a thought...

5. Sean was charged with DUI LAST YEAR. He went to court and was exonerated.. NEXT!?

Finally, I respect Taylor and Lynch and excellent safeties.. I look forwar to their matchup this weekend..

Hail!

[Broncoman13]

I didn't know you lived in Sterling! ??? :kiddingme ???


As a kid, didn't live there too long. We ended up moving to Charlotte shortly thereafter. I have a bro in law that live there now though. He's an ATC working a hub in D.C. My sister in law flew AF1 for many years. She flew with Bush (sr.) and Clinton. Good stories. Everybody in my family has several pictures with both Bush and Clinton. Except for me. The time we were supposed to meet and get our AF1 tour Clinton canceled out of Houston. Oh well.

[2KBack]

3. This thread was about what a beast Sean Taylor is (and then Lynch got thrown in as well).. The immature bashing is kind of silly. Especially since I also have seen very intelligent and insightful Bronco fans posting over at hailredskins.com. This is your board, so do what you want. But you might want to see and example of a fan board that fan be fun & interesting without feeling like you are back in grade school..

Yes, I agree. You need to understand though, since you are a new poster during the week of our two teams game, you are lumped in with the "troll" crowd until you build at least a little bit of a reputation. This is a highly intelligent forum, but a lot of posters go into attack mode when we are bombarded with rival posters, good and bad alike. Like I said before, for every rival poster who wants to talk football, there are 3 others who just want to throw insults around. Once you've seperated yourself from the trolls the fans here are pretty easy to get along with.

[Edskins_RVA]

Yes, I agree. You need to understand though, since you are a new poster during the week of our two teams game, you are lumped in with the "troll" crowd until you build at least a little bit of a reputation. This is a highly intelligent forum, but a lot of posters go into attack mode when we are bombarded with rival posters, good and bad alike. Like I said before, for every rival poster who wants to talk football, there are 3 others who just want to throw insults around. Once you've seperated yourself from the trolls the fans here are pretty easy to get along with.

Good explanation! I get it now.. I still think it's not necessary, but understandable.. Of course we are trolling a bit, but it's only because we are all passionate about our team. Believe or not, most Skins fans are pretty knowledgable and like to discuss football with each other and other fans. Just seems appropriate to be here this week.. :)

[TDmvp]

Over / Under ... how many times will Taylor be in trouble with the law ... 5 1/2 ....

[BurgundyNGold]

Good explanation! I get it now.. I still think it's not necessary, but understandable.. Of course we are trolling a bit, but it's only because we are all passionate about our team. Believe or not, most Skins fans are pretty knowledgable and like to discuss football with each other and other fans. Just seems appropriate to be here this week.. :)
OK, let's not go overboard here. :) As 2KBack said, most fan bases have a 3-1 dolt to knowledgeable poster ratio. You and I are just spoiled because we usually post over at hailRedskins.com (http://hailredskins.com/vbforum/index.php), where knowledgeable Redskin fans are far more prevalent. Unlike extremeskins.com. They take just about anybody over there. ;)

[BurgundyNGold]

Over / Under ... how many times will Taylor be in trouble with the law ... 5 1/2 ....
What's the time frame? ;)

[Edskins_RVA]

OK, let's not go overboard here. :) As 2KBack said, most fan bases have a 3-1 dolt to knowledgeable poster ratio. You and I are just spoiled because we usually post over at hailRedskins.com (http://hailredskins.com/vbforum/index.php), where knowledgeable Redskin fans are far more prevalent. Unlike extremeskins.com. They take just about anybody over there. ;)
All good points!! See Bronco fans!! :flower:

[2KBack]

Good explanation! I get it now.. I still think it's not necessary, but understandable.. Of course we are trolling a bit, but it's only because we are all passionate about our team. Believe or not, most Skins fans are pretty knowledgable and like to discuss football with each other and other fans. Just seems appropriate to be here this week.. :)

A lot of my friends are skins fans, since I'm from Fairfax, so I am well versed in the passion the fans have. It's admirable, and a couple of you guys have risen to the top today as guys with solid takes. I think it took a bit longer because we've had more redskin fans show up this week than any other team this year. You'll still get your fairshare of venom while you're here, but hey, we're passionate too.

that said, I hope the Redskins Lose, nothing personal :laugh:

[2KBack]

Unlike extremeskins.com. They take just about anybody over there. ;)

Yeah, I'm sorry, that place is a riot. I still haven't checked out Hailredskins

[Broncoman13]

For the Record:

(Since I was gone most of the afternoon and missed a lot of crap)

1. DC is about 20 square miles. Most people in the DC area live in Northern VA and Southern MD.

2. This is to Bronco Garcia - I live in Midlothian. Yes, it is south of the river, but Midlothian is an oasis of fine living in the middle of a rural, red-necky county. Very much like Short Pump these days. Also, I grew up in the West End (north of the river) and graduated from J.R. Tucker High School. I only moved to the "southside" for work and because I could get a lot more house for my money (at that time - no longer).

3. This thread was about what a beast Sean Taylor is (and then Lynch got thrown in as well).. The immature bashing is kind of silly. Especially since I also have seen very intelligent and insightful Bronco fans posting over at hailredskins.com. This is your board, so do what you want. But you might want to see and example of a fan board that fan be fun & interesting without feeling like you are back in grade school..

4. By some of the logic I am reading, you are automatically guilty just because a DA has charged you with a crime. That's a new one.. Sean has been charged with crimes, but has also refused a plea deal and has vowed to fight the case all the way because he claims to be innocent. Why don't we wait till the case actually happens before we decide he's guilty.. Also, do any of you know that Sean's dad is the Chief of Police in a neighboring county (of his alleged crime). Anyone think local politics might be involved?! Just a thought...

5. Sean was charged with DUI LAST YEAR. He went to court and was exonerated.. NEXT!?

Finally, I respect Taylor and Lynch and excellent safeties.. I look forwar to their matchup this weekend..

Hail!

First off we don't need some yippie telling us how to act. Most of us here are very civil until YOU trolls start showing up and talking your trash.

It's funny that you feel it necessary to talk about your home on a message board. Honestly, who cares? Before you posted I would have taken GB's comments with a grain of salt. Now that you found it necessary to try and defend your stamp of land it seems logical that it is a hell hole...why else would it bother you?

The point on Sean Taylor was made. One of your geniuses from extreme skin or hail-a-skin or whatever it is (same thing!) posted that anybody can be "charged" with a crime at any time. Your buddy can watch 10 minutes of Law and Order and figure out that he's full of shiat! It's common sense that a DA would first determine whether this case was worth pursuing prior to "charging" Taylor with a criminal act. Doesn't take a genius to figure that out and I don't know what kind of person you are but I know that I myself am not about to be charged for pointing a gun at somebody!

As for Sean being exonerated on a DUI charge... WOW! I can't believe a DA would let a case like that go. I mean, it just doesn't make sense now does it? Don't know what your point is? O.J. was exonerated as well as Michael Jackson. I suppose they're both innocent b/c the F'd up system says so. Whatever!

Not sure whether Sean Taylor's father is a Chief or not. Seems to me that you're probably talking about Antrel Rolle, but I supposed both of them could have fathers that are CoP's in neighboring counties.

Finally, I agree that both Lynch and Taylor are good safties. Although I think Taylor is twice the athlete that Lynch ever was...Lynch is 10 times the man, and 10 times the citizen. That counts here in Denver and that is why Lynch is so well liked. You don't see us talking big about Dwayne Carswell do you. We talk about the class acts.

[Broncoman13]

OK, let's not go overboard here. :) As 2KBack said, most fan bases have a 3-1 dolt to knowledgeable poster ratio. You and I are just spoiled because we usually post over at hailRedskins.com (http://hailredskins.com/vbforum/index.php), where knowledgeable Redskin fans are far more prevalent. Unlike extremeskins.com. They take just about anybody over there. ;)

There's nothing saying that a troll can't or isn't an intelligent poster. I've trolled at a couple different boards before...mainly to get a reaction. Seems like a lot of you guys were doing the same, so I/we reacted.

[TDmvp]

time frame is however long hes in the NFL...

I just mean little things to like Moss with that Female traffic cop type things ...
I dout hes a moron And haven Gibbs around might be a help to tame him ..
" sorta like Marvin seems to be a calming force to Chad Johnson"
i live in cincy and seem like Chad is always a heartbeat away from doing something stupid and Marvin is the Fatherish type Figure that keeps him on track .. Chads a special WR But Marvin is the Man ... "anyone see that thing about Chad and marvin on t.v this week semi touching heheh ....

But i just think if someone dont keep his foot in Taylors A$$ he could find his way to some of the darker side of the NFL, hope im wrong cuz i hate drama ... kids a hella player tho ...

[Broncoman13]

Yeah, I'm sorry, that place is a riot. I still haven't checked out Hailredskins


I checked out Extremeskin once... It turned me off to all Redskins boards! They were talking about our inability to run the ball and slow LB's. AMAZING!

[Broncoman13]

time frame is however long hes in the NFL...

I just mean little things to like Moss with that Female traffic cop type things ...
I dout hes a moron And haven Gibbs around might be a help to tame him ..
" sorta like Marvin seems to be a calming force to Chad Johnson"
i live in cincy and seem like Chad is always a heartbeat away from doing something stupid and Marvin is the Fatherish type Figure that keeps him on track .. Chads a special WR But Marvin is the Man ... "anyone see that thing about Chad and marvin on t.v this week semi touching heheh ....

But i just think if someone dont keep his foot in Taylors A$$ he could find his way to some of the darker side of the NFL, hope im wrong cuz i hate drama ... kids a hella player tho ...


The best thing that could have happened to Taylor would be going to a coach like Shannahan or Parcells. Somebody that doesn't put up with the crap!

Anybody notice that DJ Williams was one of the few former Canes that understood the importance of working out with his current teammates instead of back in Miami? That's coaching. That's what a winning organziation is capable of doing. I find it amusing when Skins fans say the coaches are happy and pleased with Taylor. Seems to me that for several months prior to the season he wouldn't so much as return a phone call to his HC or GM! Right now he's good to go, loose a couple games and the ugly Taylor will come crawling out.

[2KBack]

I checked out Extremeskin once... It turned me off to all Redskins boards! They were talking about our inability to run the ball and slow LB's. AMAZING!

I saw that, even the biggest bronco haters respect the LBs and the run game. I just checked out hailredskins.com, it is actually much much better. There's some good conversations about the game going on.

[Broncoman13]

Kewl, invite em over.....I'm not leaving the Mane! Last time I went to another board and trolled I brought the BADDDD Karma. Now I run around acting like the karma police and posting threads to offset all the bad karma you boys bring on us! Ha!

[2KBack]

Kewl, invite em over.....I'm not leaving the Mane! Last time I went to another board and trolled I brought the BADDDD Karma. Now I run around acting like the karma police and posting threads to offset all the bad karma you boys bring on us! Ha!

Thankless job, keep up the good work :thumbsup:

[Edskins_RVA]

I saw that, even the biggest bronco haters respect the LBs and the run game. I just checked out hailredskins.com, it is actually much much better. There's some good conversations about the game going on.
Thanks for taking the time to check it out! I like to think that hailredskins.com is much more representative of not only true Redskin fans, but fans of football and many other things. You'll get much more informed and entertaining posters on that site.. (sorry if that sounds like a commercial!)

:)

[watermock]

Bang is always welcome.

The rest can scratch their cracks elsewhere.

[RunByDesign]

LOL, Lynch is so washed up, nobody fears him anymore. Taylor is a freak, anyone coming across the middle is going to get destroyed. I feel bad for your guys if they come across the middle. Taylor and Ryan Clark, who might i add cracked Bobby Ingram's ribs on Sunday, are going to lay some big hits come Sunday.

Lynch is one of the hardest hitting safeties of ALL TIME. Those kind of players lose their skills first and their big-hit ability last.

Taylor is a second year pro, while very skilled, still has much to prove. And isn't the hardest hitter I have ever seen, especially when considering his size.

Anytime I have EVER seen Lynch get the worse end of the stick as far as a collision goes, he STILL makes the tackle.

Can't say the same for Taylor (read: Greg Jones.)

[RunByDesign]

Agreed! (People are losing context here left & right) Taylor & Lynch are 2 of the hardest hitting safeties in the game..

Right.

The only difference is: Lynch is one of the hardest hitting of all time.

Taylor is just hard hitting.

[Tombstone RJ]

If Taylor had a brain to go along with is athletic skills and hitting ability, he'd be the best defensive player in the game. Unfortunately, he's got a 10 cent brain.

He is a difference maker on defense, and that goes a long way in setting the tone of a defense, and producing those all important turnovers. With time, he could turn out to be a better defensive player than Dexter Manly, but who knows if he'll ever be smarter than Manly.