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MrPeepers

10-02-2005, 09:03 PM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/don_banks/10/02/snap.judgments.week4/1.html

Don Banks - Snap Judgments

• I still don't know how to factor Denver's opening-day mail-in job at Miami into the equation, but week by week it's becoming apparent the Broncos are better than we expected. Oh, and that Denver defense, populated as it is with ex-Browns? It has shut down LaDainian Tomlinson, Priest Holmes and Fred Taylor in consecutive weeks.

• You can't stop Denver tight end Dwayne Carswell. You can only scheme to contain him.

* I'm going out on a limb and labeling the Washington Redskins the worst 3-0 team in NFL history. And that's coming off their best game of the season by far.

SoCalBronco

10-02-2005, 09:05 PM

We'll see what Peter Fatass King says tomorrow. Maybe he ignores us again like we dont exist. Most likely he will just make excuses for the Patriots losing.

Jason in LA

10-02-2005, 09:08 PM

These so called experts didn't understand that the Browncos are better than what the Broncos rolled out there at D line last year.

No more Clarett and Rice talk? I haven't heard those names in a while. The way these so called experts made it sound, you'd think the Broncos season depended on those two guys.

Rocket 7

10-02-2005, 09:09 PM

• I still don't know how to factor Denver's opening-day mail-in job at Miami into the equation, but week by week it's becoming apparent the Broncos are better than we expected.
Better than all the "experts" predicted

Jason in LA

10-02-2005, 09:10 PM

We'll see what Peter Fatass King says tomorrow. Maybe he ignores us again like we dont exist. Most likely he will just make excuses for the Patriots losing.

People pretty much ignored the Broncos Monday Night win. It was more of the Chiefs losing, and it was just one of those bad games for them.

That doesn't seem to be the case anymore. We're looking pretty good, and they are going in the tank.

Odysseus

10-02-2005, 09:13 PM

ØrangeÇrush

10-02-2005, 09:16 PM

I don't know tiger, I'd say that the Chargers are a legititmate playoff contender.

watermock

10-02-2005, 09:17 PM

I just hope we keep piling their own bile up their nostrils.

epicSocialism4tw

10-02-2005, 09:19 PM

I don't know tiger, I'd say that the Chargers are a legititmate playoff contender.

Id put Jacksonville in there as well. KC should still challenge for the division.

watermock

10-02-2005, 09:20 PM

Chargers scare me more than any other team in the AFC west

Shanahan better be screaming at them not let down yet again at home and waste a road win...

2KBack

10-02-2005, 09:20 PM

People pretty much ignored the Broncos Monday Night win. It was more of the Chiefs losing, and it was just one of those bad games for them.

That doesn't seem to be the case anymore. We're looking pretty good, and they are going in the tank.

I was thinking about this today during the game, and later whe I was reading the reactions on the Jag fan site. It's true that the last couple games have been the most complete from Denver in a while, but there were also an extrmem amount of penalties. At what point are we safe to say that our defense is forcing opposing teams into making mistakes like that.

Kaylore

10-02-2005, 09:21 PM

People pretty much ignored the Broncos Monday Night win. It was more of the Chiefs losing, and it was just one of those bad games for them.

That doesn't seem to be the case anymore. We're looking pretty good, and they are going in the tank.
Totally agree. They wrote off our second two games as flukes and no one has said anything. You can seriously see them squirming because they don't want to hurt their egos and admit our offseason was solid for fear of their penises shrinking.

watermock

10-02-2005, 09:22 PM

I don't care...my eyes are on Washington and a dangerous Portis...

I don't think Clinton will take Shanny by surprise tho.

Time to take the plane and hit the whirpool. Good Job Defense.

DBroncos4life

10-02-2005, 09:23 PM

I like being over looked but sooner or later I know that it will stop.

Hogan11

10-02-2005, 09:23 PM

Totally agree. They wrote off our second two games as flukes and no one has said anything. You can seriously see them squirming because they don't want to hurt their egos and admit our offseason was solid for fear of their penises shrinking.

The ones I saw are totally dumbfounded by Denver's success....

It's great watching them hem & haw about it.....bunch of slugs.

SoCalBronco

10-02-2005, 09:24 PM

Speaking of POS worthless media, maybe Pastabelly will acknowledge that he is a fatass jerkoff idiot and give us respect for once this week.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/len.jpg

epicSocialism4tw

10-02-2005, 09:25 PM

I like being over looked but sooner or later I know that it will stop.

I think that it has stopped. Be prepared.

The media is going to begin to swoon over this D. If you see us play, you have to be impressed. Our D is legit. It's possibly the scariest D in the NFL.

Kaylore

10-02-2005, 09:27 PM

I was thinking about this today during the game, and later whe I was reading the reactions on the Jag fan site. It's true that the last couple games have been the most complete from Denver in a while, but there were also an extrmem amount of penalties. At what point are we safe to say that our defense is forcing opposing teams into making mistakes like that.
Penalties are a result of three things.

1. Dicipline (or Coaching)

2. Intelligence (Front office and coaching)

3. Fatigue/Getting owned.

When a player can't beat another player he'll usually grab or just do something out of desperation. When a player is tired, they aren't as focused and make more mental errors which can also cause penalties.

Basically we've been beating the guys we need to straight up. This wears them down physically but also hurts their morale.

They were jumpy on the line b/c they knews the only way they had a prayer of beating our D-line was to get under them early and hope good leverage would help them. Also I'd be willing to bet that Warren running his mouth at the line has something to do with those guys losing focus and forgetting the snap count as well.

DBroncos4life

10-02-2005, 09:30 PM

epicSocialism4tw

10-02-2005, 09:32 PM

I know its starting already. :unamused:

It started after the Chefs game when Champ was turned into a media story after we knocked their offense into reality. This year Champ will probably get alot of press.

DBroncos4life

10-02-2005, 09:34 PM

It started after the Chefs game when Champ was turned into a media story after we knocked their offense into reality. This year Champ will probably get alot of press.

I can't believe how well the D did without Champ or D Will today. Thats got to open more eyes right there then had we beat them with both those guys in there....also we need to start getting more hype for our rookie DBs. So far so good for two of the three.

Bronco Billy

10-02-2005, 09:39 PM

I think that it has stopped. Be prepared.

The media is going to begin to swoon over this D. If you see us play, you have to be impressed. Our D is legit. It's possibly the scariest D in the NFL.

I agree that the D is playing great. The Broncs just shut the the Jags down. Screw the media. Only one ESPN "analyst" (of eight) predicted the Broncos would win today. It's going to be tough to beat us if the D keeps playing this way. The offense also played very well against a solid Jax D who held Indy to 10 points in Indy. Go Broncos!!!

watermock

10-02-2005, 09:41 PM

The fact of the matter is that despite losing Champ, DWill, Middlebrooks and Deltha, our defense rock and rolled! They had one big play where we all ran into each other. We are great at that.

I can name half a dozen times players have run full speed into each other only to miss the tackle...it's a Denver specialty...

Atwater knocked out most of the secondary on one play in the SuperBowl...I was Freaking out...Mobley saved the day...

Anyway, great job by the defense...hey, they missed the tackle across the middle, but the rest of the day we ruled them...they scored 7.

DW and Champ rested...it's all good. Fox and Walls stood up but out DL was OUTSTANDING.

If you watched, the DL pushed the OL around like tinker toys the whole game.

Bronco Billy

10-02-2005, 09:44 PM

Right now, which line is playing better for Denver, offense or defense? I can't decide. We're #4 in rushing yard per game on offense.

Meck77

10-02-2005, 09:50 PM

Chargers scare me more than any other team in the AFC west

Shanahan better be screaming at them not let down yet again at home and waste a road win...

Yeah I'm not sure why everyone was kissing the Chiefs ass and giving Raiders props when the chargers were the AFC West champs. Granted they usually pack it in after a 1 successful season but I've gone on record picking the Chargers as the biggest threat and I'm sticking with it.

Hogan11

10-02-2005, 09:54 PM

Yeah I'm not sure why everyone was kissing the Chiefs ass and giving Raiders props when the chargers were the AFC West champs. Granted they usually pack it in after a 1 successful season but I've gone on record picking the Chargers as the biggest threat and I'm sticking with it.

I'm not worried about any of them.

I'm more worried about Philly and a wounded NE than I am about anyone else in the West.

epicSocialism4tw

10-02-2005, 09:55 PM

Yeah I'm not sure why everyone was kissing the Chiefs ass and giving Raiders props when the chargers were the AFC West champs. Granted they usually pack it in after a 1 successful season but I've gone on record picking the Chargers as the biggest threat and I'm sticking with it.

You cant discount the Chargers. They have a solid D, possibly the greatest RB of his generation, an excellent tight end, a solid WR, a manageable QB, and a veteran coach.

The Chargers should be there challenging for the division in December.

MrPeepers

10-02-2005, 09:59 PM

More Comments this time ESPN.COM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2179040
Denver (3-1) has looked really good the past two games. In Week 1 the Broncos faded in the second half in Miami. Since then they've pulled out a tough win against San Diego and beaten supposed playoff contenders K.C. and Jacksonville. Right now you'd have to say Denver is one of the best teams in the AFC.</ p>
• Jacksonville still hasn't fixed its offense. Seven points against the Champ Bailey (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4655)-less Broncos. Same for the Texans, who after a bye week and even with a new offensive coordinator managed a mere 10 against the Bengals.

Denver 20, Jacksonville 7 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=251002030)
Another mistake-free game from Plummer, another Broncos victory. Can this be real? </ p>

Hogan11

10-02-2005, 10:00 PM

You cant discount the Chargers. They have a solid D, possibly the greatest RB of his generation, an excellent tight end, a solid WR, a manageable QB, and a veteran coach.

The Chargers should be there challenging for the division in December.

We handled them once and we'll handle them again....you wanna know why?

Because we're winners and you don't lose faith in winners Ha!

WOOOOO! Ha!

epicSocialism4tw

10-02-2005, 10:17 PM

We handled them once and we'll handle them again....you wanna know why?

Because we're winners and you don't lose faith in winners Ha!

WOOOOO! Ha!

I agree. I was responding to the series of posts where people were discussing the idea that Denver hasnt played anyone of weight. We have had as tough of a schedule as anyone in the league.

dnvrbrncos

10-02-2005, 10:37 PM

I was channel surfing after the game and came across the sports run-down on CNN. When they showed the Broncos-Jags game the only thing the announcer had to say was "Bryon Leftwich still has his moves" and they proceed to show the one score for the Jags. He then closes with "but the Broncos went on to win". Went on to win? When were we behind? Not a single clip showing the Broncos domination.

MrPeepers

10-02-2005, 10:45 PM

the jimmy smith catch that shanahan challenged early on in the first quarter was one of Bermens top 10 plays of the week, although it was an overturned pass caught out of bounds.

sorry was reggie williams not smith.

Atlas

10-02-2005, 10:46 PM

24champ

10-02-2005, 11:04 PM

where is that prediction thread, where all the "experts" said we suck or the ones that said "shanny has lost it and the team is on its way down but hey raiders got moss and they are contenders". Far as im concerned the "experts" can eat it.

Bronco LB 59

10-02-2005, 11:07 PM

I don't want the media to talk about Denver. The only way to earn respect in this league is by racking up Ws.

SoCalBronco

10-02-2005, 11:10 PM

I don't want the media to talk about Denver. The only way to earn respect in this league is by racking up Ws.

If you call into ESPN Radio again, and they have Salisbury on there again, please do the whole board a huge favor and say something very filthy about his wife to him on the air.

Thanks 52.

Dr. Broncenstein

10-02-2005, 11:11 PM

We'll see what Peter Fatass King says tomorrow. Maybe he ignores us again like we dont exist. Most likely he will just make excuses for the Patriots losing.

Well, the colts won.... so the east coast media will blow Manning all week long.

Kaylore

10-03-2005, 01:27 AM

Well, the colts won.... so the east coast media will blow Manning all week long.
There ya go. I think we can lay low for a few more games and here's why.

Lets assume...

1. We beat the Redskins. Explanation: The Redskins are worse than their reccord of course.

2. We beat the Patriots: The Pats have key injuries.

3. We win in New York. Well if we are going to get repect it will be here. Though they could probably pass it off as "rookie jitters".

3. We beat Philly: Wel McNabb is hurting, so what do you expect.

I bet we'll see excuse after excuse for why we win each game - especially if the Manning Brothers keep winning.

bloodsunday

10-03-2005, 06:26 AM

We'll see what Peter Fatass King says tomorrow. Maybe he ignores us again like we dont exist. Most likely he will just make excuses for the Patriots losing.
I have been very, very surprised at how little attention Denver is getting for this win. Everyone is talking about San Diego, Philly, and Tampa. I watched the NFL Blitz, NFL Primetime, reviewed every major website this morning and barely a peep. You get the occassional review with "Denver's D looks good". John Clayton has been screaming praise for the "mistake by the lake". I really thought this was the game that legitimized us.

In an odd sort of way I think dominating J'Ville hurt us. I think that if Jacksonville had put forth a great game and we beat em close, more people would have paid attention. Instead they are all saying that J'Ville is inconsistent, played poorly, missing OL, yada, yada... Of course they are completely ignoring the fact that EVERYONE picked the Jags to win, that we had to travel to the East Coast on a short week, that we suck in Florida, that J'Ville had revenge on their minds, and that J'Ville's defense was supposed to be krytponite for our run game.

In the end, I guess its a good thing becuase I like flying below the radar right now.

Hogan11

10-03-2005, 07:07 AM

There ya go. I think we can lay low for a few more games and here's why.

Lets assume...

1. We beat the Redskins. Explanation: The Redskins are worse than their reccord of course.

2. We beat the Patriots: The Pats have key injuries.

3. We win in New York. Well if we are going to get repect it will be here. Though they could probably pass it off as "rookie jitters".

3. We beat Philly: Wel McNabb is hurting, so what do you expect.

I bet we'll see excuse after excuse for why we win each game - especially if the Manning Brothers keep winning.

Nothing for these guys is more difficult than admitting they were wrong.....they're experts afterall.

I love seeing them squirm when talking about the D-line now, it's classic Ha!

Traveler

10-03-2005, 07:27 AM

I have been very, very surprised at how little attention Denver is getting for this win. Everyone is talking about San Diego, Philly, and Tampa. I watched the NFL Blitz, NFL Primetime, reviewed every major website this morning and barely a peep. You get the occassional review with "Denver's D looks good". John Clayton has been screaming praise for the "mistake by the lake". I really thought this was the game that legitimized us.

In an odd sort of way I think dominating J'Ville hurt us. I think that if Jacksonville had put forth a great game and we beat em close, more people would have paid attention. Instead they are all saying that J'Ville is inconsistent, played poorly, missing OL, yada, yada... Of course they are completely ignoring the fact that EVERYONE picked the Jags to win, that we had to travel to the East Coast on a short week, that we suck in Florida, that J'Ville had revenge on their minds, and that J'Ville's defense was supposed to be krytponite for our run game.

In the end, I guess its a good thing becuase I like flying below the radar right now.

Agreed!

My hope is that the D can play consistently like this for the entire season. I really don't care if the media keeps disrespecting us. And as long as we don't have that midseason slump as in the past years, I couldn't be more excited! My hope is the Broncs don't start smelling themselves. Continue to remain grounded and hungry and the skies the limit.

Now, if only Tatum earns the opportuinity to take his game to the next level, that would be icing on the cake.

epicSocialism4tw

10-03-2005, 11:00 AM

Agreed!

My hope is that the D can play consistently like this for the entire season. I really don't care if the media keeps disrespecting us. And as long as we don't have that midseason slump as in the past years, I couldn't be more excited! My hope is the Broncs don't start smelling themselves. Continue to remain grounded and hungry and the skies the limit.

Now, if only Tatum earns the opportuinity to take his game to the next level, that would be icing on the cake.

I agree with you here.

Hopefully we will be able to weather the injuries that will come. IMO, that has been the downfall of this team in the 2nd half of the season since the superbowl squad left Denver.

Our defense looks better than anything we have thrown out there on either side of the ball in recent years, so maybe this is the year that we sustain production after the bye week.

westcliffe

10-03-2005, 11:05 AM

Peter King has the Broncos ranked #6 today. Damn, it appears that people are beginning to notice. I would rather fly under the radar for a while yet.

ludo21

10-03-2005, 11:13 AM

I hope no talking head out there ever mentions the Denver Broncos name. I hope when this team gets in the playoffs (prediction) that they forget all about us.

This team still has to beat a team which is a legitimate playoff contender. My hope is that they don't forget to beat everyone in front of them until then.

Agreed.

Altho i get annoyed watching the NFL shows and hearing the same crap over and over again, its nice to see that the analysts over look us and seem to think we are invisible. Charger game? got lucky. Chiefs? chiefs played bad. Jags? i honestly havent heard one word about this game anywhere. :kiddingme

Cant wait till week 10 or so when the heads will turn and go? what Denver is 8-2? or 9-1? Where did they come from?

Dr. Broncenstein

10-03-2005, 01:39 PM

(Browncos + Engleberger at 7 million) > (Reggie Heyward at 10million)

(Browncos + Engleberger's production) = ((Reggie Heyward's production) x 10)

Mike Shanahan > East Coast Media

BreesLightning

10-03-2005, 01:48 PM

We handled them once and we'll handle them again....you wanna know why?

Because we're winners and you don't lose faith in winners Ha!

WOOOOO! Ha!

Yup, you guys proved what "winners" you really were last year against us "losers" when it really mattered.

Good job "winners"!

BreesLightning

10-03-2005, 01:53 PM

Agreed.

Altho i get annoyed watching the NFL shows and hearing the same crap over and over again, its nice to see that the analysts over look us and seem to think we are invisible. Charger game? got lucky. Chiefs? chiefs played bad. Jags?

Yup, that last minute field goal to save our hides against the Pats was all luck. Thank god it was not a blow out.....