Sowerbum can't hold or kick deep

[Jetmeck]

Why didn't any of the kickoffs go through the end zone, we gave Dante the midget a lot of opportunities to bite us.
At least the refs are calling the blocks in the back on the red and white clowns these days but still this guy is supposed to boom them in MILE HIGH, WTF ?

I give him credit for punting, he did do a hell of a job there.

[Taco John]

I thought that read "Sideburn can't hold or kick deep."

[bendog]

Looking at his guns, I'd like to see a cage match with him and Crackowski.

[BMF Bronco]

Why didn't any of the kickoffs go through the end zone, we gave Dante the midget a lot of opportunities to bite us.
At least the refs are calling the blocks in the back on the red and white clowns these days but still this guy is supposed to boom them in MILE HIGH, WTF ?

I give him credit for punting, he did do a hell of a job there.

He's a hell of a lot better than what we've had the past couple of years!!!!!

[Ratboy]

He put it into the endzone plenty of times, Hall took it out each time.

[Jetmeck]

He's a hell of a lot better than what we've had the past couple of years!!!!!
TRue but he was putting them through the endzone in practice and with Dante the no factor back there I would have thought the coaches told him to not let him touch the ball ?

[Jetmeck]

He put it into the endzone plenty of times, Hall took it out each time.

1 or 2 yard deep is not going to dter many returners ?

[Jetmeck]

1 or 2 yard deep is not going to dter many returners ?


Guess the ROIDS ARE WEARING OFF.

[Ratboy]

1 or 2 yard deep is not going to dter many returners ?

Hmm, I racall it going atleast 5 yards back, Hall is hardly going to take a knee.

When you're down by a large margin, He won't EVER knee it.

[BMF Bronco]

TRue but he was putting them through the endzone in practice and with Dante the no factor back there I would have thought the coaches told him to not let him touch the ball ?

I think Burnsie paid him to not kick them so far so he'd get a chance to "Lynch" him.

[eddie mac]

1 or 2 yard deep is not going to dter many returners ?

What game did you watch? The final 2 kicks were unreturnable, kicked at an angle and went out the back of the corner of the endzone. FFS give the guy a break, you can get on his case when he makes a mistake that costs us a game. Until then button it!!

[Mile High Shack]

I thought he kicked all of them in the end zone and all but one Dante still took out b/c Dante thinks he can return any kick

[listopencil]

I recall one of his kicks going through the endzone, one of his later ones. It landed in the endzone first (I think just about all of his did) and bounced out through the back.

[Old Dude]

Hall was neutralized.

That's as good as it gets.

BTW, guess what player is leading the AFC in avg. yards per punt return?

Hint: begins with a "D" and it isn't "Dante."

[ozomulsion]

I also thought he did extemely well on kickoffs.

[Jetmeck]

lAST COUPLE BOUNCED THROUGH THE ENDZONE, ONLY ABOUT HALF of his kickoffs landed in the endzone. Our coverage is obviously better but obviously Sowerbrun power has been overstated.

[Jetmeck]

I also thought he did extemely well on kickoffs.

Seriously ? In MILE HIGH you thought that was good ?
You all are in for a shock at sea level this week then.

[Sodak]

Ernster is the kicker of the future. -If we can keep him...

[bendog]

I don't think his power was overstated. He didn't kick off last year. At sea level he should get them inside the 10 or even the 5.

[Jetmeck]

I don't think his power was overstated. He didn't kick off last year. At sea level he should get them inside the 10 or even the 5.

Since he didn't kickoff last year are you implying he might get better ?

[bendog]

No, I assumed he was not the kick off specialist he was when he was younger. He's a lot better than knorr or baker. But yeah, he has at best "passable" deep kickoff ability. I don't recall seeing anything about "hangtime" but my recollection is that he was getting decent height on the kickoffs.

[Jetmeck]

No, I assumed he was not the kick off specialist he was when he was younger. He's a lot better than knorr or baker. But yeah, he has at best "passable" deep kickoff ability. I don't recall seeing anything about "hangtime" but my recollection is that he was getting decent height on the kickoffs.

That is something I forgot, a lot of them were line drive type kicks too...not good especially with Dante back there.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Why didn't any of the kickoffs go through the end zone, we gave Dante the midget a lot of opportunities to bite us.
At least the refs are calling the blocks in the back on the red and white clowns these days but still this guy is supposed to boom them in MILE HIGH, WTF ?

I give him credit for punting, he did do a hell of a job there.
What game were you watching? He did fine and our coverage teams played great!! :(

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Denver Broncos at 15:00
T.Sauerbrun kicks 72 yards from DEN 30 to KC -2. D.Hall to KC 30 for 32 yards (L.Green).

Denver Broncos at 07:50
T.Sauerbrun kicks 74 yards from DEN 30 to KC -4. D.Hall to KC 24 for 28 yards (K.Burns).

Denver Broncos at 03:29
T.Sauerbrun kicks 75 yards from DEN 30 to KC -5. D.Hall to KC 39 for 44 yards (R.Alexander).
PENALTY on KC-K.Long, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at KC 20.

Denver Broncos at 02:36
T.Sauerbrun kicks 71 yards from DEN 30 to KC -1. D.Hall to KC 24 for 25 yards (C.Sapp).
PENALTY on KC-B.Grigsby, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at KC 21.

Second Quarter
Denver Broncos continued...
4-25-DEN33 (15:00) T.Sauerbrun punts 55 yards to KC 12, Center-M.Leach. D.Hall to KC 22 for 10 yards (M.Leach).

Denver Broncos at 05:59
T.Sauerbrun kicks 70 yards from DEN 30 to end zone, Touchback.

Denver Broncos at 08:34
T.Sauerbrun kicks 68 yards from DEN 30 to KC 2. D.Hall to KC 20 for 18 yards (K.Burns).

Denver Broncos at 12:30
T.Sauerbrun kicks 70 yards from DEN 30 to end zone, Touchback.

[Rulon Velvet Jones]

Don't you think there's also something to be said for Dante WANTING to return the kickoffs, to make one of his patented "block in the back" returns?

[Mile High Shack]

What game were you watching? He did fine and our coverage teams played great!! :(

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Denver Broncos at 15:00
T.Sauerbrun kicks 72 yards from DEN 30 to KC -2. D.Hall to KC 30 for 32 yards (L.Green).

Denver Broncos at 07:50
T.Sauerbrun kicks 74 yards from DEN 30 to KC -4. D.Hall to KC 24 for 28 yards (K.Burns).

Denver Broncos at 03:29
T.Sauerbrun kicks 75 yards from DEN 30 to KC -5. D.Hall to KC 39 for 44 yards (R.Alexander).
PENALTY on KC-K.Long, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at KC 20.

Denver Broncos at 02:36
T.Sauerbrun kicks 71 yards from DEN 30 to KC -1. D.Hall to KC 24 for 25 yards (C.Sapp).
PENALTY on KC-B.Grigsby, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at KC 21.

Second Quarter
Denver Broncos continued...
4-25-DEN33 (15:00) T.Sauerbrun punts 55 yards to KC 12, Center-M.Leach. D.Hall to KC 22 for 10 yards (M.Leach).

Denver Broncos at 05:59
T.Sauerbrun kicks 70 yards from DEN 30 to end zone, Touchback.

Denver Broncos at 08:34
T.Sauerbrun kicks 68 yards from DEN 30 to KC 2. D.Hall to KC 20 for 18 yards (K.Burns).

Denver Broncos at 12:30
T.Sauerbrun kicks 70 yards from DEN 30 to end zone, Touchback.

owned

[Ray Finkle]

I nominate this "USELESS THREAD OF THE DAY"....

[Jetmeck]

I nominate myself as "USELESS POSTER OF THE DAY"....

I fixed it for you.

[Ray Finkle]

I fixed it for you.


Nope, I was right the first time....

[Drek]

Beerslug hit the nail on the head. What problem? Negative yardage or a touchback on all but on KO? Doesn't get much better than that.

Talk about a worthless thread, and your attitude is horrid too, you've earned yourself a neg. rep from me, and I typically save that honor only for Bob.

[Atlas]

Why didn't any of the kickoffs go through the end zone, we gave Dante the midget a lot of opportunities to bite us.
At least the refs are calling the blocks in the back on the red and white clowns these days but still this guy is supposed to boom them in MILE HIGH, WTF ?

I give him credit for punting, he did do a hell of a job there.

WTH are you talking about?? He had one go through the end zone. Hall returned two that were kicked into the endzone and the other ones were inside the 5. What do you want??

[Atlas]

What game did you watch? The final 2 kicks were unreturnable, kicked at an angle and went out the back of the corner of the endzone. FFS give the guy a break, you can get on his case when he makes a mistake that costs us a game. Until then button it!!

Sounds like someone bi!ching to bi!ch.

[Ballhawk]

I guess some have a short memory of what it was like last year. Sourbum may be a headcase and cant hold on FGs, but he has improved the STs by 200% over what we had.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

I guess some have a short memory of what it was like last year. Sourbum may be a headcase and cant hold on FGs, but he has improved the STs by 200% over what we had.

Gotta give some of that rep to the coverage teams too. Burns, Brandon, Leach etc. are getting downfield and staying in their lanes the last two games.

[Broncoman13]

lAST COUPLE BOUNCED THROUGH THE ENDZONE, ONLY ABOUT HALF of his kickoffs landed in the endzone. Our coverage is obviously better but obviously Sowerbrun power has been overstated.


Dude, I don't see why you're going on and on about a PUNTER that happens to be kicking the ball into the endzone half the time. You want to flame on somebody why don't you point your wand toward ELAM. He's the kicker. He's the "expert" at kicking the ball from the ground. STFU already!

[Ballhawk]

Gotta give some of that rep to the coverage teams too. Burns, Brandon, Leach etc. are getting downfield and staying in their lanes the last two games.

True.

Can not believe all the negativity on this board after an impressive win...talk about nitpicking.

[Broncoman13]

I fixed it for you.


Finkle has his shiat together...can't say the same for you!

[Broncoman13]

I guess some have a short memory of what it was like last year. Sourbum may be a headcase and cant hold on FGs, but he has improved the STs by 200% over what we had.


Sourbunz didn't look all that different from Jake with his holds. Perhaps he got them down a little faster, but it wasn't really noticeable. Elam still missed one...not complaining, but I'm not sure you can blame it on the holder every time. Pretty soon we're going to sound like Parcells!

[watermock]

As long as SaurKraut keeps his nose clean and behaves, he's a MAJOR improvement. I don't care if it's Mile High. If your kicking all of but one into the endzone and booming punts for 55 and 70 yards, it's absurd not to see improvement.

I also agree, our coverage looks better with Burns leading the charge, and DW is doing great returning punts. Special Teams are DRAMATICALLY better.

[JCMElway]

He put it into the endzone plenty of times, Hall took it out each time.

Agreed. Sauerbrun is doing a great job kicking deep. As for the holding, he's not the best. At least one of Elam's missed 50 yarders was Sauer's fault. Why don't we let Van Pelt do the holding? It would certainly give us some flexibility as far as fake kicks go.

[Popps]

Why didn't any of the kickoffs go through the end zone, we gave Dante the midget a lot of opportunities to bite us.
At least the refs are calling the blocks in the back on the red and white clowns these days but still this guy is supposed to boom them in MILE HIGH, WTF ?

I give him credit for punting, he did do a hell of a job there.

Dude, do you actually watch the games? I've read two posts by you today.. one about Plummer and now this: both patently false.

[Jetmeck]

Yep it's all good. No need to discuss anything that might be improved. The deepest any kick got into the endzone was a couple of yards, returnable by ANY team in the nfl. He was kicking them through the endzone most of the time in camp.
If it was not for excellent coverage the midget would have burned us, simply put if it had been a one TD game we could have been screwed. You guys to good to talk about problems go be a Chefs fan. When kicking in Mile High it is should be consistently 5-7 yards deep just like in camp. Go read the previous threads about Shanahan and company bitching about ERNSTER.
I post because I have a concern, I SURE AS HE** don't post just to smart off to somebody because I don't agree with them unless it is BOOB. Some of you "kids" on here with your smart a** comments would be in a world of trouble in real life running your mouth like that. If you don't agree with somebody, great chime in. Being an a** is a different story.

[watermock]

Evidently you don't remember Elams kicks to the 18 or Knorrs 33 yard punts. If Ernster was kicking them thru the goalposts it would be another story, but he wasn't.

[Jetmeck]

Beerslug hit the nail on the head. What problem? Negative yardage or a touchback on all but on KO? Doesn't get much better than that.

Talk about a worthless thread, and your attitude is horrid too, you've earned yourself a neg. rep from me, and I typically save that honor only for Bob.

My attitude is horrid, you to funny. Who posted the smartass comment about a useless thread ? Not me and I could care less about rep around here. I call them like I see them. Look under my name, do you any fancy sigs or avatars, nope not here for that, only Bronco news, no need your rep.

[BroncoInferno]

The biggest problem with his kickoffs seem to be the lack of hangtime. But, at least against KC, he neutralized this weakness by beautifully angling the kicks to a position where it was hard for Hall to get a good return. Hopefully, this will continue to be the case.

[Ballhawk]

Ernster got IRd if it wasn't mentioned so Sourbum is what we have and will have to handle the KO duties for the rest of the year...Im more than ok with that.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Yep it's all good. No need to discuss anything that might be improved. The deepest any kick got into the endzone was a couple of yards, returnable by ANY team in the nfl. He was kicking them through the endzone most of the time in camp.
If it was not for excellent coverage the midget would have burned us, simply put if it had been a one TD game we could have been screwed. You guys to good to talk about problems go be a Chefs fan. When kicking in Mile High it is should be consistently 5-7 yards deep just like in camp. Go read the previous threads about Shanahan and company b****ing about ERNSTER.
I post because I have a concern, I SURE AS HE** don't post just to smart off to somebody because I don't agree with them unless it is BOOB. Some of you "kids" on here with your smart a** comments would be in a world of trouble in real life running your mouth like that. If you don't agree with somebody, great chime in. Being an a** is a different story.
What part of the kickoff stats don't you understand that I posted?

[BroncoInferno]

What part of the kickoff stats don't you understand that I posted?
He apparently doesn't relize that angling kickoffs is equally important to depth. As long as Todd keeps angling like he did against KC, we will be more than fine. However, his lack of hangtime does worry me slightly.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

He apparently doesn't relize that angling kickoffs is equally important to depth. As long as Todd keeps angling like he did against KC, we will be more than fine. However, his lack of hangtime does worry me slightly.
Yeah I was worried about that too until he ended up with 2 touchbacks and 4 more kicks into the endzone. I really wanted Ernster to come through but sourdoughboy is 5 times better than what we've had in the past so far.

[DBroncos4life]

Hall would return a kick that landed in Aspen.

[Drek]

My attitude is horrid, you to funny. Who posted the smartass comment about a useless thread ? Not me and I could care less about rep around here. I call them like I see them. Look under my name, do you any fancy sigs or avatars, nope not here for that, only Bronco news, no need your rep.
It is, you're stating groundless claims that get dismantled, yet you still prattle on. Sorry, NO KO guy is expected to boom every kickoff through the back of the endzone, even at altitude. Hall was bringing back balls that no kicker should bring back, and he hurt the Chiefs doing so.

As for rep, I don't care about my own rep either, but it lets new posters know who the quality members are as well as the bad ones. I hope enough people neg rep you so that any new members will know right from the bat that you talk out of your ass, because apparently thats all you're looking to do, definately not discuss Broncos football.

[jbiel]

The 5 kicks that were returned were returned with an average of starting 2 yds deep in the endzone. Combine that with 2 touchbacks, I wouldn't worry too much. Remember this was Dante Hall and he barely got passed the 30.

Todd and the whole special teams did a hell of a job.

The last few years and against Miami the kick returner was catching it on the 10 yard line. Quit worrying man...

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I think this thread topic is pretty stupid. Sauerbrun did a great job against Hall.

[Rock Chalk]

Why didn't any of the kickoffs go through the end zone, we gave Dante the midget a lot of opportunities to bite us.
At least the refs are calling the blocks in the back on the red and white clowns these days but still this guy is supposed to boom them in MILE HIGH, WTF ?

I give him credit for punting, he did do a hell of a job there.
Umm, Sourbum as you call him, is the PUNTER. Why the **** isnt our overpaid FG kicker kicking off? Oh thats right, because SOURBUM KICKS THEM FARTHER. Wanna bitch at something? Bitch at our 50 bazillion dollar a year FG kicker who keeps shanking kicks.

[Kaylore]

This thread should go to the crack. The opener is total crap based on nothing really and the rest is just people making fun of how stupid this thread is.

[Rock Chalk]

This thread should go to the crack. The opener is total crap based on nothing really and the rest is just people making fun of how stupid this thread is.
All threads end up that way, just look more closely. You will see.

[enjolras]

Umm, Sourbum as you call him, is the PUNTER. Why the **** isnt our overpaid FG kicker kicking off? Oh thats right, because SOURBUM KICKS THEM FARTHER. Wanna b**** at something? b**** at our 50 bazillion dollar a year FG kicker who keeps shanking kicks.

Elam isn't kicking off because he keeps getting hurt. His kicking motion is really hard on his hips, particularly when he lays into one (as in kicking off). His kick-offs, when he was still doing it weren't spectacular, but still pretty decent.

[Rock Chalk]

Elam isn't kicking off because he keeps getting hurt. His kicking motion is really hard on his hips, particularly when he lays into one (as in kicking off). His kick-offs, when he was still doing it weren't spectacular, but still pretty decent.
Umm no. Elam never got to the end zone except on that rare occasion he was at home AND the wind was behind him. 5 or 10 yards out is where Elam kicked teh ball.

And if he is gimpy, why the **** are we paying him so much? Dont get me wrong, I love the guy, he has come through many times in the past, but dude has shanked 3 FGs he should have made. 50+ yarders arent a given for most kickers, but for Elam, for what he does on the field, they god damn well better be.

[Clockwork Orange]

The Broncos punter is getting ragged on for everything but his punting. Allrighty then.::)

His kickoffs haven't been bad at all really. They're line drives but they're finding the end zone. Not mind blowing but not making me pine for Micah Knorr either.

He's done what's asked of him, kept his mouth shut and his name off the police blotter. I'm allright with him.

[FADERPROOF]

Umm, Sourbum as you call him, is the PUNTER. Why the **** isnt our overpaid FG kicker kicking off? Oh thats right, because SOURBUM KICKS THEM FARTHER. Wanna b**** at something? b**** at our 50 bazillion dollar a year FG kicker who keeps shanking kicks.

Exactly, make an argument against Elam and the whole board shuts up defending him.

I've done it numerous times, it works.

[FADERPROOF]

I think this thread topic is pretty stupid. Sauerbrun did a great job against Hall.

We all think that you're pretty stupid.