Matchup I would like to see

[Ballhawk]

I would love to see Walls put on Tony G. With his size I think he could be very solid against Tony. This would leave Champ on Kennison and Dwill on Parker, and I like all three matchups.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Did the Broncos not have Walls last season opener? I know he was hurt for the 2nd game.

Anyway I don't know what it is, but it seems you guys have a good system for holding Gonzalez to a minimal amount of catches and yards in recent history. I know Bailey didn't cover him exclusively in the 1st game and even less in the 2nd game so I'm guessing Coyer mixes it up quite a bit.

Don't know if Champ covering Gonzo one-on-one is a good idea with that shoulder.

[2KBack]

Did the Broncos not have Walls last season opener? I know he was hurt for the 2nd game.

Anyway I don't know what it is, but it seems you guys have a good system for holding Gonzalez to a minimal amount of catches and yards in recent history. I know Bailey didn't cover him exclusively in the 1st game and even less in the 2nd game so I'm guessing Coyer mixes it up quite a bit.

Don't know if Champ covering Gonzo one-on-one is a good idea with that shoulder.

Yeah, walls was out in the opener, Watts juked him into an injury during training camp. I agree that having Champ on Gonzo might be a risk. Walls would match up size wise maybe, but I don't know if he is physical enough.

[Bronco9798]

In my opinion, that would be the worse match up we could possibly see. Walls usually covers the No#2 receiver and he isn't very good at that. Gonzo is the Chiefs No#1 threat basically. So you're asking Walls to cover the Chiefs No#1 receiver.

Walls size is over-rated. His cover skills are average and his bump and run skills are below average. It's hard to use that size when you are playing 5 to 10 yards off your receiver. How many times do you actually see Walls use his size to his advantage?
Gonzo would eat Walls up on his routes and Walls size would be to no advantage.

That's my opinion.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

That's good to know, I was worried about Parker not being able to get off the line.

[Bronco9798]

That's good to know, I was worried about Parker not being able to get off the line.

Watch Walls when he lines up with Parker Monday night. I've yet to see him bump anybody off the line.

[2KBack]

In my opinion, that would be the worse match up we could possibly see. Walls usually covers the No#2 receiver and he isn't very good at that. Gonzo is the Chiefs No#1 threat basically. So you're asking Walls to cover the Chiefs No#1 receiver.

Walls size is over-rated. His cover skills are average and his bump and run skills are below average. It's hard to use that size when you are playing 5 to 10 yards off your receiver. How many times do you actually see Walls use his size to his advantage?
Gonzo would eat Walls up on his routes and Walls size would be to no advantage.

That's my opinion.

I've been syaing my prayers every night in hopes that the 10 yard cushion coverage would stop.

[Kaylore]

Gonzo is the Chiefs #1 target, but he's still a tight end. That means he's slower and not as quick as his receiver counter parts. Obviously his power and ability to make catches in traffic are his advantage. I'm not real worried about who we put on him. I think it depends on the down and their tendencies as an offense. Coyer seems to have figured out the best way of defensing Gonzo, so I'm not concerned about that really.


And Bob, Bailey is a week healthier than last weak, so I'm pretty sure the shoulder is going to be even less of an issue than it was last week.

[Ballhawk]

In my opinion, that would be the worse match up we could possibly see. Walls usually covers the No#2 receiver and he isn't very good at that. Gonzo is the Chiefs No#1 threat basically. So you're asking Walls to cover the Chiefs No#1 receiver.

Walls size is over-rated. His cover skills are average and his bump and run skills are below average. It's hard to use that size when you are playing 5 to 10 yards off your receiver. How many times do you actually see Walls use his size to his advantage?
Gonzo would eat Walls up on his routes and Walls size would be to no advantage.

That's my opinion.

I do not think Coyer would allow Walls to play 10 yards off the TE. Walls does not do well with the double fakes but I think he would do well against Tony and has the speed to stay with him. Walls would get the safty help on Fergy also, it is not like he would have to man up on him. Looking past what you loose with Walls on Gonzo think about what you gain with Dwill on Parker. He is a tenacious little bugger in run support and would be better on the edge.

With Gonzo, I would have DJ bump him at the line, release him to Walls who could play agressively knowing he has over the top help in Lynch and Fergy. This would let DJ stay closer to the line and make plays off of the initial bump, paticularly with the RB coming out of the backfield.

[Bronco9798]

Gonzo is the Chiefs #1 target, but he's still a tight end. That means he's slower and not as quick as his receiver counter parts. Obviously his power and ability to make catches in traffic are his advantage. I'm not real worried about who we put on him. I think it depends on the down and their tendencies as an offense. Coyer seems to have figured out the best way of defensing Gonzo, so I'm not concerned about that really.


And Bob, Bailey is a week healthier than last weak, so I'm pretty sure the shoulder is going to be even less of an issue than it was last week.

Yeah but he always finds a way to get open. It's how you run the route and find the seams which he has a knack of doing. I think Walls would get schooled. Then again, we're not going to see it so it really don't matter. :-)

[DB-Freak]

I just hope Quitterson doesnt school Champ again.

I'll ****ing puke.

[Bronco9798]

Quickness and instincts are the key if you're covering Gonzo. If he was running 30 and 40 yard deep routes I'd give the speed some credit. Gonzo is going to run mostly short to intermediate routes. He'll occassionaly get deep but not that often. I don't think speed is a big asset covering him.

[Kaylore]

Nobody has really pointed this out, but Darrent was covering McCardell on a few downs. I wouldn't be surprised to see him covering Parker or even Kennison.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Leaping ability is the main thing. If you put someone on Gonzalez that can't jump, Tony will eat them alive.

[DB-Freak]

Nobody has really pointed this out, but Darrent was covering McCardell on a few downs. I wouldn't be surprised to see him covering Parker or even Kennison.
Darrent has the ability to stay with almost anyone.

[Bronco9798]

I've been syaing my prayers every night in hopes that the 10 yard cushion coverage would stop.

I cringe everytime the ball goes to Walls side. Here's what you'll see. The receiver makes the catch, he gains another 7-12 yards and Walls makes the tackle. You see it over and over. I never see him deflect a pass or make a play on the ball. It's catch, run, and tackle. It's really disturbing.

[Ballhawk]

Well Coyer likes to use DBs on these top TEs (see Chgamp and Middlebrooks last year) I very much doubt we will see Champ covering him with the shoulder and definately not DWill (that would be halarious tho). I think Paymah would be a good choice as he very physical, but does not do well in zone. It then falls to Walls who at 6'4" would not have to leap much.

[DBroncos4life]

I'm sure DJ will be shadowing him. If the front 4 can get a passrush going then coverage will get much tighter.

[Bronco9798]

I actually expect to see a combination/alternation of Champ and Fergy covering Gonzo. Is that the best match-up, who knows? That's just what I think.

[DBroncos4life]

I want to see how our Dline does against the leftside of KC's line. Kelly and Burgress combined for 8 tackles and a sack against them. Our line with Pryce and Warren are much, much better at getting to the QB. Then we have Engelberger to toss in there to keep the pressure on.

[elsid13]

I expect we will see the same coverage that occurred last week on Gates, Fergy and a LB or Brandon on passing down.

[Paladin]

I think the real key is going to be the Dline pressure.

[ncjmirabile]

Looking past what you loose with Walls on Gonzo think about what you gain with Dwill on Parker. He is a tenacious little bugger in run support and would be better on the edge.

D-Will has to show he can take on the bigger backs like a Johnson on the perimeter and not get run over because of his size.

[Rausch]

I wouldn't change the game plan. Last time covering Gonzo worked pretty good, I'd do it again IIWY...

Covering Gonzo with Bailey allows you to keep Lynch and the LB's in the box to stop the run, which you'll need to do...

[Spider]

With the Talent we got , no reason a simple zone shouldnt work ..... got to love How Gold gets to the QB .......

[Bob's your Information Minister]

With the Talent we got , no reason a simple zone shouldnt work ..... got to love How Gold gets to the QB .......

The Chiefs can pick up a blitz, unlike SD.

[Mediator12]

Screw Covering Gonzalez. Maul his ass like NE does to TE's inside the 5 yard rule. Smack his ass every play and then pass him to the safety.

DJ needs to Jam him every play off the line or zone him and let Al smack him from the side.

[Mediator12]

The Chiefs can pick up a blitz, unlike SD.

They can pick up the Blitz, but will they? It all comes down to execution. If Roaf Plays, then less blitzing. If he does not, then bring the heat.

[Spider]

The Chiefs can pick up a blitz, unlike SD.
LOL . point is ? you realize picking up the blitz generaly means there is one less reciever running a pattern right ?

[DBroncos4life]

They can pick up the Blitz, but will they? It all comes down to execution. If Roaf Plays, then less blitzing. If he does not, then bring the heat.



Oh they will because KC is the greatest of the greatest. Nothing they do is wrong and everyone they have is pro bowl caliber.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

LOL . point is ? you realize picking up the blitz generaly means there is one less reciever running a pattern right ?

Yes. My point is, the Chiefs are one of the best blitz pick up teams in the league. Coyer's "balls to the wall" strategy won't work this week.

[DivineLegion]

D-Will has to show he can take on the bigger backs like a Johnson on the perimeter and not get run over because of his size.

LOL did you see his hit v.s. The Texans...I think he can handle making a tackle...

[Spider]

Yes. My point is, the Chiefs are one of the best blitz pick up teams in the league. Coyer's "balls to the wall" strategy won't work this week.
Hilarious! ...... Welcome ot Bobs world ... you do understand that we didnt have Gold Last year , and he missed some time the Year before right ?

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Hilarious! ...... Welcome ot Bobs world ... you do understand that we didnt have Gold Last year , and he missed some time the Year before right ?

I really don't care. Gold's a nice linebacker but not a playmaker.

[DivineLegion]

I really don't care. Gold's a nice linebacker but not a playmaker.

I thought he looked like one the second half of the SD game... :charge:

[DBroncos4life]

I really don't care. Gold's a nice linebacker but not a playmaker.



Well he sure isn't Bell :stupid:

[Spider]

I really don't care. Gold's a nice linebacker but not a playmaker.
LOL ....... Gee Bob you have the KC defense on your side , and you want to talk about playmakers ??? Hilarious!

[Bob's your Information Minister]

LOL ....... Gee Bob you have the KC defense on your side , and you want to talk about playmakers ??? Hilarious!

Don't deflect.

[Spider]

Don't deflect.
Well put somthing out there that has some reason to it ...

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Well put somthing out there that has some reason to it ...

Look, I came on this thread and stated that the Broncos likely wouldn't have as much success blitzing so much because, unlike SD, KC knows how to pick up a blitz.

Then you spat out some gibberish about Ian Gold? Try posting something that makes sense one in awhile.

[DBroncos4life]

Look, I came on this thread and stated that the Broncos likely wouldn't have as much success blitzing so much because, unlike SD, KC knows how to pick up a blitz.

Then you spat out some gibberish about Ian Gold? Try posting something that makes sense one in awhile.


Dunn your best blocking TE is out, TRich is less the 100% and so is Roaf. Leaving who to really help block? Kris Wilson? Please I'll take Gold against Wilson any sunday, and even some Mondays.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Dunn your best blocking TE is out, TRich is less the 100% and so is Roaf. Leaving who to really help block? Kris Wilson? Please I'll take Gold against Wilson any sunday, and even some Mondays.

Dunn is out?

This is why you have no credibility...

And T-Rich played last week and was just fine.

[Spider]

Look, I came on this thread and stated that the Broncos likely wouldn't have as much success blitzing so much because, unlike SD, KC knows how to pick up a blitz.

Then you spat out some gibberish about Ian Gold? Try posting something that makes sense one in awhile.
LOL . calm down Bobby , My point is you guys havent faced Gold in a while , not only he is good at Blitzing but he does other things as well , I know you being Chief fan and all you realy dont grasp what gold brings to the game , after all Chief fans , you also were singing all we need is Goonther tune , so your track record on understanding defenses is suspect at best ....... All we need is Goonther Hilarious!

[Bob's your Information Minister]

My point is you guys havent faced Gold in a while

We faced him last year. He had a whopping five tackles, zero sacks, zero interceptions.

[DBroncos4life]

Dunn is out?

This is why you have no credibility...

And T-Rich played last week and was just fine.


Chiefs | Dunn Sits Out, Status Uncertain
Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:28:11 -0700

Adam Teicher, of the Kansas City Star, reports Kansas City Chiefs TE Jason Dunn (knee) remains uncertain to play during Week 3 and did not practice Thursday, Sept. 22.


Chiefs | Richardson Likely to Play
Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:27:52 -0700

Adam Teicher, of the Kansas City Star, reports Kansas City Chiefs FB Tony Richardson (knee, ankle) did not practice Thursday, Sept. 22, but is expected to play during Week 3.


Like I said TRich is less then 100%

Chiefs | Boerigter Might be Active Week 3
Sat, 24 Sep 2005 12:20:47 -0700

KCChiefs.com reports Kansas City Chiefs head coach Dick Vermeil said that WR Marc Boerigter could be active if TE Jason Dunn (knee) can't play Week 3 against the Denver Broncos. Vermeil said, "It could mean there's a roster spot and it could be Boerigter."

[DBroncos4life]

We faced him last year. He had a whopping five tackles, zero sacks, zero interceptions.


all while playing strong side

[Spider]

We faced him last year. He had a whopping five tackles, zero sacks, zero interceptions.
And he was a Buc not Bronco and He Played Sam not Will ......... So I ask again your point is what ?

[DarkHorse]

I cringe everytime the ball goes to Walls side. Here's what you'll see. The receiver makes the catch, he gains another 7-12 yards and Walls makes the tackle. You see it over and over. I never see him deflect a pass or make a play on the ball. It's catch, run, and tackle. It's really disturbing.


Thank you.


His inability to locate the ball when it is in the air makes me sick. It always looks like he's slow to react to the pass.

[Spider]

all while playing strong side
Looks like Mommy put a little too much kick into Bobbys eggnogg

[Bob's your Information Minister]

My point is, we HAVE faced Ian Gold recently. You were WRONG. Thanks for playing, SpiDUHr.

[DBroncos4life]

Looks like Mommy put a little too much kick into Bobbys eggnogg



I would have to agree. :~ohyah!:

[Spider]

My point is, we HAVE faced Ian Gold recently. You were WRONG. Thanks for playing, SpiDUHr.
You goof ...... He played Sam for the Bucs .....

[Spider]

Let me put it in terms Bobby can understand . ok Bobby .. Lets Pretend that Luke Sky Walker got his other hand cut off and he had to learn every thing with his weak hand , not even the force can help luke untill he learns how to do everything with his weak hand .........

[DivineLegion]

Let me put it in terms Bobby can understand . ok Bobby .. Lets Pretend that Luke Sky Walker got his other hand cut off and he had to learn every thing with his weak hand , not even the force can help luke untill he learns how to do everything with his weak hand .........

Unless he was amphibious... :flower:

[Spider]

Unless he was amphibious... :flower:
Dont go pulling that **** ;D ......

[DivineLegion]

Dont go pulling that **** ;D ......

Eh...My boys just got beat by a bunch of smurfs I have a temporary privlage :thumbsup:

BTW Dident Gold only serve a limited roll in Tampa last season?

[Spider]

Eh...My boys just got beat by a bunch of smurfs I have a temporary privlage :thumbsup:

BTW Dident Gold only serve a limited roll in Tampa last season?
;D I think so he was still rehabing his Knee

[DivineLegion]

;D I think so he was still rehabing his Knee

So I guess for a guy comming off an ACL injury serving a limited roll 5 tackles isent to bad???

[Spider]

So I guess for a guy comming off an ACL injury serving a limited roll 5 tackles isent to bad???
Lets Confuse Bobby even more ;D

[DivineLegion]

Or Luke I am your mother...and your sister

[Spider]

Or Luke I am your mother...and your sister
LOL

[DivineLegion]

Poor Bob he probably has developed an insecurity hanging out on this board...

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Poor Bob he probably has developed an insecurity hanging out on this board...

It was developed LONG before I found this place.

[DivineLegion]

It was developed LONG before I found this place.

LOL I might have to rep you for knowing how to take a joke... Ha!

[elsid13]

Poor Bob he probably has developed an insecurity hanging out on this board...

It was developed LONG before I found this place.


Responses like this, and the one that you stated that you liked male genital, guarantee that one day you will end up on the Jerry Springer show or KC low class version of Jerry.

[ncjmirabile]

LOL did you see his hit v.s. The Texans...I think he can handle making a tackle...
Yes I did, but that hasn't proven anything yet. Lets see how he responds when a Jamal Lewis, Gonzalez, Porter or Larry Johnson catches a pass and comes running right at him.

[DivineLegion]

:thumbs: Yes I did, but that hasn't proven anything yet. Lets see how he responds when a Jamal Lewis, Gonzalez, Porter or Larry Johnson catches a pass and comes running right at him.

I think hes a realy good tackler he knows how to hit guys open field and uses his speed to his advantage. You might get crushed by an 18 wheeler but your still gonna be dead if you get hit by a honda Civic going 120...though that analogy might not work it sounds cool.

[ncjmirabile]

:thumbs:

I think hes a realy good tackler he knows how to hit guys open field and uses his speed to his advantage. You might get crushed by an 18 wheeler but your still gonna be dead if you get hit by a honda Civic going 120...though that analogy might not work it sounds cool.


He's okay in tackling so far. The guys like Gonzalez, Lewis, Johnson, Porter, and to an extent Jordan will test him especially his durability in tackling.

[DivineLegion]

He's okay in tackling so far. The guys like Gonzalez, Lewis, Johnson, Porter, and to an extent Jordan will test him especially his durability in tackling.

I agree...but hopefuly he will lay some wood. Good # choice by the kid if he need some extra voodoo :charge: