An Effective Rotation

[DBroncos4life]

By Andrew Mason
DenverBroncos.com

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- In a small respect, Courtney Brown was the final piece of a puzzle when he made his Broncos debut Sunday.

No, perhaps not in the overall scheme, though time and potential success could make that true. Yet on the Broncos' defensive line, Brown's entry allowed the team to complete its rotation along the front four, as Brown and Demetrin Veal each made their Denver debuts, rotating into the action.

The result? Both Brown and Veal had sacks in their first Broncos games after being inactive a week earlier, and the defensive front consistently crashed through the San Diego offensive line after halftime, neutralizing the Chargers' usually-potent attack and, the Broncos hope, providing a glimpse of what could be ahead.

To be certain, the collective pressure mounted by the defensive line was different than anything the Broncos have witnessed in the last year -- which isn't altogether unexpected given the presence of five offseason newcomers among the Broncos' nine linemen, along with Veal, who signed late last season but didn't take his on-field bow until Sunday.

The difference was immediately apparent to defensive coordinator Larry Coyer.

"We're certainly bigger, faster than we've been," Coyer said. "Our guys are okay. They can play at a high level; they just have to know that. We're not without talent, let's put it that way."

In the second half against that San Diego, that talent began raising a ruckus that the Chargers could barely contain. Their running back, LaDainian Tomlinson, only gained 11 yards on nine carries after halftime after gaining 41 on 10 rushes before. Quarterback Drew Brees averaged 1.6 yards per pass play after intermission after averaging 9.2 yards prior; that disparity was due in large part to the quartet of sacks the Broncos amassed, totaling 41 yards in losses.

Denver had allowed 6.9 yards a play in the first half and permitted a miserly 1.6 in the second. That was the kind of dominance the Broncos thought the reconfigured front four could create.

"It was a hell of a defensive game and it started up front with those guys," safety Nick Ferguson said. "My hat goes off to them, Courtney Brown, Gerard Warren, Ebenezer Ekuban, Michael Myers. They did what they were supposed to do -- that they were brought in to do."

So too did Trevor Pryce, Veal and John Engelberger. All contributed to varying degrees.

"It means a lot," Ekuban said. "Whether you're a starter or a backup, pretty much everyone gets close to equal snaps. It's tremendous if you can have your second guy come in and play as well as your first-string guys, because you never miss a beat. It's definitely a big plus for us."

But Ekuban wants to see something else from himself and his linemates -- the ability to generate pressure on their own, without supplemental blitzers from other lines of defense.

"I think that's one thing we still have to really work on is trying to get four-man pressure on the quarterback, so the linebackers can help the corners or vice versa in coverage," Ekuban said. "That's something we're still trying to work on, and we're going to keep working on it so we can alleviate some of the pressure on the linebackers."

Nevertheless, the linemen did account for two of the four second-half sacks Sunday. Denver's reconstructed defensive line has now excelled once. The real test lies in repreating the feat against an offense as prolific as Kansas City's.

"That's the level you've got to play at," Coyer said. "We're playing the No. 1 offense in football -- this team and the Colts -- they're very talented, so you've got to play at a very high level.

"We're capable; now we've got to go out and do it every week. This will certainly test us."

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[Kaylore]

Brown's sack came off of a four man rush.

[2KBack]

Brown's sack came off of a four man rush.

and it was domination the whole way, he manhandled his man back until he was parallel with Bress.

[DarkHorse30]

and it was domination the whole way, he manhandled his man back until he was parallel with Bress.

and it was the LT on a pass...yeouch! Marty busted a hammy on that one.

[bendog]

I see this guy as maybe a Jumpy Geathers type. He comes in for maybe 5 games healthy and just dominates his guy.

[patteeu]

I'm concerned about the Broncos defensive line againt my Chiefs patched up OL. I hope we can establish the run because I don't want to see how effective your pass rush is if we can't.

[RaiderH8r]

I'm concerned about the Broncos defensive line againt my Chiefs patched up OL. I hope we can establish the run because I don't want to see how effective your pass rush is if we can't.
The run is really the lynch pin, assuming there's not a total DB breakdown. You run you win. I still think Tate packing up took will take a toll on your offensive production. He and Roaf were bookends that paved road. But alas, he's no longer with the club.

[bendog]

Yeah, but Roaf, if he can play effectively, is too much a load for the slimmed down TP. Roaf's like an RT on run plays, and Shields can handle Myers, though Myers is definitely no pimp. I don't think the chiefs will be able to run right at all. I don't know whether their offensive package has much of Gonzo over on Roaf's side making that the strong side, but running at TP and Gold (if Roaf's good to go) would be what I'd try.

[Broncoman13]

Brown's sack came off of a four man rush.


Not only did his sack come from a 4 man rush, but his presence on the field allowed Ian Gold to get in there without being blocked.

Courtney Brown.....TMMFRT!!! And that my friends is why I'm his proud pappa along with my co-adopter Anny!

[Broncoman13]

Yeah, but Roaf, if he can play effectively, is too much a load for the slimmed down TP. Roaf's like an RT on run plays, and Shields can handle Myers, though Myers is definitely no pimp. I don't think the chiefs will be able to run right at all. I don't know whether their offensive package has much of Gonzo over on Roaf's side making that the strong side, but running at TP and Gold (if Roaf's good to go) would be what I'd try.

They run to the left regardless. Whether Willie is on the field or not they will run to the left and they will have some success doing it. They're good at what they do and running to their left is their bread and butter.

[Jetmeck]

Yeah, but Roaf, if he can play effectively, is too much a load for the slimmed down TP. Roaf's like an RT on run plays, and Shields can handle Myers, though Myers is definitely no pimp. I don't think the chiefs will be able to run right at all. I don't know whether their offensive package has much of Gonzo over on Roaf's side making that the strong side, but running at TP and Gold (if Roaf's good to go) would be what I'd try.

Roaf is not good to go regardless of what you here otherwise. From his own lips on KC local news just minutes ago at this point he isn't going to play.
"There is a chance " but he is hurting.

[DBroncos4life]

Roaf is not good to go regardless of what you here otherwise. From his own lips on KC local news just minutes ago at this point he isn't going to play.
"There is a chance " but he is hurting.


Roaf from what I have read hasn't practiced all week. Something tells me he won't go and if he does he won't be near 100%, he would be lucky if he was 75% for the game. If he plays he will get owned.

[patteeu]

Roaf from what I have read hasn't practiced all week. Something tells me he won't go and if he does he won't be near 100%, he would be lucky if he was 75% for the game. If he plays he will get owned.

If he plays, he won't get owned (even if he's less than 100%), but I don't think he's going to play. I think they are going to be conservative with him to avoid risk of further injury.

[ludo21]

You cant forget Veals bull rush, he ran over his guy and got right to the QB. I hope the DL dominates and the run game be non-existant for the Chiefs. 1-1 our corners will be ok, but add in that variable of PA it'll be tuff.

[DBroncos4life]

If he plays, he won't get owned (even if he's less than 100%), but I don't think he's going to play. I think they are going to be conservative with him to avoid risk of further injury.


He's 35 and over 300 pounds with what appears to be a pretty bad hammy injury. I don't think he could handle a healthy Brown. If he was 100% I would say hell yeah he could but, like I said it doesn't sound like he is even close to 75%. Say what you want about Brown but the guy is fast and stronger then any end we have had here. He pushed a healthy tackle into the back field many times last week. I think he would do the same to Roaf if he tries to play hurt.

[DBroncos4life]

Crap is it Pryce that would go up against Roaf or the guy that takes his place. I think I'm messing that up.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Pryce being the RE would line up against Roaf.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

He's 35 and over 300 pounds with what appears to be a pretty bad hammy injury..

It's not that bad. Initially they thought it was, but it wasn't, and that was over a week ago. I think he's going to play.

[DBroncos4life]

Pryce being the RE would line up against Roaf.


Yes bob I forgot about the switch.

[DBroncos4life]

It's not that bad. Initially they thought it was, but it wasn't, and that was over a week ago. I think he's going to play.



He didn't practice today. Has he all week?

[DBroncos4life]

He didn't Thrusday or Friday. Thats a lot of reps that he is missing. Might not be a good idea to start him against us if thats the case.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Roaf has been in this offense for a long damn time. He's missed practice before and played (Green Bay).

Where did you see he didn't practice today?

[DBroncos4life]

Roaf has been in this offense for a long damn time. He's missed practice before and played (Green Bay).

Where did you see he didn't practice today?


Chiefs | Roaf Misses Practice, Questionable for Week 3
Fri, 23 Sep 2005 15:30:25 -0700

Adam Teicher, of the Kansas City Star, reports Kansas City Chiefs OT William Roaf (hamstring) missed practice Friday, Sept. 23 and is questionable for Week 3.


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Chiefs | Roaf Sits Out, Status Uncertain
Thu, 22 Sep 2005 16:29:47 -0700

Adam Teicher, of the Kansas City Star, reports Kansas City Chiefs OT William Roaf (hamstring) did not practice Thursday, Sept. 22, and his status remains uncertain for Week 3.


Bob hes 35 years old.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Alot of great offensive lineman play into their late 30s.

[ludo21]

Roaf has been in this offense for a long damn time. He's missed practice before and played (Green Bay).

Where did you see he didn't practice today?


Him playing will be a result of how much the Chiefs respect the DL of the Broncos IMO. I know its not that big of a game for the Chefs as it is for us, but if we win our confidence will be soaring and the Chiefs wont be atop the division anymore.

[Bronco9798]

Alot of great offensive lineman play into their late 30s.

And when they get injuries it normally takes them longer to recover.

[patteeu]

He's 35 and over 300 pounds with what appears to be a pretty bad hammy injury. I don't think he could handle a healthy Brown. If he was 100% I would say hell yeah he could but, like I said it doesn't sound like he is even close to 75%. Say what you want about Brown but the guy is fast and stronger then any end we have had here. He pushed a healthy tackle into the back field many times last week. I think he would do the same to Roaf if he tries to play hurt.

If he's that hurt he won't be playing. If he plays, he'll stone Brown or Pryce just like he stones everyone else.

[patteeu]

All week long, they've been saying he will play if he can practice by Saturday. It's still in the air, but I personally don't think he'll play. I have no basis for that opinion though and I hope Bob is right.

[DBroncos4life]

Alot of great offensive lineman play into their late 30s.


I know bob but bad hammy's don't go away that fast the older you get. I sure wouldn't want a guy going if he was older and had a bad hammy. I think you are down playing how bad it is. Other KC fans said that they think its going to hold him out of the game as well. If he does play I think Denver will blitz from that side. My guess is he is only 60% right now.

[Mediator12]

If he's that hurt he won't be playing. If he plays, he'll stone Brown or Pryce just like he stones everyone else.

Or, he pulls the hammy and is out for the year. A healthy Roaf is the best OT in football. An injured Roaf, well we will see. It is entirely possible he loses mobility and explosiveness in order to contain pass rush and execute that dreaded sweep left.

[DBroncos4life]

Or, he pulls the hammy and is out for the year. A healthy Roaf is the best OT in football. An injured Roaf, well we will see. It is entirely possible he loses mobility and explosiveness in order to contain pass rush and execute that dreaded sweep left.


Thats my thought. I just don't think he will be as quick if hes not 100%. I don't think its even near there. If it was you would be hearing oh, I'm about 80 to 85% like we typically hear. He hasn't practiced in what two weeks now either. I just don't think he will go and if he does I don't think it will be near what he can do.

[baja]

Not signig Roaf when we had the chance remains the bigest non move mistake we have made in recent years. That and not returning Rodney Harrison's phone call.

[patteeu]

Or, he pulls the hammy and is out for the year. A healthy Roaf is the best OT in football. An injured Roaf, well we will see. It is entirely possible he loses mobility and explosiveness in order to contain pass rush and execute that dreaded sweep left.

Which is why I said "If he's that hurt he won't play."

[Florida_Bronco]

Not signig Roaf when we had the chance remains the bigest non move mistake we have made in recent years. That and not returning Rodney Harrison's phone call.

What's the deal with Harrision...didn't he want to come here pretty bad?

[HEAV]

"We're certainly bigger, faster than we've been," Coyer said. "Our guys are okay. They can play at a high level; they just have to know that. We're not without talent, let's put it that way."

Jezzzus this guy sounds more and more laike Shanny every year. Spewing out the same tired lines....

[Broncoman13]

Roaf at 75% is better than most at 100%. If he plays he will be effective, I don't doubt that one bit. Kind of like the Pats, until I see him/them struggle with my own eyes he/they have earned my respect!

[HEAV]

What's the deal with Harrision...didn't he want to come here pretty bad?


Yes Harrison was nearly begging to wear Orange and Blue. Shanny felt his best years where past him.

Seem to have worked out for the best for Mr. Harrison. Two rings and the respect of the NFL. Before he was a cheap shot artist and now he's a solid pro that hits hard.

[Mediator12]

Jezzzus this guy sounds more and more laike Shanny every year. Spewing out the same tired lines....

And you sound like heav, spewing out the same tired rhetoric ;D

[Mediator12]

Which is why I said "If he's that hurt he won't play."

If he's still partially hurt then the risk of injury increases twofold. I made a comment about him being completely healthy. Someone, who has not taken a snap all week is not completely healthy. Plus, tweaked Hamstrings are the worst in low oxygen environment's like Denver. Look at Nate Jackson's long recovery from a pulled hammy.

[Mediator12]

Not signig Roaf when we had the chance remains the bigest non move mistake we have made in recent years. That and not returning Rodney Harrison's phone call.

Those WERE personnel blunders Extraordinaire :hitself:

[TheReverend]

Or, he pulls the hammy and is out for the year. A healthy Roaf is the best OT in football. An injured Roaf, well we will see. It is entirely possible he loses mobility and explosiveness in order to contain pass rush and execute that dreaded sweep left.

I must've time-warped back to 2000. What happened to Pace, Jones and... well I'd say Ogden but he's sucked a fat one so far this year.

[TheReverend]

Those WERE personnel blunders Extraordinaire :hitself:

Dont you think we made up for it by signing EVERY FA with talent this off-season?

[Mediator12]

I must've time-warped back to 2000. What happened to Pace, Jones and... well I'd say Ogden but he's sucked a fat one so far this year.

Pace has also not been great for over a year or so and Jones is the only one that is close. Roaf has a bunch of help on that OL and that allows him to just flat out execute every play almost perfectly.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I must've time-warped back to 2000. What happened to Pace, Jones and... well I'd say Ogden but he's sucked a fat one so far this year.

Roaf is the only one among those guys that shuts down Dwight Freeney like he's not even there.

[Mediator12]

Dont you think we made up for it by signing EVERY FA with talent this off-season?

Uhhh, NO! Chris Truelove and co. have to be admired for their resourcefulness, but Sundquist still sucks ugh!~

[Mediator12]

Roaf is the only one among those guys that shuts down Dwight Freeney like he's not even there.

Do not forget Matt Lepsis :strong: He has faced Freeney five times in the last three seasons without a sack given up ;D

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Whitlock pretty much nailed why Roaf is the best LT in the game today with this piece:

No one can touch Roaf

JASON WHITLOCK

RIVER FALLS, Wis. — In the history of the Kansas City Chiefs, Willie Roaf might be the franchise’s most dominant player.

No disrespect to Bobby Bell, Buck Buchanan, Willie Lanier or Len Dawson, but when Roaf retires, he’ll be the lone Chief who can claim he was the greatest ever to play the position.

I’m excluding kickers, and therefore Jan Stenerud, from the debate. Also, Joe Montana wasn’t a dominant player when he rented a Chiefs uniform for two years, so he doesn’t count.

It’s my opinion that if a poll were taken of Hall of Fame voters, Lawrence Taylor (outside linebacker), Dick Butkus (middle linebacker) and Mean Joe Greene (defensive tackle) would be named the most dominant players at the positions manned by Bell, Lanier and Buchanan.

At left tackle, Cincinnati’s Anthony Muñoz would be tabbed.

But Kansas City’s very own William Layout Roaf is challenging Muñoz’s throne.

Roaf, in my opinion, is better than Muñoz. All Willie lacks is the hype. The nine seasons he spent toiling in New Orleans prevented him from getting hyped by John Madden and all the other TV talking heads. Willie has played and started in 179 regular-season games, but he’s only participated in three playoff contests. He’s played on bad teams and hasn’t spent a lot of time on “Monday Night Football” or the big Sunday afternoon games.

Willie is a legend among NFL players, and a relative mystery to NFL fans.

“He’s respected around the league,” former Chief Rich Baldinger told me at practice Wednesday afternoon. “The players know.”

What do the players know?

“You don’t stand a chance against Willie on the run,” said Chiefs tight end Jason Dunn.

Yes, Roaf, a 10-time Pro Bowler, is a gifted pass protector. He plays left tackle; you have to pass block at a high level to play that position for 11 years. What puts Roaf on the same level as Muñoz is that Roaf is a devastating, punishing run blocker.

“I knew when I played against Muñoz I was going to have to take a week off because I knew it was going to be a battle that week,” said Chiefs defensive-line coach Carl Hairston, who played defensive end against Muñoz. “He played the game very physical. Physical-wise (Muñoz and Roaf) are about the same. I think athletically Willie might have an edge on Muñoz.”

Despite his ugly gimp to the line of scrimmage, despite a belly that reveals every pot of gumbo Roaf ever ate, Big Willie is extremely light on his feet and runs like an overweight deer.

“Willie is probably the best pulling tackle in football,” Hairston said. “You never saw Muñoz pull much. No way. Matter of fact, I don’t think he could have.”

Roaf was selected to the NFL’s 1990s all-decade team. His play hasn’t slipped in the new millennium. The TV broadcasters fall in love with a new left tackle every two or three years. A few years ago Jacksonville’s Tony Boselli was the next Anthony Muñoz. In recent years, Baltimore’s Jonathan Ogden was the new guy.

Boselli, of course, flamed out. Enhanced by years of weightlifting, Boselli could never recover from injuries. Ogden is an excellent player, but everyone saw Indianapolis defensive end Dwight Freeney put a clown suit on a banged-up Ogden. Roaf swallows Freeney when the Chiefs play Indy and picks his teeth with the rest of Indy’s defenders. Boselli and Ogden, USC and UCLA alums, were hyped as future Hall of Famers when they entered the league. Roaf was a right tackle from little Louisiana Tech when the Saints plucked him in the first round of the 1993 draft.

Roaf didn’t want to talk about his legacy on Wednesday.

“Man, I’m still playing,” said Roaf, who is entering his fourth season as a Chief. “I’m just trying to get ready for this season. It’s an honor for people to even mention me with a guy like Muñoz.”

Muñoz played on two Cincinnati teams that advanced to the Super Bowl. He played on 11 straight Pro Bowl teams. If the Chiefs make a Super Bowl run, the TV broadcasters will start comparing Roaf to Muñoz, and they’ll be surprised to learn that Roaf just might be better.

“This guy is probably the most explosive big man to play this game,” said Chiefs coach Dick Vermeil. “Performance-wise I don’t think there’s a coach that’s ever coached against (Roaf) that doesn’t put him in that category (with Muñoz).

“He won’t need any help getting where he’s going.”

Vermeil was referring to the Hall of Fame.

[watermock]

Not signig Roaf when we had the chance remains the bigest non move mistake we have made in recent years. That and not returning Rodney Harrison's phone call.

You got that right. Both were major ****ups.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Roaf update:

ROAF REPORT

After a day on the treadmill and elliptical machine, tackle Willie Roaf felt so good he made a request: He wants to try to practice today.

Roaf, a 10-time Pro Bowl tackle, was upgraded Friday to a shade better than 50-50 for Monday night’s game at Denver. He’s been out because of a hamstring strain since the first half of the Sept. 11 season opener against the Jets, a game in which Roaf threw several devastating blocks.

Although coach Dick Vermeil said backup Jordan Black has done a respectable job filling in for Roaf, it’s obvious the Chiefs are eager to get Roaf back for the Denver game. The Chiefs have yet to win at Invesco Field under Vermeil.

Roaf moved around gingerly in the locker room Friday, but that’s the way he’s walked for most of his career in Kansas City. He still managed to protect quarterback Trent Green for 49 straight starts before sitting last weekend at Oakland.

“I don’t know if it’s going to be a game-time decision or if they will make that decision prior to us even traveling out there,” Green said.

“I am just excited he is up on his feet and moving around, so there is a chance.”

[watermock]

Great. He can walk now. Give me a break.

Me and Taco screamed at the top of our lungs to sign the guy. He even wanted to play here because he has kids in Denver, or did.

Rediculous.

[patteeu]

Great. He can walk now. Give me a break.

Me and Taco screamed at the top of our lungs to sign the guy. He even wanted to play here because he has kids in Denver, or did.

Rediculous.

Now he hates Denver just like all good Chiefs do. I hear he even told his kids he'd disown them if they didn't move out. j/k :)

[OrangeShadow]

I coudlnt even imagin if we had signed him and harrison

[-Slap-]

Whitlock pretty much nailed why Roaf is the best LT in the game today with this piece:

No one can touch Roaf

JASON WHITLOCK

RIVER FALLS, Wis. — In the history of the Kansas City Chiefs, Willie Roaf might be the franchise’s most dominant player.

No disrespect to Bobby Bell, Buck Buchanan, Willie Lanier or Len Dawson, but when Roaf retires, he’ll be the lone Chief who can claim he was the greatest ever to play the position.

I’m excluding kickers, and therefore Jan Stenerud, from the debate. Also, Joe Montana wasn’t a dominant player when he rented a Chiefs uniform for two years, so he doesn’t count.

It’s my opinion that if a poll were taken of Hall of Fame voters, Lawrence Taylor (outside linebacker), Dick Butkus (middle linebacker) and Mean Joe Greene (defensive tackle) would be named the most dominant players at the positions manned by Bell, Lanier and Buchanan.

At left tackle, Cincinnati’s Anthony Muñoz would be tabbed.

But Kansas City’s very own William Layout Roaf is challenging Muñoz’s throne.

Roaf, in my opinion, is better than Muñoz. All Willie lacks is the hype. The nine seasons he spent toiling in New Orleans prevented him from getting hyped by John Madden and all the other TV talking heads. Willie has played and started in 179 regular-season games, but he’s only participated in three playoff contests. He’s played on bad teams and hasn’t spent a lot of time on “Monday Night Football” or the big Sunday afternoon games.

Willie is a legend among NFL players, and a relative mystery to NFL fans.

“He’s respected around the league,” former Chief Rich Baldinger told me at practice Wednesday afternoon. “The players know.”

What do the players know?

“You don’t stand a chance against Willie on the run,” said Chiefs tight end Jason Dunn.

Yes, Roaf, a 10-time Pro Bowler, is a gifted pass protector. He plays left tackle; you have to pass block at a high level to play that position for 11 years. What puts Roaf on the same level as Muñoz is that Roaf is a devastating, punishing run blocker.

“I knew when I played against Muñoz I was going to have to take a week off because I knew it was going to be a battle that week,” said Chiefs defensive-line coach Carl Hairston, who played defensive end against Muñoz. “He played the game very physical. Physical-wise (Muñoz and Roaf) are about the same. I think athletically Willie might have an edge on Muñoz.”

Despite his ugly gimp to the line of scrimmage, despite a belly that reveals every pot of gumbo Roaf ever ate, Big Willie is extremely light on his feet and runs like an overweight deer.

“Willie is probably the best pulling tackle in football,” Hairston said. “You never saw Muñoz pull much. No way. Matter of fact, I don’t think he could have.”

Roaf was selected to the NFL’s 1990s all-decade team. His play hasn’t slipped in the new millennium. The TV broadcasters fall in love with a new left tackle every two or three years. A few years ago Jacksonville’s Tony Boselli was the next Anthony Muñoz. In recent years, Baltimore’s Jonathan Ogden was the new guy.

Boselli, of course, flamed out. Enhanced by years of weightlifting, Boselli could never recover from injuries. Ogden is an excellent player, but everyone saw Indianapolis defensive end Dwight Freeney put a clown suit on a banged-up Ogden. Roaf swallows Freeney when the Chiefs play Indy and picks his teeth with the rest of Indy’s defenders. Boselli and Ogden, USC and UCLA alums, were hyped as future Hall of Famers when they entered the league. Roaf was a right tackle from little Louisiana Tech when the Saints plucked him in the first round of the 1993 draft.

Roaf didn’t want to talk about his legacy on Wednesday.

“Man, I’m still playing,” said Roaf, who is entering his fourth season as a Chief. “I’m just trying to get ready for this season. It’s an honor for people to even mention me with a guy like Muñoz.”

Muñoz played on two Cincinnati teams that advanced to the Super Bowl. He played on 11 straight Pro Bowl teams. If the Chiefs make a Super Bowl run, the TV broadcasters will start comparing Roaf to Muñoz, and they’ll be surprised to learn that Roaf just might be better.

“This guy is probably the most explosive big man to play this game,” said Chiefs coach Dick Vermeil. “Performance-wise I don’t think there’s a coach that’s ever coached against (Roaf) that doesn’t put him in that category (with Muñoz).

“He won’t need any help getting where he’s going.”

Vermeil was referring to the Hall of Fame.

Give me a break. You try and validate your case for Roaf by quoting an article where Whitless calls him better than Anthony Munoz? Way to shoot off your own foot.

[baja]

Great. He can walk now. Give me a break.

Me and Taco screamed at the top of our lungs to sign the guy. He even wanted to play here because he has kids in Denver, or did.

Rediculous.

"ME AND TACO", LIKE YOU WERE THE ONLY ONES.............

[-Slap-]

"ME AND TACO", LIKE YOU WERE THE ONLY ONES.............
The only surprise is that he included Taco.

[OrangeShadow]

Baha i just spent 5 mintues on this page,not beacause of ur post bur avy

[baja]

Baha i just spent 5 mintues on this page,not beacause of ur post bur avy

You should see the xxx rated version of that avartar...


Yikes!

[watermock]

I apologize, there were alot of people that wanted Roaf signed, Taco and I were especially vocal about it. Doesn't matter much now, he's 35 and it was 5 years ago.

[Florida_Bronco]

You should see the xxx rated version of that avartar...


Yikes!

Send it to me in a PM! hahaha

[Ballhawk]

Alot of great offensive lineman play into their late 30s.

Very few can, and it has nothing to do with how skilled they were in their prime.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Give me a break. You try and validate your case for Roaf by quoting an article where Whitless calls him better than Anthony Munoz? Way to shoot off your own foot.

Sorry, Whitlock is right, and Hairston is clearly backing him up in that article.
You think anyone here knows better than someone that played against Munoz?