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Atlas
09-22-2005, 03:31 AM
I thought this was a pretty interesting article. Seems kickers always have something cool to say.

SoCals link:http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_3050168

broncos notes
A little string music for FG success
By Mike Klis
Denver Post Staff Writer



Jan Stenerud didn't see much of the Broncos' game Sunday, not with the Colorado Springs air so warm and fewer than 100 days of golfing until Christmas.

The only kicker inducted into the NFL Hall of Fame, Stenerud did get home in time to watch Broncos kicker Jason Elam attempt his second 53-yard field goal against the San Diego Chargers. Once Stenerud saw how the football laces were placed at the 3 o'clock position, he pretty well knew what would happen.

"I thought as he kicked it, 'That's going to be tough,"' Stenerud said. "When the strings are to the right, the ball will stay to the right."

Sure enough, the kick sailed to the right.

"I can recall in the 19 years I was kicking, I struggled with that, too, but you could never say anything," Stenerud said. "When the kick goes wide, you've got to take the blame, and that's the way it goes.

"And regardless of where the strings are, it's your job to make it."

For his part, Elam never suggested holder Todd Sauerbrun didn't spin the laces correctly, instead taking blame not only for missing his second 53-yarder to the right, but his first 53-yarder to the left.

It wasn't until the conversation turned to the 41-yard, game-winning field goal he made with five seconds left that Elam made sure to mention Sauerbrun and long snapper Mike Leach.

But wait, there's a kicker to the strings story. The most famous missed field goal in NFL history? Stenerud says Scott Norwood never had a chance when his lose-or-win, 47-yarder in the 1991 Super Bowl stayed right.

"The strings were at 5 o'clock," Stenerud said, "the worst spot they could have been to make the kick. You can't make it from that far with the strings that way. I never liked all the trouble he received. I didn't think it was fair."


Jake: "Hang with us"
Oddly enough, Broncos fans booed the loudest Sunday after two passes by quarterback Jake Plummer were completed on third down. One went to Rod Smith for 9 yards when the Broncos needed 12; the other was caught by Smith for 3 yards when they needed 14.

Were the fans booing the play calls, or the guy most responsible for executing them? Plummer, hardly naive in his ninth NFL season, thinks he knows the answer.

"I'm the guy that's throwing the ball," he said. "If it's third-and-20 and I check down to Rod because there's nothing downfield, the fans usually boo

- not realizing they'd boo harder if I tried to force it down there and threw an interception.
"It's not the first time I've been booed. It really has no effect on me, but you'd really like to have your fans hang with us."

Atlas
09-22-2005, 03:33 AM
Jake: "Hang with us"
Oddly enough, Broncos fans booed the loudest Sunday after two passes by quarterback Jake Plummer were completed on third down. One went to Rod Smith for 9 yards when the Broncos needed 12; the other was caught by Smith for 3 yards when they needed 14.

Were the fans booing the play calls, or the guy most responsible for executing them? Plummer, hardly naive in his ninth NFL season, thinks he knows the answer.

"I'm the guy that's throwing the ball," he said. "If it's third-and-20 and I check down to Rod because there's nothing downfield, the fans usually boo

- not realizing they'd boo harder if I tried to force it down there and threw an interception.
"It's not the first time I've been booed. It really has no effect on me, but you'd really like to have your fans hang with us."

I have never booed at a game. I have been at Mile High when Elway was booed. I thought it was disgraceful....... Different strokes for different folks I guess.

Florida_Bronco
09-22-2005, 05:34 AM
I thought this was a pretty interesting article. Seems kickers always have something cool to say.

SoCals link:http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_3050168

broncos notes
A little string music for FG success
By Mike Klis
Denver Post Staff Writer



Jan Stenerud didn't see much of the Broncos' game Sunday, not with the Colorado Springs air so warm and fewer than 100 days of golfing until Christmas.

The only kicker inducted into the NFL Hall of Fame, Stenerud did get home in time to watch Broncos kicker Jason Elam attempt his second 53-yard field goal against the San Diego Chargers. Once Stenerud saw how the football laces were placed at the 3 o'clock position, he pretty well knew what would happen.

"I thought as he kicked it, 'That's going to be tough,"' Stenerud said. "When the strings are to the right, the ball will stay to the right."

Sure enough, the kick sailed to the right.

"I can recall in the 19 years I was kicking, I struggled with that, too, but you could never say anything," Stenerud said. "When the kick goes wide, you've got to take the blame, and that's the way it goes.

"And regardless of where the strings are, it's your job to make it."

For his part, Elam never suggested holder Todd Sauerbrun didn't spin the laces correctly, instead taking blame not only for missing his second 53-yarder to the right, but his first 53-yarder to the left.

It wasn't until the conversation turned to the 41-yard, game-winning field goal he made with five seconds left that Elam made sure to mention Sauerbrun and long snapper Mike Leach.

But wait, there's a kicker to the strings story. The most famous missed field goal in NFL history? Stenerud says Scott Norwood never had a chance when his lose-or-win, 47-yarder in the 1991 Super Bowl stayed right.

"The strings were at 5 o'clock," Stenerud said, "the worst spot they could have been to make the kick. You can't make it from that far with the strings that way. I never liked all the trouble he received. I didn't think it was fair."


Jake: "Hang with us"
Oddly enough, Broncos fans booed the loudest Sunday after two passes by quarterback Jake Plummer were completed on third down. One went to Rod Smith for 9 yards when the Broncos needed 12; the other was caught by Smith for 3 yards when they needed 14.

Were the fans booing the play calls, or the guy most responsible for executing them? Plummer, hardly naive in his ninth NFL season, thinks he knows the answer.

"I'm the guy that's throwing the ball," he said. "If it's third-and-20 and I check down to Rod because there's nothing downfield, the fans usually boo

- not realizing they'd boo harder if I tried to force it down there and threw an interception.
"It's not the first time I've been booed. It really has no effect on me, but you'd really like to have your fans hang with us."

Good post Atlas.

I'll tell ya, there is still no other kicker in the NFL I'd take over Elam, even at this stage of his career....yes that means Vinateri too.

-Slap-
09-22-2005, 05:46 AM
I have never booed at a game. I have been at Mile High when Elway was booed. I thought it was disgraceful....... Different strokes for different folks I guess.
I won't boo the Broncos. The only time I've ever booed the home team was over some brutal cheap shots I saw from rivetheads wearing Las Vegas Thunder sweaters. Some IHL crowds eat it up if you take a run at the other team's goalie when you're losing, but I find it deplorable.

Mile High Shack
09-22-2005, 05:56 AM
and that's why I said Elam's kicks went left then right

bendog
09-22-2005, 07:33 AM
interesting. I wondered if the snaps were goofy. Elam didn't look at all comfortable in his approach to the kick. Looked like he had a hitch in get along, so to speak. That's one of the reasons I don't buy into the "hysteria" here over "what's wrong with the offense."

Dukes
09-22-2005, 07:39 AM
"Laces Out!!" Ha!

2KBack
09-22-2005, 07:39 AM
and that's why I said Elam's kicks went left then right

I was trying to remember who pointed this out to me, good catch

bendog
09-22-2005, 07:45 AM
I never even booed Saban's teams. I booed the refs alot though. I never booed cool lou either, but that was getting close. I recall how his house would be continually tp'ed towards the end. Guy got bum deal as he left the broncos immensely better than he found them. I sorta view Lou like Shotty, a coach who just never had the game managment or personnel managment to get over the top, but a very well organized and disciplined guy who knew how football is played. Of course Saban never tried to take out the Duke. Actually, I think that would be beneath Cool Lou to do anything like that. Hard hits, he loved. tweaking a guy's game leg, sure. But I also think he had an eithical view of the game that he didn't cross.

elsid13
09-22-2005, 07:46 AM
The second kick laces were wrong angle (to the right), I know that CBS had great TV angle on kick. Was Saurbraun a holder for the Panters???

Billy Clyde Puckett
09-22-2005, 07:54 AM
It is probably more important for him to concentrate on learning the QB position, but it would be fun to have BVP as the holder. A constant threat of a fake.

Rascal
09-22-2005, 08:07 AM
and that's why I said Elam's kicks went left then right

Yeap.

Both of us caught it while watching the game. Saurebutt needs to learn how to hold damnit!!!

bendog
09-22-2005, 08:25 AM
whoa, bvp or sauerpuss as a holder. I guess BVP, but has he ever held?

Rich Karlis
09-22-2005, 08:32 AM
IMO I think the older Elam gets the more he will lose some distance. Maybe he is trying to reall kill the ball on the 50+ yarders. I kicked throughout high school and much like golf when your really try to destroy the ball the accuracy has a mind of its own.

Nuggets4
09-22-2005, 08:41 AM
"Laces Out!!" Ha!

My best friend and I kept screaming "LACES OUT DAN! LACES OUT!!!"

I'm not worried about Elam. It's the rest of the offense.