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epicSocialism4tw
09-20-2005, 09:38 PM
Boy...this is scary. Regardless of what we are dealing with stateside, this is something that you just cant ignore. This is a direct political maneuver in opposition to the United States.

Iran 'may share nuclear know-how'
UNITED NATIONS (CNN) -- Iran's president has told Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan that his country is ready and willing to give peaceful nuclear technology to Islamic states, the state-run Islamic Republic News Agency reported Thursday.

"The Islamic Republic never seeks weapons of mass destruction and with respect to the needs of Islamic countries, we are ready to transfer nuclear know-how to these countries," said Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in a meeting with Erdogan during this week's U.N. World Summit.

The United States, which has no direct ties with Iran, and the European Union fear the Islamic Republic will use its nuclear program to create weapons. The EU has been negotiating with Iran, but no agreement has been reached.

Iran insists that its program has nothing to do with weaponry and instead reflects its awareness of decreasing oil reserves.

"We have firmly decided to use this technology for peaceful purposes within the framework of the Non-Proliferation Treaty, international regulations and cooperation with the International Atomic Energy Agency," Ahmadinejad said.

The president again criticized nations, such as the United States, that have large nuclear weapons arsenals but oppose Iran's program.

Ahmadinejad and Erdogan discussed strengthening economic ties between Turkey and Iran, which the Iranian president said he prefers to direct contact with Europe. Erdogan invited the Iranian president to pay an official visit to Ankara, IRNA said.

Rigs11
09-20-2005, 09:46 PM
What pisses me off is when US diplomats walk out when the president of Iran is making a speech at the UN. Total disrespect and then the Bush admin expects cooperation from Iran. What a joke.

DBruleU
09-20-2005, 09:51 PM
I dunno, maybe the fact he was/is a terrorist and held our own countrymen hostage, threating to kill them has something to do with it. But that never matters to you libs though. Treat him with the respect he showed us you say, leave them alone you say, they have feelings too you say, they are just misunderstood you say, Gitmo is wrong you say. Screw him, he doesnt like us, and he showed that with that he did in the 70's.

epicSocialism4tw
09-20-2005, 09:56 PM
What pisses me off is when US diplomats walk out when the president of Iran is making a speech at the UN. Total disrespect and then the Bush admin expects cooperation from Iran. What a joke.


When you are the world power, and the US is, you make the demands. Frankly, if Iran doesnt respect the US's power and decides to slap the world power in the face by stating that it is joining the terrorists fight, then they deserve to be walked out on. That is a terrible political move for Iran unless they are joining ranks with the jihadists, which they obviously are.

Rigs11
09-20-2005, 10:05 PM
When you are the world power, and the US is, you make the demands. Frankly, if Iran doesnt respect the US's power and decides to slap the world power in the face by stating that it is joining the terrorists fight, then they deserve to be walked out on. That is a terrible political move for Iran unless they are joining ranks with the jihadists, which they obviously are.

They only stated that they would help other countries use nuclear power for peaceful purposes.Where did they say they were joining the terrorists? Also who's to say that Iran is building nuclear weapons? Does the US have any evidence of this? Or is it speculation? As for the US being the world power I think that many countries are fed up with the US making demands for others to stop their nuclear ambitions and yet the US drops out of treaties such as the nuclear proliferation treaty. This "do as I say, not as I do mentality" is what is going to start a WW III.

Rigs11
09-20-2005, 10:09 PM
I dunno, maybe the fact he was/is a terrorist and held our own countrymen hostage, threating to kill them has something to do with it. But that never matters to you libs though. Treat him with the respect he showed us you say, leave them alone you say, they have feelings too you say, they are just misunderstood you say, Gitmo is wrong you say. Screw him, he doesnt like us, and he showed that with that he did in the 70's.

One guy said he recognized him as a former captor and you get all gung ho?Iran is not going to cooperate with the US if we keep threatening them and have our diplomats walk out at the UN. What does this say to the other countrie's diplomats that are there?

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-20-2005, 10:29 PM
One guy said he recognized him as a former captor and you get all gung ho?Iran is not going to cooperate with the US if we keep threatening them and have our diplomats walk out at the UN. What does this say to the other countrie's diplomats that are there?

The unfortunate thing is that we had a chance to effect positive political change in Iran before the smirking pinhead stole the WH and started thumping his chest with all the "axis of evil" chickenhawkery.

The majority of young people in Iran admired America and felt positively about our country before the SCOTUS forced The Abomination upon us.

epicSocialism4tw
09-20-2005, 11:38 PM
They only stated that they would help other countries use nuclear power for peaceful purposes.Where did they say they were joining the terrorists? Also who's to say that Iran is building nuclear weapons? Does the US have any evidence of this? Or is it speculation? As for the US being the world power I think that many countries are fed up with the US making demands for others to stop their nuclear ambitions and yet the US drops out of treaties such as the nuclear proliferation treaty. This "do as I say, not as I do mentality" is what is going to start a WW III.


You might want to re-read the article, and then read between the lines a little. Iran wants to develop and share nukes (information). Iran is unstable and is not a peaceful country. The other middle eastern countries outside of Israel are unstable. Ergo...Iran has basically said to the world that it is trying to prop up middle eastern (Islamic) power by providing these Islamic countries with the information to develop nuclear weapons. That doesnt bother you? Why do you live in America?

Bronco_Beerslug
09-21-2005, 04:54 AM
You might want to re-read the article, and then read between the lines a little. Iran wants to develop and share nukes (information). Iran is unstable and is not a peaceful country. The other middle eastern countries outside of Israel are unstable. Ergo...Iran has basically said to the world that it is trying to prop up middle eastern (Islamic) power by providing these Islamic countries with the information to develop nuclear weapons. That doesnt bother you? Why do you live in America?

It's called posturing. I suppose you want to attack and invade them? They and anyone else who would dare use nuclear energy?

Hotrod
09-21-2005, 07:27 AM
It's called posturing. I suppose you want to attack and invade them? They and anyone else who would dare use nuclear energy?

I think the proper response to Iran by Bush in this case would be to invade Chili ;) (that was for my leftist friends ;D)

epicSocialism4tw
09-21-2005, 09:02 AM
It's called posturing. I suppose you want to attack and invade them? They and anyone else who would dare use nuclear energy?

It is posturing...but this posturing is serious. We are talking about a verbal threat directed at you and I. Providing nuclear weapon information to countries like Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia and Jordan is extremely dangerous for us stateside.

Bronco_Beerslug
09-21-2005, 09:10 AM
It is posturing...but this posturing is serious. We are talking about a verbal threat directed at you and I. Providing nuclear weapon information to countries like Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia and Jordan is extremely dangerous for us stateside.
Thinks it's any more serious than not securing our borders and ports?

epicSocialism4tw
09-21-2005, 09:17 AM
Thinks it's any more serious than not securing our borders and ports?


I think that that is extremely important as well. That's not really what the thread is about though.

Rigs11
09-21-2005, 10:59 AM
You might want to re-read the article, and then read between the lines a little. Iran wants to develop and share nukes (information). Iran is unstable and is not a peaceful country. The other middle eastern countries outside of Israel are unstable. Ergo...Iran has basically said to the world that it is trying to prop up middle eastern (Islamic) power by providing these Islamic countries with the information to develop nuclear weapons. That doesnt bother you? Why do you live in America?
You're assuming that Iran is not a peaceful country and that they want to share info on actually building nukes. Assumption is the mother of all fackups as we learned in Iraq and the whole WMD fiasco.I live in America because I love this country and yet I will continue to speak out against a goverment that bullies countries around and then expect their cooperation.

epicSocialism4tw
09-21-2005, 11:07 AM
You're assuming that Iran is not a peaceful country and that they want to share info on actually building nukes. Assumption is the mother of all fackups as we learned in Iraq and the whole WMD fiasco.I live in America because I love this country and yet I will continue to speak out against a goverment that bullies countries around and then expect their cooperation.


You are not very astute if you dont realize that Iran is making a threat towards us with this. How old are you, Rigs11?

ClevelandBronco2
09-21-2005, 11:09 AM
They only stated that they would help other countries use nuclear power for peaceful purposes.Where did they say they were joining the terrorists? Also who's to say that Iran is building nuclear weapons? Does the US have any evidence of this? Or is it speculation? As for the US being the world power I think that many countries are fed up with the US making demands for others to stop their nuclear ambitions and yet the US drops out of treaties such as the nuclear proliferation treaty. This "do as I say, not as I do mentality" is what is going to start a WW III.

World War III ended with the collapse of the Soviet Union, the reunification of Germany and the birth of democracies in Eastern Europe. This is World War IV. It's already been on for some time and we didn't start it. Our government simply didn't recognize that it had been invited to a war between the more radical side of the Muslim world and Western civilization until Sept. 11, 2001. A large fraction of our citizens and the politicians who dance to their tune still just want to shut their eyes and hope it all goes away. That attitude is the one that will result in a good many of us getting killed.

epicSocialism4tw
09-21-2005, 11:14 AM
World War III ended with the collapse of the Soviet Union, the reunification of Germany and the birth of democracies in Eastern Europe. This is World War IV. It's already been on for some time and we didn't start it. Our government simply didn't recognize that it had been invited to a war between the more radical side of the Muslim world and Western civilization until Sept. 11, 2001. A large fraction of our citizens and the politicians who dance to their tune still just want to shut their eyes and hope it all goes away. That attitude is the one that will result in a good many of us getting killed.


Its not going away, so eventually we will have to deal with it. This really sucks.

Rigs11
09-21-2005, 11:16 AM
You are not very astute if you dont realize that Iran is making a threat towards us with this. How old are you, Rigs11?

31. Why does it matter? I've still to hear any credible reason besides the US goverment "believing" that Iran is seeking to make nukes. Bush threatened Iran when he first came into power by branding it as part of the axis of evil.Then he has stated that all options are on the table including military action and sanctions. Do you honestly think that Iran is going to follow the same fate as Iraq and wait to be invaded? It's silly.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-21-2005, 04:41 PM
31. Why does it matter? I've still to hear any credible reason besides the US goverment "believing" that Iran is seeking to make nukes. Bush threatened Iran when he first came into power by branding it as part of the axis of evil.Then he has stated that all options are on the table including military action and sanctions. Do you honestly think that Iran is going to follow the same fate as Iraq and wait to be invaded? It's silly.

Bush has really sold the members of the lunatic right-wing fringe who constitute his base on the whole doctrine of pre-emptive war, hasn't he?

All the frat boy has to do is say, in a scary voice "so-and-so might want to attack us, or might be a threat to us, and these people fall right in line behind the PNAC empire builders.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-21-2005, 04:45 PM
I think the proper response to Iran by Bush in this case would be to invade Chili ;) (that was for my leftist friends ;D)

ROFL!

TheDave
09-21-2005, 05:02 PM
I think the proper response to Iran by Bush in this case would be to invade Chili ;) (that was for my leftist friends ;D)


You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Hotrod again.


Too much damn rep whoring!!!

Bronco_Beerslug
09-21-2005, 05:20 PM
I think that that is extremely important as well. That's not really what the thread is about though.
Well if you think like I do, that letting terrorists bring suitcase nukes in this country is more important than any posturing by Iran right now then I guess this story isn't quite as critical.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-21-2005, 05:28 PM
Well if you think like I do, that letting terrorists bring suitcase nukes in this country is more important than any posturing by Iran right now then I guess this story is quite as critical.

One thing's for sure:

We definitely need a leader who isn't sitting on his ass reading "My Pet Goat" or strumming on a guitar, waiting for it to happen.