ESPN Power Rankings: New No. 1

[bloodsunday]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/powerranking?season=2005&week=3

2005 Power Rankings: Week 3
RK (LW) TEAM REC COMMENT
1 (2) Colts 2-0-0 It has to be a huge boost to the Colts to know they can win a game when Peyton Manning only throws for only 122 yards.

2 (3) Steelers 2-0-0 So, Ben Roethlisberger is going to struggle in his second year, huh? Well, a 153.6 passer rating after two games sure doesn't look like a struggle.

3 (5) Eagles 1-1-0 One big game and everything is all smiles and high-fives again between McNabb and Owens in Philly.

4 (1) Patriots 1-1-0 Just a sloppy game from the Patriots. Lots of penalties, poor special teams play, etc. -- not what you'd expect from the defending champs.

5 (6) Chiefs 2-0-0 Two weeks into the season, they've failed to reach the 30-point mark ... and yet they're undefeated.

6 (4) Falcons 1-1-0 Matt Schaub might have potential, but it goes without saying that the Falcons need Michael Vick healthy and in the lineup.

7 (12) Bengals 2-0-0 After starting 1-4 in each of Marvin Lewis' first two seasons in Cincinnati, getting off to a fast start this year is huge.

8 (14) Panthers 1-1-0 Panthers looked like they had a little chip on their shoulders Sunday and it worked, resulting in a big win over the Patriots.

9 (7) Jaguars 1-1-0 Getting out of bed Monday morning couldn't have been any fun at all for Byron Leftwich.

10 (19) Buccaneers 2-0-0 Looks like Jon Gruden has found the right running back for his offense.

11 (17) Giants 2-0-0 Anyone who got Tiki Barber in their fantasy draft after 10 or 12 other RBs had already been picked got a steal.

12 (18) Jets 1-1-0 Chad Pennington still doesn't look right, but the Jets still pulled out a needed win, and that's what is really important.

13 (9) Bills 1-1-0 It'll be interesting to see how the QB situation unfolds in Buffalo. J.P. Losman is the QB of the future, but will they switch to Kelly Holcomb if he gives them a better chance to win now?

14 (20) Broncos 1-1-0 Figures that if any team could get something out of Ron Dayne it would be the Broncos.

15 (22) Seahawks 1-1-0 Seahawks are clearly a better team when Shaun Alexander is the focal point of the offense.

16 (26) Redskins 2-0-0 So, apparently there was a pretty good reason the Redskins wanted to trade for Santana Moss.

17 (8) Cowboys 1-1-0 Cowboys players and coaches must feel like they got punched in the gut.

18 (10) Saints 1-1-0 The Giants were just the better team, but the Saints understandably looked worn down Monday night.

19 (11) Chargers 0-2-0 He's still finding the end zone, but the Chargers need to get LaDainian Tomlinson (124 yards rushing, just 3.3 yards per carry, and no receptions) going at full speed.

20 (21) Rams 1-1-0 It wasn't pretty, but any win on the road is a big deal for the Rams.

21 (31) Bears 1-1-0 The Bears clearly have the best defense in the NFC North, which could be enough to get them to playoffs.

22 (30) Titans 1-1-0 Talk about a dominating D. The Titans held Baltimore to 182 total yards and no first downs in the opening half.

23 (23) Dolphins 1-1-0 The Dolphins aren't going to contend for a playoff spot, but they're clearly going to be more competitive than a lot of people thought.

24 (16) Lions 1-1-0 Jeff Garcia's hurt, but that hasn't stopped some Lions fans from calling for Joey Harrington's backup. Only problem is that backup is rookie Dan Orlovsky.

25 (15) Ravens 0-2-0 The Ravens aren't going to win many games when Jamal Lewis rushes for nine yards on 10 carries.

26 (24) Raiders 0-2-0 OK, so Moss was robbed of a TD, but they had numerous opportunities to win in Randy's home debut.

27 (13) Vikings 0-2-0 Obviously he misses Randy Moss, but that can't completely explain a QB of Daunte Culpepper's caliber throwing eight INTs in two games.

28 (32) Browns 1-1-0 The allure has worn off of road teams winning at Lambeau Field, but still an impressive first win for Romeo.

29 (27) Cardinals 0-2-0 Two winnable games have resulted in two losses. Not the start Dennis Green anticipated.

30 (25) Packers 0-2-0 With upcoming games vs. Tampa Bay, at Carolina, and vs. New Orleans, the Packers could put themselves in a hole that they can't dig out of.

31 (28) 49ers 0-2-0 Probably had no impact on Terrell Owens' play, but maybe Derrick Smith should just keep his mouth shut next time.

32 (29) Texans 0-2-0 They've already fired the offensive coordinator. Now the heat is all on the coach (Dom Capers) and the QB (David Carr).

[PatsWin2002]

The Raiders are better than 26th.

They're better than a bunch of those teams above them.

[bloodsunday]

How about them Ravens that the whole ESPN gang was sucking up to in the offseason? I was so sick of hearing how great their offseason was when they failed to address their number one need: a quarterback. It appears now that Lewis maybe washed up as well.

[bloodsunday]

The Raiders are better than 26th.

They're better than a bunch of those teams above them.
It's still too early. IMO the Broncos are too high (fortunate to have won Sunday), the Steelers are too high (who have they played?), the Chargers are too low (tough schedule), Indy is too high (there O is not their strength?), and the Chiefs might be too high (opponents looks soft)? I could make a case for just about any team being too high or too low. There just hasn't been enough football to know yet.

[rbackfactory80]

49ers won a game

[brncs_fan]

I wonder which one sits on the coaches minds in KC, that they are 2-0, or that they havn't scored 30 in a game yet.

[2KBack]

How about them Ravens that the whole ESPN gang was sucking up to in the offseason? I was so sick of hearing how great their offseason was when they failed to address their number one need: a quarterback. It appears now that Lewis maybe washed up as well.

no one fears the passing game of the Ravens, so they just stack up against Jamal Lewis. It's the same way Denver was defended in 1999 after John left.

Got the Bengals right though, even if they are beating weaker teams, they are beating them Handily.

[ludo21]

How about them Ravens that the whole ESPN gang was sucking up to in the offseason? I was so sick of hearing how great their offseason was when they failed to address their number one need: a quarterback. It appears now that Lewis maybe washed up as well.


well thats what jail does to ya i guess. Its funny that the ESPN anaylsts thought he would come outta those bars screaming for another 2k season. idiots, do they actually think all he did in there was work out and run and stay in shape??

Broncos in the middle, no surprises there......... but what i fail to see on any gameday review on our game is how awesome the D played in the 2nd half, i mean 41 total Charger yards deserves a litle credit i think.

[cmh6476]

I wonder which one sits on the coaches minds in KC, that they are 2-0, or that they havn't scored 30 in a game yet.
the only thing in their mind right now is the game-planning for denver.

[2KBack]

It's still too early. IMO the Broncos are too high (fortunate to have won Sunday), the Steelers are too high (who have they played?), the Chargers are too low (tough schedule), Indy is too high (there O is not their strength?), and the Chiefs might be too high (opponents looks soft)? I could make a case for just about any team being too high or too low. There just hasn't been enough football to know yet.


How can you say the chargers are too low due to a tough schedule, of which Denver who has been 50% of said Schedule, and then say that Denver is ranked too high

[brncs_fan]

the only thing in their mind right now is the game-planning for denver.

Isn't that part of it though?

[bloodsunday]

I wonder which one sits on the coaches minds in KC, that they are 2-0, or that they havn't scored 30 in a game yet.
Their O is plenty potent. They have been playing keep away with the ball which is why they don't need to score 30. I'm with you, I think they'll take 200 yards rushing and 35 minutes TOP every game. It's easy to play good D when your O keeps the ball the way they have. Playing both LJ and Priest might be a brilliant strategy.

That's why I'm not sold on their D just yet. It hasn't had to win a game for them and it will have to eventually to get by teams like Pittsburgh, New England, and maybe Indy.

[ZachKC]

I wonder which one sits on the coaches minds in KC, that they are 2-0, or that they havn't scored 30 in a game yet.
I bet the fact we have not needed to score 30 does. That wasn't the case last year.

[2KBack]

well thats what jail does to ya i guess. Its funny that the ESPN anaylsts thought he would come outta those bars screaming for another 2k season. idiots, do they actually think all he did in there was work out and run and stay in shape??

Broncos in the middle, no surprises there......... but what i fail to see on any gameday review on our game is how awesome the D played in the 2nd half, i mean 41 total Charger yards deserves a litle credit i think.

Didn't you hear, the Browncos make our D suck

[ZachKC]

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That's why I'm not sold on their D just yet. It hasn't had to win a game for them and it will have to eventually
Did you watch the game on Monday. The defense held the Raiders offense at the end to win that game. They had the time on the clock and the ability to drive. Last year's defense loses that game. Hicks made a nice play deflecting a screen pass on 3rd down and then on 4th down Knight and I believe Surtain defending a ball in the endzone to seal the victory.

I am not sure how this doesn't equal the defense winning a game.

It was thier job to keep Oakland out of the endzone at the end of that game. If they had failed the Chiefs would be 1-1

[bloodsunday]

How can you say the chargers are too low due to a tough schedule, of which Denver who has been 50% of said Schedule, and then say that Denver is ranked too high
Because they played at Denver. Dallas, depsite their hiccup, looks like a much improved team. Denver is always good at home. And, San Diego didn't play particularly poorly in either game, they just didn't make the plays to win. They are capable of beating (IMO):

11 (17) Giants 2-0-0
12 (18) Jets 1-1-0
13 (9) Bills 1-1-0
14 (20) Broncos 1-1-0
15 (22) Seahawks 1-1-0
16 (26) Redskins 2-0-0
18 (10) Saints

But as I said, its too early to know for sure. That's just what I think based on their schedule and the flow of the given games.

[cmh6476]

Isn't that part of it though?
Not really. The stats against us are sort of bloated because Penny was playing catch up all game, and we adjusted the defense a little bit because we had such a cushion.

The only thing that matters now is putting pressure on Plummer, not giving up big plays, and stopping the run. We do that and we win. No reason to dwell on the past two games. You won, now it's time to move on.

[BMF Bronco]

I think the Steelers need to be at number one, they are looking dominant! I guess the real test comes on Sunday, they play the Patties.

[bloodsunday]

Did you watch the game on Monday. The defense held the Raiders offense at the end to win that game. They had the time on the clock and the ability to drive. Last year's defense loses that game. Hicks made a nice play deflecting a screen pass on 3rd down and then on 4th down Knight and I believe Surtain defending a ball in the endzone to seal the victory.

I am not sure how this doesn't equal the defense winning a game.

It was thier job to keep Oakland out of the endzone at the end of that game. If they had failed the Chiefs would be 1-1
I did watch the game. My point is that its easier to play good Defense (especially at the end of the game) when your offense holds the ball for 35 minutes (34:34). First of all, it keeps your defenders fresh. Secondly, it keeps the opposing offense from gaining any rhythm.

I'm not dissing on your D per se. The Chiefs have a good balance of O and D going right now and that's a good thing for Chiefs fans. I am just saying that when a team like Pittsburgh stops your run and starts pounding the ball at you 40 times a game, can you hold up? I'm not sure and we just don't have any evidence to know one way or the other yet.

[Garcia Bronco]

49ers won a game


Yep...that debunks the whole list and any creditability it might have had. Sorry Espin strikes out again.

[bloodsunday]

I think the Steelers need to be at number one, they are looking dominant! I guess the real test comes on Sunday, they play the Patties.
That's a test for both. The Pats look to have some improvements to make after Sunday's game and its at Pitt.

[NaptownChief]

Once we put the beat down on the Donks in Pile High that should move us up to the top spot or close to it....Then again people may not think too much of us putting the beat down on a 1-2 squad.

[BMF Bronco]

That's a test for both. The Pats look to have some improvements to make after Sunday's game and its at Pitt.

Definitely, it looked like the Panthers put a chink in the armor. The ironic part of this game is that last year, the Steelers beat the Patties to halt thier record breaking winning streak, now pitt is trying for thier own. Redemption? Hmmm.

[BMF Bronco]

Once we put the beat down on the Donks in Pile High that should move us up to the top spot or close to it....Then again people may not think too much of us putting the beat down on a 1-2 squad.

1-1 dumbass :bash:

[Meck77]

no one fears the passing game of the Ravens, so they just stack up against Jamal Lewis. It's the same way Denver was defended in 1999 after John left.

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I think the same could be said about the Broncos right now. Until Jake and WRs get in a groove our running game is going to suffer. I'm thrilled we won last week but with the Chiefs coming to town we need to open up the field this week or we are going to get killed.

We will get it done though. **** the chiefs!

[Mediator12]

Once we put the beat down on the Donks in Pile High that should move us up to the top spot or close to it....Then again people may not think too much of us putting the beat down on a 1-2 squad.

And you last won in Denver? If the defense plays as well as they did against SD this is going to be an Epic game. I like the fact that if Denver Wins they sit in sole possession of the AFCW due to the head to head tie breaker personally. That just might make the MIA debacle a little less painful. :charge:

[2KBack]

And you last won in Denver? If the defense plays as well as they did against SD this is going to be an Epic game. I like the fact that if Denver Wins they sit in sole possession of the AFCW due to the head to head tie breaker personally. That just might make the MIA debacle a little less painful. :charge:

If we win monday, I'll be more than happy to forgive the Miami game. It'll take a sweep to make me forget though.

[bloodsunday]

I think the same could be said about the Broncos right now. Until Jake and WRs get in a groove our running game is going to suffer. I'm thrilled we won last week but with the Chiefs coming to town we need to open up the field this week or we are going to get killed.

We will get it done though. **** the chiefs!
I think the coaches have to adjust. They are coaching into this trap if you ask me. I don't think they believe Jake (and perhaps the receivers) are capable of coming out throwing and beating a team. So instead they are very methodical and keep trying the same things. It's not a bad approach if our D can play as well as they did against SD.

[bloodsunday]

And you last won in Denver? If the defense plays as well as they did against SD this is going to be an Epic game. I like the fact that if Denver Wins they sit in sole possession of the AFCW due to the head to head tie breaker personally. That just might make the MIA debacle a little less painful. :charge:
The trouble is that the Chiefs now have their home games in pocket. We gotta do some damage in the middle portion of the season because we have two December road games in AFC West. And a road game at Buffalo. At least Baltimore is looking more and more beatable.

I'd sure like to be the Chiefs and know that if we are competing with a divsion rival we get em at home.

[ZachKC]

I'd sure like to be the Chiefs and know that if we are competing with a divsion rival we get em at home.
Indeed, we are 2-0 during the hardest 4 game stretch of our season.

[bloodsunday]

Indeed, we are 2-0 during the hardest 4 game stretch of our season.
If the Broncos and Chargers lose this weekend, then the Chiefs can mail it in (barring a major injury).

[NaptownChief]

1-1 dumbass :bash:


And you guys will still be 1-1 after a Monday Night beat down? That is impressive. Does the NFL league office give you guys a mulligan in exchange for a 3rd round pick or something?

[BMF Bronco]

And you guys will still be 1-1 after a Monday Night beat down? That is impressive. Does the NFL league office give you guys a mulligan in exchange for a 3rd round pick or something?

You said by "putting the beatdown op a 1-2 squad" (present tense) or something of the sort, IF, and that's a big if, you beat us, then we will be 1-2, but only thereafter. At the time of your alleged "beat down" we will still be 1-1. Understand that or shall I simplify it for you a bit more? Knowitall :thumbs:

[Meck77]

If the Broncos and Chargers lose this weekend, then the Chiefs can mail it in (barring a major injury).

oh come on...nobody can take anything to the bank in week 3 of the season. This sounds like the Chief fans declaring themselves superbowl champs when they were something like 7-0 or whatever it was a couple years ago. Then they got punked by the Bengals and the Broncos and busted in the playoffs.

I'm starting to sense the same level of arrogance from the Chief fans this year. I love it. :thumbsup:

[NaptownChief]

You said by "putting the beatdown op a 1-2 squad" (present tense) or something of the sort, IF, and that's a big if, you beat us, then we will be 1-2, but only thereafter. At the time of your alleged "beat down" we will still be 1-1. Understand that or shall I simplify it for you a bit more? Knowitall :thumbs:



Being that I was talking about next weeks ratings and post Donkey beat down only your record at that time was relevant.

[BMF Bronco]

Being that I was talking about next weeks ratings and post Donkey beat down only your record at that time was relevant.

Agree to disagree? :thumbsup:

[bloodsunday]

oh come on...nobody can take anything to the bank in week 3 of the season. This sounds like the Chief fans declaring themselves superbowl champs when they were something like 7-0 or whatever it was a couple years ago. Then they got punked by the Bengals and the Broncos and busted in the playoffs.

I'm starting to sense the same level of arrogance from the Chief fans this year. I love it. :thumbsup:
That may be an exaggeragation, but they'll have all the cards. They play all their AFC West games on the road before they play any at home. Every AFC West team has to play there in November/December -- the main conteners San Diego and Denver both in December. If they can get through this early stretch then they'll be tough to catch.

[bronco militia]

the 0-2 Chargers are above the 1-1 Dolphins?

[NaptownChief]

Does anybody have the power to speed this week up and get us to next Monday night? If so I would appreciate you invoking your power.

[2KBack]

Does anybody have the power to speed this week up and get us to next Monday night? If so I would appreciate you invoking your power.

I'm curious to see if the forum can keep up this breakneck smacktalk for a whole week.

[FADERPROOF]

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2004/football/nfl/09/08/waag.1/p1_p_manning_getty.jpg

Already ranked #1 and getting to tee off on the Browns this week, things look up for Manning winning his first ring this year.

[Kaylore]

14's my lucky number. :)

[FADERPROOF]

14's my lucky number. :)

You big Griese fan :)

[jspchief]

If the defense plays as well as they did against SD this is going to be an Epic game.
If your D plays the first half like they did in the first half of the SD game, it won't matter how good they are in the second half. The game will already be over.

Come out dragging ass like that against the Chiefs and Champ's going to have to run about 4 back.

[Kaylore]

You big Griese fan :)
Um, no. (I know you're kidding) 14 has been my lucky number since I was in third grade. I do like Nate Jackson and Devoe, though. I really liked Atwater because (pay attention Chief fans) 2 X 7=14. Darrent seems to be on the road to living up to the power of 27 as well. :strong:

[Drek]

Come out dragging ass like that against the Chiefs and Champ's going to have to run about 4 back. Well, we've all seen just how much Green likes passing to guys in orange and blue. Put the ball in Champs hands and you're real likely to see 6 up on the scoreboard. :) Deltha says hi.

Seriously though, we'll see how each team comes out. KC hasn't played a team with the ability to run all over an opponent like Denver can, but if Denver's D keeps being hot and cold, or if Plummer does his best Pennington impression and try giving the game away, it won't work out so well.

[dlow187]

16 (26) Redskins 2-0-0 So, apparently there was a pretty good reason the Redskins wanted to trade for Santana Moss.

17 (8) Cowboys 1-1-0 Cowboys players and coaches must feel like they got punched in the gut.

didnt the skins lose

[Tombstone RJ]

Indeed, we are 2-0 during the hardest 4 game stretch of our season.

Are you serious? You consider the Jets and Oakland hard teams to beat? Last time I checked the faiders still have no defense and Jets are a mediocre team, at best.


I'm predicting the all-powerful chefs will be 2-2 going into their bye week. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. :puff:

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Come out dragging ass like that against the Chiefs and Champ's going to have to run about 4 back.

I'd put that number higher

[jspchief]

Well, we've all seen just how much Green likes passing to guys in orange and blue. Put the ball in Champs hands and you're real likely to see 6 up on the scoreboard. :) Deltha says hi.

Seriously though, we'll see how each team comes out. KC hasn't played a team with the ability to run all over an opponent like Denver can, but if Denver's D keeps being hot and cold, or if Plummer does his best Pennington impression and try giving the game away, it won't work out so well.

I doubt Denver comes out flat for this game, but I wouldn't have guessed they would for the Chargers either. Must have still been licking their wounds from the previous week.

As for Denver's ability to run all over an opponent, it's not 2004 anymore and you guys haven't been running over much so far.

I do think your running game may be the key though. If you don't figure it out, KC will be able to tee off on Plummer and we all know what that means. KC always is able to score on Denver to a certain extent, so I don't see it as coming to a battle between our offense and your defense.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Are you serious? You consider the Jets and Oakland hard teams to beat? Last time I checked the faiders still have no defense and Jets are a mediocre team, at best.

I'm predicting the all-powerful chefs will be 2-2 going into their bye week. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. :puff:

Jets won a playoff game and managed to beat the team that walloped you.

Last time I checked the only team Dungver beat was winless.

[RedDread]

16 (26) Redskins 2-0-0 So, apparently there was a pretty good reason the Redskins wanted to trade for Santana Moss.

17 (8) Cowboys 1-1-0 Cowboys players and coaches must feel like they got punched in the gut.

didnt the skins lose

That other guy named Moss caught 2 in the last 10 minutes to give them the win

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Well, we've all seen just how much Green likes passing to guys in orange and blue. Put the ball in Champs hands and you're real likely to see 6 up on the scoreboard. :) Deltha says hi.


Green torched you the last time we played. In the last 4 games against Denver Green has two interceptions. Meanwhile, in the last 2 games against KC, Plummer has 4 interceptions.

KC hasn't played a team with the ability to run all over an opponent like Denver can

Hilarious. We shut down last year's NFL rushing champion. And Denver hasn't shown the ability to run all over anyone this year, not even close.

[jspchief]

Are you serious? You consider the Jets and Oakland hard teams to beat? Last time I checked the faiders still have no defense and Jets are a mediocre team, at best.


I'm predicting the all-powerful chefs will be 2-2 going into their bye week. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. :puff:Going off what we have to go off, it is the toughest 4 game stretch we have on our schedule. My guess is as the season progresses, we may find out that it wasn't the toughest.


The Jets won more play-off games than Denver last year. Maybe they are mediocre, but coming into the season, that certainly didn't look like an easy game. Oakland isn't that good IMO, but they are better than last year and division games are rarely easy, especially on the road.

Now we go to Denver and play Philly at home. If you see a tougher 4 game stretch on KC's schedule, let me know what you think it is.

[Tombstone RJ]

Jets won a playoff game and managed to beat the team that walloped you.

Last time I checked the only team Dungver beat was winless.

The Jets beat Miami at home, yep, so what. And as for for their playoff win, who cares? Miami played a great game against the Broncos AND the Broncos played a lousy game against the Phins.

SD is a better team than their record indicates. SD is better than Miami and the Jets and the faid.

[FADERPROOF]

Jets won a playoff game and managed to beat the team that walloped you.

Last time I checked the only team Dungver beat was winless.


Didnt you just say yesterday on a another thread that you stopped looking at last year once the preseason started?

Clockwork called you spinderella for that one, it's holding true.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Didnt you just say yesterday on a another thread that you stopped looking at last year once the preseason started?

Clockwork called you spinderella for that one, it's holding true.

Fine, forget it. The Jets are 1-1 and the Chargers are 0-2.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

SD is a better team than their record indicates. SD is better than Miami and the Jets and the faid.

Bull****. They haven't won a game.

You Broncos fans are already making excuses. I love it.

"Chiefs are frauds!" LOL

[FADERPROOF]

Fine, forget it. The Jets are 1-1 and the Chargers are 0-2.


You seriously are the dumbest person on this board.

[Tombstone RJ]

Going off what we have to go off, it is the toughest 4 game stretch we have on our schedule. My guess is as the season progresses, we may find out that it wasn't the toughest.


The Jets won more play-off games than Denver last year. Maybe they are mediocre, but coming into the season, that certainly didn't look like an easy game. Oakland isn't that good IMO, but they are better than last year and division games are rarely easy, especially on the road.

Now we go to Denver and play Philly at home. If you see a tougher 4 game stretch on KC's schedule, let me know what you think it is.

Hell, I think Denver first four games are just as hard as KC's. AT MIAMI in the heat. Next, the Broncos played a very good SD team. Now the Broncos play the all mighty chefs zowie! (we all know how great they are, right, wink, wink). Then the Broncos go back to Florida to play a very respectable Jagz. Team.

Pretty tough schedule too.

[jspchief]

Didnt you just say yesterday on a another thread that you stopped looking at last year once the preseason started?

Clockwork called you spinderella for that one, it's holding true.In defense of ding-dong...

When you're looking at your schedule making predictions on what games will be tough, you can only go off of the way you've seen the team play in the past. When it's the first few weeks of the season, that means looking at last year as a barometer.

We very well could come to find out that this isn't that tough of a stretch, as the season plays out. There are bound to be some teams that are better than we gave them credit for, just like there will be teams that have fallen off since last year. But coming into the season, this looked to be a tough run.

[Tombstone RJ]

Bull****. They haven't won a game.

You Broncos fans are already making excuses. I love it.

"Chiefs are frauds!" LOL

Don't worry, the chefs will start sucking soon enough....

[Bob's your Information Minister]

You seriously are the dumbest person on this board.

Until San Diego starts winning, they aren't a better team than the Jets.

I said all offseason and preseason SD was a bunch of frauds last year. So far that is proving to be true. Brees appears to be reverting to his true form.

You have absolutely nothing backing up your statement.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

God I'm sick of you ****ers already. I can't wait to see the Chiefs turn Denver into glue.

Then I'll get to hear 10,000 excuses. The refs! Luck! Someone on our team got hurt! The color of our jerseys!

[jspchief]

Hell, I think Denver first four games are just as hard as KC's. AT MIAMI in the heat. Next, the Broncos played a very good SD team. Now the Broncos play the all mighty chefs zowie! (we all know how great they are, right, wink, wink). Then the Broncos go back to Florida to play a very respectable Jagz. Team.

Pretty tough schedule too.No question you have a tough schedule too. I wasn't trying to compare "schedule" sizes. Hell, your schedule is much tougher all through the season IMO.

I was simply backing zach up on his comment about this being the middle of a tough streak for us. Most Chiefs fans, before the season started, believed these first four weeks were make or break for our season.

[Tombstone RJ]

God I'm sick of you ****ers already. I can't wait to see the Chiefs turn Denver into glue.

Then I'll get to hear 10,000 excuses. The refs! Luck! Someone on our team got hurt! The color of our jerseys!

And what if by some huge miracle, the Broncos actually win Monday night? What will you do then?

[Bob's your Information Minister]

And what if by some huge miracle, the Broncos actually win Monday night? What will you do then?

Take my medicine.

[Tombstone RJ]

Take my medicine.

:injured:

[RedDread]

The only people that should be able to talk smack are those who actually argued with us during this week. Wins tend to bring out the pussies that didn't say s*** all week.

[ZachKC]

Are you serious? You consider the Jets and Oakland hard teams to beat? Last time I checked the faiders still have no defense and Jets are a mediocre team, at best.


I'm predicting the all-powerful chefs will be 2-2 going into their bye week. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. :puff:
Jets (former playoff team)
At Oakland
At Denver
Philadelphia.

Thats a tough 4 game stretch. The toughest of our schedule. Can you find a harder section? We can't all sit around with NFL powerhouses like the Dolphins. rofl

[Bob's your Information Minister]

The only people that should be able to talk smack are those who actually argued with us during this week. Wins tend to bring out the pussies that didn't say s*** all week.

The Donks have played awful football for 6 quarters and good football for 2 quarters.

[jspchief]

We can't all sit around with NFL powerhouses like the Dolphins. roflYes, but it was really really hot in Miami.

Nevermind that it was 95 in KC that day, with about 70% humidity. 8')

[Tombstone RJ]

The Donks have played awful football for 6 quarters and good football for 2 quarters.

And yet they are still 1-1. Can you imagine if they put together 4 good quarters in a row? They might actually beat the unstoppable KC chefs.

[RedDread]

Yes, but it was really really hot in Miami.

Nevermind that it was 95 in KC that day, with about 70% humidity. 8')

don't forget their D was on the field a full 4.5 MINUTES longer than their offense!

[Tombstone RJ]

Jets (former playoff team)
At Oakland
At Denver
Philadelphia.

Thats a tough 4 game stretch. The toughest of our schedule. Can you find a harder section? We can't all sit around with NFL powerhouses like the Dolphins. rofl

2-2 by the end of this stretch. The chefs beat the two teams that they should have beat, and they will lose to the two teams that are better than them.

[ZachKC]

2-2 by the end of this stretch. The chefs beat the two teams that they should have beat, and they will lose to the two teams that are better than them.
Looks like we will see...I think you guys have a pretty sorry team this year but its a divisional game...anything can happen.

[jspchief]

2-2 by the end of this stretch. The chefs beat the two teams that they should have beat, and they will lose to the two teams that are better than them.
As long as Denver keeps losing to the teams they are supposed to beat, I think the Chiefs will get over those two loses. :curtsey: _i_O_i_

[ozomulsion]

Looks like we will see...I think you guys have a pretty sorry team this year but its a divisional game...anything can happen.

If that isn't a pregame excuse, I don't know what is.

[ZachKC]

If that isn't a pregame excuse, I don't know what is.
No, I leave that up to you guys after a game. I want to win and I think we will. If we don't I won't sweat it in the least. The home team has won 7 out of the past 7 games in this series. We are still sitting great at 2-1.

Having said that. I believe we win.

[dlow187]

That other guy named Moss caught 2 in the last 10 minutes to give them the win

No ****?

[RedDread]

No ****?

Sorry, sarcasm doesn't transfer well over the internet. I just assumed you were dumb or ignorant like the rest of your board brethren.

[jspchief]

If that isn't a pregame excuse, I don't know what is.Yea, because it is so much more admirable to blindly claim that your favorite team will win all games, ignoring other factors. hmmm...

[ozomulsion]

No, I leave that up to you guys after a game. I want to win and I think we will. If we don't I won't sweat it in the least. The home team has won 7 out of the past 7 games in this series. We are still sitting great at 2-1.

Having said that. I believe we win.

You have a very good chance. No doubts there. You won't hear any excuses out of me.

[ozomulsion]

Yea, because it is so much more admirable to blindly claim that your favorite team will win all games, ignoring other factors. hmmm...

Sorry, you are talking to the wrong guy.

[jspchief]

Sorry, you are talking to the wrong guy.
Not if you're the guy that just claimed that admitting divisional road games are tough is an "excuse".

There's a difference between making excuses and acknowledging the factors that will make the game a challenge.

[Merlin]

I think Denver takes this one, but sadly, I don't think we are able to gauge the team. SD and KC have a tough time winning in Denver, so a win for us would not tell us much. Even if the D does well, KC O has been playing average, so it serves as no indicator (just like SDs O in Denver cannot give us any insight into our D). The above being said, it would be nice to see all three sides of the team play well for 4 Qts for a change (that could be something to build on).

Merlin

[ozomulsion]

Not if you're the guy that just claimed that admitting divisional road games are tough is an "excuse".

There's a difference between making excuses and acknowledging the factors that will make the game a challenge.

It's been Chief fans throwing around excuse smack all week long. I just wanted to bounce that off Zack to see his answer would be. He's been a quality poster around here for a while. I don't even know who you are.

[ZachKC]

You have a very good chance. No doubts there. You won't hear any excuses out of me.
We need more of you around here.

[dlow187]

Sorry, sarcasm doesn't transfer well over the internet. I just assumed you were dumb or ignorant like the rest of your board brethren.

i guess not but hey do you know what does transfer well?
when i skeet on yo momma's face. skeet skeet skeet

[ZachKC]

i guess not but hey do you know what does transfer well?
when i skeet on yo momma's face. skeet skeet skeet
Wow, there seem to be a lot of posters like you around here.

OM regulars... WTF is going on.

[Tombstone RJ]

i guess not but hey do you know what does transfer well?
when i skeet on yo momma's face. skeet skeet skeet

Dirk Digler has spoken.

[dlow187]

Wow, there seem to be a lot of posters like you around here.

OM regulars... WTF is going on.


Totaly like 'wow' oh-my-gosh your a fag

[Kaylore]

Wow, there seem to be a lot of posters like you around here.

OM regulars... WTF is going on.
You suck.

[ZachKC]

You suck.
You would think quality posters like yourself would be upset at thier own board turning into a daycare.

[ZachKC]

Aside from that. I am excited for the Eagles Game for the Chiefs.

Chiefs normally beat the hell out the top NFC team that come into Arrowhead.

See Atlanta in 04
Rams in 02
Rams in 00
Vikes in 99
San Fran in 97
Green Bay in 96
San Fran in 94

[Clockwork Orange]

You would think quality posters like yourself would be upset at thier own board turning into a daycare.

We needed someone to play action figures and trade Pokemon cards with Bob. ;)

[dlow187]

dont try to act all mature and be cool with everybody cause u dont want to hear the smack talk after the queefs get their asses handed to them. actually it will be close but queefs still lose 23-20 by another gamewinning kick by elam ; )

[ZachKC]

We needed someone to play action figures and trade Pokemon cards with Bob. ;)
You are one as well. Doesn't this frustrate you at all? Nobody says anything about the slow dumbing down of the quality of posts of this great place.

[dlow187]

Aside from that. I am excited for the Eagles Game for the Chiefs.

Chiefs normally beat the hell out the top NFC team that come into Arrowhead.

See Atlanta in 04
Rams in 02
Rams in 00
Vikes in 99
San Fran in 97
Green Bay in 96
San Fran in 94

oh and i dont believe the falcons were THE top NFC team
another bird logo... but i cant think oh yeah the McNabbs

[ZachKC]

oh and i dont believe the falcons were THE top NFC team
another bird logo... but i cant think oh yeah the McNabbs
Top NFC teams...not all of those teams were at THE top. Some where. All were among the best. Most of them not only got beat but got the **** kicked out of them. You guys know what that feels like at Arrowhead.

[Clockwork Orange]

You are one as well. Doesn't this frustrate you at all? Nobody says anything about the slow dumbing down of the quality of posts of this great place.

I get what you're saying, but what can you do?

All you can really hope is that people eventually figure out that these aren't the ESPN boards and that we actually talk football here (when we're not trading verbal jabs).

[Tombstone RJ]

Top NFC teams...not all of those teams were at THE top. Some where. All were among the best. Most of them not only got beat but got the **** kicked out of them. You guys know what that feels like at Arrowhead.

Ah yes, the mystique of narrowhead. Its really apparent how great that home field advantage is, especially in the playoffs for the vaunted chefs. Btw, does anyone remember what the score was for the last home playoff game for the chefs?

[dlow187]

Top NFC teams...not all of those teams were at THE top. Some where. All were among the best. Most of them not only got beat but got the **** kicked out of them. You guys know what that feels like at Arrowhead.
ive been messin around and you get all sad.

but i was just pointing out that u said "THE top Nfc TEAM"

[Kaylore]

You would think quality posters like yourself would be upset at thier own board turning into a daycare.
Well if it bothers you so much you could always leave. There is a lot of smack talk in this thread and a tremendous amount of posturing going on. I would think you would expect some of these type of replies especially given the upcoming game. It gets like this during Raider week with the fade posters. I'm sure its no different at Chiefstrailer.com.

[ZachKC]

I get what you're saying, but what can you do?

All you can really hope is that people eventually figure out that these aren't the ESPN boards and that we actually talk football here (when we're not trading verbal jabs).
I agree, we can't make anyone do anything and this is a free board to some extent. I just never see respected posters around here try to voice thier dissapointment with all of it.

It happens alot at Chiefs Planet...we still have alot of jackasses of course. But alot of no quality "you are such a fag" losers have been run out over the years. Just something ive had on my mind.

[ZachKC]

Well if it bothers you so much you could always leave. .
So it does not bother you at all?

[Kaylore]

So it does not bother you at all?
Did you read my whole post? If it was like this before a game against the Texans I'd be annoyed. Chief's game week? Not at all.

[dlow187]

call me a newbie or what ever but all i was doin was trading verbal jabs or i thought. here's the fight recap:
u jab, i jab, u cry something about daycare, i jab, u still complain , so i have to explain myself

[ZachKC]

Ah yes, the mystique of narrowhead. Its really apparent how great that home field advantage is, especially in the playoffs for the vaunted chefs. Btw, does anyone remember what the score was for the last home playoff game for the chefs?
If I was a Bronco fan. All I would do is talk about the past. Really.

[ZachKC]

Did you read my whole post? If it was like this before a game against the Texans I'd be annoyed. Chief's game week? Not at all.
You believe it is only like this during KC week??

[dlow187]

call me a newbie or what ever but all i was doin was trading verbal jabs or i thought. here's the fight recap:
u jab, i jab, u cry something about daycare, i jab, u still complain , so i have to explain myself

damn i guess it is lika daycare

[Tombstone RJ]

If I was a Bronco fan. All I would do is talk about the past. Really.

Speaking of the past (which is exactly what your doing when bringing up how great the chefs are against "top NFC teams",) what is the playoff record for the chefs, at home, over the past, say 20 years again? ;D

[Kaylore]

You believe it is only like this during KC week??
First of all what are you whining about, this?
i guess not but hey do you know what does transfer well? when i skeet on yo momma's face. skeet skeet skeet
Just about every other post has been ok with some decent takes now and again. With the exception of some sword rattling, and you appearing upset that there isn't more Bronco fans on the board who want to throw props to Kansas City, I don't get what your beef is.

Whenever you are disappointed with something I recommend sitting down and looking at what your expectations were and then reexamining the situation.

[ZachKC]

Speaking of the past (which is exactly what your doing when bringing up how great the chefs are against "top NFC teams",) what is the playoff record for the chefs, at home, over the past, say 20 years again? ;D
This has always been your schtick...your thoughts about current Bronco teams generally have gaping holes and you have nothing left...again. If I was a Bronco fan I would hate talking about this team. They are very rough and tumble.

[dlow187]

kaylore kicks ass

[Kaylore]

kaylore kicks ass
Thank you, though you should try to keep the smack talk a shade more PG-13 and direct it at their silly team.

[ZachKC]

First of all what are you whining about, this?

Just about every other post has been ok with some decent takes now and again. With the exception of some sword rattling, and you appearing upset that there isn't more Bronco fans on the board who want to throw props to Kansas City, I don't get what your beef is.

Whenever you are disappointed with something I recommend sitting down and looking at what your expectations were and then reexamining the situation.
No, it has nothing to do with giving props to KC...it has to do with people that talk football. There are not that many left around here. I am really suprised you are not frustrated that this great place seems to be filling up with more Bronx's than Pezman's. It seems obvious to me.

[Tombstone RJ]

This has always been your schtick...your thoughts about current Bronco teams generally have gaping holes and you have nothing left...again. If I was a Bronco fan I would hate talking about this team. They are very rough and tumble.

There's no "schtick" here Zach. Just hard, cold facts. I'm confident in this currrent Broncos team and I'm confident they are going to win Monday night.

If you want to talk about gaping holes, just wait until after Monday night. We'll be discussing those holes after the Broncos put up 120+ yards on your vaunted chef's defense.

[dlow187]

This has always been your schtick...your thoughts about current Bronco teams generally have gaping holes and you have nothing left...again. If I was a Bronco fan I would hate talking about this team. They are very rough and tumble.

If i were a chiefs fan i would be doing the same thing after i looked at my team as a whole. I also would be worried that the strenth of your team the offense isnt getting any younger so your window of opportunity is closing.
Im not talkin about the broncos so dont try to bash us because i know and am willing to talk about our holes.
and oh yeah how long is cry baby gonna coach for?
my bet is after the chiefs dont make the playoffs he is gonna quit

[ZachKC]

There's no "schtick" here Zach. Just hard, cold facts. I'm confident in this currrent Broncos team and I'm confident they are going to win Monday night.

If you want to talk about gaping holes, just wait until after Monday night. We'll be discussing those holes after the Broncos but up 120+ yards on your vaunted chef's defense.
Behind that line?

[Tombstone RJ]

Behind that line?

Yep.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Funny stuff. The Jets and Curtis Martin couldn't crack our run defense. But suddenly a couple of scrubs like Mike Anderson and Ron Dayne are? Hilarious.

[minibronco]

By the end of this week we'll be in 10th

[ZachKC]

By the end of this week we'll be in 10th
10 in what.

[baja]

The Donks have played awful football for 6 quarters and good football for 2 quarters.

It won't be 105 in the shade in Denver

[Bob's your Information Minister]

It won't be 105 in the shade in Denver

It wasn't 105 in the shade in the first half of your game with San Diego, either.

And your offense still played like crap in the second half.

Unfortunately for your defense, our offense knows how to pick up a blitz, too.

[wabbit]

No, it has nothing to do with giving props to KC...it has to do with people that talk football. There are not that many left around here. I am really suprised you are not frustrated that this great place seems to be filling up with more Bronx's than Pezman's. It seems obvious to me.

Well, I wouldn't stand for it another minute...no sir.

If I were you...well, I'd kill myself, but, if I were you (in the figurative sense), I'd leave and deprive this forum of your deep insight shallow one linersand clownish smilies...forever.

Yes sir.

[dlow187]

where is zach??

[Tombstone RJ]

Funny stuff. The Jets and Curtis Martin couldn't crack our run defense. But suddenly a couple of scrubs like Mike Anderson and Ron Dayne are? Hilarious.

Scrubs like Anderson are the type of RB that is going to dislodge the teeth from your golden boys mouth come Monday night. Derrick Johnson is gonna facing an offensive line that can get to the second level, and a RB who can get the tough yards.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Hey, wabbit, how did the media grilling session go today? Did you pepper the rat with reminders of last year's blowout?

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Scrubs like Anderson are the type of RB that is going to dislodge the teeth from your golden boys mouth come Monday night. Derrick Johnson is gonna facing an offensive line that can get to the second level, and a RB who can get the tough yards.

That's hilarious. We shut down Curtis Martin but Mike Anderson is going to "own" us.

I can't wait!

[dlow187]

hey bob is that bet i have w/ you cause i seriously forgot

[baja]

It wasn't 105 in the shade in the first half of your game with San Diego, either.

And your offense still played like crap in the second half.

Unfortunately for your defense, our offense knows how to pick up a blitz, too.

we score 1 defense TD and williams runs back one of 10 punts, we win 14 zip

[dlow187]

we score 1 defense TD and williams runs back one of 10 punts, we win 14 zip

wouldnt that be 14 zip?

[ozomulsion]

Funny stuff. The Jets and Curtis Martin couldn't crack our run defense. But suddenly a couple of scrubs like Mike Anderson and Ron Dayne are? Hilarious.

Yep, C-Mart had a whole 31 carries for 72 yards this week. He is on fire I tell ya. Now that's "funny stuff". Despite what you may think, Bell isn't buried on the bench. He should be practicing again Thursday. You'll see more of him than you think. Dammit Boob. Are you thinking again?

[Bob's your Information Minister]

hey bob is that bet i have w/ you cause i seriously forgot

The penis one? Yes.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Yep, C-Mart had a whole 31 carries for 72 yards this week. He is on fire I tell ya. Now that's "funny stuff". Despite what you may think, Bell isn't buried on the bench. He should be practicing again Thursday. You'll see more of him than you think. Dammit Boob. Are you thinking again?

Martin's still the defending NFL rushing champion. How many 1,000 yard seasons in a row? Somehow I doubt he lost that ability in one offseason.

I didn't hear any Bronco fans saying "well you know, KC will probably shut down Martin in week one, because he's so overrated."

All I heard were Bronco fans saying "Martin will gash you for at least 150, you are going to lose."

Now suddenly Martin sucks. Right. The Chiefs defense COULDN'T be getting better!

[baja]

wouldnt that be 14 zip?

Is that different than 14 zip?

[wabbit]

Hey, wabbit, how did the media grilling session go today? Did you pepper the rat with reminders of last year's blowout?

I'll be out there tomorrow.

Listen, 'Bob...seems as though you're getting a little close to all this.

When you're not posting here, you're over on that cess pool fielding hand grenades from entire throngs of people who can't stand you...& I suspect you're on several others as well.

You gotta get out of the basement, son...daddy can feed you all the stats in the world, but that doesn't help with the social situation.

...ever held the hand of a girl, 'Bob?? They are soft & understanding people...in large part they don't give a damn if Quentin Griffin smoked your sorry ass last year, & I'd bet a vast majority have never calculated a QB rating...just a guess there.

Get a life, boy...there's sunshine & grandchildren for dad...just waiting.

[Kaylore]

No, it has nothing to do with giving props to KC...it has to do with people that talk football. There are not that many left around here. I am really suprised you are not frustrated that this great place seems to be filling up with more Bronx's than Pezman's. It seems obvious to me.
I don't see what you're talking about. I went back and looked at this very carefully. If you re-read it, its basically all the chiefs posters making fun of the Broncos and the bronco posters responding with real analysis. Sure we throw some mud too, but most of the thread the Chiefs fans are the ones throwing the crap around. Here are the primary contributing posters:

Bloodsunday - Who is a great poster, even though I think he nit-picks things whether they are directly relevant to the team or not.

2kback - Who had an excellent take on the Ravens.

Ludo21- Contributes to the forum quite well.

cmh6476 - Who appears to have joined to talk smack.

You - So-so analysis. i really stopped taking you seriously when you said our team looked "sorry" this year.

BMF Bronco - A take about the Steelers being a good team, which is true. He only smacks when Naptown comes in and throws his talk around.

Garcia Bronco - An old timer that has some great takes. He's not new.

NaptownChief - A well thought out smack post that cleverly uses "pile High" and "smack down" in the same sentence.

Meck77 - One of my favorite people let alone poster. Great take on needing to establish the pass to open up the run.

Mediator12 - Who knows his football, the broncos and responds to Naptown's "brilliant" prediction with sound analysis.

FADERPROOF - Who has some nice takes and makes fun of me for liking the number 14.

Drek - great poster who throws a little smack but then seriouses down for a real take.

Tombstone RJ - Who has a nice avatar and predicts that the Chiefs will be 2-2 at the bye.

RedDread - Who likes to insult posters and the board in general

dlow187 - Was doing ok until he got personal.

jspchief - Who predicts that Denver is going to play hard.

Hercules Rockefeller - Small blurps that generally agree with the Chiefs.

Bob - Who frequently uses flawed lagic, continues that streak.

ozomulsion - Well, just read his avatar line.

Merlin - Who makes a prediction

Sorry but this great slide toward meanness and drivel has come mostly from your teams' posters- at least in this thread anyway.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Bob - Who frequently uses flawed lagic, continues that streak.


The Chiefs run defense has been great.

Meanwhile the Broncos rushing offense has sucked.

So, I predict the Chiefs will shut down Denver's running game.

And a bunch of Bronco fans predict Denver will "RUN WILD. LOL IT'S DA CHIEFS!" they say.

Who's logic is flawed again?

[Kaylore]

The Chiefs run defense has been great.

Meanwhile the Broncos rushing offense has sucked.

So, I predict the Chiefs will shut down Denver's running game.

And a bunch of Bronco fans predict Denver will "RUN WILD. LOL IT'S DA CHIEFS!" they say.

Who's logic is flawed again?
Your belief that record = a certain team sucks more than another because, gosh golly, look at teh rec0Rd@!!!!!! I mean do you really believe that the Dolphins are better than the Chargers?

[RedDread]

I'll try to be a little less troll-like but there are some posters who deserve the beatdown.

[ozomulsion]

Martin's still the defending NFL rushing champion. How many 1,000 yard seasons in a row? Somehow I doubt he lost that ability in one offseason.

I didn't hear any Bronco fans saying "well you know, KC will probably shut down Martin in week one, because he's so overrated."

All I heard were Bronco fans saying "Martin will gash you for at least 150, you are going to lose."

Now suddenly Martin sucks. Right. The Chiefs defense COULDN'T be getting better!

Well, he has to start a downhill slide at some point. I'm willing to bet it's this year. The Boy has alot of carries and alot of years under his belt. I don't know what's going on with his O-line but something isn't clicking. If he would've had 20 carries for 110 yards this week, you would so have a point. He didn't and you don't.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Your belief that record = a certain team sucks more than another because, gosh golly, look at teh rec0Rd@!!!!!! I mean do you really believe that the Dolphins are better than the Chargers?

No, I never said that. But I certainly think the Jets are. The Jets defeated them last year in the playoffs, and again, the Jets have a superior record this year.

What evidence do YOU have that San Diego is better than the Jets?

[Kaylore]

Martin's still the defending NFL rushing champion. How many 1,000 yard seasons in a row? Somehow I doubt he lost that ability in one offseason.

I didn't hear any Bronco fans saying "well you know, KC will probably shut down Martin in week one, because he's so overrated."

All I heard were Bronco fans saying "Martin will gash you for at least 150, you are going to lose."

Now suddenly Martin sucks. Right. The Chiefs defense COULDN'T be getting better!
I predicted that you guys would win, though I didn't think it would be a blowout. That said, I don't think Herm Edwards is all that great and I didn't think the Jets would make the playoffs this year.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Well, he has to start a downhill slide at some point. I'm willing to bet it's this year. The Boy has alot of carries and alot of years under his belt. I don't know what's going on with his O-line but something isn't clicking. If he would've had 20 carries for 110 yards this week, you would so have a point. He didn't and you don't.

Ok so two bad games completely invalidates the previous years of success?

Martin had bad games last year.

[dlow187]

I don't see what you're talking about. I went back and looked at this very carefully. If you re-read it, its basically all the chiefs posters making fun of the Broncos and the bronco posters responding with real analysis. Sure we throw some mud too, but most of the thread the Chiefs fans are the ones throwing the crap around. Here are the primary contributing posters:

Bloodsunday - Who is a great poster, even though I think he nit-picks things whether they are directly relevant to the team or not.

2kback - Who had an excellent take on the Ravens.

Ludo21- Contributes to the forum quite well.

cmh6476 - Who appears to have joined to talk smack.

You - So-so analysis. i really stopped taking you seriously when you said our team looked "sorry" this year.

BMF Bronco - A take about the Steelers being a good team, which is true. He only smacks when Naptown comes in and throws his talk around.

Garcia Bronco - An old timer that has some great takes. He's not new.

NaptownChief - A well thought out smack post that cleverly uses "pile High" and "smack down" in the same sentence.

Meck77 - One of my favorite people let alone poster. Great take on needing to establish the pass to open up the run.

Mediator12 - Who knows his football, the broncos and responds to Naptown's "brilliant" prediction with sound analysis.

FADERPROOF - Who has some nice takes and makes fun of me for liking the number 14.

Drek - great poster who throws a little smack but then seriouses down for a real take.

Tombstone RJ - Who has a nice avatar and predicts that the Chiefs will be 2-2 at the bye.

RedDread - Who likes to insult posters and the board in general

dlow187 - Was doing ok until he got personal.

jspchief - Who predicts that Denver is going to play hard.

Hercules Rockefeller - Small blurps that generally agree with the Chiefs.

Bob - Who frequently uses flawed lagic, continues that streak.

ozomulsion - Well, just read his avatar line.

Merlin - Who makes a prediction

Sorry but this great slide toward meanness and drivel has come mostly from your teams' posters- at least in this thread anyway.

dont explain your self to that scrotum sucker
let him cry to his mom while she makes him a PB & J

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I predicted that you guys would win, though I didn't think it would be a blowout. That said, I don't think Herm Edwards is all that great and I didn't think the Jets would make the playoffs this year.

I guess the Chiefs schedule is suddenly easy. We're frauds.

[Kaylore]

No, I never said that. But I certainly think the Jets are. The Jets defeated them last year in the playoffs, and again, the Jets have a superior record this year.

What evidence do YOU have that San Diego is better than the Jets?
I look at their team and the talent and they are a good team. They went 12-4 last year which is more than either of our teams could do. Their offense has the best back in the NFL, the second best tight end, a great Quarterback and a great veteran receiver. They're also very young and have speed. They have a solid defense and good special teams. They're a good team. The Jets have a Qb with wounded arm, and aging running back and receivers that are "ok". That I even took time to answer you is ridiculous.

[Kaylore]

I guess the Chiefs schedule is suddenly easy. We're frauds.
Yeah Bob. That's what I said. :hitself:

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I look at their team and the talent and they are a good team. They went 12-4 last year which is more than either of our teams could do. Their offense has the best back in the NFL, the second best tight end, a great Quarterback and a great veteran receiver. They're also very young and have speed. They have a solid defense and good special teams. They're a good team. The Jets have a Qb with wounded arm, and aging running back and receivers that are "ok". That I even took time to answer you is ridiculous.

No, what's ridiculous is that you think San Diego is better than New York. Neither team really added much to their roster in the offseason other than draft choices.

The Jets defeated San Diego in the playoffs. The Jets currently have a better record than San Diego.

The Jets are better. End of story.

[Bronco9798]

I guess the Chiefs schedule is suddenly easy. We're frauds.

You finally came to your senses.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Yeah Bob. That's what I said. :hitself:

That's what you implied. The Chiefs are off to a great start, so the only way you can sit here and say they are not that great is to discredit their opponents.

[Bronco9798]

No, what's ridiculous is that you think San Diego is better than New York. Neither team really added much to their roster in the offseason other than draft choices.

The Jets defeated San Diego in the playoffs. The Jets currently have a better record than San Diego.

The Jets are better. End of story.

Teams aren't always a reflection of their record Bob. The Chargers could easily be 2-0 but for a few bad breaks/plays.

[RedDread]

Teams aren't always a reflection of their record Bob. The Chargers could easily be 2-0 but for a few bad breaks/plays.

Playcalling is holding them back.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Teams aren't always a reflection of their record Bob.

No, sorry. As Bill Parcells said, this is the NFL. You are what you are.

The Chiefs were 7-9 last year. You gonna tell me they were better than that?

[Kaylore]

No, sorry. As Bill Parcells said, this is the NFL. You are what you are.

The Chiefs were 7-9 last year. You gonna tell me they were better than that?
Actually yes.

[HAT]

Jets (former playoff team)
At Oakland
At Denver
Philadelphia.

Thats a tough 4 game stretch. The toughest of our schedule. Can you find a harder section? We can't all sit around with NFL powerhouses like the Dolphins. rofl

Forgive me if this has been answered already....didn't feel like reading pages 4-7.

Toughest 4 game set for you guys is:

Sun 11/27 New England 1:00 pm
Sun 12/4 Denver 4:15 pm
Sun 12/11 at Dallas 4:15 pm
Sat 12/17 at NY Giants 5:00 pm

[ozomulsion]

Ok so two bad games completely invalidates the previous years of success?

Martin had bad games last year.

Of course it doesn't invalidate what he did last year. Like I said something isn't clicking. He had one game last year where he averaged under 3 YPC (N.E.). Only one other that he averaged under 3.5 YPC (Pitt). He has had under 3 YPC in his first two games this year. You were saying?

[bob bobs' on gunther]

look at my name it rocks!!!!!!!!

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Of course it doesn't invalidate what he did last year. Like I said something isn't clicking. He had one game last year where he averaged under 3 YPC (N.E.). Only one other that he averaged under 3.5 YPC (Pitt). He has had under 3 YPC in his first two games this year. You were saying?

So, Mike Anderson is better than Curtis Martin?

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Forgive me if this has been answered already....didn't feel like reading pages 4-7.

Toughest 4 game set for you guys is:

Sun 11/27 New England 1:00 pm
Sun 12/4 Denver 4:15 pm
Sun 12/11 at Dallas 4:15 pm
Sat 12/17 at NY Giants 5:00 pm

Dallas and the Giants! LOL

[bob bobs' on gunther]

bobby bobby we want bobby

[Bob's your Information Minister]

bobby bobby we want bobby

Welcome to ignore. A troll after your first post, that must be a record.

[Candy Cigarettes]

bobby bobby we want bobby

God, this board has gone downhill this week..... :pity:

[ozomulsion]

So, Mike Anderson is better than Curtis Martin?

WTF? Yikes! Umm no! The Chiefs D isn't as good as you think though.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

WTF? Yikes! Umm no! The Chiefs D isn't as good as you think though.

If we can shut down Curtis Martin, we can shut down Denver.

[Bronco9798]

God, this board has gone downhill this week..... :pity:

Cool Avatar!!!

[bob bobs' on gunther]

Welcome to ignore. A troll after your first post, that must be a record.

now bobs all sad ****in ******
**** him, taco, and clockworkorange, and baja

[Kaylore]

God, this board has gone downhill this week..... :pity:
Hilarious! I guess so.

Ok, I stand corrected ZachKC. This is pretty bad. Paging a mod...paging a mod...

[Kaylore]

now bobs all sad ****in ******
**** him, taco, and clockworkorange, and baja
Forum terrorist. Is our friend FinFan back?

[bob bobs' on gunther]

God, this board has gone downhill this week..... :pity:

your such a queer hiding behind a curtain huh dick face

[ozomulsion]

Hilarious! I guess so.

Ok, I stand corrected ZachKC. This is pretty bad. Paging a mod...paging a mod...

Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!

[bob bobs' on gunther]

Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!

caca :spamattac

[Kaylore]

You know what's funny? Last time this happened there wasn't a mod around then either. Guess we have to put up with penis man for awhile until SoCal, Taco, or someone decides to hit refresh. :'(

[Bob's your Information Minister]

You know what's funny? Last time this happened there wasn't a mod around then either. Guess we have to put up with penis man for awhile until SoCal, Taco, or someone decides to hit refresh. :'(

I'm getting annoyed just seeing his name on the "last post" column, and I have him on ignore.

[Kaylore]

Looks like a mod found him. His posting stopped.

[Pezman]

Buh bye...

[GreatBronco16]

If we can shut down Curtis Martin, we can shut down Denver.


If we shut down LT, we can shut down KC.

Do you see how stupid that is? My guess would be you don't.

[Atlas]

How about them Ravens that the whole ESPN gang was sucking up to in the offseason? I was so sick of hearing how great their offseason was when they failed to address their number one need: a quarterback. It appears now that Lewis maybe washed up as well.

I thought the Ravens whole season depended on Boller but hell, they can't even run the ball. They are a mess and it won't get any better when Boller gets back.

[watermock]

New England and Indy haven't looked that hot so far either. I think it's a free for all this year.

[Atlas]

New England and Indy haven't looked that hot so far either. I think it's a free for all this year.

We'll see how good NE plays at Pitt this year.

[fontaine]

God I'm sick of you ****ers already. I can't wait to see the Chiefs turn Denver into glue.

Then why is it you daily frequent this board and clutter it up with your nonsensical babble.

This is on of the few times I've responded to one of your posts and probably the last, but I hope you get banned from this site for calling Bronco fans fvckers.

It doesn't take a whole lot of intelligence to be civil on a rival team's message board but I suppose you've no more common sense than some of the Bronco fans here who continue to respond to your drivel rather than ignoring the bs.

[WaffleBoy]

I think the Steelers need to be at number one, they are looking dominant! I guess the real test comes on Sunday, they play the Patties.

Indeed.

The Boy Wonder :super:

[ZachKC]

Forgive me if this has been answered already....didn't feel like reading pages 4-7.

Toughest 4 game set for you guys is:

Sun 11/27 New England 1:00 pm
Sun 12/4 Denver 4:15 pm
Sun 12/11 at Dallas 4:15 pm
Sat 12/17 at NY Giants 5:00 pm
Dallas is a bottom feeder and the Giants are mediocre at best. Denver at home? How will we be able to hang with the Broncos at Arrowhead? ;)

[bloodsunday]

Dallas is a bottom feeder and the Giants are mediocre at best.
Those are bold predictions for two away games. But you'll know after you play them if you are right or wrong.

[ZachKC]

Those are bold predictions for two away games. But you'll know after you play them if you are right or wrong.
Its generally the team that has started off rough that talks about how you can't tell much from two games in the NFL. Nothing is abslute and crazy things happen in the NFL. Teams ascend...teams hit rough streaks. But you can get a pretty good damn sense of where a team is headed after the preseason and two games.

[FADERPROOF]

We need more of you around here.

We need less of you around here.