Raider fans

[Rocket 7]

Your team is now 0-2. Now what?

[Rocket 7]

We win next week. We have the division lead

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Haha....where is RR. Randy got his yards but KC's defense IS FOR REAL! WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[DBroncos4life]

Haha....where is RR. Randy got his yards but KC's defense IS FOR REAL! WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!



Ha don't think so bob.

[Raiders Rock]

I predicted on my forum this team would go 0-3 because they made so many changes.

We have a good team and had a shot to win it but just couldn't put em away.

On to Philly!

Good game Boob....

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Ha don't think so bob.

Dude....SEVENTEEN F*CKING POINTS!

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I predicted on my forum this team would go 0-3 because they made so many changes.

We have a good team and had a shot to win it but just couldn't put em away.

On to Philly!

Good game Boob....

Props for taking your medicine. I think your run D is for real, it was very annoying all night. I was sweating my ass off at the end.

[TheReverend]

Dude....SEVENTEEN ****ING POINTS!

Next week and well see. Maybe you have a lot to talk about, maybe you have a lot to shut up about.

[DBroncos4life]

Dude....SEVENTEEN ****ING POINTS!


I don't count the points the refs took away.

[Taco John]

Haha....where is RR. Randy got his yards but KC's defense IS FOR REAL! WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


Your defense looked pretty bad to me. The Raiders stopped themselves more than the KC defense did. How many touchdowns did the Raiders cost themselves anyway? Two? Three?

[RhymesayersDU]

Porter is a good WR, but that 4th down play needed to go to Moss.

[TheReverend]

Your defense looked pretty bad to me. The Raiders stopped themselves more than the KC defense did. How many touchdowns did the Raiders cost themselves anyway? Two? Three?

This off topic and Im sorry, but Ill never get over laughing at your avatar.

[Priest Dante]

I don't count the points the refs took away.

The BS PI call against Moss was one of two penalties, there was also a holding call on the same play against the Raiders.

[Taco John]

Porter is a good WR, but that 4th down play needed to go to Moss.



Yep. Completely stupid call.

[Northman]

Your defense looked pretty bad to me. The Raiders stopped themselves more than the KC defense did. How many touchdowns did the Raiders cost themselves anyway? Two? Three?


Yea, the Fade shot themselves in the foot with penalties on more than one occasion. but, with the Broncos playing as poorly as they are even the lowly chiefs can beat us.

[shakenbake]

What do gorillas suits and radiers have to do with each other ?

[Taco John]

What do gorillas suits and radiers have to do with each other ?



That wasn't a suit.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Your defense looked pretty bad to me. The Raiders stopped themselves more than the KC defense did. How many touchdowns did the Raiders cost themselves anyway? Two? Three?

We stopped them. That's all that matters.

17 points. SEVENTEEN. In their house.

Last year, our defense folds after Parker fumbles the ball. Today they stepped up and won the ballgame.

GOOOOOOOOONTHER!

[Rocket 7]

Yep. Completely stupid call.
Routine Fader call

[Raiders Rock]

Props for taking your medicine. I think your run D is for real, it was very annoying all night. I was sweating my ass off at the end.

Trent played pretty good, our secondary needs help bad, I was proud of the run D , had a decent pass rush , made a big play when it was needed but could not finish....

I am not happy with losing but I saw some things I liked and saw others I didn't, Lamont must have been excited because he is usually sure handed, then Jano missed again, had a TD stolen from us (thats football) the hold when lamont ran for a td was a good call but basically we got screwed but other than that ... congrats, ..... Denver has nothing for you, your D is better than last year but I don't think it's good enough to win a SB for KC BUT you are a helluva lot better than Denver and SD....

[Crushaholic]

I don't count the points the refs took away.

KC had a gift handed to them when the Moss "push off" was called. He just outleaped McNugget. That should have been 6.

[Atlas]

I predicted on my forum this team would go 0-3 because they made so many changes.

We have a good team and had a shot to win it but just couldn't put em away.

On to Philly!

Good game Boob....

I have to admit RR your fans tonight were very loud. Much louder than any crowd at Mile High.

[Taco John]

We stopped them. That's all that matters.

17 points. SEVENTEEN. In their house.

Last year, our defense folds after Parker fumbles the ball. Today they stepped up and won the ballgame.

GOOOOOOOOONTHER!



Ok, that's a little better than "we're for real."

Your defense is improved. They've gone from being a complete joke to just a badly delivered punchline.

[Rocket 7]

I have to admit RR your fans tonight were very loud. Much louder than any crowd at Mile High.
They should have free beer night at Mile High also

[Taco John]

I have to admit RR your fans tonight were very loud. Much louder than any crowd at Mile High.



When's the last time you've been?

[2KBack]

there was also that huge rushing TD that was called back due to holding away from the play. Also those Drops by Lamont Jordan were huge. Both teams looked more balanced than last year though.

[DBroncos4life]

I have to admit RR your fans tonight were very loud. Much louder than any crowd at Mile High.


Its the MD 20/20.

[Raiders Rock]

I have to admit RR your fans tonight were very loud. Much louder than any crowd at Mile High.

Drunk probably.....


I hagte losing like that, when you get your ass kicked you get your ass kicked but when you snatch defeat from the jaws of victory that pisses me off.

We had em beat and gave it to them

[RedDread]

KC had a gift handed to them when the Moss "push off" was called. He just outleaped McNugget. That should have been 6.

Only 2 more weeks with McPasson as the #2 CB....god it can't come soon enough.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Ok, that's a little better than "we're for real."

Your defense is improved. They've gone from being a complete joke to just a badly delivered punchline.

You can crow all you want, but last year our defense chokes at the end of the game.

And our run defense was good again.

[Raiders Rock]

there was also that huge rushing TD that was called back due to holding away from the play. Also those Drops by Lamont Jordan were huge. Both teams looked more balanced than last year though.


That was a correct call blatant hold.... the push off call on Moss was absurd

[Bob's your Information Minister]

That was a correct call blatant hold.... the push off call on Moss was absurd

It was just as absurd as the no-call when Moss pushed off on Knight on his 63-yard TD.

A makeup no-call, IMO.

[DBroncos4life]

It was just as absurd as the no-call when Moss pushed off on Knight on his 63-yard TD.

A makeup no-call, IMO.



Oh my thats weak bob. He touched him he didn't push him. Its not Moss's fault that Knight can't run anymore.

[Atlas]

When's the last time you've been?

The last time I have been to a Bronco game was 1992 but it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out that the noise at Mile High is nothing to what it was. It embarrassing how quiet it is there.

I do afterall have audio on my TV.

[Raiders Rock]

It was just as absurd as the no-call when Moss pushed off on Knight on his 63-yard TD.

A makeup no-call, IMO.

He didn't push him Boob, he may of touched him but he surely didn't push him.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Oh my thats weak bob. He touched him he didn't push him. Its not Moss's fault that Knight can't run anymore.

It was a push off. I was incensed as hell.

Anyway, I really don't care. The Raiders scored 7 points in the second half on a one-play drive.

GOOOOOOONTHER!

[2KBack]

That was a correct call blatant hold.... the push off call on Moss was absurd

I agree on both, but it is an example of the Raiders mistakes being more of a factor than the KC defense.

[Raiders Rock]

It was a push off. I was incensed as hell.

Anyway, I really don't care. The Raiders scored 7 points in the second half on a one-play drive.

GOOOOOOONTHER!


Boob.... Now you guys won the game, but it wasn't what the Cheaps done that caused them to win that game, the Raiders shot themselves in the foot but still should have won that game.

Consider this your lucky night, the Raiders gave that game to KC on a Silver Platter and I don't blame yall one bit for taking it

[Taco John]

The last time I have been to a Bronco game was 1992 but it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out that the noise at Mile High is nothing to what it was. It embarrassing how quiet it is there.

I do afterall have audio on my TV.



I didn't think you'd been in awhile.

I'm always amazed to hear people bash how loud it gets in our stadium, only to find out they're relying on their television speakers to tell the story. Meanwhile, people who go to the games end up scratching their heads wondering what the hell?

The last three games I've been to over the past three years have been rocking experiences. I couldn't believe it in August when the entire stadium was roaring on third down of a meaningless preseason game against the 9ers. Here it was the fourth quarter, when you'd expect people to be going home, yet the entire stadium was into it. The wave went around the stadium 7 or eight times after that. I was an incredible experience.

The noise at the stadium isn't a problem, that's for sure. The people sitting at home badmouthing it... that's where its getting its repuation from.

[Atlas]

I didn't think you'd been in awhile.

I'm always amazed to hear people bash how loud it gets in our stadium, only to find out they're relying on their television speakers to tell the story. Meanwhile, people who go to the games end up scratching their heads wondering what the hell?

The last three games I've been to over the past three years have been rocking experiences. I couldn't believe it in August when the entire stadium was roaring on third down of a meaningless preseason game against the 9ers. Here it was the fourth quarter, when you'd expect people to be going home, and the entire stadium was into it. The wave went around the stadium 7 or eight times after that. I was an incredible experience.

The noise at the stadium isn't a problem, that's for sure. The people sitting at home badmouthing it... that's where its getting its repuation from.

You here that?? It's either crickets or fans cheering a Broncos TD.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Bull****.

We gave you a golden opportunity with that fumble.

The defense came up huge at the end. Oakland only turned the ball over once the entire game.

Yes, you dropped some passes. So did we.

Good game.

[Raiders Rock]

I agree on both, but it is an example of the Raiders mistakes being more of a factor than the KC defense.


Raiders lost that game because of their stupidity, muff punt being the main one Jano missing an easy Jano kick etc.

When you have lost for a while I guess you have to learn how to win again.... We will probably lose one more next week but then I think this team will come alive.

[2KBack]

I didn't think you'd been in awhile.

I'm always amazed to hear people bash how loud it gets in our stadium, only to find out they're relying on their television speakers to tell the story. Meanwhile, people who go to the games end up scratching their heads wondering what the hell?

The last three games I've been to over the past three years have been rocking experiences. I couldn't believe it in August when the entire stadium was roaring on third down of a meaningless preseason game against the 9ers. Here it was the fourth quarter, when you'd expect people to be going home, yet the entire stadium was into it. The wave went around the stadium 7 or eight times after that. I was an incredible experience.

The noise at the stadium isn't a problem, that's for sure. The people sitting at home badmouthing it... that's where its getting its repuation from.

I noticed that even though I couldn't hear any crowd noise on my TV that the cameras were shaking at times. I took that to mean that there must be some good noise, despite what I hear.

[Taco John]

You here that?? It's either crickets or fans cheering a Broncos TD.


Yeah, well... Let me know the next time you get to a game. I want to see the look on your face when you find out that it's a different story when you're there in person.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Yeah, they just showed the replay. Moss clearly places both his hands on the small of Knight's back. That's illegal.

[Northman]

I agree on both, but it is an example of the Raiders mistakes being more of a factor than the KC defense.


Yep. your totally right on with that. Week 1 featured the Chiefs taking advantage of a Jets team who couldnt handle a snap from center to Qb. Week 2 featured a Raider team who is chronically one of the most penalized and self destructing teams in the NFL. i'll worry about the chiefs ( :pigsfly: ) when they actually play a decent team.

[Atlas]

Yeah, well... Let me know the next time you get to a game. I want to see the look on your face when you find out that it's a different story when you're there in person.

Well, KC sounds real loud. The Faid tonight sounds real loud. Mile High today was not loud. They tried when K.C. was backed up to their the goaline but that was about the only point of the game where I said the crowd was loud.

[Taco John]

Well, KC sounds real loud. The Faid tonight sounds real loud. Mile High today was not loud. They tried when K.C. was backed up to their the goaline but that was about the only point of the game where I said the crowd was loud.


All I can speak to is my experience at the games that I've been to. I can't speak to what you're hearing through the television. I don't know the mechanics of how they set up the sound. I just know what I've personally experienced.

[Clockwork Orange]

Yeah, they just showed the replay. Moss clearly places both his hands on the small of Knight's back. That's illegal.

I guess when both of your supposed free agent saviors get torched on one play you've got to reach for some excuse.

[Taco John]

All I can speak to is my experience at the games that I've been to. I can't speak to what you're hearing through the television. I don't know the mechanics of how they set up the sound. I just know what I've personally experienced.



For what it's worth, the people who actually went to the game today are telling a vastly different story than the one you're telling. (http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=30604)

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I guess when both of your supposed free agent saviors get torched on one play you've got to reach for some excuse.

SEVENTEEN POINTS. GOOOOOOOOOOOONTHER!

[Clockwork Orange]

SEVENTEEN POINTS. GOOOOOOOOOOOONTHER!

And they scored 23......against the Fade. Looks like your offense is on it's way down even if your defense is improved. It was pretty interesting to watch them take 8 plays to go 17 yards after the muffed punt.

Surtain & Knight got abused by Moss, it happens. He's good for one of those per game and against the Broncos will be no different.

[NaptownChief]

This season is looking a lot like all the recent seasons where DontbeMessingHisPants and the such run their yap non-stop until the ball gets teed up and they are forced into hibernation shortly there after.

That is the good thing about Faider fans is you don't have to worry about seeing them October through January.

So what week to you think will put them back under their rock for the season?


Up coming schedule:

Week 3:@ Philly
Week 4:Dallas
bye
Week 6:Sandy Eggo
Week 7:Buffalo


I'm predicting week 4 after an 0-4 start. While unlikely but a 0-9 start until they get to Washington and Miami in week 11 and 12 is not completely out of the qestion.

[Ballhawk]

If the Raiders run the ball from the on the last two plays they win. Screw trying to get Jordan the ball on checkoffs, it does do enough to slow down the blitz. I don't care who won just bad play calling again in Oaktown.

[watermock]

I literally couldn't believe my eyes at the Oakland zoo last night.

Does every transvestite from San Fransisco sit in that Brown Hole, or are they their lovers?

You can't make up comedy like that. It looked like something out of Mad Max, Beyond Thunderdome. Shouldn't these morons be at some fake wrestling match?

[watermock]

If the Raiders run the ball from the on the last two plays they win. Screw trying to get Jordan the ball on checkoffs, it does do enough to slow down the blitz. I don't care who won just bad play calling again in Oaktown.

Moss was running wild deep all late in that game. Collins is a moron. If he just would of thrown it up for grabs, Moss would of snagged it. He's a collossal idiot. The thing about Moss is you never know where he will be. Be simply plays flag football and runs to the open space. You pitch it up and let him adjust to it.

BTW, for all you lurking Cheffies out there, your line looked like crap yesterday. Not saying they are as bad as ours, but it's taken a giant step back.

[rbackfactory80]

Props for taking your medicine. I think your run D is for real, it was very annoying all night. I was sweating my ass off at the end.


ahwwwwwwww rr says something nice to you and you compliment his team. Get over it Bob your d sucks and will be exposed.

[Tom A Hawk]

Ok, that's a little better than "we're for real."

Your defense is improved. They've gone from being a complete joke to just a badly delivered punchline.

Better than the D that only allowed 17 for the donkeys when you came to Arrowhead?

[DBroncos4life]

This season is looking a lot like all the recent seasons where DontbeMessingHisPants and the such run their yap non-stop until the ball gets teed up and they are forced into hibernation shortly there after.

That is the good thing about Faider fans is you don't have to worry about seeing them October through January.

So what week to you think will put them back under their rock for the season?


Up coming schedule:

Week 3:@ Philly
Week 4:Dallas
bye
Week 6:Sandy Eggo
Week 7:Buffalo


I'm predicting week 4 after an 0-4 start. While unlikely but a 0-9 start until they get to Washington and Miami in week 11 and 12 is not completely out of the qestion.



I would hate for that to happen. They could very well end up with Leinart and that could be bad. The last thing I want is them to have a smart leader with Porter and Moss to throw too.

[NaptownChief]

I'm always amazed at the "you didn't beat us, we beat ourselves..." garbage. In all walks of life whether we are talking about football, your career, golf, your relationship with your spouse or whatever not making mistakes is actually more important than doing great things. Yet most people only focus on the great things that are completed as the reality and the bad things are just irrelevant flukes.

An example for golfers....One guy hits a boring 245 yard drive down the middle every time, always hits the green, two putts everything for his par 72. Another guy blasts 320-340 yard drives, reaches all the par 5's in two get his occassional eagle, cards a lot of birdies but always yanks 3 or 4 drives per round in the woods, water or OB and shoots 79. The big swinger will walk away saying Mr Boring didn't beat me I beat myself. Well Mr. Boring had 18 holes of opportunity to "beat himself" also but didn't. Avoiding mistakes is every bit the talent or more so than creating the spectacular. It isn't as exciting so we like to discount it but that doesn't mean it isn't so.

Football is no different. Every team that steps on the field has 4 quarters worth of opportunities to "beat themselves" also and avoiding those mistakes is often times far more important than creating the spectacular a couple times a game.

[Ballhawk]

Oh you beat the fade, and in one week no one but Fade/Queef fan will remember how. The Fade just make themselves so predictable in crunch time. Jordan rips off runs of 5,10, 6 yards then they throw it 4 times ??? Just dumb playcalling. I dont care and I hope SD and OAK end up 0-3 after next week.

[24champ]

Im glad ron dayne can catch a ball unlike Jordan, cheifs gonna have problems.

[NaptownChief]

Im glad ron dayne can catch a ball unlike Jordan, cheifs gonna have problems.


You basing that on the 1 total catch he has in the last three seasons combined?

[watermock]

I'm always amazed at the "you didn't beat us, we beat ourselves..." garbage. In all walks of life whether we are talking about football, your career, golf, your relationship with your spouse or whatever not making mistakes is actually more important than doing great things. Yet most people only focus on the great things that are completed as the reality and the bad things are just irrelevant flukes.

An example for golfers....One guy hits a boring 245 yard drive down the middle every time, always hits the green, two putts everything for his par 72. Another guy blasts 320-340 yard drives, reaches all the par 5's in two get his occassional eagle, cards a lot of birdies but always yanks 3 or 4 drives per round in the woods, water or OB and shoots 79. The big swinger will walk away saying Mr Boring didn't beat me I beat myself. Well Mr. Boring had 18 holes of opportunity to "beat himself" also but didn't. Avoiding mistakes is every bit the talent or more so than creating the spectacular. It isn't as exciting so we like to discount it but that doesn't mean it isn't so.

Football is no different. Every team that steps on the field has 4 quarters worth of opportunities to "beat themselves" also and avoiding those mistakes is often times far more important than creating the spectacular a couple times a game.

I don't think I have ever seen an analogy so ludicrous. Your an idiot. The very idea to compare golf to football is ludicrous. To make an analogy is even worse. Good God Man.

Football is no different than golf? No No No...you don't have each 4 quarters dimwit. You have 4 days, and essentially, 72 quarters.

The game doesn't ride on emotion like football, it resides on control.

Your a moron.

[24champ]

You basing that on the 1 total catch he has in the last three seasons combined?

nope im basing that on the training camp reports....

[NaptownChief]

I don't think I have ever seen an analogy so ludicrous. Your an idiot. The very idea to compare golf to football is ludicrous. To make an analogy is even worse. Good God Man.

Football is no different than golf? No No No...you don't have each 4 quarters dimwit. You have 4 days, and essentially, 72 quarters.

The game doesn't ride on emotion like football, it resides on control.

Your a moron.



I'm glad it seems ludicrous to you my friend cause if our minds saw things even remotely similar I would be quite concerned.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

And they scored 23......against the Fade. Looks like your offense is on it's way down even if your defense is improved. It was pretty interesting to watch them take 8 plays to go 17 yards after the muffed punt.


Give me a break. We were without our pro bowl left tackle. The running game obviously suffered and the Raiders run D is CLEARLY improved so give them some credit.

Our passing game was fine, especially for an early season game. I was very pleased. Those 3's will turn into 7's by midseason.