Ian Gold thread

[Atlas]

Champ has his own thread
Dayne has his own thread

Gold needs one for his stellar play. Come on guys come in here and show him some love.

Come on bashers it won't huirt you to throw the "midget" some props.

[Clockwork Orange]

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[DrFate]

There were a number of guys on the defense worthy of threads:

Champ
DWill
Ian
Warren
Brown

All had nice games

[Denver Crush]

props

[Atlas]

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:KYLO_27QTnsJ:home.pages.at/mywalls/Ian%2520Gold.jpg

[Kaylore]

I suppose this is where all the "he's tiny" posts come in.

[DB-Freak]

Wilson needs one too.

[Broncoman13]

There were a number of guys on the defense worthy of threads:

Champ
DWill
Ian
Warren
Brown

All had nice games


Not sure why Al Wilson isn't getting props. He finally came to play and played quite well. He had a couple bad plays in the first half and one poor play in coverage in the 2nd half on Gates... but other than that he was Johnny on the Spot.

Courtdawg brought the heat as well! That's my adoptee right there! He needs to get some more snaps... certainly didn't see enough of him, but when he was on the field he was making plays!!!

[REB]

props

REB

1-2-3-:Broncos:!!!!!!!

[RhymesayersDU]

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This play alone qualified Ian for his own thread. He practically swallowed Brees whole.

[Broncoman13]

I suppose this is where all the "he's tiny" posts come in.


Big things, small packages!!! I promise you that Slap and SoCal both left their seats when Ian came in on that timely blitz/forced fumble!!! Ian is bringing it. He gets beat at the POA sometimes, but he plays smart with his size. He knows whats going on out there.

Now, if Ian can only have a talk with Pubiak and let him know that all these turnovers are for his offense to score some points so get your SHIAT together!!!

[Broncoman13]

One thing I still don't understand is why our guys don't go after the ball. Ian could have taken that ball right out of Brees' hand and probably run for days. I know he's coming in there at supersonic speed, but you don't see many ball slaps by the Broncos.

[Clockwork Orange]

Now, if Ian can only have a talk with Pubiak and let him know that all these turnovers are for his offense to score some points so get your SHIAT together!!!

No joke, the defense gave the offense primo field position to work with in the 3rd quarter and they did zero with it. If they took advantage of their opportunities it never would have come down to a last second field goal.

[DBroncos4life]

This play alone qualified Ian for his own thread. He practically swallowed Brees whole.



I don't like they way his helmet fits. He will never be a star

[RhymesayersDU]

No joke, the defense gave the offense primo field position to work with in the 3rd quarter and they did zero with it. If they took advantage of their opportunities it never would have come down to a last second field goal.
If the offense had scored more and penalties wouldn't have brought back 2 TD's, we would have seen BVP playing QB in the 4th. Jesus we left so many points on the field.

[labronco]

What about DJ?

[Atlas]

If the offense had scored more and penalties wouldn't have brought back 2 TD's, we would have seen BVP playing QB in the 4th. Jesus we left so many points on the field.

That's good though. I would rather see Denver move up and down the field and then stall or have a turnover than have the team just struggle all day long and come up with the victory at the end. Turnovers and missed FGs and penalties can be fixed much easier than an inept offense.

[Hulamau]

I don't like they way his helmet fits. He will never be a star


Speaking of Helmet fit whats with Kerry Collins? The rear of his helmet is high water and sticks out about 6 inches!

[CBF1]

Atleast he did not come up SHORT today :)

[bpc]

I can say that i've been happy about the Gold signing all along. I'm glad to see him get out there proving a lot of the posters on the Mane wrong. Him and Champ provided momentum turning plays.

[TheReverend]

Why not just revive the "Gold Bashers" thread? That would be reallllllllllllllly funny to read through again.

[Atlas]

Why not just revive the "Gold Bashers" thread? That would be reallllllllllllllly funny to read through again.


I don't want to rub it in on the Gold Bashers. I want them to jump on the Ian Gold bandwagon..... That being said none of them have showen up on this thread.

I don't think they want him to succeed. I think they are rooting for him to fail.

[bpc]

I agree Atlas. While happy about the TO, I think a lot of Gold bashers couldn't stand seeing him being the one forcing the play. He has some good defensive skills.

I think honestly though, our coaching staff hasn't found the right way to use our players so far. The 2nd half was a step in the right direction.

[TheReverend]

I don't want to rub it in on the Gold Bashers. I want them to jump on the Ian Gold bandwagon..... That being said none of them have showen up on this thread.

I don't think they want him to succeed. I think they are rooting for him to fail.

Too late I brought it back. Its funny watching you and me hold our own against a dozen jackals talking about how he cant stop the run... funny I saw him knife through and shut LT down WAYYYYYYYYYYY behind the line and make many other great plays.

[CBF1]

I don't want to rub it in on the Gold Bashers. I want them to jump on the Ian Gold bandwagon..... That being said none of them have showen up on this thread.

I don't think they want him to succeed. I think they are rooting for him to fail.

I am one of the midget bashers and I am here. Good to see him finally make some BIG plays today.

[Atlas]

I am one of the midget bashers and I am here. Good to see him finally make some BIG plays today.

I'm all repped out but I'll get you later!!

[broncosteven]

THe big plays all came in 2nd half after Coyer got SHanny's fist out o his butt. It all starts with the Dline, dropping them into coverage is BS. THe Dline gave a good O line all it could handle today. Gold played well but I didn't notice him (or anyone in D) in 1st half.

[Cito Pelon]

The NFL is all about attack, attack, attack. You can't play on your heels. The object is to get the other guy to play on his heels. We all saw the difference today at Mile High.

[FADERPROOF]

**** Michigan players.

[TheReverend]

**** Michigan players.

Poor Ohio fan.

[FADERPROOF]

Poor Ohio fan.

Poor us, who is ranked higher than Michigan is.

[TheReverend]

Poor us, who is ranked higher than Michigan is.

You missed the point of that post. Im a PSU fan. Ohio has nothing to complain about.

[2KBack]

The NFL is all about attack, attack, attack. You can't play on your heels. The object is to get the other guy to play on his heels. We all saw the difference today at Mile High.

Yep, I'd been waiting for the coaches to let these player loose, They have a LOAD of talent on that side of the ball, gotta let the players do what they do best. Ian is at his best when he is attacking, not sitting back waiting to get run over.

[Needa Pass Rush]

Ian trying to send Courtney to IR. What was he thinking?? ;D

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[SouthStndJunkie]

Props to Gold...games like he had today are the reason the Broncos wanted him back so badly.

SSJ

[Al Wilson]

Ian Gold rules. He is a playmaker that we lacked last year.

The bashers are all hiding of course.

Ian Gold will bring it every game!!!! Right Atlas?!
:Broncos: :Broncos: :Broncos: :Broncos:

[Mediator12]

Yep even the mighty alec and slap have not come to "set us Straight" with their lack of analytic skills to date. Donnie Spragan had zero tackles for loss, no FF, no FR, No sacks, and NO INT'S last year. Ian has 5 tackles for loss, a FF and FR, and a sack in two games. But Ian does NOT make plays! No seriously listen to me, he doesn't make plays he's a waste of money :vermeil:

[TheReverend]

Yep even the might alec and slap have not come to "set us Straight" with their lack of analytic skills to date. Donnie Spragan had zero tackles for loss, no FF, no FR, No sacks, and NO INT'S last year. Ian has 5 tackles for loss, a FF and FR, and a sack in two games. But Ian does NOT make plays! No seriously listen to me, he doesn't make plays :vermeil:

I really like Slap's point of views, just disagree about a few things. Im pretty sure we all do.

[Mediator12]

I really like Slap's point of views, just disagree about a few things. Im pretty sure we all do.

I think both alec AND slap are terrific analysts usually. I just do not understand their beef with Ian. I swear it is like the guy took their candy when they were young or something :bash:

[AlienBronco]

Since the Offense was not bringing it, the Defense had to get OFFENSIVE, and score some points. :militia:

[DB-Freak]

Yep even the mighty alec and slap have not come to "set us Straight" with their lack of analytic skills to date. Donnie Spragan had zero tackles for loss, no FF, no FR, No sacks, and NO INT'S last year. Ian has 5 tackles for loss, a FF and FR, and a sack in two games. But Ian does NOT make plays! No seriously listen to me, he doesn't make plays he's a waste of money :vermeil:
I really like how Ian is playing and how he is used this year.

To be accurate he has 4 stuffs already! His personal high is 4 stuffs and he already tied it in two games.

To be honest Med, I don't remember him being a playmaker like this, but how they are using he is sure turning to into one.

[GreatBronco16]

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:KYLO_27QTnsJ:home.pages.at/mywalls/Ian%2520Gold.jpg

LOL

[Mile High Shack]

Ian is fine until about week 10 when his small frame starts to wear down

[Mediator12]

Ian is fine until about week 10 when his small frame starts to wear down

So you say. In 2002, 4.5 of his 6.5 sacks were in the last half of the year. 3.5 were in the last three weeks. He also had 5 tackles for loss in his last four fames. to go with those sacks.

As I said before, Spragan had ZERO sacks, Zero tackles for loss, and Zero INT's last year. We replaced below Average with playmaker.

[bendog]

Yeah, but we didn't address one of the two biggest weaknesses - guard. The other was pass rush. We'll just have to see how it shakes out.

[DB-Freak]

4 stuffs not 5 stuffs dammit Mediator.

Ian Gold has been great so far this year.

I wish we can also unleash DJ like Ian. All I know is DJ was an upfield player in college.

[Mediator12]

Yeah, but we didn't address one of the two biggest weaknesses - guard. The other was pass rush. We'll just have to see how it shakes out.

Neither did INDY, GB, and others. OG is the only position that does NOT have first round Draft picks usually and therefore can be addressed easier and Cheaper. I really think if PJ Alexander was not such a Screwup he would be starting today. I just Wish they saw Clabo as a G versus a T. He is much better inside where he played in College too.

[Mediator12]

4 stuffs not 5 stuffs dammit Mediator.

Ian Gold has been great so far this year.

I wish we can also unleash DJ like Ian. All I know is DJ was an upfield player in college.

Sorry dude the sack Counts!

[DivineLegion]

I did have some issues with Ian early in the game when Walls had his guy wrapped up Ian came in and it looked like he attemted to hit him or something he dropped his shoulder and it looked like he hit a wall he went no where and the reciver dragged walls 5 extra yards...it took him rapeing Brees to regain my respect...

[-Slap-]

I don't want to rub it in on the Gold Bashers. I want them to jump on the Ian Gold bandwagon..... That being said none of them have showen up on this thread.

I don't think they want him to succeed. I think they are rooting for him to fail.
There was a brief period there when I thought you might not be that stupid. I see I was mistaken.

[Mediator12]

Well, DJ and AL both missed tackles on LT during there two scoring drives that would have made it third and Long instead of third and 4-6 yards. Wilson also missed one that Michael turner got 6 instead of 1 yd on. Ian did NOT miss a Tackle officially yesterday.

[-Slap-]

This play alone qualified Ian for his own thread. He practically swallowed Brees whole.
This was a great play. I'm glad the refs didn't tag him 15 yards for hitting the QB in the head, though.

If Ian relaxes out there and lets the game come to him, his natural speed will allow him to make some plays. Big improvement over the guy who ran himself out of the play so much in the past.

[bendog]

ps, comparing Ian's stats to spragan's is bogus as in Boob the info minister.

[Mediator12]

This was a great play. I'm glad the refs didn't tag him 15 yards for hitting the QB in the head, though.

If Ian relaxes out there and lets the game come to him, his natural speed will allow him to make some plays. Big improvement over the guy who ran himself out of the play so much in the past.

I agree. Wilson ran himself out of two plays yesterday, but Ian was very Good. I think these guys are going to get to crank it up next week and I hope Trent Gets his ass kicked :militia:

[-Slap-]

Ian Gold rules. He is a playmaker that we lacked last year.

The bashers are all hiding of course.

Ian Gold will bring it every game!!!! Right Atlas?!
:Broncos: :Broncos: :Broncos: :Broncos:
How goddamn funny is it to see this liitle bastard running around banging his dick on the table? You were crying like a ****ing bitch in the chatroom yesterday. You wanted to fire the whole team and you told Taco John to go blow Larry Coyer. Now you're talking **** about "bashers"? Go suck a dick, you asshole.

[Mediator12]

ps, comparing Ian's stats to spragan's is bogus as in Boob the info minister.

Not really. Ian was playing "sam" on the sack and the tackle for loss. He was lined up over the TE both times. Believe me bendog, I have a little more analytic skill than Bob.

[DBroncos4life]

How goddamn funny is it to see this liitle bastard running around banging his dick on the table? You were crying like a ****ing b**** in the chatroom yesterday. You wanted to fire the whole team and you told Taco John to go blow Larry Coyer. Now you're talking **** about "bashers"? Go suck a dick, you a-hole.



I wasted so much rep on dumb trolls.

[Rock Chalk]

I think both alec AND slap are terrific analysts usually. I just do not understand their beef with Ian. I swear it is like the guy took their candy when they were young or something :bash:
DJ is a better weakside linebacker. Ian will make plays from time to time, but too often gets swallowed up by blockers and his blitzing isn't stellar. He has no swim move and if someone pi****p the blitz, he cant get around it.

DJ should be playing weakside, and a true Sam LB should be found.

[Atlas]

Yeah, but we didn't address one of the two biggest weaknesses - guard. The other was pass rush. We'll just have to see how it shakes out.

what's that have to do with ian gold sucking??

Denver had the guard they wanted but he destroyed his knee on a 3 wheeler.

[bendog]

Not really. Ian was playing "sam" on the sack and the tackle for loss. He was lined up over the TE both times. Believe me bendog, I have a little more analytic skill than Bob.
Still bogus. This defense is different from last year's. That's not a diss on anyplayer. But Spragan got the TE most of the time, and Ian doesn't.

[Atlas]

Still bogus. This defense is different from last year's. That's not a diss on anyplayer. But Spragan got the TE most of the time, and Ian doesn't.
Compare this LBing unit to last years do you see an improvement. Of course you do why?? Because of Gold.

[Mediator12]

DJ is a better weakside linebacker. Ian will make plays from time to time, but too often gets swallowed up by blockers and his blitzing isn't stellar. He has no swim move and if someone pi****p the blitz, he cant get around it.

DJ should be playing weakside, and a true Sam LB should be found.

Again, so you say. DJ is a great athlete but he was no playmaker last year. He was around the ball and got swallowed whole on his blitzes. Ian forced the INT in Mia by hitting Frerotte as he threw, he forced another bad throw that Ferguson had a chance to INT and did not.

Ian took out two blockers yesterday at the POA and DJ wiffed on the open field tackle. Get a clue alec.

[Rock Chalk]

Again, so you say. DJ is a great athlete but he was no playmaker last year. He was around the ball and got swallowed whole on his blitzes. Ian forced the INT in Mia by hitting Frerotte as he threw, he forced another bad throw that Ferguson had a chance to INT and did not.

Ian took out two blockers yesterday at the POA and DJ wiffed on the open field tackle. Get a clue alec.
:stupid:

DJ wasnt a playmaker? Put the pipe down or pass it.

[Mile High Shack]

So you say. In 2002, 4.5 of his 6.5 sacks were in the last half of the year. 3.5 were in the last three weeks. He also had 5 tackles for loss in his last four fames. to go with those sacks.

As I said before, Spragan had ZERO sacks, Zero tackles for loss, and Zero INT's last year. We replaced below Average with playmaker.

what about tackles

I'm more concerned about him trying to run around blockers later in the year b/c his body is tired from the pounding

[Atlas]

Again, so you say. DJ is a great athlete but he was no playmaker last year. He was around the ball and got swallowed whole on his blitzes. Ian forced the INT in Mia by hitting Frerotte as he threw, he forced another bad throw that Ferguson had a chance to INT and did not.

Ian took out two blockers yesterday at the POA and DJ wiffed on the open field tackle. Get a clue alec.

I agree. D.J. was a tackling machine but not a playmaker but I think that is soley because he was a rookie last year and just reacted to what was going on. When he learns the game he will be able to anticipate(like Champ) and he will make some huge game turning kind of plays. He just needs more experience.

[DBroncos4life]

Well I think Gold will help us out, but if I had my way I would still have DJ at WLB and found a way to get Peterson from San Fran. That guy is crazy good. 3 sacks this year already and the guy is golden in pass coverage. There I go again dreaming :clown:

[Mediator12]

what about tackles

I'm more concerned about him trying to run around blockers later in the year b/c his body is tired from the pounding

He had fifty over the last eight games. and the run defense was stellar except at SD where LT went off.

[BRONCCRUSHFAN]

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Come here son, you're my little puppy now.

[Mediator12]

Well I think Gold will help us out, but if I had my way I would still have DJ at WLB and found a way to get Peterson from San Fran. That guy is crazy good. 3 sacks this year already and the guy is golden in pass coverage. There I go again dreaming :clown:

You have 50 spare million under the salary cap to pay a guy that had a potential career ending injury in his achilles last year?

[DBroncos4life]

You have 50 spare million under the salary cap to pay a guy that had a potential career ending injury in his achilles last year?


I said I was dreaming damn man. Also it doesn't look like it is career threating anymore, well no more then Golds ACL. Like I said before my only real problem with Gold is his contract, other then that I'm fine with him.

[Mediator12]

:stupid:

DJ wasnt a playmaker? Put the pipe down or pass it.

He had four tackles for loss, a FF, a Sack, and an INT. He was not the playmaker that everyone here espoused. He got destroyed blitzing earlier in the year versus CIN, CAR, and TB. These are not teams with above average OL's. That Forced the playcalling to change drastically. DJ and Spragan were completely ineffective at Pressuring the QB at all last year.

As for the pipe, alec, are you stoned currently or is this a level playing field :blossom:

[DBroncos4life]

We should have drafted Demorrio Williams instead of LeSewer. He's playing strong side and hes on pace for 144 tackles :thumbsup:

[Mediator12]

We should have drafted Demorrio Williams instead of LeSewer. He's playing strong side and hes on pace for 144 tackles :thumbsup:

We would have if we did not get DJ. He was the Number two Choice at LB. Coyer really liked that kid at the Combine. He interviewed extremely well.

[bendog]

yeah, I'm not down on shanny's drafting, but the scouting report on Lesewer should've been, can't cover man and is a marginal safety prospect.

[DBroncos4life]

We would have if we did not get DJ. He was the Number two Choice at LB. Coyer really liked that kid at the Combine. He interviewed extremely well.



Should have drafted both of them dammit!!!!

[-Slap-]

The more experienced you are, the more the game slows down for you. I think the toughest thing for guys like Ian and DJ is to slow themselves down just a little bit because linebackers are hyper aggressive from birth. All fast linebackers go through a period where they overrun the football a lot and most good offenses will incorporate enough misdirection to exploit that in a young player. Who would you rather run a reverse against, Tom Jackson in his 15th season or Ian Gold in his third?

Ian's timing his blitzes much better now, which is key for him. He's also coming a lot harder than he did in the past. He got picked up on a blitz last week and the collision with the back was epic. He didn't make the play, but he totally sold out trying to make it happen.

Its funny that all criticism of Gold was distilled down to make it seem like my only complaint with him was his size. The previously mentioned Tom Jackson was an undersized linebacker, too. In fact, many years ago, around 1976, before Ian Gold and many of the posters on this board were even born, many people thought Tom Jackson's days in the NFL were numbered. Many teams began utilizing a two tight end set as a base package. Some League observers thought that the 5'11", 220 pound linebacker from Louisville would get manhandled lined up over the tight end. It didn't work out that way, though. Instead TJ went to the Pro Bowl in 77, 78 and 79. Speed, intelligence and a pair of huge, strong hands were TJ's attributes.

Gold doesn't have a pair of inhumanly strong mitts like Jackson, but he does have a suddenness that's uncoachable. Now that's he's playing within the system and allowing the plays to come to him, he should be very successful. I don't care if he gets run over sometimes. I'm not expecting him to stuff the run like a two-down MLB. I just want consistency and I want to see him around the football as much as I did yesterday.

[DB-Freak]

The more experienced you are, the more the game slows down for you. I think the toughest thing for guys like Ian and DJ is to slow themselves down just a little bit because linebackers are hyper aggressive from birth. All fast linebackers go through a period where they overrun the football a lot and most good offenses will incorporate enough misdirection to exploit that in a young player. Who would you rather run a reverse against, Tom Jackson in his 15th season or Ian Gold in his third?

Ian's timing his blitzes much better now, which is key for him. He's also coming a lot harder than he did in the past. He got picked up on a blitz last week and the collision with the back was epic. He didn't make the play, but he totally sold out trying to make it happen.

Its funny that all criticism of Gold was distilled down to make it seem like my only complaint with him was his size. The previously mentioned Tom Jackson was an undersized linebacker, too. In fact, many years ago, around 1976, before Ian Gold and many of the posters on this board were even born, many people thought Tom Jackson's days in the NFL were numbered. Many teams began utilizing a two tight end set as a base package. Some League observers thought that the 5'11", 220 pound linebacker from Louisville would get manhandled lined up over the tight end. It didn't work out that way, though. Instead TJ went to the Pro Bowl in 77, 78 and 79. Speed, intelligence and a pair of huge, strong hands were TJ's attributes.

Gold doesn't have a pair of inhumanly strong mitts like Jackson, but he does have a suddenness that's uncoachable. Now that's he's playing within the system and allowing the plays to come to him, he should be very successful. I don't care if he gets run over sometimes. I'm not expecting him to stuff the run like a two-down MLB. I just want consistency and I want to see him around the football as much as I did yesterday.

Awesome post dude.

I thought of the same of Al in his first two years. The guy knew where the ball was, but overran it and kinda drove me crazy at times.

[-Slap-]

He had four tackles for loss, a FF, a Sack, and an INT. He was not the playmaker that everyone here espoused. He got destroyed blitzing earlier in the year versus CIN, CAR, and TB. These are not teams with above average OL's. That Forced the playcalling to change drastically. DJ and Spragan were completely ineffective at Pressuring the QB at all last year.

As for the pipe, alec, are you stoned currently or is this a level playing field :blossom:
The days of having LT or Andre Tippett lined up on the edge with everybody in the stadium knowing he's coming are a thing of the past. Blocking schemes are more sophisticated now and left (and right) tackles have simply become bigger and better. My point is that the key to success blitzing off the edge now is more about timing. Not just timing from the player, but from the coaching staff. Its certainly nice when you call a defensive play and your dog comes free totally untouched.

[DB-Freak]

To be fair Mediator,

DJ had 10 stuffs and 7 pass defended in his rookie year. DJ was great at pass coverage totally unexpected out of him from me. Ian has yet to surpass those numbers and he has had 6 years under belt unlike DJ.

[Rascal]

Did anybody remember that attempted tackle by Ian where he simply threw a shoulder into the guy? I remember yelling on that play...just can't remember who had the ball.

[Mediator12]

Did anybody remember that attempted tackle by Ian where he simply threw a shoulder into the guy? I remember yelling on that play...just can't remember who had the ball.

um, that was DJ.

[Al Wilson]

How goddamn funny is it to see this liitle bastard running around banging his dick on the table? You were crying like a ****ing b**** in the chatroom yesterday. You wanted to fire the whole team and you told Taco John to go blow Larry Coyer. Now you're talking **** about "bashers"? Go suck a dick, you a-hole.
Everyone was ****ing crying the first half you dumb ******!

You too do bash so don't give me this bull**** you piece of ****..

GO **** YOURSELF WHILE YOU'RE AT IT **** HEAD

[-Slap-]

Everyone was ****ing crying the first half you dumb ******!

You too do bash so don't give me this bull**** you piece of ****..

GO **** YOURSELF WHILE YOU'RE AT IT **** HEAD
Taco should have banned you like he said he would, you ****ing queer.

[DB-Freak]

DJ made more plays then you credited him for Mediator.

Just had to get this through.

[Al Wilson]

Taco should have banned you like he said he would, you ****ing queer.
You're a ******. Get a life.

Sure I bashed, but so do you. So stop with this non sense you retard.

And why should I be banned? I was joking with TJ, it's not like I meant it.

The one who should be banned is you because you started this ****.

[TheReverend]

I think both alec AND slap are terrific analysts usually. I just do not understand their beef with Ian. I swear it is like the guy took their candy when they were young or something :bash:

Wait a second, Alec has had a football analysis?

[BroncoInferno]

So you say. In 2002, 4.5 of his 6.5 sacks were in the last half of the year. 3.5 were in the last three weeks. He also had 5 tackles for loss in his last four fames. to go with those sacks.

As I said before, Spragan had ZERO sacks, Zero tackles for loss, and Zero INT's last year. We replaced below Average with playmaker.

The Gold bashers have rarely used logic in their criticism of him. They just make fun of his size, tell us he's poor at stopping the run and will wear down at the end of the season--even though there is nothing substantive to back up any of these claims.

[Mediator12]

DJ made more plays then you credited him for Mediator.

Just had to get this through.

It all depends on the definition. I use what I have been told, you use something Different. It's all good. I love DJ and he started slow last year too. He was really lucky in pass defense early in the year and then came on very well. I think he is the most talented LB we have by far. Talent does not= production or playmaking though. He will excel once he gets the hang of the new defense.

[DB-Freak]

It all depends on the definition. I use what I have been told, you use something Different. It's all good. I love DJ and he started slow last year too. He was really lucky in pass defense early in the year and then came on very well. I think he is the most talented LB we have by far. Talent does not= production or playmaking though. He will excel once he gets the hang of the new defense.
Stuff=Tackle for loss.

And they certainly got Ian's stats correct as it was same as you stated.

Plus, Bendog I think at end of last season pointed out that DJ had double digit tackle for loss.

Plus Will DJ ever change? He was always short armed when it came to shedding blocks even college.

We'll see but DJ made plays. And I wouldnt judge stats until the season is over anyway.

[-Slap-]

I think both alec AND slap are terrific analysts usually. I just do not understand their beef with Ian. I swear it is like the guy took their candy when they were young or something :bash:
I'm 14 years older than Ian. There's no way he could have come for my candy at an age when I was still considered young. I would have paddled him and sent him home to mamma.

[TheReverend]

I'm 14 years older than Ian. There's no way he could have come for my candy at an age when I was still considered young. I would have paddled him and sent him home to mamma.

I never figured you for one to fantasize about spanking little black boys.

[Florida_Bronco]

I must be in the minority...I've always liked Gold

I think he is a very solid player.

[-Slap-]

I never figured you for one to fantasize about spanking little black boys.
Interesting extrapolation.

[TheReverend]

Interesting extrapolation.

I'm probably just a huge pervert.

[-Slap-]

I'm probably just a huge pervert.
Turn it into a positive. Look at Larry Flynt.

[TheReverend]

Turn it into a positive. Look at Larry Flynt.

If only I were crippled...

[-Slap-]

If only I were crippled...
He wound up in a wheelchair by getting gutshot. There's gotta be an easier way.

[Rock Chalk]

The Gold bashers have rarely used logic in their criticism of him. They just make fun of his size, tell us he's poor at stopping the run and will wear down at the end of the season--even though there is nothing substantive to back up any of these claims.
Look tweedle dick. Im one of the only ****ing people around here that does use logic. And for every "good" play Ian makes, there are two other missed talkes or whiffs out there. You people just dont look at the bad apparently.

I have seen Ian make an interception at a critical time in the game and I have seen him over pursue his gap responsibility and cost us a touchdown. The guy is hit and miss. Dj is still young and when all is said and done, will be far better than Ian ever could hope to be. And what then? We wil have him playing out of position to make room on the roster for an undersized LB who has trouble getting off his blocks.

It just makes more sense to get a true Sam LB and move DJ back to weakside where he WILL be a ****ing stud playmaker.

Until then, DJ is going to struggle and we will have wasted the best talent in the LB unit in years. :pity:

[SoCalBronco]

Look tweedle dick. Im one of the only ****ing people around here that does use logic. And for every "good" play Ian makes, there are two other missed talkes or whiffs out there. You people just dont look at the bad apparently.

I have seen Ian make an interception at a critical time in the game and I have seen him over pursue his gap responsibility and cost us a touchdown. The guy is hit and miss. Dj is still young and when all is said and done, will be far better than Ian ever could hope to be. And what then? We wil have him playing out of position to make room on the roster for an undersized LB who has trouble getting off his blocks.

It just makes more sense to get a true Sam LB and move DJ back to weakside where he WILL be a ****ing stud playmaker.

Until then, DJ is going to struggle and we will have wasted the best talent in the LB unit in years. :pity:

Please spread reputation around before giving it to AlecRaenos again.

[Rock Chalk]

Man I know med likes the guy, for whatever reason, and i got much respect for med's opinion, but Im not sold. I LOVED Ian when he was here, but after watching DJ last year I saw what we were really missing on the weakside with Ian.

[Odysseus]

I has happy to see Gold come back.

I still want to see more from Ian. One game does not a season make. Al Wilson played out of his skull for this team and despite his mistakes very limited props.

This defense is finding ways to get it done but they are still struggling. The offense is flat out killing them with performance errors.

[BroncoInferno]

This thread needs a bump after another high impact game from lil' Ian. Seems his performance has gotten lost in the shuffle due to Pryce's domination. His strip of Diaper Boy opened the flood gates (and Vermeil's tear ducts).

[Pat Bowlen]

For the people who are raving about Gold: do you think DJ would have done better or worse had he been playing weakside?

[Broncoman13]

SoCal... I'm real curious what you have to say about Ian now. I know you threw more than one gasket when we brought him back. So far, he's worth EVERY PENNY! He's making plays and we needed a playmaker! Ian and Courtdawg is becoming a pretty good 1-2. Ian tells Courtney "I'm going to knock the ball loose", Courtney tells Ian "And I'll recover it!"

It's a beautiful thing right now... mainly b/c you can't tell who is the MVP of the defense. Trev is playing great football. Champ is out of his mind good. Ian is proving to be our biggest play maker. Al Wilson is making play after play. Hell, DJ stepped up big last night too and let the team in tackles if I'm not mistaken! I can't remember a time in the past when we had SO many players on D stepping up and making plays. Well yeah I can, but it's been awhile and it feels good!

[Spider]

For the people who are raving about Gold: do you think DJ would have done better or worse had he been playing weakside?
About the same but DJ has the size to go Sam , i said when he first made the Move he will give us what we hvent had on D since Romo left ............

[Broncoman13]

For the people who are raving about Gold: do you think DJ would have done better or worse had he been playing weakside?

I think he would have done about the same. The point is Ian was said to be a weakness. He's allowed DJ to move to the strong side (anybody notice that Gonzo didn't do shiat and DJ played his best game of the season so far) and gives us another playmaker at LB. To this point he's more than proved himself. Big plays in the last two games and he held his own in the opener!

[bendog]

I want to see us match up with Indy. Essentially it came down, capwise, to Ian or a guard. I'll be happy if I'm wrong. I think/thought pass rush is the key to beating payaton. He doesn't like to get hit, and will fold, unlike Brady, the Duke, Morton or his little bro. I hope Coyer can scheme it with Ian and the Brown's taking the cap for Den's front 4. But, Ian's played lights out for two games.

PS, Imo this take is synonomous with the thread I'm gonna start on props for Jake, except I don't didn't see any option other than Jake, unless Shanny wanted to start over again like he did after the Duke hung them up and SOB melted down.

[BroncoInferno]

I want to see us match up with Indy. Essentially it came down, capwise, to Ian or a guard. I'll be happy if I'm wrong. I think/thought pass rush is the key to beating payaton. He doesn't like to get hit, and will fold, unlike Brady, the Duke, Morton or his little bro. I hope Coyer can scheme it with Ian and the Brown's taking the cap for Den's front 4. But, Ian's played lights out for two games.

Even in the Miami game he was one of the few bright spots, registering 3 tackles for loss.

[Mile High Shack]

I'm not going to prop him b/c I'm afraid of any reverse mojo I could cause

so the midget will wear down by week 10

:)

(p.s. please read between the lines as to what I'm saying per the first line of my post)

[Broncoman13]

I'm not going to prop him b/c I'm afraid of any reverse mojo I could cause

so the midget will wear down by week 10

:)

(p.s. please read between the lines as to what I'm saying per the first line of my post)


NEGATIVE REP!!!!!!!!!!

:welcome:

[bendog]

Even in the Miami game he was one of the few bright spots, registering 3 tackles for loss.
I've erased all memories of that game. I saw it coming, and I've decided to ignore it. Like my mother in law.

[Broncoman13]

NEGATIVE REP!!!!!!!!!!

:welcome:


LOL Shack..... last time I did that I ended up getting a Negative rep myself... and I was only freaking kidding! :bash:

[Mile High Shack]

LOL Shack..... last time I did that I ended up getting a Negative rep myself... and I was only freaking kidding! :bash:

LOL
I positived repped you this time big boy ;)

:hitself:

[Rascal]

He is still a midget.

[bendog]

But a wiwey wascal widget.

[fontaine]

We should have drafted Demorrio Williams instead of LeSewer. He's playing strong side and hes on pace for 144 tackles :thumbsup:

Fontaine wrote:
04-05-2004, 02:40 AM
3b. Cedric Cobbs/Julius Jones (if no RB picked so far) or Demorrio Williams LB (if no LB picked so far)


It's a rare occassion when I'm right, so let me take this opportunity to gloat!

:gimme:

[Rascal]

But a wiwey wascal widget.

LOL!!!

[Atlas]

For the people who are raving about Gold: do you think DJ would have done better or worse had he been playing weakside?

DJ never made the plays Gold has made this year.

The fact is both Wilson and Williams are both better LBs than Gold but even though Gold might get over powered he offers something that both Williams and Wilson don't. All the LBers played well tonight. I don't know why some people refuse to give Gold his Props.

Hey Bowlen if you don't like Gold you shouldn't have signed him.

[Atlas]

I want to see us match up with Indy. Essentially it came down, capwise, to Ian or a guard. I'll be happy if I'm wrong. I think/thought pass rush is the key to beating payaton. He doesn't like to get hit, and will fold, unlike Brady, the Duke, Morton or his little bro. I hope Coyer can scheme it with Ian and the Brown's taking the cap for Den's front 4. But, Ian's played lights out for two games.
.

Denver had the guard they wanted to get. He just tore his knee up in an accident. Signing Gold made little or no difference. Just because you wanted a guard doesn't mean that Shanny would have used that money and went out and got one. Shanny never spends money on the Oline.