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HEAV
09-15-2005, 03:38 PM
Bailey practices, says he'll play Sunday
By EDDIE PELLS, AP Sports Writer
September 15, 2005

DENVER (AP) -- Broncos cornerback Champ Bailey, who hasn't missed a game in his seven-year NFL career, practiced in pads Thursday and said he expects to keep the streak going Sunday against San Diego despite a dislocated shoulder.

``If I'm in pads during the week, I'm probably going to play,'' Bailey said. ``So, there's no doubt that I'll probably be out there. As long as I don't have any setbacks, I'll be fine.''

Bailey has started all 97 regular-season games since he entered the league in 1999. Last week against Miami, he dislocated his left shoulder making a tackle in the third quarter.

He was listed as questionable and coach Mike Shanahan said he figured Bailey might miss a week or two.

But after checking with trainers early Thursday, Bailey decided to put on pads and practice with his arm in a harness to support the injured shoulder.

``They always give you the things that could happen, the risks you take,'' Bailey said. ``At the same time, I'm aware of that and I don't really care. I just want to play football and help us win.''

Early in the workout, he tried to jam receiver Ashley Lelie, who hit back hard, but didn't cause Bailey any pain.

``It was nonexistent, most of it,'' Bailey said of the pain. ``There were moments where I turned certain ways, or put my arm certain ways where I could feel it, but nothing real extreme.''

Shanahan said Bailey ``looked pretty good'' on the practice field and that he was surprised the All-Pro cornerback could return so quickly.

``It gives you an idea of how tough he is,'' Shanahan said.

Nobody was as surprised as Bailey himself.

``I was a little shocked with the recovery I made so fast,'' Bailey said. ``I didn't think I'd be able to do anything today. I thought maybe tomorrow, but not today.''

Running back Mike Anderson, who left last week's game with a rib injury, attended a funeral Thursday and did not practice. He was listed as questionable and will return to practice Friday.

rbackfactory80
09-15-2005, 03:42 PM
Wanting to be out there is only natural for a true competitor but I hope he does not make injury adjustments, which lead to bad angles and also missed tackles.

TheReverend
09-15-2005, 03:42 PM
...and thats why Im the proud owner of a Champ Bailey jersey. Always count on him.

DBroncos4life
09-15-2005, 03:42 PM
Thats good news. We wouldn't want this to happen

DST Broncos, DST DEN

News: DenverBroncos.com reports that with Champ Bailey possibly sidelined for the team's Week 2 game vs. San Diego, rookies Darrent Williams and Domonique Foxworth could start.

Analysis: If Bailey misses the game, the Chargers' receivers could have a field day against Denver.

Bronco9798
09-15-2005, 03:42 PM
I hope he can play but if he re-injures it he could be out a lot longer. I'm just curious if this is a wise decision.

DBroncos4life
09-15-2005, 03:44 PM
I expect two picks from him :strong:

rbackfactory80
09-15-2005, 03:46 PM
Thats why you are the anti bloodsunday

Rulon Velvet Jones
09-15-2005, 03:46 PM
Jesus, that dude's tough.

Kinda reminds me of the coach from Beavis and Butthead.

Buzzcut.

http://www.pathguy.com/buzzcut.jpg

Raiders Rock
09-15-2005, 03:47 PM
gonna be hell to lift that arm and defend a pass, look for SD to go over the top and make him stretch it out

DBroncos4life
09-15-2005, 03:48 PM
Thats why you are the anti bloodsunday


thank you

Bronx33
09-15-2005, 03:50 PM
I hope he isn't pushing it....

DBroncos4life
09-15-2005, 03:52 PM
hes fine.

elsid13
09-15-2005, 03:55 PM
gonna be hell to lift that arm and defend a pass, look for SD to go over the top and make him stretch it out


There a chance of it, but I more worried when he goes to tackle someone. If the shoulder is popped back in and neither muscle or nerve is damaged, motion should not be problem.

Raiders Rock
09-15-2005, 04:01 PM
There a chance of it, but I more worried when he goes to tackle someone. If the shoulder is popped back in and neither muscle or nerve is damaged, motion should not be problem.

What did he do get pancaked by a TE?

clint7
09-15-2005, 04:01 PM
``They always give you the things that could happen, the risks you take,'' Bailey said. ``At the same time, I'm aware of that and I don't really care. I just want to play football and help us win.''

:thumbs:

Rock Chalk
09-15-2005, 04:03 PM
Shanahan said Bailey ``looked pretty good'' on the practice field and that he was surprised the All-Pro cornerback could return so quickly.

Is it me, or does that sound like spin?

Come to think of it, after that first game, its gonna be a while before I believe anything Shanny says.

Raiders Rock
09-15-2005, 04:05 PM
Is it me, or does that sound like spin?

Come to think of it, after that first game, its gonna be a while before I believe anything Shanny says.

I tried to tell you that and you wouldn't listen

2KBack
09-15-2005, 04:06 PM
Champ is a football player, not just a guy who plays football. I love having this guy on our team.

Rock Chalk
09-15-2005, 04:06 PM
I tried to tell you that and you wouldn't listen
:ban:

elsid13
09-15-2005, 04:06 PM
What did he do get pancaked by a TE?

If you are asking how he hurt himself, he went low to tackle WR. The player came down on his shoulder and he hit the infield at the right angle to pop it out. I did the same thing, and it a b@tch. There a pic of it in the thread that show the game.


the photo

http://images.nfl.com/u/ap/photos/PPS107091115_lower.jpg

Rigs11
09-15-2005, 04:07 PM
Who will Bailey be covering? Mcardell?

Raiders Rock
09-15-2005, 04:11 PM
If you are asking how he hurt himself, he went low to tackle WR. The player came down on his shoulder and he hit the infield at the right angle to pop it out. I did the same thing, and it a b@tch. There a pic of it in the thread that show the game.


the photo

http://images.nfl.com/u/ap/photos/PPS107091115_lower.jpg

Don't think that Dirt Pile helped alot either

dlow187
09-15-2005, 04:12 PM
If you are asking how he hurt himself, he went low to tackle WR. The player came down on his shoulder and he hit the infield at the right angle to pop it out. I did the same thing, and it a b@tch. There a pic of it in the thread that show the game.



he went low to tackle ronnie brown

2KBack
09-15-2005, 04:12 PM
Don't think that Dirt Pile helped alot either

nope, and it added a nice bloody gash for color

elsid13
09-15-2005, 04:16 PM
Don't think that Dirt Pile helped alot either


The field was crap, think the Vet-like. But it really was just bad luck that WR hit Bailey's shoulder at the right angle. But Champ is tough SOB, and I'm waiting for someone to question the heart of this team. Player like this set the attuide for the team and the season. Tough Mean and willing to play with pain, that is player.

Raiders Rock
09-15-2005, 04:19 PM
The field was crap, think the Vet-like. But it really was just bad luck that WR hit Bailey's shoulder at the right angle. But Champ is tough SOB, and I'm waiting for someone to question the heart of this team. Player like this set the attuide for the team and the season. Tough Mean and willing to play with pain, that is player.

Well, Chump has never been one to be hurt, pretty durable player

elsid13
09-15-2005, 04:20 PM
Well, Chump has never been one to be hurt, pretty durable player


Unlike Woodson ;D

Raiders Rock
09-15-2005, 04:28 PM
Unlike Woodson ;D


Yea but I think Woodson is better ^5

elsid13
09-15-2005, 04:29 PM
Yea but I think Woodson is better ^5

At staying off the field???

rbackfactory80
09-15-2005, 04:29 PM
Yeah Woodson Might Be Better In College.

Raiders Rock
09-15-2005, 04:33 PM
Nobody throws at Woodson, they pick on our weaknesses as all good teams will do.

Woodson is a better corner than Champ is though

Bob's your Information Minister
09-15-2005, 04:37 PM
If Champ can't raise his arm over his head he could have trouble. Dexter McCleon couldn't do that last year and it destroyed his game.

elsid13
09-15-2005, 04:41 PM
Nobody throws at Woodson, they pick on our weaknesses as all good teams will do.

Woodson is a better corner than Champ is though


People throw at Cwood all the time, when they get bored running against your defense line. Champ is ten times better due to his athletic skills, heart and comment to the team and winning. Before you throw the skins, he left because he couldn’t take the circus that franchise had become. Woodson concern about getting paid and that it.

orange 4 life
09-15-2005, 04:41 PM
Don't think that Dirt Pile helped alot either

i know its not realistic in some cities, but at some point dirt needs to be outlawed.
the simple FACT of the matter is it causes too many injuries and negatively affects the game as a whole.
if youre an aesthetic type, it looks like sh!t too.

Raiders Rock
09-15-2005, 04:45 PM
If Champ can't raise his arm over his head he could have trouble. Dexter McCleon couldn't do that last year and it destroyed his game.
Dexter McCleon can raise his arms?

OrangeShadow
09-15-2005, 04:47 PM
At least the news is encouraging.

elsid13
09-15-2005, 04:48 PM
If Champ can't raise his arm over his head he could have trouble. Dexter McCleon couldn't do that last year and it destroyed his game.



Dexter McCleon can raise his arms?


Dexter had game??? Damn I must of missed it.

UKBronco
09-15-2005, 04:49 PM
I'm guessing this puts to bed any thoughts of playing offense for the rest of the season.....

Shame, because apart from Rod he was the only person who could catch the ball in week 1.

Bob's your Information Minister
09-15-2005, 05:08 PM
McCleon had six picks and played quite well in 2003.

Bronco9798
09-15-2005, 05:14 PM
Dexter sucks Bob.

Bob's your Information Minister
09-15-2005, 05:16 PM
Dexter sucks Bob.

He sucked so bad he picked off Plummer twice last year.

Dexter was a solid corner in 2003. He had a horrible 2004, but a large part of it was due to injury.

Do we really need to discuss this? I only brought him up because he had a shoulder injury similar to Bailey's.

If Bailey is really going to play, I think he will be severely limited.

elsid13
09-15-2005, 05:18 PM
Do we really need to discuss this? I only brought him up because he had a shoulder injury similar to Bailey's.



You brought it up so you could attempt to hijack the thread and tell us how good some crappy/Chef defender was.

Bob's your Information Minister
09-15-2005, 05:21 PM
You brought it up so you could attempt to hijack the thread and tell us how good some crappy/Chef defender was.

No. NO!!!

I used it to assess Chump's injury.

Raiders Rock
09-15-2005, 05:23 PM
He sucked so bad he picked off Plummer twice last year.

Dexter was a solid corner in 2003. He had a horrible 2004, but a large part of it was due to injury.

Do we really need to discuss this? I only brought him up because he had a shoulder injury similar to Bailey's.

If Bailey is really going to play, I think he will be severely limited.

Everybody picks off Plumber, you have to use a better QB to get any Dexter credit here

Bob's your Information Minister
09-15-2005, 05:27 PM
Everybody picks off Plumber, you have to use a better QB to get any Dexter credit here

How many Raider DBs picked him off twice? How many Charger DBs?

elsid13
09-15-2005, 05:28 PM
Everybody picks off Plumber, you have to use a better QB to get any Dexter credit here


Colon stats from 2004:

Yr Team G GS Att Comp Pct Yards YPA Lg TD Int
2004 Raiders 14 13 513 289 56.3 3495 6.81 63 21 20

so plummer has some company

elsid13
09-15-2005, 05:30 PM
No. NO!!!

I used it to assess Chump's injury.


The lady protest to much, methink.

DB-Freak
09-15-2005, 05:30 PM
Sprinting and cutting requires the whole body to be in tip top condition.

Even in an injury to the core and upperbody could severely limit someone.

Unless it's an lower arm injury.

Garcia Bronco
09-15-2005, 05:31 PM
cortizone bitches! Shoot'em up

WaffleBoy
09-15-2005, 05:32 PM
Bailey better play. Portis had 122 yards last week.

The Boy Wonder :super:

Raiders Rock
09-15-2005, 05:33 PM
Colon stats from 2004:

Yr Team G GS Att Comp Pct Yards YPA Lg TD Int
2004 Raiders 14 13 513 289 56.3 3495 6.81 63 21 20

so plummer has some company

I don't defend Collins so your gonna have to find somebody else to argue about him.

RR

Clockwork Orange
09-15-2005, 05:33 PM
Bailey better play. Portis had 122 yards last week.

The Boy Wonder :super:

And his team put up 9 points. Same story, different year.

Ratboy
09-15-2005, 05:34 PM
Bailey better play. Portis had 122 yards last week.

The Boy Wonder :super:

Champ had 2 turnovers.. I'll take those.

footstepsfrom#27
09-15-2005, 05:38 PM
Nobody throws at Woodson, they pick on our weaknesses as all good teams will do.

Woodson is a better corner than Champ is though
Weed...it's what's for dinner.

watermock
09-15-2005, 06:00 PM
I'm aware of that and I don't really care. I just want to play football and help us win.''

That's balls to the wall Champ Bailey. I never buy a jersey, but I'm getting a 24. They better have it in a sling for a few weeks. I'll take a bakers dozen of Champ Baileys. I'm not sure I agree letting him start, but it sounds like it wasn't as serious as we thought. God he was dragging that wing like a bird even Beezlebub would pity...Not...

I don't want him to push it and get it injured for the whole year. Hopefully they have it strapped in place if he likes it or not.

OrangeShadow
09-15-2005, 06:10 PM
Woodson is a better corner than Champ is though

:bs:

Spider
09-15-2005, 06:58 PM
Yea but I think Woodson is better ^5
Ha! ......Dont think ........you cant do it very well

Maximus
09-15-2005, 07:11 PM
gonna be hell to lift that arm and defend a pass, look for SD to go over the top and make him stretch it out
Bailey had a scapula injury while in washington... I wonder if its the same side.... He took a torching after that! Trying to be a hero cost the skins a playoff birth.

Maximus
09-15-2005, 07:13 PM
I don't defend Collins so your gonna have to find somebody else to argue about him.

RR

I'll defend him...

Ok donkey fan put up the stats for this year! Who's better right now?

watermock
09-15-2005, 07:16 PM
That's horsecrap. Only you could assert that his injury "cost them the playoffs"..that's Drama Queen on Steroids.

Shouldn't you be in RR's rathole anyway?

Maximus
09-15-2005, 07:23 PM
That's horsecrap. Only you could assert that his injury "cost them the playoffs"..that's Drama Queen on Steroids.

Shouldn't you be in RR's rathole anyway?

He got burned by Todd Pinkston for the game winning touchdown. Bailey was getting burned all game because he could not raise his arm nor could he tackle! Bailout should have sat out that game!

watermock
09-15-2005, 07:29 PM
Call me when Moss wins a game. Go to the rathole you call home.

Spider
09-15-2005, 07:30 PM
I'll defend him...

Ok donkey fan put up the stats for this year! Who's better right now?
Seems to me they are both 0-1 right now ....... But soon Collins will get drunk and quit the team

Maximus
09-15-2005, 07:33 PM
Seems to me they are both 0-1 right now ....... But soon Collins will get drunk and quit the team

LOL as long as he doesn't have that cigar in his mouth he'll be ok!

One of them is 0-1 with a higher QB rating against a tougher team....

Iowanian
09-15-2005, 07:39 PM
I admire a guy wanting to play through pain.

I've dislocated a shoulder before, and lifting your arm over your head
to put a shirt on is quite a chore. I'll be really suprised if he feels this
way after he makes contact....and I can't image that he'll be able
to beat McCardell for those high balls.

Its impressive if he does it.

I also separated ribs in HS wrestling, taped them and participated....If Anderson can play in 4 weeks....he's tougher than boiled owl sh!t.

Spider
09-15-2005, 07:40 PM
LOL as long as he doesn't have that cigar in his mouth he'll be ok!

One of them is 0-1 with a higher QB rating against a tougher team....
tougher team ? who knows what the Dolphins will do under Sabin ? Clearly the Dolphins are a different team then under Wannstedt ....... So realy after weak 1 how do we know who is strong and weak yet ?
I know Fader math is fuzzy as well as their preception of reality , but even Raider fan can see we dont have a measuring stick after week 1 ........

broncos love
09-15-2005, 07:44 PM
I love Champ Bailey:super:

Bronx33
09-15-2005, 07:46 PM
I admire a guy wanting to play through pain.

I've dislocated a shoulder before, and lifting your arm over your head
to put a shirt on is quite a chore. I'll be really suprised if he feels this
way after he makes contact....and I can't image that he'll be able
to beat McCardell for those high balls.

Its impressive if he does it.

I also separated ribs in HS wrestling, taped them and participated....If Anderson can play in 4 weeks....he's tougher than boiled owl sh!t.


By the sounds of it he really doesn't have that much pain, i just hope he's serious about being able to play.

Iowanian
09-15-2005, 08:13 PM
I'm sure its possible....but I know I had pain...alot of soreness and the strength wasn't there for a year. I'm also sure that the wonders of injected cortizone would help too.

Bronx33
09-15-2005, 08:13 PM
I'm sure its possible....but I know I had pain...alot of soreness and the strength wasn't there for a year. I'm also sure that the wonders of injected cortizone would help too.


Ahhhhh i forgot about the drugs....

Rascal
09-15-2005, 08:14 PM
Is it me, or does that sound like spin?

Come to think of it, after that first game, its gonna be a while before I believe anything Shanny says.

Same here. I won't believe this till he is on the field. I have my doubts.

Clockwork Orange
09-15-2005, 08:34 PM
He got burned by Todd Pinkston for the game winning touchdown. Bailey was getting burned all game because he could not raise his arm nor could he tackle! Bailout should have sat out that game!

You're right, he should sit out games every time he breaks a nail like Woodson does. ::)

24champ
09-15-2005, 08:40 PM
i told you guys he will play! champ wants to play and wants to win. If he didnt think he couldnt help this team win he wouldnt play.

Rock Chalk
09-15-2005, 08:43 PM
Weed...it's what's for dinner.
Breakfast and lunch too if your lucky! :puff:

dlow187
09-15-2005, 08:48 PM
One factor on How Champ plays will depend on how much pressure our front 4 puts on 'birth mark face'

ro_50
09-15-2005, 09:21 PM
What a fast healer. What heart he has. I'm proud to own a Champ Bailey jersey.

To bad Clarett doesnt have Bailey's genes in recovering fast.

Atlas
09-15-2005, 09:29 PM
I watched the Dolphin game again and I will say Champ played a hell of a game. HE made several tough tackles on running plays. That guy is really tough and he is great against the run. The Defense was playing good until he got hurt and then the wheels fell off.

ludo21
09-15-2005, 09:37 PM
What a fast healer. What heart he has. I'm proud to own a Champ Bailey jersey.

To bad Clarett doesnt have Bailey's genes in recovering fast.

Recovering fast?? hes a puss and should of practiced, ill trust the players in the locker room that called him a puss.

Rulon Velvet Jones
09-15-2005, 09:58 PM
You might have read that wrong, ludo. I think you're both bagging on Clarett, which is deserved. Guy's a walking clit with arms.

SoCalBronco
09-15-2005, 10:00 PM
just providing the link for the original article

http://www.accessnorthga.com/news/ap_newfullstory.asp?ID=65173

ludo21
09-15-2005, 10:04 PM
You might have read that wrong, ludo. I think you're both bagging on Clarett, which is deserved. Guy's a walking clit with arms.


ya, MoC deserves every bit of bashing he gets. Nnyah!

wabbit
09-15-2005, 10:37 PM
Hey, here's a 'did you know'

Champ suffered a 'dislocation' Sunday, much, MUCH less severe than a separation.

According to an orthopedic specialist, IF Champ decides to play, he runs a great than 50-50 shot of separating the joint from it's socket with only minimum contact.

If he suffers a high degree separation, he may require immediate surgery.

Seems like a pretty simple decision to me whether to play or not.

Atlas
09-15-2005, 10:39 PM
just providing the link for the original article

http://www.accessnorthga.com/news/ap_newfullstory.asp?ID=65173

BUSTED!!!! THE Link police strike again!!!!

Way to go SoCal I was about to say something myself. Good job!!!

ro_50
09-15-2005, 10:52 PM
I should have said I wish MC had the same drive as Bailey.

Popps
09-16-2005, 12:51 AM
Bailey practices, says he'll play Sunday
By EDDIE PELLS, AP Sports Writer
September 15, 2005


Hey Heav, what's with the FireShanahan.com thing? Have you actually checked out the site? It reads like it was put together by a scorned, gay lover.


The Broncos line while effective, is extremely dirty and has ended the seasons of many players. I don't care how many 1000 yard rushers this system has produced, I do not want the Broncos to be hated around the league and reviled as cheaters. It used to be that our rivals in Oakland were the ones called cheaters and hated across the league.

This is a supposed "fan" writing this stuff? Sounds like a rai_ers fan bent out of shape because he couldn't score a crack rock for the night or something.

I'm embarrassed for anyone involved with that site. Talk about too much time on your hands.

Hulamau
09-16-2005, 01:22 AM
Nobody throws at Woodson, they pick on our weaknesses as all good teams will do.

Woodson is a better corner than Champ is though

Joke! Woodson's a cry baby pussy

-Slap-
09-16-2005, 05:30 AM
Jesus, that dude's tough.

Kinda reminds me of the coach from Beavis and Butthead.

Buzzcut.

http://www.pathguy.com/buzzcut.jpg
"I want you to kick me in the jimmys!"

-Slap-
09-16-2005, 05:37 AM
Almost all pro athletes have way higher pain thresholds than the normal person. Then you have guys who are far above that of a average pro athlete. Look at how hard Champ plays, and don't be fooled by his fluid athleticism. Look at the way he attacks the running game. I always thought he was the best CB in the League. After getting a chance to see him play week after week, I'm even more convinced.

Rascal
09-16-2005, 06:59 AM
Hey, here's a 'did you know'

Champ suffered a 'dislocation' Sunday, much, MUCH less severe than a separation.

According to an orthopedic specialist, IF Champ decides to play, he runs a great than 50-50 shot of separating the joint from it's socket with only minimum contact.

If he suffers a high degree separation, he may require immediate surgery.

Seems like a pretty simple decision to me whether to play or not.

Sorry but I've got to call BS on this.

If he was one bump away from going on the operating table and being out for 1-2 months there is no way he would play. Now this article may be a ruse by Shanny. But if Champ plays then I've got no choice but to believe that your statement is BS. I've dislocated my shoulder on numerous occasions playing football and I was always back in the next week and I played on the line. If it was a dislocation I'm not worried, but when they talk about seperation that's when I get concerned.

Mediator12
09-16-2005, 07:12 AM
Hey, here's a 'did you know'

Champ suffered a 'dislocation' Sunday, much, MUCH less severe than a separation.

According to an orthopedic specialist, IF Champ decides to play, he runs a great than 50-50 shot of separating the joint from it's socket with only minimum contact.

If he suffers a high degree separation, he may require immediate surgery.

Seems like a pretty simple decision to me whether to play or not.

And here is one right back at you wabbit "did you know" that the only two options for treatment by an Orthopedic Surgeon are Anti-inflammatories and Surgery? Which one pays the Doctors Bills?

I have said this before on this site, do not See a Orthopedic Specialist until you are ready to have surgery. It's the only thing they do thwack

As for the Medical condition of Bailey, I have very little confidence in the Broncos Medical staff, including Greek. They LET WALLS play again after clearly not being able to do his JOB last Sunday. The 60 Yard TD that he allowed was the Straw that broke the Camels Back. Hell, Brandon would at least have tackled him after the Catch thwack

bendog
09-16-2005, 07:23 AM
Wabbit's right, champ just needs to be sat not just this week but for 2-3 and even 4 if necessary. His shoulder won't be 'ok' till next year, but it should get stronger.

My orthopod likes to cut, but he's pretty cool with drugs too. I think he likes to cut cause it's more challanging to take pieces off and then put them back.

Mediator12
09-16-2005, 07:25 AM
Wabbit's right, champ just needs to be sat not just this week but for 2-3 and even 4 if necessary. His shoulder won't be 'ok' till next year, but it should get stronger.

My orthopod likes to cut, but he's pretty cool with drugs too. I think he likes to cut cause it's more challanging to take pieces off and then put them back.

The Money isn't a factor, right ;D

bloodsunday
09-16-2005, 07:29 AM
Hey, here's a 'did you know'

Champ suffered a 'dislocation' Sunday, much, MUCH less severe than a separation.

According to an orthopedic specialist, IF Champ decides to play, he runs a great than 50-50 shot of separating the joint from it's socket with only minimum contact.

If he suffers a high degree separation, he may require immediate surgery.

Seems like a pretty simple decision to me whether to play or not.
Scary. You can't ask Champ to go out there and only give 50% effort, he's too much of a competitor. Shut him down and let it heal.

fontaine
09-16-2005, 07:46 AM
He practiced with pads on for the entire session and had contact. If coaches were that concerned about losing him for the season then they wouldn't have allowed him to do it in practice.

watermock
09-16-2005, 07:51 AM
Beezlebub went under the knife and was never the same...me and the old man medic laughed a bit tho. I have to admit, I couldn't watch him remove kitty's jewels.

I simply don't know about Champ. I'm very leery about him playing this week and winding up lost for the season. I have the feeling Champ is snarling at doctors right now to leave him alone, that he knows his body.

Strap on a shoulder brace and lets go. IF and only IF he's cleared.

I also think Denver should bring in some younger blood as medic. Greek shouldn't be pushed out, but I think it's time to bring in someone to "assist" that didn't go to medical school in the 1920's.

fontaine
09-16-2005, 08:33 AM
Given, Champ's tender shoulder, I wonder if the team will bump Ernster to the PS and sign Middlebrooks for a few weeks?

At least he knows the scheme and could work on Gates like he did last year?

Mile High Shack
09-16-2005, 08:36 AM
Hey, here's a 'did you know'

Champ suffered a 'dislocation' Sunday, much, MUCH less severe than a separation.

According to an orthopedic specialist, IF Champ decides to play, he runs a great than 50-50 shot of separating the joint from it's socket with only minimum contact.

If he suffers a high degree separation, he may require immediate surgery.

Seems like a pretty simple decision to me whether to play or not.

which is why I don't want him to play

bloodsunday
09-16-2005, 08:40 AM
Given, Champ's tender shoulder, I wonder if the team will bump Ernster to the PS and sign Middlebrooks for a few weeks?

At least he knows the scheme and could work on Gates like he did last year?
It's too late in the week for that to happen. We are going to battle with either Alexander or Paymah added to the 45 man active roster most likely.

Shanny can probably only play 1 of Anderson and Bailey. The other will be deactivated (along with Ernster) to make room for Dayne and Alexander.

fontaine
09-16-2005, 08:41 AM
It's too late in the week for that to happen. We are going to battle with either Alexander or Paymah added to the 45 man active roster most likely.

Shanny can probably only play 1 of Anderson and Bailey. The other will be deactivated (along with Ernster) to make room for Dayne and Alexander.

Middlebrooks or Alexander. Man that's a choice I wouldn't wish upon my worst enemy.

bendog
09-16-2005, 08:58 AM
Middlebrooks or Alexander. Man that's a choice I wouldn't wish upon my worst enemy.
Middlebrooks played well last year. He got hurt again and I have no idea if he still can play, but he was finally health for a little while last year. I'm assuming he's not, or shanny would have brought him in for a looksee. Brandon is still taking up a spot, so it's not like there isn't room.

fontaine
09-16-2005, 09:04 AM
Middlebrooks played well last year. He got hurt again and I have no idea if he still can play, but he was finally health for a little while last year. I'm assuming he's not, or shanny would have brought him in for a looksee.

Yeah, it sounds like the 49ers passed on him for the same reason and no other team has picked him up so his leg injury must be worse than I thought.

If we can get by without him, I would love for Bailey to sit out this week but the prospect of Paymah or Alexander playing doesn't impress me at all.

Does anyone have any info on whether we'll finally see China Brown in action?

horsepower
09-16-2005, 09:13 AM
won't do bailey much good.it takes a good 2-3 weeks to get over that type of injury.

and the chargers will know that and throw to him as often as possible.

my bet is he won't be fit enough to play the 2nd quarter,stupid to risk him...

fontaine
09-16-2005, 09:15 AM
won't do bailey much good.it takes a good 2-3 weeks to get over that type of injury.

and the chargers will know that and throw to him as often as possible.


Or worse, let Tomlinson run to the perimeter with Lorenzo Neal blocking out ahead towards Champ. Knowing the kind of competitor he is, I could see Champ putting himself in there and doing further damage.

horsepower
09-16-2005, 09:18 AM
Or worse, let Tomlinson run to the perimeter with Lorenzo Neal blocking out ahead towards Champ. Knowing the kind of competitor he is, I could see Champ putting himself in there and doing further damage.


make you right,whats the point of risking him in a game we will win,i'd rather he sits this one out.and he's back for the chiefs game next week...

Hotrod
09-16-2005, 09:30 AM
Bailey better play. Portis had 122 yards last week.

The Boy Wonder :super:

LOL I can never decide if I find you funny or just an arse _i_O_i_

Mile High Shack
09-16-2005, 09:42 AM
Bailey is the best CB in the league at tackling

and that is something he is going to have a hard time doing with a bad shoulder

DBroncos4life
09-16-2005, 11:01 AM
won't do bailey much good.it takes a good 2-3 weeks to get over that type of injury.

and the chargers will know that and throw to him as often as possible.

my bet is he won't be fit enough to play the 2nd quarter,stupid to risk him...


BS. Sorry it doesn't take that long to get over something like that. Nothing was torn or anything like that. He should be fine this week.

bendog
09-16-2005, 12:49 PM
What's wrong with shanny. Be like billichick and put a wr at corner!

freak6
09-16-2005, 12:56 PM
Yeah really, put Darrius Watts in at Safety, Darrius has always been great at breaking up pass plays and his drops won't seem so bad then.

How is it that our LBs are faster than our Safeties, there is just something wrong about that.

Rausch
09-16-2005, 01:17 PM
We start 3 DB's in my fantasy league and I've only got two corners. Bailey being out would post me a fat "0" for the week.

Yuck. Drafting Bailey and Surtain don't look so genius now...