Coyer Poll

[OrangeShadow]

Should we fire coyer? and if you vote yes try and come up with someone to take his place

[jayman_37]

The Tennessee Titans D coordinator. He is much better than people give him credit for. He is a good matchup guy disguises his defenses well and he did alright last year with nothing. Also is a young guy that we could promote to head coach after Shanahan retires or gets fired.

[Bronco LB 59]

What a chicken **** poll. You should have made it public Orange Shadow.

Anybody with any football sense knows the offense put the defense in a bad spot all game on Sunday. The defense was rarely in position to play their best hand.

[Rock Chalk]

What a chicken **** poll. You should have made it public Orange Shadow.

Anybody with any football sense knows the offense put the defense in a bad spot all game on Sunday. The defense was rarely in position to play their best hand.
Public polls are chicken **** and the only reason for them is to add fuel to the fire.

I voted yes, fire his ass. Get someone to disguise what the **** we are doing out there.

[Rascal]

Don't make me send you back down to one dot Alec. LOL!!!

[Mile High Shack]

this is a dumb poll, he shouldn't be fired, but he needs to improve his play calling

[AlienBronco]

Fire???? Why, because the Offense couldn't find the endzone, sustain a drive or what to do with turn overs ??

Coyer, gets a pass for holding the fort in that oven, untill their bodies couldn't anymore.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Silly idea.

[Bronco LB 59]

Public polls are chicken **** and the only reason for them is to add fuel to the fire.

I voted yes, fire his ass. Get someone to disguise what the **** we are doing out there.

The defense has had its bad moments with the Indy playoff meltdowns, but Coyer has done an above-average considering the crap he's had to work with up front. Did you forget Ray Rhodes and his conservative schemes? What about Greg Robinson and the 2000 defense that single handedly turned the league's #2 ranked offense into a wild card team? Watching Charlie Waters coordinate defense was one of my most painful experiences as a Bronco fan.

Coyer has been the best guy since the days of Wade Phillips and Joe Collier. Can we at least allow him to finish the season? The defense did its job in the first half. They forced two turnovers and held the Dolphins to six points. They stunk in the second half because the offense couldn't sustain drives and give them a break.

[Al Wilson]

Fire his ass.

Why you ask? Becuase we got our asses handed to us back to back years and we had like 4 blowouts. With the talent on the defense, i just don't understand it.

[Taco John]

It's week one and people are calling for the defensive coordinator's head?

This is weak. I'm embarassed this is even happening here.

Why in the world are people talking about firings in September? I'm all for criticism, but... wow... What a bunch of reactionaries...

[Ballhawk]

It's week one and people are calling for the defensive coordinator's head?

This is weak. I'm embarassed this is even happening here.

No doubt, Im waiting for the Griese is 1-0 thread :moody:

[Ratboy]

It's week one and people are calling for the defensive coordinator's head?

This is weak. I'm embarassed this is even happening here.

Yeah, This is pretty ridiculous!!

It should be a Fire Kubiak poll.

[Al Wilson]

It's week one and people are calling for the defensive coordinator's head?
Oh whatever! Coyer just sucks, and he is the reason we got our asses kicked to Indianapolis and a bunch of other teams. I don't care if we were rated #4 or wutever because this defense is a top 5 defense in the league. But seriously Coyer lacks creativity, motivation, schemes, etc. Everytime I watch Denver defense on the field the blitz packages are so predictable it's not even funny. Imagine if we had Dick Lebeau or Jim Johnson as DC.......We would kill every muther****ing offense and shove it up the Colts asses year in and year out.

[Taco John]

Oh whatever! Coyer just sucks, and he is the reason we got our asses kicked to Indianapolis and a bunch of other teams. I don't care if we were rated #4 or wutever because this defense is a top 5 defense in the league. But seriously Coyer lacks creativity, motivation, schemes, etc. Everytime I watch Denver defense on the field the blitz packages are so predictable it's not even funny. Imagine if we had Dick Lebeau or Jim Johnson as DC.......We would kill every muther****ing offense and shove it up the Colts asses year in and year out.

Just a bunch of emotional nonsense.

[Bronco LB 59]

Imagine if we had Dick Lebeau or Jim Johnson as DC.......We would kill every muther****ing offense and shove it up the Colts asses year in and year out.

Unless you want to promote them to a head coaching position, they are not available for hire. So stop living in your dream world. Do you have any other clever ideas, genius?

For the last dozen or so years, we have endured Charlie Waters, Greg Robinson and Ray Rhodes as defensive coordinators, I am willing to wait it out on Coyer and not hit the panic button.

[clint7]

Unreal. Is this PFT or the OrangeMane? ::)

[Taco John]

As far as I'm concerened Coyer is the best defensive coordinator we've had since Wade Phillips.

[elsid13]

Yeah, This is pretty ridiculous!!

It should be a Fire Kubiak poll.


I waiting to start fire the new mascot poll, ever since we go rid of the old Thunder this team has sucked. Bring back Thunder

[Bronx33]

It's week one and people are calling for the defensive coordinator's head?

This is weak. I'm embarassed this is even happening here.

Why in the world are people talking about firings in September? I'm all for criticism, but... wow... What a bunch of reactionaries...

Well said TJ.........exactly my thoughts on the subject.

[Taco John]

Unreal. Is this PFT or the OrangeMane? ::)


Beats me... Apparently PFT is a puppet master though, because they drop an unsubstantiated rumor, and all of a sudden we see a bunch of nancy reactionaries jump in line and start screaming for his head, despite the fact that we went an entire offseason without the subject being broached even once.

It used to be that there was no way that sort of thing would happen here. It would just be dismissed for what it was: a garbage rumor from a site known for spreading garbage rumors.

[clint7]

Beats me... Apparently PFT is a puppet master though, because they drop an unsubstantiated rumor, and all of a sudden we see a bunch of nancy reactionaries jump in line and start screaming for his head, despite the fact that we went an entire offseason without the subject being broached even once.

It used to be that there was no way that sort of thing would happen here. It would just be dismissed for what it was: a garbage rumor from a site known for spreading garbage rumors.

Exactly.

[let me give this a try, TJ, shhhh...]

Hey everyone! I just read on PFT that the Broncos have the best coaching staff in the league, they even quoted league sources! Thoughts? ;)

[Al Wilson]

As far as I'm concerened Coyer is the best defensive coordinator we've had since Wade Phillips.
What has Coyer done? Nothing.

Don't give me #4 rank defense bull****. This team without Coyer is a top 5 defense any year.

[Bronco LB 59]

What has Coyer done? Nothing.

Don't give me #4 rank defense bull****. This team without Coyer is a top 5 defense any year.


Like Taco said, you weren't here in the offseason calling for Coyer's head. You let one game cloud your judgment and take over your emotions.

Do you remember the previous defensive coordinators here over the last dozen years? If you want to fire Coyer, then tell me who do you have in mind? Don't mention somebody who is already employed in the same capacity with another team.

[Al Wilson]

You let one game cloud your judgment and take over your emotions.
One game? That is Bull crap. I've never liked Coyer as a DC, and I don't know why you guys like him so much? What has the dude done? Embarrased us on national television with garbage schemes and creativity while every asshole was laughing at us.

Well, buddy, I was not a member when the colts gave us the boot for the 2nd straight year.

[Al Wilson]

If you want to fire Coyer, then tell me who do you have in mind?
I'de love to have Greg Robinson back. He had great schemes and lots of creativity with our defenses from 1995 till 2000. We didn't have an elite defense back then, but Robinson had great schemes and utilized players correctly.

Even though he's at Syracuse I'de bring him in to replace Coyer.

[Taco John]

I'de love to have Greg Robinson back. He had great schemes and lots of creativity with our defenses from 1995 till 2000. We didn't have an elite defense back then, but Robinson had great schemes and utilized players correctly.

Even though he's at Syracuse I'de bring him in to replace Coyer.



Hilarious!

Alright guys! Who's behind this!? You got me! Joke's over! Come on out!

Pulled a fast one on ole Taco!

I thought he was serious for a minute!

[Al Wilson]

Hilarious!

Alright guys! Who's behind this!? You got me! Joke's over! Come on out!

Pulled a fast one on ole Taco!

I thought he was serious for a minute!
Ok there, so you can hate Jake Plummer, but I can't hate Coyer?

I don't see the difference.

[Taco John]

Ok there, so you can hate Jake Plummer, but I can't hate Coyer?

I don't see the difference.



You can hate Coyer all you want. But when you start advocating for Greg Robinson, you make yourself a target...

:dunk:

[Denver Crush]

When Robinson was DC not only did the other teams not know what we were doing, WE didnt know what we were doing. It was the O that was outscoring mofo's so bad that our D didnt have to be spectacular.

[Bronco LB 59]

One game? That is Bull crap. I've never liked Coyer as a DC, and I don't know why you guys like him so much? What has the dude done? Embarrased us on national television with garbage schemes and creativity while every a-hole was laughing at us.

Well, buddy, I was not a member when the colts gave us the boot for the 2nd straight year.


I think Coyer has been unfairly criticized for the 1st playoff loss. If you remember the Quentin Griffin big game in 2003, Coyer totally baffled Manning all night with his schemes in their very first meeting. In that game, Coyer also had a healthy Kelly Herndon and Nick Ferguson to utilize. Denver threw everything at Manning that night to get into the playoffs and Colts took advantage of the whole reel of game film in the second meeting.

[DB-Freak]

What are you guys ****ing retarded?

Coyer lost all of his top 3 corners by the halftime and you wonder what's wrong with Coyer's scheme or something?

WOW!

[DB-Freak]

Yea, but Coyer has "potential" probowlers in his reign right?

[Al Wilson]

Colts took advantage of the whole reel of game film in the second meeting.
So you're telling me Coyer couldn't game plan when the season was on the line

[Bronco LB 59]

I'de love to have Greg Robinson back. He had great schemes and lots of creativity with our defenses from 1995 till 2000. We didn't have an elite defense back then, but Robinson had great schemes and utilized players correctly.

Even though he's at Syracuse I'de bring him in to replace Coyer.


Thank you. I don't have to say another word. rofl

[clint7]

I'de love to have Greg Robinson back.

zowie!

Wow! I can honestly say, I didn't see that coming? :kiddingme

[Al Wilson]

Thank you. I don't have to say another word. rofl
You asked which Denver coach I'de like to have back. I would replace Coyer with Robinson if I had the chance. I answered your question.

Never did I say Robinson was my #1 guy on my list.

[DB-Freak]

It is an annual tradition to blame coordinators when they have crap.

Seriously who the **** do we have?

[Bronco LB 59]

So you're telling me Coyer couldn't game plan when the season was on the line

Coyer did game plan with the season on the line. The first Indy game in late 2003 was for Denver's postseason survival. It was do or die. He couldn't worry about possibly playing Indy again in the playoffs. He had to get there first. Coyer threw the book at Manning and totally baffled Peyton. You are forgetting that trying to pull out two wins in 3 weeks in the Hoosier Dome is not easy.

[Al Wilson]

Coyer did game plan with the season on the line. The first Indy game in late 2003 was for Denver's postseason survival. It was do or die. He couldn't worry about possibly playing Indy again in the playoffs. He had to get there first. Coyer threw the book at Manning and totally baffled Peyton. You are forgetting that trying to pull out two wins in 3 weeks in the Hoosier Dome is not easy.Buddy, Coyer had 2 ****ing weeks to gameplan for the playoff game. WHEN YOU'RE IN THE PLAYOFFS, IS YOUR ****ING SEASON NOT ON THE LINE?

The old fart had 2 weeks to game plan for Manning because the game against the Packers didn't mean ****. Yet the old man failed, and failed against last year. With the talent we have on our defense, I just don't see how we can get our asses kicked like that.

Replace the fool.

[Bronco9798]

If the Broncos start out 0-4 and the defense is sucking then you might see some serious talk about a few people getting let go, including Coyer. Until that happens it's way to early to start talking about firing people.

[DB-Freak]

Unless you have Belicheck, you're not stopping Manning.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Unless you have Belicheck, you're not stopping Manning.
And I don't see them doing it this year.

[Bronco LB 59]

With the talent we have on our defense, I just don't see how we can get our asses kicked like that.

Replace the fool.

Damn! I forgot about all the talent on our juggernaut defensive line last season. Mario Fatafehi, Monsanto Pope, Anton Palepoi, Marco Coleman, Ellis Johnson, Raylee Johnson, Luther Elliss.......

5 of these guys are now out of football. 3 out of them are in their mid-30s. Coyer didn't have a chance to get heat on Manning with those guys.

[DB-Freak]

Damn! I forgot about all the talent on our juggernaut defensive line last season. Mario Fatafehi, Monsanto Pope, Anton Palepoi, Marco Coleman, Ellis Johnson, Raylee Johnson, Luther Elliss.......

5 of these guys are now out of football. 3 out of them are in their mid-30s. Coyer didn't have a chance to get heat on Manning with those guys.

And the potential "probowlers" with Courtney, Gerard, and Pryce.

O god. How could they not improve?

I mean they got Warren and Brown right? And I mean with Gold that studly WLB who can bust through blocks and has ridiculously great ball awareness.

I mean a team consisting of trash and roadkills. God how could they not be so dominant?

[Jason in LA]

I'm kind of shocked to see a poll blaming Coyer. Was it his fault that the O couldn't get a first down? Was it his fault that his D got worn down because they were on the field too long? They held tight for 3 quarters. But then ran out of gas because of a horrible offense (Plummer). Coyer hasn't done anything to warrent a thread like this. Some of you guys owe him an apology ;D

[Sir Mawn]

I also voted yes. And not because of sunday's game. To me, the guy plain and simply doesn't cut it. I don't want the "after one game we're firing coordinators" crap because I'm not making a judgement after one week.

I think Coyer has bought into the idea that keeping it simple and playing with courage will do the job. The NFL's too complex to make it that simple. I don't mean however that we should have a super complex defense on the field (actually, Robinson's schemes where labeled as too complex for a reason)

Manning is a great QB but there's a reason why the Colts haven't consistently TORCHED other teams like they have torched us (key word: consistently). Coyer fails to confuse anybody and that translates into very few turnovers. A QB that knows what the defense is doing rarely throws a pick. Add to that the lack of passrush and we have ourselves a pretty ineffective defense.

Firing Coyer isn't something we should do now or do during the season, but it's something to contemplate for the future. I'd love for him to change my mind of course...

[Sodak]

Pete Carroll... :boohoo:

[elsid13]

Pete Carroll... :boohoo:


Yeah we need more group hugs ;D

[OrangeShadow]

You can argure about the offense all you want and you can like coyer all you want but the bottom line is his schemes are to predictable.

[brncs_fan]

I totally agree. If he was any kind coordinator he would have had the defense practicing in saunas to get ready for the game sunday so the heat wouldn't have been a problem. Then in his spare time he could have helped Kubiak and Shanahan get their offensive heads out of their ass. Then when Williams, Walls, and Bailey were out of the game, he would have suited up and played DB.

Are you out of your mind?

[brncs_fan]

Hire the savior!!!!

Gunther Cunningham for President!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Broncoman13]

Don't make me send you back down to one dot Alec. LOL!!!


Careful, I made that joke a few days ago and he got me back before he looked! Rotten bastage!!! :D

[Broncoman13]

I voted no, but it's isn't a vote of confidence for Coyer either. He has a lot of improving to do. Blitzing was supposed to be his strong suit. His inability to mask what we are doing with the talent he has is nothing short of amazing. Al Wilson has turned tits up since his arrival. He was once very close to being mentioned in the same breath as Ray Lewis... Al isn't even a top 5 MLB right now and you could make the argument that he isn't top 10. That isn't a reflection of Wilson it's the scheme he is in.

The reason we CAN'T fire Coyer now is b/c we are committed. Whether successful or a repeat of Sunday in Coyer we are committed. Now if we don't see a big time turnaround in his playcalls I say fire his ass when the season ends.

Did anybody see the emotion on the Falcons sideline Monday Night. Mora is a helluva coach. I'd love to have somebody that is young and enthusiastic like Mora.

[SoCalBronco]

Larry Coyer is a great coordinator. We are lucky to have him. He has put up Top 5 defenses 2 years in a row, the first of which was done with scrubs and newbies all over the field.

[troya900]

I'm kind of shocked to see a poll blaming Coyer. Was it his fault that the O couldn't get a first down? Was it his fault that his D got worn down because they were on the field too long? They held tight for 3 quarters. But then ran out of gas because of a horrible offense (Plummer). Coyer hasn't done anything to warrent a thread like this. Some of you guys owe him an apology ;D


I'm sick of analogies like these. I have nothing against you Jason it's just that how can you act like it's all the O's fault. Hey guess what if the Denver D actually forced 3 and outs like the Miami D did then they wouldn't be out on the field so long getting tired. Yes, the O did terrible and did not help the situation, but the D allowed alot of 3rd down pickups and let them drive the ball halfway consistently. If the our D shut down that terrible O liked their's shut ours down then the D and fans couldn't bitch about spending so much time on the field.

[Rock Chalk]

Larry Coyer is a great coordinator. We are lucky to have him. He has put up Top 5 defenses 2 years in a row, the first of which was done with scrubs and newbies all over the field.
Yeah, only to get blown out in the playoffs.

Hell Greg Robinson could do that for us.

[WaffleBoy]

Larry Coyer is a great coordinator.

Great? He hasn't done much against the Colts.

The Boy Wonder :super:

[Taco John]

I love all this "it's too simple" mumbo jumbo...

This after players complained ad naseum about how Robinson's and Rhode's schemes were too complicated.

I don't buy any of it. I think our defense is fine. I believe that if we start seeing some offensive production, any problems people have with the defense will magically disappear.

[TheReverend]

Keep their offense off the field and those rare 60+ passes from ****ty QBs disappear.

[DB-Freak]

Aside from Belicheck no one has really stopped Manning.

[Bronco9798]

Larry Coyer is a great coordinator. We are lucky to have him. He has put up Top 5 defenses 2 years in a row, the first of which was done with scrubs and newbies all over the field.


I wouldn't exactly use the word "Great" to describe Coyer. :-[

[TheReverend]

I wouldn't exactly use the word "Great" to describe Coyer. :-[

I would. By the reaction on this board you'd think we had the 03-04 Chief's Defense.

[WaffleBoy]

Aside from Belicheck no one has really stopped Manning.

Belicheck hasn't stop Manning either; however, the blizzard and cold weather did.

The Boy Wonder :super:

[Mediator12]

Only in America. This is pathetic, but expected. It was unavoidable with the emotion of this loss. Some People will always need someone to Blame. Why not Larry Coyer?

[TheReverend]

Only in America. This is pathetic, but expected. It was unavoidable with the emotion of this loss. Some People will always need someone to Blame. Why not Larry Coyer?

...and Shannahan, and Kubiak, and Plummer, and Ashley, and......

It's gotten a little heavy. SD is only a few days away... time for redemption.

[DBroncos4life]

The water boys got blamed for the cramps as well.

[WaffleBoy]

... time for redemption.

If not, "the Broncos are on the clock."

The Boy Wonder :super:

[Bronx33]

The water boys got blamed for the cramps as well.


They were clearly unprepared in the H2o department..... 2nd string water boys for sure.

[TheReverend]

They were clearly unprepared in the H2o department..... 2nd string water boys for sure.

Cut Terrell and sign Adam Sandler.

[DBroncos4life]

Cut Terrell and sign Adam Sandler.


Terrell is the answer to the RZ problems.

[clint7]

Terrell is the answer to the RZ problems.


Yep, as in Terrell Davis! ;)

[DBroncos4life]

Yep, as in Terrell Davis! ;)



I'm down with that.

[Rock Chalk]

...and Shannahan, and Kubiak, and Plummer, and Ashley, and......

It's gotten a little heavy. SD is only a few days away... time for redemption.
That pretty much sums it up. Everyone gets a little piece of the crow pie this week.

[rbackfactory80]

Aside from Belicheck no one has really stopped Manning.

One team comes to mind that did a great job on him and that was Jacksonville. They beat indy in indy last year and of course the patriots play them well.

[Mile High Shack]

Just a bunch of emotional nonsense.

I voted no :)

[Mr. Trout]

Fire his ass and bring in Lawrence Taylor as our D coordinator. I'm sure the players would be feeling less pain from the cramps if they took a couple lines before the game.

[RunByDesign]

Mickey Andrews

[anthonypacino]

Last time I checked the Offense was supposed to score points and give the Defense a chance to catch their breath, in turn the D makes one or a few more stops than the other team and you win the game.

[gunns]

Think it's a bit extreme to be talking about firing Coyer at this point. As everyone last year was blaming the D line for the offenses bad plays, after one game this year you can put it squarely on the offense. Our TOP was not representative of a Bronco team. The D can definitely use the excuse of the weather as they were constantly on the field after multiple 3 and outs. I will say though that Coyer needs to stop playing so damn far off the ball and make adjustments please. Some creative ones.

[listopencil]

Lame ass bull**** thread.

[-Slap-]

Many comical elements to this thread. First and foremost, that we should fire an outstanding coordinator like Larry Coyer. Second, the notion that Mike Shanahan has even briefly considered firing the man. The funniest part of this thread is that names are being solicited as a replacement, when its painfully obvious that Bob Slowik will get the next crack at the job, whenever that might be.

[Sir Mawn]

I still stand by what I posted earlier... Firing him today, tomorrow or this season is out of the question, obviously, but that doesn't mean we must be happy with what he's done so far. I'm not. It's as if you're either happy with the job he's done or you want hm fired... for me.. NONE OF THE ABOVE.

Mumbo jumbo? You might think he's done a good job, but you can't ignore the obvious... The defense has been picked apart several times. I'm not on the Coyer bandwagon.. and that alone is labeled as nonsense and mumbo jumbo.

What's the message? You're either with Coyer or you talk nonsense? Wow...