Mike Shanahan Press Conference

[Taco John]

Check it out here:

http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=913

[Meck77]

same ole same ole after a loss

I found it interesting that Shanny said Jake only had one bad pass and that was the interception.

[ak1971]

Same old crap....Bowlen needs to fire him...or at least take way the GM part so he doesnt squander the good draft picks next year

[Meck77]

btw what happened to the mane? We must have gotten blindsided by a Dolphin?

[RhymesayersDU]

I try not to be too knee-jerk... I mean, it's easy to be pissed off right now...

But I'm slowly coming around to the idea of a new HC or at least a new OC.

Sorry Shanny...

[24champ]

TJ what happened to the mane? I thought Finhell raided the place....

[Taco John]

btw what happened to the mane? We must have gotten blindsided by a Dolphin?



Server is located in LA...

[Taco John]

I try not to be too knee-jerk... I mean, it's easy to be pissed off right now...

But I'm slowly coming around to the idea of a new HC or at least a new OC.

Sorry Shanny...



I don't want to lose Shanny, but have been of the opinion that we have been stagnant and that he would benefit from a new OC.

[Meck77]

"I did a poor job of getting the team ready in that situation and we didn't execute well. It was bad coaching, bad playing, just bad football. You can’t do that."

- Bill Bellicheck at his Sept 9th press conference after the Pats easily defeated the Raiders.

I just want to hear Shanny say something like this ONCE.

[DBroncos4life]

Server is located in LA...


Even worse, Raiders fans!

[DBroncos4life]

I don't want to lose Shanny, but have been of the opinion that we have been stagnant and that he would benefit from a new OC.


I so wish we would have got Norm Chow. That would make the change over for the Leinart era so much easier :strong:

[RhymesayersDU]

I so wish we would have got Norm Chow. That would make the change over for the Leinart era so much easier :strong:
Freakin' Rep!

[El Guapo]

I watched it while the mane was down.. ticked me off cause it was nothing new. I especially liked when shanny said, "I dont know what went wrong, I cant really put my thumb on it."

I proceeded to yell, "Plummer you ditz!" :redpunch:

its been a fitting day, 1st the Broncos :injured: and then the mane :injured:

[24champ]

I watched it while the mane was down.. ticked me off cause it was nothing new. I especially liked when shanny said, "I dont know what went wrong, I cant really put my thumb on it."

I proceeded to yell, "Plummer you ditz!" :redpunch:

its been a fitting day, 1st the Broncos :injured: and then the mane :injured:

its been a good day for me, started a new class today in college and I got a chicks number, so hopefully some of my luck will rub off on the broncos? :~ohyah!:

[16-JakE-16]

I won't even bother to watch it. He has that speech down. The one for dissapointing losses that is. I mean he has had to use it pretty often.

[Sideburn]

I see that Shamaplan is up to his old tricks. Why doesn't anyone in the media bust him? Are they that afraid of getting their media credintials pulled?

Someone needs to ask the tough questions. I'm sick of this letting every skate by. Boo this man....booo him!

[watermock]

The was deflecting the whole press conference. I'm proud of taking responsibilty, altho he should of taken more.

This is the first time I have called for his head in the history of the OM. He looks exausted. Hiis eyes are sunken and he isn't totally pissed off. He's not even angry. Shanahan is done;. The guy is dying in front of our eyes.

He looks really, really tired. I'm concerned about him. He looked very tired. It might be time to push him upstairs. Should of hired Saban like I wanted.

[watermock]

I don't think it was Boo time, I think it was the proper time to stand by your team. Yeah, Denver sucked, but you don't desert your team.

We have plenty of touch questions.

[El Guapo]

The was deflecting the whole press conference. I'm proud of taking responsibilty, altho he should of taken more.

This is the first time I have called for his head in the history of the OM. He looks exausted. Hiis eyes are sunken and he isn't totally pissed off. He's not even angry. Shanahan is done;. The guy is dying in front of our eyes.

He looks really, really tired. I'm concerned about him. He looked very tired. It might be time to push him upstairs. Should of hired Saban like I wanted.


If he cant fix this sinking ship id say he's gone too. I dont even know if i want the guy upstairs. He's stale bread, he'll go somewhere else and be great though (back to san fran?) ???

[ak1971]

You know, as someone who spends thousands of dollars on the Broncos every year, this is kind of performance and explanation is unexcusable. Its not just 'one game' they looked like this in the past, and nothing has changed. Do you go and see a crappy movie over and over again? ...no. Bowlen needs to start changing his 'product' or start to lose out.

[24champ]

I see that Shamaplan is up to his old tricks. Why doesn't anyone in the media bust him? Are they that afraid of getting their media credintials pulled?

Someone needs to ask the tough questions. I'm sick of this letting every skate by. Boo this man....booo him!

yeah i was waiting for someone to ask him why he had tater run up the middle when clearly we were getting manhandled. Denverbroncos.com is full of sh** when they said shanny worked on the redzone for more than half the camp. How come no one asked him why we kept 3 kickers, 5-6 tight ends, 5 receivers, and only 2 running backs??? We need somebody from the mane to show up at these conferences. I vote for Kahn or TJ.

[watermock]

I'ts pretty easy to pick a bird out of a hat, but who did you have in mind? The coach I wanted just kicked our asses.

[TheReverend]

Hey, I thought it was a great press-conference. A lot of information floating around.

[watermock]

I don't care if you spend millions, honestly.

[Meck77]

Bowlen needs to start changing his 'product' or start to lose out.

Well it was just a few weeks ago when I told Broncos marketing they better keep an eye on what the fans want because if this team slips and has a bad season or two the "Invesco crowd" is going to go away first and the people that will remain are the fans who have been with this team since the 60's 70's 80's (omaners). Even the SB bandwagoners will move on which many already have.

[gunns]

The was deflecting the whole press conference. I'm proud of taking responsibilty, altho he should of taken more.

This is the first time I have called for his head in the history of the OM. He looks exausted. Hiis eyes are sunken and he isn't totally pissed off. He's not even angry. Shanahan is done;. The guy is dying in front of our eyes.

He looks really, really tired. I'm concerned about him. He looked very tired. It might be time to push him upstairs. Should of hired Saban like I wanted.

This keeps up and he'll start looking like Al Davis. Was yesterday's game a forerunner of us becoming the Raiders, bad decisions and all?

[HEAV]

Wow the mane finally has woken to the fact that Shanny isn't the Shanny of 7 years ago.

His GM moves are head scratchers, his game plans are predictable. The piloy light is out folks.

The team will bounce back in week 2. Then all will be happy again. But to think this team is a Super Bowl team??? Sorry.

I'm scared what this guy will do if he's still here in March. I mean he will have two High draft picks to play with!

He's over stayed his welcome. It's time for new blood. Monte Kiffin (sp) anyone?


As for Snake. I still believe in the guy. He had bad throws early, critcal drops in the 2nd and silly play calls to run. Not to mention Jason Taylor was on his ass almost every play. If that was Greise or Kanell back there I'd say the Fins would have broken a sack record.

[watermock]

Your going to tell marketing people from BroncoVille how to spend their cash Meck?

You would have better luck selling oil from the personal fund of Kobe Anan.

[Rohirrim]

I can't remember seeing Shanny look like that. He appears to me like a guy who's just about ready to drop it and walk. No fire. No anger. Just resignation. Maybe he's just burned out. Ten years in his position is a prescription for getting cooked. At least he didn't breakdown and start weeping, like another coach I could mention. ;D

Just judging by Shanny's demeanor on that tape, I'm not holding out much hope against the Chargers. They may have barely lost to the Cowboys, but they played with fire. If this is what Shanny is going to bring to the week, resignation, I don't see things getting turned around anytime soon. Shiite. He looks bewildered. I've never seen that out of Shanny before.

[Meck77]

Your going to tell marketing people from BroncoVille how to spend their cash Meck?

You would have better luck selling oil from the personal fund of Kobe Anan.

Sure I threw out my 2 cents to them but honestly you guys already do a good job of it. That's why everytime an Invesco Sucks thread pops up I encourage people to post on it because marketing pays closer attention to what is going on around here than you might believe. How do I know ? As the great Mock would say "Because they told me so". The Denver Broncos marketing knows all about your cat beezle and your corn Mock.

[DomCasual]

I don't think it was Boo time, I think it was the proper time to stand by your team. Yeah, Denver sucked, but you don't desert your team.

We have plenty of touch questions.


PLEASE, everybody remember that this was only one game. Most of you were excited about this team one week ago. Now we went and lost in a place that we have never won, and everyone is on suicide watch. The only thing that has changed was one game.

No Bronco coach has ever won in Miami. It sucks, and it was a game we should have been able to win. But let's see how the next two or three games go before we start firing coaches, speculating about number 1 overall draft picks, etc.

On a side note, I have found it interesting how many people who had not posted in a long time all of a sudden had a barrage of posts, starting yesterday. I swear, some people just aren't happy unless they have something to complain about.

[watermock]

I can't remember seeing Shanny look like that. He appears to me like a guy who's just about ready to drop it and walk. No fire. No anger. Just resignation. Maybe he's just burned out. Ten years in his position is a prescription for getting cooked. At least he didn't breakdown and start weeping, like another coach I could mention. ;D

Just judging by Shanny's demeanor on that tape, I'm not holding out much hope against the Chargers. They may have barely lost to the Cowboys, but they played with fire. If this is what Shanny is going to bring to the week, resignation, I don't see things getting turned around anytime soon. Shiite. He looks bewildered. I've never seen that out of Shanny before.

That was my impression.

Shanahan looked beaten. I have never seen him look beaten.

[BroncosMT]

Wow the mane finally has woken to the fact that Shanny isn't the Shanny of 7 years ago.

His GM moves are head scratchers, his game plans are predictable. The piloy light is out folks.



I agree.....How long can you live on history??? I think we need to bring in a GM to bring about some different ideas. Some changes need to happen

[El Guapo]

Shiite. He looks bewildered. I've never seen that out of Shanny before.


check out my new avatar. :~ohyah!:

[24champ]

check out my new avatar. :~ohyah!:

rep! :~ohyah!:

[Northman]

check out my new avatar. :~ohyah!:




lol

[KipCorrington25]

PLEASE, everybody remember that this was only one game. Most of you were excited about this team one week ago. Now we went and lost in a place that we have never won, and everyone is on suicide watch. The only thing that has changed was one game.

No Bronco coach has ever won in Miami. It sucks, and it was a game we should have been able to win. But let's see how the next two or three games go before we start firing coaches, speculating about number 1 overall draft picks, etc.

On a side note, I have found it interesting how many people who had not posted in a long time all of a sudden had a barrage of posts, starting yesterday. I swear, some people just aren't happy unless they have something to complain about.

Just because we have never won in Miami is no excuse to not even show up. In fact that should be more than enough motivation to come out like a house a fire. To just say, oh we play bad in Miami is a defeatist attitude and a huge part of the problem with Denver. You know what they say about excuses...

Miami is a bottom feeder and to just roll over and die like yesterday is a continuation of the problem Denver has had for the last 5 or 6 years.

[24champ]

Mav i countered your avatar. I dont usually post pics of my girlfreind but.....

[RhymesayersDU]

Maybe we'll get Kiki and Pat together. The Nuggets know how to fire and then hire a coach.

[watermock]

let's have an Avatar War.

[El Guapo]

Mav i countered your avatar. I dont usually post pics of my girlfreind but.....


not bad at all, rep! :wiggle:

[DBroncos4life]

Championship coaches don't grow on trees, but HOF QB's don't either. We have seen what Mike can do with an ELITE QB, and I would rather find Mike one of those instead of **** canning Mike.

[DBroncos4life]

I do think coaching changes need to be made though. No more in house crap. We need a ST teams coach that knows what he is doing. We need a new OC, sorry Kubes go coach college. A better QB coach would be nice as well.

[24champ]

let's have an Avatar War.

you need to change yours....

[El Guapo]

hey watermock, how about this:

http://www.road-school.com/199x/gacottonmouth.jpg

its a water moccasin. :D

[DomCasual]

Just because we have never won in Miami is no excuse to not even show up. In fact that should be more than enough motivation to come out like a house a fire. To just say, oh we play bad in Miami is a defeatist attitude and a huge part of the problem with Denver. You know what they say about excuses...

Miami is a bottom feeder and to just roll over and die like yesterday is a continuation of the problem Denver has had for the last 5 or 6 years.

I didn't say it is acceptable to just roll over and die. I said that it wasn't the end of the season to lose a game in a place that we had never won.

And Miami has long been one of the most consistent franchises in the NFL. Last year, they sucked. Other than that, they have been good for 8 - 12 wins a year. How do you figure they are bottom feeders? Did you start watching football last year?

But it is more fun (& easy) to b**** and moan, so why look at things objectively? Shanahan sucks. The Broncos are the dregs of the NFL. Jake Plummer copulates with farm animals. Champ Bailey has a potentially career-ending injury. Blah blah blah blah blah.

[RhymesayersDU]

I'm gunna go ahead and jump on the "change your avatar" bandwagon.

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[24champ]

I'm gunna go ahead and jump on the "change your avatar" bandwagon.

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rep...so long Fake!

[yavoon]

I watched it while the mane was down.. ticked me off cause it was nothing new. I especially liked when shanny said, "I dont know what went wrong, I cant really put my thumb on it."

I proceeded to yell, "Plummer you ditz!" :redpunch:

its been a fitting day, 1st the Broncos :injured: and then the mane :injured:

now sometimes coaches just dont tell the public anything. but honestly I think shanny really doesn't know what went wrong. and thats scary.

[24champ]

Mock heres your avatar.....

[TheDave]

Just to get a running total of what people are saying here...

Jake sucks...
O-Line can't run block...
O-Line Can't pass block...
Lelie Sucks...
Neither tight end can catch...
Neither tight end can block...
Shanahan is terminally burned out...
shanahan can't coach (gameplan)...
Shanahan can't motivate the team...
Shanahan can't make mid game adjustments...
Shanahan sucks as a GM...
Kubiac can't do anything right...
Our Defensive line still can't rush the passer...
Ian Gold really sucks...
our entire secondary (-champ) sucks...

Judging by all the cometary I'm reading here, either people are over-reacting or we are well on our way to 0-16...???

[ak1971]

Just to get a running total of what people are saying here...

Jake sucks...
O-Line can't run block...
O-Line Can't pass block...
Lelie Sucks...
Neither tight end can catch...
Neither tight end can block...
Shanahan is terminally burned out...
shanahan can't coach (gameplan)...
Shanahan can't motivate the team...
Shanahan can't make mid game adjustments...
Shanahan sucks as a GM...
Kubiac can't do anything right...
Our Defensive line still can't rush the passer...
Ian Gold really sucks...
our entire secondary (-champ) sucks...

Judging by all the cometary I'm reading here, either people are over-reacting or we are well on our way to 0-16...???


and gieco saved me a ton of money on car insurance

[RhymesayersDU]

Just to get a running total of what people are saying here...

Jake sucks...
O-Line can't run block...
O-Line Can't pass block...
Lelie Sucks...
Neither tight end can catch...
Neither tight end can block...
Shanahan is terminally burned out...
shanahan can't coach (gameplan)...
Shanahan can't motivate the team...
Shanahan can't make mid game adjustments...
Shanahan sucks as a GM...
Kubiac can't do anything right...
Our Defensive line still can't rush the passer...
Ian Gold really sucks...
our entire secondary (-champ) sucks...

Judging by all the cometary I'm reading here, either people are over-reacting or we are well on our way to 0-16...???
Sort of. The stuff about the line, lelie, the TEs, and the secondary, thats just said out of anger. Those guys will pick it up, IMO. They can play, and they will.

The stuff about Jake, Shanny, and Kubes... well that stuff, we've got a real problem with.

[TheDave]

and gieco saved me a ton of money on car insurance

finally some good news... :thumbsup:

[yavoon]

Just to get a running total of what people are saying here...

Jake sucks...
O-Line can't run block...
O-Line Can't pass block...
Lelie Sucks...
Neither tight end can catch...
Neither tight end can block...
Shanahan is terminally burned out...
shanahan can't coach (gameplan)...
Shanahan can't motivate the team...
Shanahan can't make mid game adjustments...
Shanahan sucks as a GM...
Kubiac can't do anything right...
Our Defensive line still can't rush the passer...
Ian Gold really sucks...
our entire secondary (-champ) sucks...

Judging by all the cometary I'm reading here, either people are over-reacting or we are well on our way to 0-16...???

to duplicate the performance we'd easily make 0-16, infact they might give us 0-17 or 0-18 just for effect.

[RhymesayersDU]

to duplicate the performance we'd easily make 0-16, infact they might give us 0-17 or 0-18 just for effect.
At least then we'd be assured to draft the man.

And I could wear a bag over my head to games.

[yavoon]

At least then we'd be assured to draft the man.

And I could wear a bag over my head to games.

that would be cool, cut eye holes out but then wear the bag backwards.

[Sideburn]

I changed mine yesterday when I got home. Out of the 3 years I've been here, this is only the 3rd time I've changed it. It's stays until the fake is gone.

[RhymesayersDU]

rofl

I should do that. The Monday night game is too early to panic, but that Pats game could have "wear a bag on your head" written all over it.

[TheDave]

Everyone needs to relax, I'm sure that game was a fluke. There is no way in hell our team is that bad. If they are then all the Jake and Shanny haters will get their wish. If we end up going 3-13 I'll guarantee Bowlen cleans house. My bet is that we will see a much different team over the next few weeks. And yes I'm wearing the foam horse head and a pair of Bronco underoos as i type...

[dsmoot]

I don't think it was Boo time, I think it was the proper time to stand by your team. Yeah, Denver sucked, but you don't desert your team.

We have plenty of touch questions.

Maybe I missed it on the telecast, but I want to see him on the sideline getting in someones face to pick it up ... the OLine, the TE's and WR who couldn't get open, etc. Lets see some game time passion in light of poor play, not just talk about it on Monday. My kids put it quite accurately when they were younger and we were watching a special on Vince Lombardi ..... Dad, I don't like him, he's mean!!! Thats what I would like. Is he done? He certainly needs some help.

[gunns]

Sort of. The stuff about the line, lelie, the TEs, and the secondary, thats just said out of anger. Those guys will pick it up, IMO. They can play, and they will.

The stuff about Jake, Shanny, and Kubes... well that stuff, we've got a real problem with.

I don't think saying that about the O line is out of anger. We were here complaining and worried about the O line in preseason.

[Rock Chalk]

same ole same ole after a loss

I found it interesting that Shanny said Jake only had one bad pass and that was the interception.
By bad pass, I think Shanny means interception. Because there were more than a few errant throws.

[Rock Chalk]

Well lets see, we have two primetime games and a game in December in KC. Thats three gauranteed more losses on the year (going by history guys, I have hope though!).

At best 12-4. Sounds good to me.

[24champ]

Eagles dont look so good so maybe this caps a wacky weekend. They are about to go down 14-0. I think broncos bounce back this weekend, i cant say that translates to a W, we arent playing an easy team plus we are banged up but i think we will see much much better improvement.

[Atlas]

I wonder what the threads will look like next week after Denver destroys the Chargers????

[24champ]

I wonder what the threads will look like next week after Denver destroys the Chargers????

oh yeah like we were supposed to destroy the dolphins??? Look we are facing gates, LT, Brees. I dont think its a sure thing.

[Atlas]

oh yeah like we were supposed to destroy the dolphins??? Look we are facing gates, LT, Brees. I dont think its a sure thing.

I didn't say it's a sure thing. I just want to read what you guys say next week When Denver is tied for first in the AFC West and routed the Chargers.

Gee maybe the season isn't over???
Gee maybe we jumped the gum???

[Sassy]

I didn't say it's a sure thing. I just want to read what you guys say next week When Denver is tied for first in the AFC West and routed the Chargers.

Gee maybe the season isn't over???
Gee maybe we jumped the gum???
Plummer for MVP...
Shanny for Coach of the Year ;)

[24champ]

I didn't say it's a sure thing. I just want to read what you guys say next week When Denver is tied for first in the AFC West and routed the Chargers.

Gee maybe the season isn't over???
Gee maybe we jumped the gum???

well the dolphins game sure gave us a reality check, look the team is going to have to come out on all cylinders. I think the crowd at invesco should be helpful. Last week didnt look to good and i think we need to take a step back and see what went wrong on the tape.

[Atlas]

well the dolphins game sure gave us a reality check, look the team is going to have to come out on all cylinders. I think the crowd at invesco should be helpful. Last week didnt look to good and i think we need to take a step back and see what went wrong on the tape.

It was 6-3 when Denver had lost 2 of their starting CBs.Then they lost a third and it was 108 degrees. The offense played poorly but I thought the defense played their best considering the circumstances. A couple of sustained offensive drives would have helped.

I have been around to long. I know better than to draw my conclusions from one game.

[Play2win]

I'm gunna go ahead and jump on the "change your avatar" bandwagon.

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Since I missed out on all the ADOPT-A-BRONCO fun, I'm going to go ahead and call it now-

MATT LEINART is my new ADOPT-A-BRONCO!!!

:militia: !Booya! :militia:

[24champ]

It was 6-3 when Denver had lost 2 of their starting CBs.Then they lost a third and it was 108 degrees. The offense played poorly but I thought the defense played their best considering the circumstances. A couple of sustained offensive drives would have helped.

I have been around to long. I know better than to draw my conclusions from one game.

the problem is they made the same mistakes as last year, how many times were we in the redzone and blew it? Denverbroncos.com is full of it when they say shanny and co worked really hard on making new plays for the redzone, i sure as hell didnt see anything new.

[El Guapo]

oh yeah like we were supposed to destroy the dolphins??? Look we are facing gates, LT, Brees. I dont think its a sure thing.


gates was suspended for 4 games.. we're ok in that department. (whew)

[24champ]

gates was suspended for 4 games.. we're ok in that department. (whew)
nah it was one.....

[Kaylore]

Just to get a running total of what people are saying here...

Jake sucks...
O-Line can't run block...
O-Line Can't pass block...
Lelie Sucks...
Neither tight end can catch...
Neither tight end can block...
Shanahan is terminally burned out...
shanahan can't coach (gameplan)...
Shanahan can't motivate the team...
Shanahan can't make mid game adjustments...
Shanahan sucks as a GM...
Kubiac can't do anything right...
Our Defensive line still can't rush the passer...
Ian Gold really sucks...
our entire secondary (-champ) sucks...

Judging by all the cometary I'm reading here, either people are over-reacting or we are well on our way to 0-16...???

All from one loss. Wow. We're getting worse than last year. I can't believe that people are demanding that Shanahan walk out immediately. There's even threads about changing owners! Well there is nothing anyone can do about that.

[TheDave]

All from one loss. Wow. We're getting worse than last year. I can't believe that people are demanding that Shanahan walk out immediately. There's even threads about changing owners! Well there is nothing anyone can do about that.

Keep in mind this is the same group that went nuts 12 hours into free agency... by comparison this is pretty mild:)

[Kaylore]

Keep in mind this is the same group that went nuts 12 hours into free agency... by comparison this is pretty mild:)
A very good point. I think I'm going to take a break from the Mane until after the game. It's too crazy in here right now.

[B-Love]

I can't listen to Shanny say "disappointed" anymore. He says that 10 times per losing Press Conference.

It bothers me almost as much as when watermock uses that faggy feminine word "amusing". What a nerdy word for a guy to say.

[Vegas_Bronco]

B-Love can I 'amuse' you too! jk - how in the hell can you be a broncos fan and live in Long Island? Now that's amusing and because I am-using the word it is amusing- you cute bitch get over here!

Shanny:'disappointed';watermock:'amusing' - its okay bro, mock is no femmy!

[footstepsfrom#27]

I can't remember seeing Shanny look like that. He appears to me like a guy who's just about ready to drop it and walk. No fire. No anger. Just resignation. Maybe he's just burned out. Ten years in his position is a prescription for getting cooked. At least he didn't breakdown and start weeping, like another coach I could mention. ;D

Just judging by Shanny's demeanor on that tape, I'm not holding out much hope against the Chargers. They may have barely lost to the Cowboys, but they played with fire. If this is what Shanny is going to bring to the week, resignation, I don't see things getting turned around anytime soon. Shiite. He looks bewildered. I've never seen that out of Shanny before.
I agree. I think the Coach/GM thing is to much to handle, not more than 2-3 years anyway. He does look burned out. The problem is we can't do anything about it because Bowlen is so happy polishing those 2 Lombardi's he's deluded himself into thinking Mike can do no wrong. About the only thing I can think of that would change his mind is if Elway went to him and told him he think's Shanny's lost it.

[Circle Orange]

A very good point. I think I'm going to take a break from the Mane until after the game. It's too crazy in here right now.


Kaylore, I love that image. Nothing like a little open panic to get things going. :o
Meanwhile, everyone should keep in mind coaches never attack their players publicly. You can be sure Jake and company heard an earful after the game behind closed doors. That plane ride home must've been pretty quiet.

[bronco_diesel]

I can't remember seeing Shanny look like that. He appears to me like a guy who's just about ready to drop it and walk. No fire. No anger. Just resignation. Maybe he's just burned out. Ten years in his position is a prescription for getting cooked. At least he didn't breakdown and start weeping, like another coach I could mention. ;D

Just judging by Shanny's demeanor on that tape, I'm not holding out much hope against the Chargers. They may have barely lost to the Cowboys, but they played with fire. If this is what Shanny is going to bring to the week, resignation, I don't see things getting turned around anytime soon. Shiite. He looks bewildered. I've never seen that out of Shanny before.

i want to disagree with you...but i have sensed the same thing over the past couple of years.

when the broncos were on the 3 year string with all the victories and two rings, shanny really had the look. he was all business, his eyes could peirce through a mans soul and anything less than near perfection was not acceptable. he was the shrewdest of the shrewd.

sometimes i still see the same look in him, but honestly i feel like the look i see more often is bewildered. i hate to say that, as i still feel shanny can be the best coach in this league.

shanny has been humbled. there is nothing wrong with being humbled if you know how to respond to it. that guy in NE is a good example of that.

i don't get so caught up in what shanny says in his press conference...yes, it would be nice to hear him just admit he's been outcoached etc...but his press conferences are always predictable...he's always been fairly vanilla in his press conferences.

what does bother me is the lack of imagination on the feild. this analogy is silly, but it works here: when i play madden, i have developed plays that are guarantees for me. over time the defenses adjust to my style of play calling - and eventually the same plays don't work anymore. i get stubborn thinking back at how much yardage/scores they gained me in, so i keep using them...and before you know it, i am going 3 and out. i feel like the same stubborness is there with shanny's game plan. granted, i am just a monday morning qb...but man, i can predict the plays while watching...if i can do that...what is a seasoned d-c doing?

it's time to get innovative again. pull out the stops...go deeper in the play book. there is far too much talent on this team to be this bland. i am afraid though, the coaching personell isn't there to do it. i don't get the impression that kubiak has the balls to throw it out there. i am afraid the o-line isn't all that....

but alas, it is just one game. here is to hoping that an 0-1 start is exactly what this franchise needs for a wakeup call. it's better to get a wakeup call early in the season, rather than mid season when the feeling of invincible is creeping in. they know now that they have to be on top of their game every sunday to have a chance - coaches included....perhaps this is the best thing that could have happened to them!

[ND Bronco Fan]

A very good point. I think I'm going to take a break from the Mane until after the game. It's too crazy in here right now.

I had cut off listening to the radio stream of 950 The Fan and reading the Post for the past two days for the same reason.

Can't handle the throw out everything but the kitchen sink attitudes of some. Does Denver have problems, sure, can they be fixed, absolutely.

We are in the same position as the Raiders, Chargers, Vikings, Jets, Eagles....Is the ship sinking in every one of those towns? (Well lets not include the Vikings in that cuz they jumped off the ship in the second quarter) but my point is, We are still a talented team and this was one game, one stinking game.

[bloodsunday]

I can't listen to Shanny say "disappointed" anymore. He says that 10 times per losing Press Conference.

It bothers me almost as much as when watermock uses that faggy feminine word "amusing". What a nerdy word for a guy to say.
Agreed. I think the fans could identify with Shanny better if he showed some emotion once in a while. He uses so many cliches and holds back so much of his intensity during press conferences that you could almost feel as though he doesn't care. I wanna see him come out and say that these guys' asses are on the line. I wann see him say that Ashely Lelie needs to pick it up for Charlie Adams will keep ascending the depth chart. As fans we were fired up yesterday and it doesn't help when Shanny comes out and drops the cliche bomb.

Kind of a minor deal really, but something I'd like to see him try once in a while. I think he lets these guys off to easy and the level of accountability needs to be cranked up at Dove Valley.

[bloodsunday]

I had cut off listening to the radio stream of 950 The Fan and reading the Post for the past two days for the same reason.

Can't handle the throw out everything but the kitchen sink attitudes of some. Does Denver have problems, sure, can they be fixed, absolutely.

We are in the same position as the Raiders, Chargers, Vikings, Jets, Eagles....Is the ship sinking in every one of those towns? (Well lets not include the Vikings in that cuz they jumped off the ship in the second quarter) but my point is, We are still a talented team and this was one game, one stinking game.
Don't forget the Rams. The Rams, Vikings, and Jets were just as pathetic as we were. I expected the Jets to lose, but they didn't show up either. The Chargers, Raiders, and Eagles all played respectably.

Anyway...You know we gotta roll with it. This is our team. Yeah they have warts and yeah the local media likes to examine them at nasium. But so what? If the team turns it around then we can give them a big **** burger to eat. It's the tough times that make you appreciate the good times. Imagine what it will be like next Monday when San Diego is 0 - 2. If Oakland manages to beat KC (which I am predicting), then life will look much better.

[ZachKC]

btw what happened to the mane? We must have gotten blindsided by a Dolphin?
They sneak up.

[orangenblue]

I love that avatar Taco.

[NaptownChief]

same ole same ole after a loss

I found it interesting that Shanny said Jake only had one bad pass and that was the interception.


Wow...I only caught pieces and parts of the game and I saw a ton more than one bad pass. He must have been watching a different game.

[NaptownChief]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/snation/coaches?coachId=25


His approval rating is pretty solid: 86% against, 14% for

[watermock]

I had cut off listening to the radio stream of 950 The Fan and reading the Post for the past two days for the same reason.

Can't handle the throw out everything but the kitchen sink attitudes of some. Does Denver have problems, sure, can they be fixed, absolutely.

We are in the same position as the Raiders, Chargers, Vikings, Jets, Eagles....Is the ship sinking in every one of those towns? (Well lets not include the Vikings in that cuz they jumped off the ship in the second quarter) but my point is, We are still a talented team and this was one game, one stinking game.

The Vikings had the game won despite 5 turnovers from CullPecker...Philly certainly had it's chances...the Raiders managed to at least put up 20 on NE...

Only the Jets (I think Pennington is done, he doesn't have an arm anymore), and even worse, Denver. Simply saying other favored teams lost doesn't come close to the egg, no...turd, that Denver left in Miami.

[ND Bronco Fan]

Simply saying other favored teams lost doesn't come close to the egg, no...turd, that Denver left in Miami.


I understand that but the point was that it was one game, Come Sunday I am going to be as jacked up for them to win as I was the first week, come rain or shine I aint going to cry about every thing down to the water boy not doing his job and that being the reason we lost.

[Rock Chalk]

I understand that but the point was that it was one game, Come Sunday I am going to be as jacked up for them to win as I was the first week, come rain or shine I aint going to cry about every thing down to the water boy not doing his job and that being the reason we lost.
So, if after week three we are Oh Fer Three, what will you say?

[ND Bronco Fan]

So, if after week three we are Oh Fer Three, what will you say?


At that point then its time to reevaluate. Just weird how so many peoples opinions can change in one week from Shanahan and company being a genius for stealing all of Clevelands D-Line to Jake being ready to take the team to a new level after the preseason he had and right down the line to now this....everyone on the team being worthless.

Not saying that I am ok with getting their arses handed to them but I have no problem giving them a chance to redeem themselves. If they go 0-3 they I will admit we have a problem.

[Sideburn]

I understand that but the point was that it was one game, Come Sunday I am going to be as jacked up for them to win as I was the first week, come rain or shine I aint going to cry about every thing down to the water boy not doing his job and that being the reason we lost.
Ya know, the waterboy did seem to fail at his job. Too much cramping.

[ND Bronco Fan]

Ya know, the waterboy did seem to fail at his job. Too much cramping.


Yeah I know, I kinda chuckled to myself when I typed that one cuz that is the only excuse I have not heard but someone could have.

[RaiderH8r]

I had cut off listening to the radio stream of 950 The Fan and reading the Post for the past two days for the same reason.

Can't handle the throw out everything but the kitchen sink attitudes of some. Does Denver have problems, sure, can they be fixed, absolutely.

We are in the same position as the Raiders, Chargers, Vikings, Jets, Eagles....Is the ship sinking in every one of those towns? (Well lets not include the Vikings in that cuz they jumped off the ship in the second quarter) but my point is, We are still a talented team and this was one game, one stinking game.
The difference is, with the exception of the Jets, that those teams played competitively. Denver laid a turd out there to an inferior team. A game that should have been won by 20+ was dropped. We've been beating the drum for years about creating turnovers and when the D gets it done the O goes out and plays dead. Just rolls over. That's what's so aggrivating about this loss. It was dispassionate play and playcalling. Broncos teams are usually some of the best conditioned in the league and our O was flat out gassed after warm ups. It was sickening and will remain so until this squad can prove otherwise. You're only as good as your last game and that last one was abysmal. I'm going to throw up now.

[RaiderH8r]

They sneak up.
That's why I still eat tuna. Catch all the dolphins you want in the nets boys. Those little f!ckers are devious little sh!ts.

[Rohirrim]

I noticed a nice little play that Andy Reid threw in last night that was a screen to the RB set off of a reverse. The WR came in fast toward the backfield as the RB was drifting out slow, as if blocking the backside pursuit, while one guard pulled. Went for about twenty and completely befuddled the defense. I thought, "That was a sharp little play." Sure would like to see Shanny put some stuff like that in.

[RaiderH8r]

I noticed a nice little play that Andy Reid threw in last night that was a screen to the RB set off of a reverse. The WR came in fast toward the backfield as the RB was drifting out slow, as if blocking the backside pursuit, while one guard pulled. Went for about twenty and completely befuddled the defense. I thought, "That was a sharp little play." Sure would like to see Shanny put some stuff like that in.
That was a nifty little play but that play was vanilla with nuts. Kubes runs vanilla...no nuts.

[bronco_diesel]

I noticed a nice little play that Andy Reid threw in last night that was a screen to the RB set off of a reverse. The WR came in fast toward the backfield as the RB was drifting out slow, as if blocking the backside pursuit, while one guard pulled. Went for about twenty and completely befuddled the defense. I thought, "That was a sharp little play." Sure would like to see Shanny put some stuff like that in.

how bout the shovel pass? how come we never see that anymore?

[Popps]

Finally watched the press conference. Interesting that when pressed.... Shanahan brought up Lelie's name as a guy who's got to make plays when they're there. (Speaking of A$$' TD drop on 3rd and 5 at the endzone.) Harped on the lack of run game, poor protection and Ashley's bad play.

Stupid coach... he doesn't know what he's talking about.

[Needa Pass Rush]

This is a picture of Shanny at Monday's practice.

This would make a kickin' avatar. Too bad I'm not ready to give Sarah the boot. ;)



http://www.kinoweb.de/film2000/ChickenRun/pix/cr-7.jpg

[ND Bronco Fan]

Originally Posted by ND Bronco Fan
I understand that but the point was that it was one game, Come Sunday I am going to be as jacked up for them to win as I was the first week, come rain or shine I aint going to cry about every thing down to the water boy not doing his job and that being the reason we lost.


So, if after week three we are Oh Fer Three, what will you say?


I had to bookmark this thread after the week one loss at Miami, The board was tough to take and it is fun to look back at some peoples opinions on the season.

[bendog]

Originally Posted by ND Bronco Fan
I understand that but the point was that it was one game, Come Sunday I am going to be as jacked up for them to win as I was the first week, come rain or shine I aint going to cry about every thing down to the water boy not doing his job and that being the reason we lost.





I had to bookmark this thread after the week one loss at Miami, The board was tough to take and it is fun to look back at some peoples opinions on the season.
You as evil as my wife (-:

[ND Bronco Fan]

Alec there you are-saw you posted on another thread, you seemed like in that thread you were a little more optimistic than in this one, hate to call you out cuz there were a bunch of people jumping off the ship.

[yavoon]

Alec there you are-saw you posted on another thread, you seemed like in that thread you were a little more optimistic than in this one, hate to call you out cuz there were a bunch of people jumping off the ship.

u think all the reasonable criticisms dissappear now that shannahan has moved vermeil from 0-4 in invesco to 0-5?

[ND Bronco Fan]

u think all the reasonable criticisms dissappear now that shannahan has moved vermeil from 0-4 in invesco to 0-5?


Nah, just was the point that the world was not coming to an end after week 1 in the season........Was fun to look back at all the skeptics and see how they feel after last nights win.

[ND Bronco Fan]

Originally Posted by TheDave
Just to get a running total of what people are saying here...

Jake sucks...
O-Line can't run block...
O-Line Can't pass block...
Lelie Sucks...
Neither tight end can catch...
Neither tight end can block...
Shanahan is terminally burned out...
shanahan can't coach (gameplan)...
Shanahan can't motivate the team...
Shanahan can't make mid game adjustments...
Shanahan sucks as a GM...
Kubiac can't do anything right...
Our Defensive line still can't rush the passer...
Ian Gold really sucks...
our entire secondary (-champ) sucks...

Judging by all the cometary I'm reading here, either people are over-reacting or we are well on our way to 0-16...


That was an earlier post by "The Dave" and sums up the first five pages pretty well.

[Atlas]

Originally Posted by TheDave
Just to get a running total of what people are saying here...

Jake sucks...
O-Line can't run block...
O-Line Can't pass block...
Lelie Sucks...
Neither tight end can catch...
Neither tight end can block...
Shanahan is terminally burned out...
shanahan can't coach (gameplan)...
Shanahan can't motivate the team...
Shanahan can't make mid game adjustments...
Shanahan sucks as a GM...
Kubiac can't do anything right...
Our Defensive line still can't rush the passer...
Ian Gold really sucks...
our entire secondary (-champ) sucks...

Judging by all the cometary I'm reading here, either people are over-reacting or we are well on our way to 0-16...


That was an earlier post by "The Dave" and sums up the first five pages pretty well.

Yep the gloom and doom crowd. The lurk in the shadows and wait for something to overreact to.

[ND Bronco Fan]

Yep the gloom and doom crowd. The lurk in the shadows and wait for something to overreact to.

I suck at conveying a point so it does not surprise me but finally, someone appreciated the same thing as me.