Trevor Pryce and Assley Lelie

[Popps]

**** both of these guys.

Lelie looks as lost as usual... running bad routes and dropping TDs. He added a couple of penalties to his act today, though. Gotta appreciate that.

Did Trevor Pryce suit up? We should have traded this schmuck when we had the chance.

Certainly a lot of blame to go around today, but those are two of our supposed "stars" who just continue to add nothing to this team. I hope we bench Lelie for Adams or Watts next week. He's horrific.

[Nuggets4]

Not sure I agree with you on Pryce, but I'm sick of Lelie's "potential". Give me guys like Charlie Adams and Rod Smith starting. Put Lelie on the bench.

[DBruleU]

Lelie is capable of playing better, but freakin Pryce sucks! We should have just traded him for draft picks or something. This game makes me sick.

[Garcia Bronco]

nobody would take pryce

[Popps]

Not sure I agree with you on Pryce, but I'm sick of Lelie's "potential". Give me guys like Charlie Adams and Rod Smith starting. Put Lelie on the bench.

Agree on Adams, and even Watts has shown better route running... just shaky hands.

As for Pryce, think back and tell me the last time he could even be spotted in a big game.

Opening day... road game.... time to set the tempo for the season... I swear, I never even saw Pryce in camera view. I'm not joking when I ask if he suited up. He's a disgrace.

[WaffleBoy]

Assley Lelie? Hilarious!

The Boy Wonder :super:

[Popps]

nobody would take pryce

Looks like "nobody" knew what they were doing.

[phillybroncosnut]

Add Steven Alexander to this list! Along with the joke we have for our KO "specialist". The only "Special" thing he should have in his title is "Special Olympics"! What a disgrace that Ernster is cashing an NFL paycheck!

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Pryce?

I thought HE ALONE was going to make your d-line better.

[Rohirrim]

ASSley only makes catches when the game is in the bag, one way or the other. When the game is on the line, ASSley goes invisible.

[F**kOakland]

Where are the fans after a loss like this!!!!

[DB-Freak]

Pryce?

I thought HE ALONE was going to make your d-line better.
A WEEE BIT.

Just a wee bit.

[Rohirrim]

Where are the fans after a loss like this!!!!

The first question to ask is where were the players?

[Taco John]

How does Plummer possibly escape being mentioned here?

Coconut Fingers sucked, no doubt. Pryce dissappeared, for sure. Plummer looked like he was eternally trapped in the first quarter of the Indianapolis game. You can't just point at Lelie for Plummer's problems. He was awful.

[broncosteven]

Where are the fans after a loss like this!!!!

I showed up for my a$$ kicking just like Donkeys did, that was all they did. Chargers look good again.

[jayman_37]

part of the problem with pryce is the fact that they could just throw quick short passes because our corners were playing 10 yards off the ball. Not much of a chance to get pressure when they run that short of routes and quick passes

[broncosteven]

How does Plummer possibly escape being mentioned here?

Coconut Fingers sucked, no doubt. Pryce dissappeared, for sure. Plummer looked like he was eternally trapped in the first quarter of the Indianapolis game. You can't just point at Lelie for Plummer's problems. He was awful.

The wobbler to Alexander on a 3rd & 5 when they were still in it was pitifull.

Then Deadskins win to boot, only way we are getting top 5 pick is with our own pick not Washingtons.

[bronco militia]

Plummer looked like he was eternally trapped in the first quarter of the Indianapolis game. You can't just point at Lelie for Plummer's problems. He was awful.


bingo.... the team from top to bottom looked like they had no clue today.

[DrFate]

How does Plummer possibly escape being mentioned here?

Coconut Fingers sucked, no doubt. Pryce dissappeared, for sure. Plummer looked like he was eternally trapped in the first quarter of the Indianapolis game. You can't just point at Lelie for Plummer's problems. He was awful.

Plummer didn't have much accuracy today, he was all over the place. There were drops, too.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Then Deadskins win to boot, only way we are getting top 5 pick is with our own pick not Washingtons.

They mananged 3 FGs against one of the worst teams in the NFL starting a 4th-round rookie at QB. They didn't exactly set the world on fire.

[ScottXray]

part of the problem with pryce is the fact that they could just throw quick short passes because our corners were playing 10 yards off the ball. Not much of a chance to get pressure when they run that short of routes and quick passes

Right ...a big mistake was all the blitzing in the game. I think we blitzed on almost every down..and left the secondary hanging. and playing off so far meant they had an easy 6-7 yards. If they were going to blitz so much they should have the secondary at least trying to jam on the line.

face it our offense left the
d out there the whole game and they got tired.

BAD game plan all around.
:undecided

[Kaylore]

I think a lot fo you are overreacting. We got beat in every possible way. Let's wait and see how we look next week.

[Popps]

How does Plummer possibly escape being mentioned here?

Coconut Fingers sucked, no doubt. Pryce dissappeared, for sure. Plummer looked like he was eternally trapped in the first quarter of the Indianapolis game. You can't just point at Lelie for Plummer's problems. He was awful.

Taco, he escapes mention because it's a thread dedicated to Pryce and Lelie. Go start a **** Plummer thread.

I CAN point at lelie for being horrible. He's lost on every other play. He can't run short routes, he dropped a TD, he gave up on the play where Plummer had to scramble near the endzone, he had two penalties and couldn't get separation the entire game... and the one time he did, Plummer floated a nice pass for him that he simply had to run under. What's he do? He STOPS and runs back towards the ****ing DB. Great instincts, ASSley.

He's an embarrassment. He'll catch the occasional bomb and is useless, otherwise. He's a poor man's James Jett.

As for Plummer... gee, why might he have looked trapped? Did you notice the 4 Dolphins up his asshole every time he took a snap? How about the DBs draped all over his receivers. Then there's that fantastic running game.
Yea, I suppose he should have rose above having absolutely no support or protection.

[GonzoLays]

Calm down fellas its only one freaking game. You act like the roof is caving in. Sure, we lost, but when was the last time we won in Miami? We were suppose to lose this game. We don't adjust well to the climate down there.

Everybody, BREATH...

[GonzoLays]

Watch, all you guys are going to be licking Pryce's and Lelie's balls by game three of the season....fairweather fans

[Broncoman13]

Jake, Alexander, Ash, Walls, Wilson, Gold, the list goes on and on. Certainly Shanny's piss poor game plan needs to be mentioned here!

First off Jake couldn't throw to save his life. And when he did throw a strike Ash or Alexander or Jeb acted suprised and couldn't make the catch.

What the hell was Shanny's problem? The play calling was HORRIBLE! Down inside the 5 and he couldn't come up with even a decent play call. We get a free play and Ash goes cocofingers on us. Frustrating game is an understatement.

Honestly, it's hard to be upset with anybody on defense. They were out there for what close to 40 minutes! We can't expect them to play well for 40 minutes in Denver... let alone the sauna in Miami!!! That goes on Shanny. Piss poor game management.

I've said it for weeks. This game was an FU game. It was a trap game for many reasons. Playing in Miami. Playing a new HC...that happens to be a defensive master mind. It's not the end of the season, but you can bet the media will be ALL OVER the Broncos and Shanny... and rightfully so. I liken Saban's success to the success of Coyer his first season. A lot of people knew his philosophy, but not many people knew how he'd call it.

Here's to going 15-1!!! A long shot!

[Raidersbane]

The O-line did not impress at all. No movement whatsoever in short yardage. This is where we have to start. No o-line = no offense

[OrangeCrush2724]

Calm down fellas its only one freaking game. You act like the roof is caving in. Sure, we lost, but when was the last time we won in Miami? We were suppose to lose this game. We don't adjust well to the climate down there.

Everybody, BREATH...

We werent' suppose to loose this game. We played a "lesser" opponent then us. These are they type of games you have to win. We almost always play to the skill of our opponent.

I give Miami props for alot. But I don't buy that we were suppose to loose this game.

[ludo21]

I think a lot fo you are overreacting. We got beat in every possible way. Let's wait and see how we look next week.


you think?? they definitely are.. Its embarrassing for you guys to be ragging on our team now! 1 loss is nothing. Sure we normally start hot, but i think a good kick in the rear end is something this team sorely needed.

We need to learn from our mistakes, and move on to next week. Shanny and Coyer will fix the problems and hopefully it shows against the Chargers.

[Hulamau]

Dallas up 14-7 over SD in 2nd quarter

[kirby33]

plummer hit all the recievers in the hands in the first half, not plummers fault at all, bad play calling, bad recievers,

[ludo21]

plummer hit all the recievers in the hands in the first half, not plummers fault at all, bad play calling, bad recievers,


Plummer played smart, amd iw as proud of him for not forcing it. Hopefully he does that again next week and with some better calls, something good will happen. "Its just a matter of time"

[Flyboy063]

plummer hit all the recievers in the hands in the first half, not plummers fault at all, bad play calling, bad recievers,

Plummer didn't hit the receivers in the hands. :kiddingme He was throwing high and behind his receivers, most of his throws in the first half looked like wounded ducks. He hung Rod out a few times. I like Plummer. I like his moxie, but this was a horrible outing for him. I agree that Lelie, Putz, and Alexander did drop passes, but a lot of it was Plummer's accuracy.

As far as the running game goes. Our Oline just got the tar beat out of them.

The Broncos will recover next week and we will see a completely different performance from all of them. This was an embarassing, shocking game that will kick the team into high gear.

Hopefully Champ will be ready to go next week. :pray:

[DivineLegion]

I can sum up what happened in one sentance...

The three players we needed to show up...dident!

Hasent this been a problem with Pryce since the day he was drafted??? Dude Put in Endgelberger He can get it done. The real good question is whos heads resting on the executioners block. The axe is gonna fall if we lose five strait...I could understand four because the way those teams look and the way this one is playing it might take four games to get into the right gear. But if we lose to a team like Washington heads will roll!

[Rock Chalk]

Im reluctant to say anything overly negative about the team just yet.

I cant believe that we are going to be that bad all year. I cant believe that Denver is that bad of a team that they will play like this ever again. This was the worst game I have seen Denver play in a very very long time and Ive seen some really ugly stuff just since Elway retired.

Do I think it is because the team is as bad as they played? No. But I do think that the hype machine in Denver needs to take about a decade long break.

[x123z]

We can't look any worse next week. All up from here.

[FADERPROOF]

How does Plummer possibly escape being mentioned here?

Coconut Fingers sucked, no doubt. Pryce dissappeared, for sure. Plummer looked like he was eternally trapped in the first quarter of the Indianapolis game. You can't just point at Lelie for Plummer's problems. He was awful.

Just curious, but do you plan on turning every blame thread into s Jake Plummer thread?

I just want to know so I can avoid those topics in the future.

[Rock Chalk]

Thats Taco's way. He says things to inflame the board so post count goes up. Thats all.

[Pat Bowlen]

The real good question is whos heads resting on the executioners block.
I nominate your spelling teacher.

[Bronoc57]

Agree on Adams, and even Watts has shown better route running... just shaky hands.

As for Pryce, think back and tell me the last time he could even be spotted in a big game.

Opening day... road game.... time to set the tempo for the season... I swear, I never even saw Pryce in camera view. I'm not joking when I ask if he suited up. He's a disgrace.

Frankly the whole D-Line was nonexistent. Trevor was just one of four noshows today.

[Bronoc57]

Where are the fans after a loss like this!!!!

Loss today or not, I will still be in front of the tube next Sunday. I'm a Bronco fan win or lose-but a critical one. We have every right to have high expectations for the team; Shanahan himself has raised them. The Broncos will need every win they can get this season-they can ill afford to disappear like they did today.

[Nuggets4]

I'm not overreacting. I've never been a Lelie fan. I want a physical type of reciever. He routinely comes up short on catches.

Maybe I'm just spoiled because I remember watching Ed, Rod and Shannon. If the ball was NEAR them, they'd catch it. Ashley doesn't seem to have the same desire IMO.

[Taco John]

Thats Taco's way. He says things to inflame the board so post count goes up. Thats all.



Huh? What do I care about the post count. I don't have any concerns about the post count. I couldn't even tell you what it's at.

I say it because I believe it. That's my only motivation.

[DB-Freak]

Huh? What do I care about the post count. I don't have any concerns about the post count. I couldn't even tell you what it's at.

I say it because I believe it. That's my only motivation.
No worries Taco.

It's just Alec's little backhand insults since he really can't fully unleash himself. The guy is itching to get after you.

[No1BroncoFan]

The Broncos will recover next week and we will see a completely different performance from all of them. This was an embarassing, shocking game that will kick the team into high gear.
Herein lies the problem with the Broncos since Elway left. Every opportunity we've had to kick the crap out of a lesser oppoent we've lost or just barely managed a win. Shanahan's motivational abilities are right on par with his in game adjustment ability, damned near non-existant! I'me sure we'll be up for next week's game, but why do we have to kicked in the teeth by lower tier teams to get motivatred? Why the f*ck isn't Shanahan motivating the team better?

Ben

[WaffleBoy]

No worries Taco.

It's just Alec's little backhand insults since he really can't fully unleash himself. The guy is itching to get after you.

Hilarious!

The Boy Wonder :super:

[DB-Freak]

Hilarious!

The Boy Wonder :super:
It's so obivous it's pathetic.

Little stupid potshots here and there.

[16-JakE-16]

ugh

[rbackfactory80]

Jake, Alexander, Ash, Walls, Wilson, Gold, the list goes on and on. Certainly Shanny's piss poor game plan needs to be mentioned here!

First off Jake couldn't throw to save his life. And when he did throw a strike Ash or Alexander or Jeb acted suprised and couldn't make the catch.

What the hell was Shanny's problem? The play calling was HORRIBLE! Down inside the 5 and he couldn't come up with even a decent play call. We get a free play and Ash goes cocofingers on us. Frustrating game is an understatement.

Honestly, it's hard to be upset with anybody on defense. They were out there for what close to 40 minutes! We can't expect them to play well for 40 minutes in Denver... let alone the sauna in Miami!!! That goes on Shanny. Piss poor game management.

I've said it for weeks. This game was an FU game. It was a trap game for many reasons. Playing in Miami. Playing a new HC...that happens to be a defensive master mind. It's not the end of the season, but you can bet the media will be ALL OVER the Broncos and Shanny... and rightfully so. I liken Saban's success to the success of Coyer his first season. A lot of people knew his philosophy, but not many people knew how he'd call it.

Here's to going 15-1!!! A long shot!


I was thinking that to myself. TRAP GAME. But isn't a trap game when you are playing well first then go play another team that sucks and lose. Horrible effort, and I do think some of the blame should be on the defense/coordinator. It seems no matter what personel we bring in to this team the same outcome is found.

[bloodsunday]

11 am is just before our wake up call comes. We never play well in the EST.

[rbackfactory80]

Herein lies the problem with the Broncos since Elway left. Every opportunity we've had to kick the crap out of a lesser oppoent we've lost or just barely managed a win. Shanahan's motivational abilities are right on par with his in game adjustment ability, damned near non-existant! I'me sure we'll be up for next week's game, but why do we have to kicked in the teeth by lower tier teams to get motivatred? Why the **** isn't Shanahan motivating the team better?

Ben

Because that is not who Shanahan is. He is a x's and o's guy. If you want a motivator we probably could try to pick up herm edwards since he will probably be out of a job after their opening in Kansas City.

[bloodsunday]

Plummer sucked, no doubt. But he was hardly the worst thing going.

[rbackfactory80]

11 am is just before our wake up call comes. We never play well in the EST.

Well if you want to be a championship team you better learn to play well in all time zones.

[Taco John]

Plummer sucked, no doubt. But he was hardly the worst thing going.


In the first half of the game he was.

[DB-Freak]

Because that is not who Shanahan is. He is a x's and o's guy. If you want a motivator we probably could try to pick up herm edwards since he will probably be out of a job after their opening in Kansas City.
Yea cause Belicheck is such a motivator.

[bloodsunday]

Well if you want to be a championship team you better learn to play well in all time zones.
Did you miss the memo? this isn't a championship team. Hasn't been for a while now.

[bloodsunday]

In the first half of the game he was.
The whole O was so bad its hard to know where to start. When our OL gets abused like that we always struggle. The roll outs don't work, the play fakes don't work and we can't just straight up pass block.

[Nuggets4]

Because that is not who Shanahan is. He is a x's and o's guy. If you want a motivator we probably could try to pick up herm edwards since he will probably be out of a job after their opening in Kansas City.

Only way anyone should hire Herm Edwards is if it's written in his contract that the team will hire someone to stand next to him and constantly scream how much time is left in the quarter. I mean second-by-second updates there.

[rbackfactory80]

Did you miss the memo? this isn't a championship team. Hasn't been for a while now.

Some people like to actually see teams play before they determine their fate.

[Rock Chalk]

Huh? What do I care about the post count. I don't have any concerns about the post count. I couldn't even tell you what it's at.

I say it because I believe it. That's my only motivation.
Leave me my allusions, its the only way I can think you are not a retard :P

[-Slap-]

Just curious, but do you plan on turning every blame thread into s Jake Plummer thread?

I just want to know so I can avoid those topics in the future.
Jake's play will make those threads ubiquitous enough.

[bloodsunday]

Some people like to actually see teams play before they determine their fate.
Just stating the obvious. What championship team doesn't win its division for 6 straight years? Something is clearly missing. Either the personnel or the system. Or worse, both.

[Drek]

Yea cause Belicheck is such a motivator.
Thats a team built on veteran leadership thats already motivated. They only bring in heavily driven guys, whether it be draft or FA. Some guys aren't of course, but they get motivated or they don't pan out. But most all of them are total Type A's.

As for this thread, well, I'm sorry, I can't blame either of them too heavily. Jake just flat out sucked, as did our playcalling. We couldn't keep the defense off the field long enough to keep them remotely well rested. That **** matters, and Shanny just got out-coached.

I also have had my belief that Jake can't through Ashley a good pass consistantly reassured. What a weak deep ball. He might get it to 'em, but in the ugliest way possible. Elway threw laser spirals that a WR can catch crisp and make a move with and YAC is a fundamental of our passing offense. Jake's throws just aren't as consistantly easy to catch. Don't get me wrong, I understand that Elway's completion percentage wasn't amazing, but when he threw you a pass and he was on he was throwing you a tight, easy to catch spiral, even if he was a little off in location. We need that type of QB to run this offense.

I also absolutely hated Shanny's playcalling in the red zone. Trying to pound Bell up the gut? Please, go to Dayne or Kyle Johnson at least a little as a change of pace.

We just got whooped up on by last year's whooping boys. Not because they were better, just because they played harder and out-coached us. Pretty damn pathetic.

[orangenblue]

How does Plummer possibly escape being mentioned here?

Coconut Fingers sucked, no doubt. Pryce dissappeared, for sure. Plummer looked like he was eternally trapped in the first quarter of the Indianapolis game. You can't just point at Lelie for Plummer's problems. He was awful.

Plummer looked as though he was playing his first football game in his life

[~Crash~]

Agree on Adams, and even Watts has shown better route running... just shaky hands.

As for Pryce, think back and tell me the last time he could even be spotted in a big game.

Opening day... road game.... time to set the tempo for the season... I swear, I never even saw Pryce in camera view. I'm not joking when I ask if he suited up. He's a disgrace.

Popps~and even Watts has shown better route running... just shaky hands.

Cash~so did rod that can be fixed ! I sure was pissed when we passed on Ed Reid (SP) for Lelie but we got him for at least this season so it does no good thwack on him . at the end of the season maybe we should go after the best WR out there .

[Rock Chalk]

Thats a team built on veteran leadership thats already motivated. They only bring in heavily driven guys, whether it be draft or FA. Some guys aren't of course, but they get motivated or they don't pan out. But most all of them are total Type A's.

As for this thread, well, I'm sorry, I can't blame either of them too heavily. Jake just flat out sucked, as did our playcalling. We couldn't keep the defense off the field long enough to keep them remotely well rested. That **** matters, and Shanny just got out-coached.

I also have had my belief that Jake can't through Ashley a good pass consistantly reassured. What a weak deep ball. He might get it to 'em, but in the ugliest way possible. Elway threw laser spirals that a WR can catch crisp and make a move with and YAC is a fundamental of our passing offense. Jake's throws just aren't as consistantly easy to catch. Don't get me wrong, I understand that Elway's completion percentage wasn't amazing, but when he threw you a pass and he was on he was throwing you a tight, easy to catch spiral, even if he was a little off in location. We need that type of QB to run this offense.

I also absolutely hated Shanny's playcalling in the red zone. Trying to pound Bell up the gut? Please, go to Dayne or Kyle Johnson at least a little as a change of pace.

We just got whooped up on by last year's whooping boys. Not because they were better, just because they played harder and out-coached us. Pretty damn pathetic.

To be fair, Bell was the only option other than KJ because Dayne didn't suit up but I dont think it matters how big the back is when the O-line is as small as it is. Sterling Sharpe called us finesse because of our lack of ability to run the ball in the red zone.

And he's right.

[Popps]

In the first half of the game he was.

****ing clueless.

Did we have a positive rushing yard in the first half? I don't remember.

[Popps]

To be fair, Bell was the only option other than KJ because Dayne didn't suit up but I dont think it matters how big the back is when the O-line is as small as it is. Sterling Sharpe called us finesse because of our lack of ability to run the ball in the red zone.

And he's right.

We went out and got a massive right tackle in the draft. A lot of good that did us.

I heard him say that... and agree, to a point. We just look like we're getting pushed around out there on both sides of the ball.

[~Crash~]

Did you miss the memo? this isn't a championship team. Hasn't been for a while now.

LAMAO you off the band wagon already !! smile we are going to the Super Bowl this year I fill it in my bones get ready for the ride !!! I still believe

[Popps]

Popps~and even Watts has shown better route running... just shaky hands.

Cash~so did rod that can be fixed ! I sure was pissed when we passed on Ed Reid (SP) for Lelie but we got him for at least this season so it does no good thwack on him . at the end of the season maybe we should go after the best WR out there .

To top it off, I used a late round pick on Assley in one of my drafts... and he's probably going to cost me a loss, as well. I have no clue what I was doing drafting that sissy.

Put Watts and Adams out there with Smith and hope for the best. Lelie is a fking disaster. First round pick, my ass.

[Liebs]

was it just the bad TV i watched the game on or has pryce gotten fatter and slower? I saw 93 in the picture a couple times as he got shoved around by the opposing lineman

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

If people want to play the blame game, I think there are many more likely targets than Pryce and Lelie. How about a RG who spent the day on his back, how about our "coverage"safety that got beat badly at least four times, how about the tight ends who could not block or catch today or how about Jake just not being able to throw the ball at all. Ok, now that venting is over, lets forget it and figure out a way to take it out on the Chargers next week.

[Popps]

was it just the bad TV i was the game on or has pryce gotten fatter and slower? I saw 93 in the picture a couple times as he got shoved around by the opposing lineman

Well, I honestly (no exaggeration) didn't see Pryce out there all day... but I assume he's lined up outside most of the time, which is our first mistake. He's too slow to play DE. He's got no closing speed. He's fantastic on the inside, but precious Trevor "doesn't like" playing inside... so we're using him as a pretend DE.

It says on the stat sheet he has a tackle, which is at least an indication that he did indeed play. I can't confirm that.

[2KBack]

you think?? they definitely are.. Its embarrassing for you guys to be ragging on our team now! 1 loss is nothing. Sure we normally start hot, but i think a good kick in the rear end is something this team sorely needed.

We need to learn from our mistakes, and move on to next week. Shanny and Coyer will fix the problems and hopefully it shows against the Chargers.

Exactly, I'd rather know what's wrong now than week 11

[~Crash~]

these are my notes on this game :

the fins knew our first 15 plays ....Dont belive me look at your tape. look at how our coach made the calls for the rest of the game .

On the side lines we were on the hot side of the field(15 degree's hotter than the other side) ,wearing dark jersys in 120 degee's not a good thing .

[~Crash~]

you guy have very little faith . we had nothin but bad luck this game crap happens...

[Kaylore]

you guy have very little faith . we had nothin but bad luck this game crap happens...
So so true. I surprise no one else has pointed this one out. Everythng that could've gone wrong for us did in that game. The ball just never bounced our way.

[labronco]

what kinda girly name is ashley anyway?

[ludo21]

So so true. I surprise no one else has pointed this one out. Everythng that could've gone wrong for us did in that game. The ball just never bounced our way.


ive been saying this. WE played bad, true. But there were a few close calls,and things that could have turned the game a different way.

I believe in Shanny that he will get the troops ready for next week.

There are 16 games in a season, not 1. Yes, we have a tough schedule and we needed this game, blah blah blah..... This definitely needed to happen to us sooner than later. If this loss doesnt fire up the team to never play like crap again, i dont know what will.

[Kaylore]

ive been saying this. WE played bad, true. But there were a few close calls,and things that could have turned the game a different way.

I believe in Shanny that he will get the troops ready for next week.

There are 16 games in a season, not 1. Yes, we have a tough schedule and we needed this game, blah blah blah..... This definitely needed to happen to us sooner than later. If this loss doesnt fire up the team to never play like crap again, i dont know what will.
No doubt. It's just that now I'm seeing that next game in Jacksonville and just want to hide my self. Shanahan's record in Florida is abysmal. At least we split last season, though.

[footstepsfrom#27]

Where are the fans after a loss like this!!!!
Gettin' drunk, stoned or laid. What's to say? It was a total abortion.

[DBroncos4life]

i guess Watts preseason drops don't seem so bad now huh?

[2KBack]

No doubt. It's just that now I'm seeing that next game in Jacksonville and just want to hide my self. Shanahan's record in Florida is abysmal. At least we split last season, though.


Probably why he didn't take the coaching job there

[broncogary]

Then Deadskins win to boot, only way we are getting top 5 pick is with our own pick not Washingtons.

"The Plan." :griese:

[Popps]

i guess Watts preseason drops don't seem so bad now huh?

I'd rather see Watts out there with his upside than Lelie and his stagnant, mediocre play. Hopefully he'll get a few more reps next week.

[Goobzilla]

I believe in Shanny that he will get the troops ready for next week.

There are 16 games in a season, not 1. Yes, we have a tough schedule and we needed this game, blah blah blah..... This definitely needed to happen to us sooner than later. If this loss doesnt fire up the team to never play like crap again, i dont know what will.

Have past embarrassments fired up the team? We played .500 ball after the Bengals clowned us on Monday night last year.

[jayman_37]

I think everyone needs to calm down. It's not like Lelie became a terrible receiver overnight. He can still play but he had a bad game. It happens. If hes playing bad the next 5 weeks then ok go ahead and worry, but it's just one game. CALM DOWN.

[Taco John]

****ing clueless.

Did we have a positive rushing yard in the first half? I don't remember.



Ah, here we go with the "****ing clueless" blasts again. That's always a strong one. More amusing is the fact that you follow it up with a clueless question about our running game in the first half.

The answer is we had 52 rushing yards in the first half.
So yes, we had a positive rushing yard in the first half...

[Sideburn]

Ah, here we go with the "****ing clueless" blasts again. That's always a strong one. More amusing is the fact that you follow it up with a clueless question about our running game in the first half.

The answer is we had 52 rushing yards in the first half.
So yes, we had a positive rushing yard in the first half...
Shamaplan is just playing tic tac toe in your avatar right? Or maybe that's our "new and improved" redzone offense. Why didn't we run the bootleg inside the 5? Damnit I'm mad....mad I say!

[Mile High Shack]

Shamaplan is just playing tic tac toe in your avatar right? Or maybe that's our "new and improved" redzone offense. Why didn't we run the bootleg inside the 5? Damnit I'm mad....mad I say!

it's like that chicken at the state fair that plays tic-tac-toe

[Sideburn]

it's like that chicken at the state fair that plays tic-tac-toe
I hate that fvcking chicken...but I bet he could throw a better slant pass than the fake!

[Cleo McDowell]

everyone is frustrated and angry but i agree that we need to settle down. we played ****ty. its done. messed up my sunday, but its done. here's to regrouping and laying the smack down on San Diego.

If i wanted to hear b****ing and whining and "get rid of jake, lelie sucks!" i would still be at the broncos board. True, lelie dissapeared and so did pryce. they played ****ty. thats that. I cant wait to see "assley's" and trev's nuts on your chin after a big game by either. when that comes around ill be shaking my head as you say "i'll eat my crow" or some sucka line like that.
F-U fairweather fans.

[Taco John]

Shamaplan is just playing tic tac toe in your avatar right? Or maybe that's our "new and improved" redzone offense. Why didn't we run the bootleg inside the 5? Damnit I'm mad....mad I say!


How ya like me now? ;)

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

This is exactly the kind of thing I've been worried about since the offseason: Shanahan made improvements on defense a top priority while completely ignoring some really big problems on offense, e.g., the mediocre passing game.

I said we needed to sign another pro bowl-caliber WR, and everyone told me I was full of sh*t for saying such a thing.

Lelie has had plenty of time to prove himself, and he has proven himself to be VERY inconsistent and not nearly productive enough to deserve the starting job.

I know Jake didn't have a great game today, but I'm really getting sick of seeing him scanning the field and finding nobody open on practically every passing play.

[Mile High Shack]

everyone is frustrated and angry but i agree that we need to settle down. we played ****ty. its done. messed up my sunday, but its done. here's to regrouping and laying the smack down on San Diego.

If i wanted to hear b****ing and whining and "get rid of jake, lelie sucks!" i would still be at the broncos board. True, lelie dissapeared and so did pryce. they played ****ty. thats that. I cant wait to see "assley's" and trev's nuts on your chin after a big game by either. when that comes around ill be shaking my head as you say "i'll eat my crow" or some sucka line like that.
F-U fairweather fans.

says the man with 165 posts

[Mile High Shack]

How ya like me now? ;)

I dunno about Sideburn

but I for one am pleased ;)

[Sideburn]

How ya like me now? ;)
Taco, this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship. I'm still laughing over that. I need photoshop so I can stay up till 4 in the morning coming up with something wonderful. Anyone know of a free photoshop demo or anything?

[Jae]

Where are the fans after a loss like this!!!!

Right here, but my pride is damged 2 fold because KC looked so good

[Sideburn]

Holy crap that is funny. I can't stop looking at it and laughing.

[Cleo McDowell]

says the man with 165 posts

so does the higher the post count on one message board make me a greater fan? Should i start ranting and creating posts about my cat to make my post count higher?? IF what your inferring is that indeed, then your reasoning sucks.

[SoCalBronco]

Ashley did not play well today. He will be very good this season. I think this was just a hiccup for him. He will be fine. He erased the dropsies last year. I think this is just a blip on the screen. He will have a great week next week for us.

[Taco John]

Holy crap that is funny. I can't stop looking at it and laughing.



It was theraputic... Some will hate me for it, but it helps me cope. I can now take a deep breath and hope he does better next week where Jake redeems himself for blowing up during the Division Championship last year against the Chargers. That's when I first bailed on his bandwagon. Would like to see him make a pick-up stop there.

[WaffleBoy]

Ashley did not play well today. He will be very good this season. I think this was just a hiccup for him. He will be fine. He erased the dropsies last year. I think this is just a blip on the screen. He will have a great week next week for us.

Just a hiccup? The guy was practically invisible from what I am reading.

The Boy Wonder :super:

[2KBack]

Just a hiccup? The guy was practically invisible from what I am reading.

The Boy Wonder :super:

No, he was visibly bad

[Mile High Shack]

No, he was visibly bad

he made a great penalty early in the game ^5

[Sideburn]

It was theraputic... Some will hate me for it, but it helps me cope. I can now take a deep breath and hope he does better next week where Jake redeems himself for blowing up during the Division Championship last year against the Chargers. That's when I first bailed on his bandwagon. Would like to see him make a pick-up stop there.
It truly is theraputic. I'm sure most know that deep down, I don't really mean most of the stuff I'm saying tonight. But it really feels good to bust on the team after that pathetic display of football today. I just hope that the rumors are true and some of the players read this site. Hell they should print out everything I've posted for the last 3 hours and hang it on the bulletin board. Maybe it will get them to actually give a damn out there.

[Sideburn]

he made a great penalty early in the game ^5
My favorite was the defensive holding by brownco number 3 after brownco number 2 actually got a sack on a qb less mobile than Bledsoe.

[SoCalBronco]

Just a hiccup? The guy was practically invisible from what I am reading.

The Boy Wonder :super:

I am referring to this game in the context of his last 17 games Waffle. He had one pretty bad game after a great season and then great preseason. I find it funny when people like Popps are just slithering in the grass waiting for the oppurtunity to bust out the "Assley sucks" threads after having his ass handed to him on a platter last year and having his boy humiliated this preseason.

[Mile High Shack]

My favorite was the defensive holding by brownco number 3 after brownco number 2 actually got a sack on a qb less mobile than Bledsoe.

how does a defensive end get a holding call against him?

LOL

I somehow knew after the Phish kept driving on us, this could possibly be an ugly game, even at 6-3.

[24champ]

I am referring to this game in the context of his last 17 games Waffle. He had one pretty bad game after a great season and then great preseason. I find it funny when people like Popps are just slithering in the grass waiting for the oppurtunity to bust out the "Assley sucks" threads after having his ass handed to him on a platter last year and having his boy humiliated this preseason.

Yeah i dont get it, the whole team blew it.

[Mile High Shack]

It was theraputic... Some will hate me for it, but it helps me cope. I can now take a deep breath and hope he does better next week where Jake redeems himself for blowing up during the Division Championship last year against the Chargers. That's when I first bailed on his bandwagon. Would like to see him make a pick-up stop there.

I'm not down on the team too bad

I'm like sideburn

I need to vent or I'll explode and I'll take it out on my wife...lol

I'll be there at 3pm central time next weekend to let them rip my heart out again

[Sideburn]

I am referring to this game in the context of his last 17 games Waffle. He had one pretty bad game after a great season and then great preseason. I find it funny when people like Popps are just slithering in the grass waiting for the oppurtunity to bust out the "Assley sucks" threads after having his ass handed to him on a platter last year and having his boy humiliated this preseason.
Stonehands isn't going to push coconut hands for the starting job. Coconut hands will be fine once he leaves denver, that's generally how it goes down. Actually there should be a waiver on every contract offered up to players that are interested in playing in denver. It should read

Warning! You are about to join a cursed franchise. Upon signing this contract you will be stricken as a mediocre player on a mediocre team. Upon leaving this cursed franchise, you will be once again restored to your glorious self.

[Sideburn]

how does a defensive end get a holding call against him?

LOL

I somehow knew after the Phish kept driving on us, this could possibly be an ugly game, even at 6-3.
shhhhh. You're not suppose to ask how something like that can happen. Just understand that anything is possible when a brownco is involved.

[Mile High Shack]

it's not stone hands damnit

it's

THE CLLLAAAWWWWWWWWW

[Sideburn]

it's not stone hands damnit

it's

THE CLLLAAAWWWWWWWWW
But he looks exactly like Stonehands from Necessary Roughness. That and the claw could actually catch a pass or two just by pure odds that the ball would get stuck.

[Mile High Shack]

But he looks exactly like Stonehands from Necessary Roughness. That and the claw could actually catch a pass or two just by pure odds that the ball would get stuck.

maybe if Jake aims for his feet, he can hit stone hands right in the face mask and make it stick, then he won't have to worry about catching it

[SoCalBronco]

Stonehands isn't going to push coconut hands for the starting job. Coconut hands will be fine once he leaves denver, that's generally how it goes down. Actually there should be a waiver on every contract offered up to players that are interested in playing in denver. It should read

Warning! You are about to join a cursed franchise. Upon signing this contract you will forever be stricken as a mediocre player on a mediocre team. Upon leaving this cursed franchise, you will be once again restored to your glorious self.

Sometimes I feel the team as a whole is cursed, yeah. But I really think this was just a one time deal for Ash. He proved himself last year. Showed great hands. Same thing with the preseason. He did suck today, there is no question. At all. But he's our best WR I think. He is our key threat. He will be very good despite this poor game. It just pisses me off to see hypocrites like Popps show up, when he is pimping his boy the whole time...we never see a "wake the **** up Watts" thread from him...and he takes the first chance he gets to take a shot at Ash. And then compounds his hypocrisy later by criticizing Taco on a point re: plummer by saying "your just intentioanlly going finding a way to go after him" or whatever he said earlier, that was basically a paraphrase of it.

[Sideburn]

Sometimes I feel the team as a whole is cursed, yeah. But I really think this was just a one time deal for Ash. He proved himself last year. Showed great hands. Same thing with the preseason. He did suck today, there is no question. At all. But he's our best WR I think. He is our key threat. He will be very good despite this poor game. It just pisses me off to see hypocrites like Popps show up, when he is pimping his boy the whole time...we never see a "wake the **** up Watts" thread from him...and he takes the first chance he gets to take a shot at Ash. And then compounds his hypocrisy later by criticizing Taco on a point re: plummer by saying "your just intentioanlly going finding a way to go after him" or whatever he said earlier, that was basically a paraphrase of it.
Yeah I hear ya. Honestly, I'm just down on the whole team. I'm going to bang on everyone of them until something major happens.
What I love the most is reading the same excuses for plummer that I remember reading about griese.

[-Slap-]

It was theraputic... Some will hate me for it, but it helps me cope. I can now take a deep breath and hope he does better next week where Jake redeems himself for blowing up during the Division Championship last year against the Chargers. That's when I first bailed on his bandwagon. Would like to see him make a pick-up stop there.
I remember you talking me down off the roof after the lefthanded pass from the end zone, but you should have let me jump.

[Mile High Shack]

Yeah I hear ya. Honestly, I'm just down on the whole team. I'm going to bang on everyone of them until something major happens.
What I love the most is reading the same excuses for plummer that I remember reading about griese.

I've been sticking up for Plummer

but I'm coming over the the hater side the more I see and think about it

I'm gonna have to put my Plummer jersey on another scare crow in effigy like I do with SOB's old jersey

He can't make an accurate throw to save his life

[Sideburn]

I've been sticking up for Plummer

but I'm coming over the the hater side the more I see and think about it

I'm gonna have to put my Plummer jersey on another scare crow in effigy like I do with SOB's old jersey

He can't make an accurate throw to save his life
Let's burn that mother fvcker before the next game...I'll bring the fluid.

[WaffleBoy]

Sometimes I feel the team as a whole is cursed, yeah. But I really think this was just a one time deal for Ash. He proved himself last year. Showed great hands. Same thing with the preseason. He did suck today, there is no question. At all. But he's our best WR I think. He is our key threat. He will be very good despite this poor game. It just pisses me off to see hypocrites like Popps show up, when he is pimping his boy the whole time...we never see a "wake the **** up Watts" thread from him...and he takes the first chance he gets to take a shot at Ash. And then compounds his hypocrisy later by criticizing Taco on a point re: plummer by saying "your just intentioanlly going finding a way to go after him" or whatever he said earlier, that was basically a paraphrase of it.

I agree. I didn't see anything from the highlights that suggest Lelie should be called out for this game. It looked like a total team collapse.

The Boy Wonder :super:

[SoCalBronco]

I agree. I didn't see anything from the highlights that suggest Lelie should be called out for this game. It looked like a total team collapse.

The Boy Wonder :super:

Oh he deserves to be called out. Im a homer but I admit he was very bad. I just think people are overreacting when they seem to be totally giving up on him etc.

[2KBack]

I agree. I didn't see anything from the highlights that suggest Lelie should be called out for this game. It looked like a total team collapse.

The Boy Wonder :super:

It was, but we need a thread to call out each player individually

[Cito Pelon]

Lelie is a big-shouldered guy, he doesn't even need to use his arms to separate, but he doesn't use the shoulders to get sepatation early in the pattern. The guy is big, but not physical. He doesn't lean into the defender early, and with that big upper body, he has to do that. Also, the rolloouts are looking for him to get separation, but not just long. Lelie also has to get to the hole in the zone, that's one of the big missing pieces in the puzzle.

[Kaylore]

Ashley did not play well today. He will be very good this season. I think this was just a hiccup for him. He will be fine. He erased the dropsies last year. I think this is just a blip on the screen. He will have a great week next week for us.
I think this was a hiccup for the whole team.

[Macnut]

Oh he deserves to be called out. Im a homer but I admit he was very bad. I just think people are overreacting when they seem to be totally giving up on him etc.
I agree with you SoCal. Lelie was very consistent last year and the way people make him sound as if he was always bad. His critics can't wait for a game like this to come out with ****. He had a bad game but look for him to rebound in a big way next week.

[anthonypacino]

Pryce was manhandled all day and he was not double teamed! Just typical Lazy Trevor, only time he will get a sack will be when the QB runs into him cause of the pressure from the other side. We knew this about Lelie the only reason he went for 1000 yards last year was cause of his deep catches, underneath where you really have to "earn" a catch and work to get open he just can't do it.

[Popps]

It was theraputic... Some will hate me for it, but it helps me cope. I can now take a deep breath and hope he does better next week where Jake redeems himself for blowing up during the Division Championship last year against the Chargers. That's when I first bailed on his bandwagon. Would like to see him make a pick-up stop there.

Our defense gave up 34 pts in the first half. Clearly, Plummer's fault.

Then again, you've shown yourself to be absolutely disinterested in logic long ago.

Like I said... plug in any QB you want today. We still lose. No D, no run game, no protection... and maybe a questionable game plan? Good luck to any QB under those circumstances.

[Popps]

It just pisses me off to see hypocrites like Popps show up, when he is pimping his boy the whole time...we never see a "wake the **** up Watts" thread from him...and he takes the first chance he gets to take a shot at Ash.


Hey ****face, I DRAFTED Lelie this season for my fantasy team. I really wanted (and hoped) he'd break out, and maybe he still will. But, his act is getting old. He's a a first round pick... a few years into his contract and still can't seem to run a route to save his life. He was god-awful today.

As for Watts, he's in his second year... was drafted lower (and we even took him high) than Lelie... and shows much more in the way of physical talent.
As for me taking the "first chance" I get to take shots at A$$... that's also BS.
I've bit my tongue on that sissy for three years waiting for something to happen. Today was just the breaking point (personally) for me with regards to "stars" like Pryce, Wilson and first round picks like Lelie who continue to disappear every week.

Try paying better attention.

[Odysseus]

Plummer didn't have much accuracy today, he was all over the place. There were drops, too.

You can't be bad at the QB, WR, RB, TE, OLT, ORT, OLG, ORG, and C with any realistic hopes of having a good season.

I don't mean to take anything from the Dolphins win but if Gus Frerotte can chew up this team somebody is losing a job before the end of the season.

[Odysseus]

It was theraputic... Some will hate me for it, but it helps me cope. I can now take a deep breath and hope he does better next week where Jake redeems himself for blowing up during the Division Championship last year against the Chargers. That's when I first bailed on his bandwagon. Would like to see him make a pick-up stop there.

It sounds like you want Mike Shanahan gone and you are hiding behind Plummer to get that. IMHO if you want bash Plummer you do that on Plummer alone. It's strikes me as disingenious that you don't get that. I liked your big 16 rock better.

[-Slap-]

It sounds like you want Mike Shanahan gone and you are hiding behind Plummer to get that. IMHO if you want bash Plummer you do that on Plummer alone. It's strikes me as disingenious that you don't get that. I liked your big 16 rock better.
I have to disagree with you. Mike certainly shares in the blame when you consider he's never put a viable veteran on the roster to challenge Plummer for the job, or at least relieve him when he's screwing us, for example every single time we play a decent defense.

[toad]

Lelie's woes can be just as much placed on Plummer as Lelie.

Smith typicall gets Plummers shorter, more accurate routes that lead to more catchable balls.

Plummer couldn't hit Lelie 20 yards downfield if he was wide-open and standing still facing him.

[dnvrbrncos]

http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_attrib.php/page_id=1064/

[Ballhawk]

We will improve or we wont, *sigh* what a bad weekend with Broncos and OSU going down...I remeber NE getting shut out opening day 31-0 and going on to the superbowl, but Ashlie needs to break out as an everydown WR or move him to #3.

[Meck77]

Mike certainly shares in the blame when you consider he's never put a viable veteran on the roster to challenge Plummer for the job, or at least relieve him when he's screwing us, for example every single time we play a decent defense.

Just like I blame Pat Bowlen for not challenging Shanny. Shanny has been told by Bowlen that he will no be fired. It has been that way for YEARS. Plummer inturn has some sort security blanket around his job as slap eluded to.

How many of us go to work everyday knowing that we cannot be fired?

It's just a big complacent shiat sandwich and meanwhile the Orangemane spent 8 months disecting ever possible scenario for this team and we rolled out with the same product this year........ an inconsistent offense that can't even get a first down to save it's life to start the game. :nono:

I've cut this group alot of slack but not anymore. It's getting harder and harder to remember the glory days of the superbowls. We were extremely lucky to have been able to taste success and now that we got it we want more.

I think was is frustrating for me is that Shanny and Bowlen continue to say we are 1 or 2 players away from the superbowl and we are never even close to a superbowl caliber team. I'd rather just hear that we are rebuilding instead of the same ole line of BS every season. What's scary is maybe these guys really think we are just one or two players away. The talent is definetly around which is also frustrating. I can see losing to Miami but not getting embarassed by them. There is no excuse for that gameplan and not being able to have 1 yard passing by the end of the 1st quarter. None.

We flat out abandoned the run and Jake looked like a chicken with his head cut off the first few drives. There were some plays on defense where the team looked so tired that I think I could have had better coverage down field carrying a coors and a cigar in my mouth. :charge:

Alot of us that went to camp were frustrated at how many times practice was cancelled or called short because of a little rain or thunder. Randy Gradishar flat out told us "Traing camp is a country club these days". Well it showed on how prepared and fit this team was.

I can take a loss but I can't swallow how sad this team looked. We got beat down in every phase of the game and to end it like we did was flat out pathetic. Shanny could have atleast given BVP some reps and spared Plummer some embarrasement on behalf of all Broncos Country when the game was already over.

[Traveler]

Now that I'm calm, here's my two cents. We seem to have these type of games against more physical teams. It's quite evident (or should be) that the only good thing left about the offensive philososphy of the running game. And even that doesn't work when the OL is being dominated by a more physical and motivated team.

As many have said, there's plenty of blame to go around. My concern is that we are having more and more games like this over the last 4-5 years. If this holds true we can already chalk up losses to Baltimore , NE, Jville, SD, Eagles, and possibly the Skins.

Someone earlier mentioned the play of the OL. These guys were flat out dominated! Not one, but two goal line stands by the Miami defense. Not taking anything away from how well the Dolphins played, but finesse just doesn't work when you need power. How I long for the days we had physical guys like Zim, Jones, Stinky, etc. Guys that had a physicality these OL don't seem to possess.

Sorry about the soapbox but this team is becoming so predictable. Let's identify 4 significant areas we fans and other teams already know about this team:

1. With Jake at the controls, it's all or nothing. He can't and shouldn't be counted on to carry this team.

2. We can expect the team to play flat and be seemingly unmotivated when we need just the opposite.

3. Teams with physical DL's create the most problems for our offense

4. Shanahan is one of the worst coaches at making adjustments during a game. If the original gameplan doesn't work, he's seems to be at a loss on what to do to counter what the other team is doing.

I could bash the team more and complain, but it's moot at this point. The game is over and our weaknesses from previous years are still present. Until those are addressed, expect more of the same....mediocrity!

I understand that it's only the first game, but I'm willing to wait till the season is over to see if all that I've said here still holds true.

[rbackfactory80]

it's like that chicken at the state fair that plays tic-tac-toe

No the chicken usually wins.

[Popps]

Lelie's woes can be just as much placed on Plummer as Lelie.

Smith typicall gets Plummers shorter, more accurate routes that lead to more catchable balls.

Plummer couldn't hit Lelie 20 yards downfield if he was wide-open and standing still facing him.

Wrong, watch the tape yesterday and watch the pre-season games. Lelie is being sent on comeback routes, slants and many shorter variety routes..... he just can't run them. As for Plummer hitting Assley 20 yards down field... he did, The Assman just ran backwards into the DB .

[orange 4 life]

six pages.

i dont have the energy to read them all.

come on guys.
stop looking for one or two players to blame.
this game was a COMPLETE disaster, and the blame is endless.
the gameplan was awful on both sides of the ball.
the players werent prepared for a morning game.
the coaches and trainers didnt have everyone hydrated.
the line couldnt block douglas county high schools defensive line.
we sacrificed coverage for blitz's all day even after it was apparent they were prepared.
we had a multitude of dropped balls (remember lelie was the most sure handed guy on our team last year)
we had jake throwing 90 mph heaters from ten yards away (probably scared not to get it there in a hurry since no one was open the first half)
we had one of our most anemic ground games in the shanahan era.
we had VERY questionable playcalling in the redzone (can someone tell me where the qb draw went? where 3 or 4 wide inside the ten went? where power running went?)

the list goes on.......and on.......and on.

it was an atrocity.
all we can do is hope that the team learned from this collapse.
that they can USE it to propel them through the season, much like new england used their early season thrashing a couple years back to their advantage.
we HAVE the talent on this team.
we can crumble, or we can take what we want.
win the next two games and we are in first place with tiebreakers.
lose and we are in severe trouble.
lets judge this team after these next two games.
clearly this one was an aberration, and clearly EVERYONE is responsible.

jake

[jrmarden]

I can not believe how everyone is so down on Ashley and Trevor..

1) Ashley had a bad game, no denying that. He had a fantastic year last year and he showed that he is more of a complete receiver in the Colts game (granted it was preseason) than last year. I'm thrilled Ashley is on our team and he will come up huge this year, mark my words..

2) As for Trevor Pryce, man the guy was out all last year with a severe back injury. Before that, he was our best d-line by far. This is his first game since injury, so when was the last time he came up big you ask, well the answer is the game before his injury. Give him some time and he'll perform. He is solid. Our DL did a good job I thought given the circumstances. I mean come on, our offense went 3 and out so many times that our defense was constantly on the field and in that weather it is easy to get drained..

Agree on Adams, and even Watts has shown better route running... just shaky hands.

As for Pryce, think back and tell me the last time he could even be spotted in a big game.

Opening day... road game.... time to set the tempo for the season... I swear, I never even saw Pryce in camera view. I'm not joking when I ask if he suited up. He's a disgrace.

[freak6]

As for Watts, he's in his second year... was drafted lower (and we even took him high) than Lelie... and shows MUCH more in the way of physical talent.


lmfao!!!

Another rant by the blind expert. Is being able to catch a football part of neccessary physical talent, for a WR specifically? bwaa haa haaa haaaaa.

lmfao!!!!

[Sideburn]

Just like I blame Pat Bowlen for not challenging Shanny. Shanny has been told by Bowlen that he will no be fired. It has been that way for YEARS. Plummer inturn has some sort security blanket around his job as slap eluded to.

How many of us go to work everyday knowing that we cannot be fired?

It's just a big complacent shiat sandwich and meanwhile the Orangemane spent 8 months disecting ever possible scenario for this team and we rolled out with the same product this year........ an inconsistent offense that can't even get a first down to save it's life to start the game. :nono:

I've cut this group alot of slack but not anymore. It's getting harder and harder to remember the glory days of the superbowls. We were extremely lucky to have been able to taste success and now that we got it we want more.

I think was is frustrating for me is that Shanny and Bowlen continue to say we are 1 or 2 players away from the superbowl and we are never even close to a superbowl caliber team. I'd rather just hear that we are rebuilding instead of the same ole line of BS every season. What's scary is maybe these guys really think we are just one or two players away. The talent is definetly around which is also frustrating. I can see losing to Miami but not getting embarassed by them. There is no excuse for that gameplan and not being able to have 1 yard passing by the end of the 1st quarter. None.

We flat out abandoned the run and Jake looked like a chicken with his head cut off the first few drives. There were some plays on defense where the team looked so tired that I think I could have had better coverage down field carrying a coors and a cigar in my mouth. :charge:

Alot of us that went to camp were frustrated at how many times practice was cancelled or called short because of a little rain or thunder. Randy Gradishar flat out told us "Traing camp is a country club these days". Well it showed on how prepared and fit this team was.

I can take a loss but I can't swallow how sad this team looked. We got beat down in every phase of the game and to end it like we did was flat out pathetic. Shanny could have atleast given BVP some reps and spared Plummer some embarrasement on behalf of all Broncos Country when the game was already over.


This pretty much sums up my opinion on the whole franchise right now. Thank you for putting it in words while I continue to bash the crap out of the team. Rooting for them hasn't worked, so bashing them will have to do until things are changed. Good post meck.

[F**kOakland]

look at it this way, all 11 guys on offense got their butts kicked yesterday. Let's see what that "bad taste" in their mouths does for their game against the bolts.

"Broncos beat the Chargers" -I guarantee it .....and I will also paint any car for 99.95!

[Bronx33]

look at it this way, all 11 guys on offense got their butts kicked yesterday. Let's see what that "bad taste" in their mouths does for their game against the bolts.

"Broncos beat the Chargers" -I guarantee it .....and I will also paint any car for 99.95!

Ok i got a 89 bronco i want painted.....

[Cito Pelon]

Just like I blame Pat Bowlen for not challenging Shanny. Shanny has been told by Bowlen that he will no be fired. It has been that way for YEARS. Plummer inturn has some sort security blanket around his job as slap eluded to.

How many of us go to work everyday knowing that we cannot be fired?

It's just a big complacent shiat sandwich and meanwhile the Orangemane spent 8 months disecting ever possible scenario for this team and we rolled out with the same product this year........ an inconsistent offense that can't even get a first down to save it's life to start the game. :nono:

I've cut this group alot of slack but not anymore. It's getting harder and harder to remember the glory days of the superbowls. We were extremely lucky to have been able to taste success and now that we got it we want more.

I think was is frustrating for me is that Shanny and Bowlen continue to say we are 1 or 2 players away from the superbowl and we are never even close to a superbowl caliber team. I'd rather just hear that we are rebuilding instead of the same ole line of BS every season. What's scary is maybe these guys really think we are just one or two players away. The talent is definetly around which is also frustrating. I can see losing to Miami but not getting embarassed by them. There is no excuse for that gameplan and not being able to have 1 yard passing by the end of the 1st quarter. None.

We flat out abandoned the run and Jake looked like a chicken with his head cut off the first few drives. There were some plays on defense where the team looked so tired that I think I could have had better coverage down field carrying a coors and a cigar in my mouth. :charge:

Alot of us that went to camp were frustrated at how many times practice was cancelled or called short because of a little rain or thunder. Randy Gradishar flat out told us "Traing camp is a country club these days". Well it showed on how prepared and fit this team was.

I can take a loss but I can't swallow how sad this team looked. We got beat down in every phase of the game and to end it like we did was flat out pathetic. Shanny could have atleast given BVP some reps and spared Plummer some embarrasement on behalf of all Broncos Country when the game was already over.

That was a haymaker. I'd like to argue with that, but I can't. I'd have no solid ground to stand on.

So let's see what the team brings Sunday. Too much playing on the heels from what I've seen. I'm a happy guy living in possibly Championshipville if the team attacks with glee and abandon at every opportunity. Football isn't a chess game, it's who can kick ass.