SoCal's Miami vs. Florida State Preview

[SoCalBronco]

FSU Pass Game vs. Miami Pass Defense- FSU QB Drew Weatherford has had some success against the scout team in practice but it will be a whole lot faster on Monday night. He has no experience and missed alot of workouts prior to the fall camp. Miami's defensive line should have good success collapsing the pocket especially from DT Orien Harris, DE Bryan Pata and reserve end Calais Campbell. FSU's OL has a decent player in David Castillo but not much else. Miami will get pressure but the question is, will it be swarming pressure or just decent pressure. While FSU does not have a whole bunch of targets (but keep an eye on WRs Chris Davis and freshman Richard Goodman), they will probably successfully exploit MLB Leon Williams. He is a terrible pass defender. If FSU's OL can hold up against a superior Miami DL, there will be big plays in the middle of the field with #44 in white getting abused. If the run game gets going, the play action across the middle against Leon Williams will really hurt the Hurricanes. If he struggles, expect to see Romeo Davis inserted into the game. (EDIT: Ive just learned Romeo Davis will start. Expect to see him in there during passing downs and Williams in during run downs. Davis is a smart player but he is undersized and does not have alot of natural talent, both will be targets of FSU's ground attack.) Miami's depth at CB is questionable. Kelly Jennings is a great corner, but Marcus Maxey is not special and Devin Hester has some injuries and is susceptible to double moves, despite being extremely talented. I hope FSU does not spread Miami out because they could expose the depth issue and dick Miami around with short passes to the inside guys against the nickel and dime corners. Miami's safeties should be able to break up a few passes though. If they get him on the field for a few plays, keep your eye on Kenny Phillips. He is the next great Miami safety on the level of Reed and Taylor and thats not overblown rhetoric either.
Advantage: MIAMI

FSU Run Game vs. Miami Run Defense
Florida State has two excellent backs in Leon Washington and Lorenzo Booker. Miami has to be very disciplined against these two. Look for Florida State to attack between the tackles and not to the outsides. This is for two reasons. First of all, Miami has very fast outside linebackers in Jon Beason and Tavares Gooden. Last year's leading tackler, Roger McIntosh, who is coming off of arthroscopic surgery should see some time as well and is also very athletic. Expect reserve WLB Willie Williams to see a little bit of time, he is solid vs. the run. The other reason FSU is likely to run on the inside is that DT Baraka Atkins is undersized for a DT, weighing in at aroudn 280 pounds. They will run right at him and force the LBs to close the hole quickly. Expect a few counter plays as well since FSU will try and use Miami's speed against it baiting them to overpursue one way before cutting another way.
ADVANTAGE: PUSH

Miami Run Game vs. FSU Run Defense- Miami got very lucky when FSU's best Defensive lineman, Clifton Dickson was declared ineligible for the fall. Florida State still has some good players on the line. In particular you will see Andre Fluellen and Broderick Bunkley stand out. Miami's offensive line is very shaky and in shambles. Aside from Eric Winston who looks 100%, the rest of the line has been shuffling its lineup back and forth due to injuries and youth. Miami will have a very difficult time running on Florida State with newcomers like Andrew Bain and Anthony Wollschlager on the line. In addition, Florida State possesses three excellent LBs. AJ Nicholson is a great weakside backer with good speed and pop. Buster Davis, while extremely undersized for a MLB is very productive and is a playmaker and ofcourse Ernie Sims the III is on the verge of stardom. This group will hold Miami in check. Tyrone Moss for Miami is a good inside runner but has little speed. He will prolly convert some tough yards but the combination of the OL woes and Florida State's great LB corps will make it hard to run well. Exciting scatback Derron Thomas will also get some time for Miami and he does seem to have big play potential.
Advantage: FLORIDA STATE

Miami Pass Offense vs. Florida State Pass Defense
Miami QB Kyle Wright has been generally impressive in drills. He has great height, good mobility, a great arm and a good head on his shoulders. This will be a great test for him though, because he lacks in experience. The Hurricanes have a decided advantage on the outsides. Florida State lost its crown jewel at corner, Antonio Cromartie due to injury so some no-name players will be tested heavily by very talented wideouts Ryan Moore and Lance Leggett. Sinorice Moss will also be a threat from the slot. Florida State's only threat in the back four is safety Pat Watkins. He will need to have a great game if Kyle Wright gets time to throw because the wide recievers are clearly better than the corners. A really key battle will be TE Greg Olsen against SLB Ernie Sims. Sims is a devastating hitter and an athletic LB. Olsen has been called by Coker the best TE in the country and a guy who can be even better than Shockey and Winslow. Miami will rely on Olsen as a safety valve and if Sims can hold him in check, it will really slow Miami down. The key here though is pass protection. If the OL can hold up against FSU's front four, than Wright will be successful. Make no mistake, while Wright is green, if he has time to throw, the staff is very confident that he can move the ball very effectively. FSU will likely test the OL with alot of blitzes early. Its anyone's guess whether Miami's patchwork line can hold up against FSU's talented LBs bringing heat.
ADVANTAGE: Slightly to MIAMI


SPECIAL TEAMS: Florida State has a poor kicking game and an average punter. Miami is solid at those positions and also has the very explosive Devin Hester returning.
ADVANTAGE: MIAMI

INTANGIBLES: While many people think its on Miami's side since they have won 6 in a row in this series, FSU is like a wounded animal right now. Everyone is writing them off even though they are at home in an atmosphere they will feed off of. The fact that it is a night game at Tallahassee has substantial effect. Florida State has alot of talent despite all the doom sayers and the difference in talent between the teams is greatly exaggerated. The Hurricanes have missed some practices in the last week due to inclement weather. There is a concern about rustiness.
ADVANTAGE: FLORIDA STATE

Prediction: Florida State 19, Miami (Fla.) 16

[FADERPROOF]

Go FSU! Only lose by 6 or less if they do lose...

[WaffleBoy]

Go FSU! Only lose by 6 or less if they do lose...

...... and go Longhorns as well!

The Boy Wonder :super:

[Nuggets4]

...... and go Longhorns as well!

The Boy Wonder :super:

Good lord. Is there a bandwagon you DON'T jump on?

SoCal, your guys need to pull it out tonight. It's bad enough that you have to play a surprisingly strong Clemson team next week. I really don't want you guys 0-2 and pissed off heading in to face my Buffs in 3 weeks.

[WaffleBoy]

Good lord. Is there a bandwagon you DON'T jump on?

SoCal, your guys need to pull it out tonight. It's bad enough that you have to play a surprisingly strong Clemson team next week. I really don't want you guys 0-2 and pissed off heading in to face my Buffs in 3 weeks.

Texas beating OSU will only help my Hokies, right Den? ;D

The Boy Wonder :super:

[Northman]

Nah, im rooting for the Canes to beat FSU. i hate FSU and i would love to see them flushed tonight. :)

[Bronco LB 59]

Prediction: Florida State 19, Miami (Fla.) 16

I admire your unbiased opinion, SoCal.

[maven]

PREDICTION:

UM 56, FLORIDA STATE 3

:militia:

[Sideburn]

I'm really looking forward to this game.
SoCal, the real thing that this game will show is two brand new qbs. I expect a really low scoring game. Being the first game for either team, expect lots of turnovers and a defensive struggle.

Miami 13
Free Shoes 7

[Florida_Bronco]

I really hate both these teams, but I will pull for FSU since they are the lesser of the 2 evils.

[RunByDesign]

Miami 34 FSU 24 :rockon:

[BMF Bronco]

FSU - who cares
UM - Who cares

[RunByDesign]

Nebraska - who cares

[BMF Bronco]

Nebraska - who cares
apparently you, enough that you just had to add you're comment. Nebraska wasn't even a subject in this conversation, whereas the other two teams were. I despise both teams equally and hope for a lot of injuries, but didn't mention such, as I didn't want to offend any PC-ites :loopy:

[FADERPROOF]

Texas beating OSU will only help my Hokies, right Den? ;D

The Boy Wonder :super:

I'd worry about beating your own teams on your own schedule rather than looking at who needs to beat who for VT to be a national title contender already.

[WaffleBoy]

I'd worry about beating your own teams on your own schedule rather than looking at who needs to beat who for VT to be a national title contender already.

True. Actually, I wouldn't mind seeing Ohio St. vs VaTech in the National title game. Our best corner matchup one-on-one with your best wide receiver. :woowoo:

The Boy Wonder :super:

[SoCalBronco]

50 mins till gametime.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/cspeer3/Canes/93817_miawvu03_10.jpg

[SoCalBronco]

Hopefully we'll see alot of this.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/cspeer3/Canes/Wilfork-Wash.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/cspeer3/Canes/OHdamn.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/cspeer3/Canes/AF3G4400-lg.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/cspeer3/Canes/seanrun.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/cspeer3/Canes/Vilma-Taylor.jpg

[FADERPROOF]

FSU - who cares
UM - Who cares

And I'm the person that trolls this board?

Good call evenrude...

[FADERPROOF]

True. Actually, I wouldn't mind seeing Ohio St. vs VaTech in the National title game. Our best corner matchup one-on-one with your best wide receiver. :woowoo:

The Boy Wonder :super:

And you guys have a chance in hell when you find the corners to cover our other 3 badass WR's.

[FADERPROOF]

Let's see a few more hits like this tonight, 'Noles!

http://www.fsukxaz.com/MultiMedia/FSUSamuelsParrishHit.wmv

[SoCalBronco]

Some more good stuff as I am getting pumped up now. 40 mins to go.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/umbrynn/UMFSU92barrowharrispunkvanover-lo-r.jpg


Gary Cismesia, your next bro....

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/umbrynn/BurningFSU.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/cspeer3/Canes/fsu_kicker.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/cspeer3/Canes/umfsu00-widekick.jpg

http://miamicanes.com/athletics/football/history/articlearchive/other/wide_right_1991.JPG

Hurricanes Rolle!

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/cspeer3/Canes/AntrelRolle5.jpg

[SoCalBronco]

10 mins to go baby...

http://www.grassy.com/store/catalog/images/500612.jpg

[maven]

Socal, did you ever meet yama yama? He' kicks ass!

[SoCalBronco]

Thunder Thighs looks better than usual so far. Very good.

[Garcia Bronco]

Go Canes!!!

[SoCalBronco]

thanks garcia.

[SoCalBronco]

nice job D. Shutdown.

[SoCalBronco]

idiot refs. That was out of bounds.

[SoCalBronco]

wow we got a freebie there. Thanks refs.

[SoCalBronco]

God this is awful.

[Master___Pain]

Ruh Roh.

Come on 'Canes.

[WaffleBoy]

SoCal, you guys don't look ready for Blacksburg. Hilarious!

The Boy Wonder :super:

[WaffleBoy]

0-7, State.

The Boy Wonder :super:

[WaffleBoy]

Wright looks worse than Berlin right now. Two open receivers and Wright missed them both. It should have been another interception.

The Boy Wonder :super:

[DBroncos4life]

I want to see how this ACC conf championship game plays out. I'm not a big fan of the game unless everyone has one. Still seems dumb to make a team thats 13-0 go play a team 9-3 to find out which is the better team. On the flip side if things go NU's way thats the only way they would get a BCS bid this year :).


Oh FSU looks pretty good right now. The Canes QB looks like he has the first game bug.

[Garcia Bronco]

Damn...need the Canes to win...frickin Atlantic bitches

[Clockwork Orange]

Laces OUT!!!!

[Garcia Bronco]

Send a messege and cut the kicker.

[WaffleBoy]

Damn...need the Canes to win...frickin Atlantic b****es

LOL The special teams is not helping Miami. Another missed.

The Boy Wonder :super:

[SoCalBronco]

Kyle's just not playing very well right now.

[Garcia Bronco]

That guy from FSU didn't catch that ball...

[SoCalBronco]

Thankfully the Defense is starting to play well and Weatherford isnt doing jack. Come on offense, we need points.

[DBroncos4life]

Kyle's just not playing very well right now.


He's young. I think some kids get wowed by playing in big games like that. Isn't the Canes a young team? If they are it seems like a bad time for a game this big.

[SoCalBronco]

throw the ****ing flag. The defender didnt even turn around.

[SoCalBronco]

Wake up Greg. Your supposed to be an All-American TE.

[SoCalBronco]

Great. Just great.


Keep your compusure and make a stop. Dont worry about the penalties.

[Mediator12]

the Rix curse has been Lifted!!!!!

[broncos love]

I know its early in the college football season but this qb for Miami looks worse than than berlin and thats pretty hard to say. hmmm...

[SoCalBronco]

the Rix curse has been Lifted!!!!!

I dunno Med, Weatherford hasnt done squat but the rest of the team is playing well.

[SoCalBronco]

nice stop.

damn beason, thanks for killing momentum.

[SoCalBronco]

get some points this time.

[broncos love]

My bad Wright is looking better and better as the game goes on.

[Mediator12]

No you may have no points today

[SoCalBronco]

good job Kyle.

[SoCalBronco]

No you may have no points today

Come on Med, its better for dramatic purposes if its close at the end and there is a final FG attempt to win it. :~ohyah!:

[broncos love]

good job Kyle.

He is a pretty tough guy

[SoCalBronco]

TD Ryan Moore. Nice Job. We are back in it.

Buckle your seat belts, Med.

[broncos love]

God dam that was some lucky ****

[Clockwork Orange]

Canes are on the board. 10-7

[WaffleBoy]

We have a game again, 7-10.

The Boy Wonder :super:

[SoCalBronco]

Keep your eye on 81, Calais Campbell at DE.

[broncos love]

I wouldnt care who wins the game but i got $115 on FSU to win because it was +148 and i couldnt back down on that. GO FSU

[Master___Pain]

I dunno Med, Weatherford hasnt done squat but the rest of the team is playing well.

da u D is going to start pining their ears back now. Weatherford could be in trouble. That TD was huge.

[Mediator12]

This has been hard today. Its my daughters birthday. I have Family at the House, and its Miami/FSU. Lucky catch too the FS should have had INT #3.

[SoCalBronco]

Pressure Weatherford into mistakes now. Come on D.

[Mediator12]

Weatherford needs to settle down, and Bowden needs some max protect.

[SoCalBronco]

This has been hard today. Its my daughters birthday. I have Family at the House, and its Miami/FSU. Lucky catch too the FS should have had INT #3.

Happy Birthday to the little one. :)

[SoCalBronco]

Nice stop D. Come on Offense lets get the lead.

[broncos love]

Miami is scaring me now and FSu is starting to get stale

[SoCalBronco]

Come on Devin. Stop making mistakes. Still, good field position.

[broncos love]

OH yea

[SoCalBronco]

Damn you Lance!!

[Clockwork Orange]

Geez, dropped passes, bad penalties, missed field goals. Miami is killing themselves.

[SoCalBronco]

nice play Maxey. Come on WRs, no more damn DROPPED BALLS. Weatherford has nothing.

[Clockwork Orange]

Canes take it right back.

[SoCalBronco]

nice job Tyrone. Lets take the lead.

[Play2win]

Oh, yes, Miami, the Faiders of College Football...

[SoCalBronco]

Oh, yes, Miami, the Faiders of College Football...

You mean the Broncos of College Football. :)

[Ballhawk]

I still cant believe they opened with this game!

[SoCalBronco]

Ok. 44 seconds. If its 10-7 at the half, I'll take that given all of our mistakes. The OL is about as poor as I thought it would be, but Kyle is starting to play well.

[WaffleBoy]

SoCal, I got an extra seat when your Canes come to Blacksburg.;D

The Boy Wonder :super:

[SoCalBronco]

SoCal, I got an extra seat when your Canes come to Blacksburg.;D

The Boy Wonder :super:

Thanks Bro. But since we will prolly lose that game, ill have to take a raincheck on that.

[SoCalBronco]

ok halftime. I like the way the game is starting to turn the last 10 minutes or so. Just keep mistakes down and we will be ok. Thoughts so far, Med?

[Garcia Bronco]

I'll take that ticket Waffle

[Northman]

My thoughts are that Wright is a very accurate Qb but with the U going into Blacksburg im not sure how he will fair against that defense. but, i have a feeling the Canes will pull this one out as FSU's Qb cant hit the broad side of a barn. Hester is looking horrible and maybe he is just thinking too much. I think Moss ( the back ) is a stud and is really kicking some ass out there. my Wahoos need to be scared, very scared. the Cane defense is just out right ugly and menacing. ouch.

[FADERPROOF]

You mean the Broncos of College Football. :)

a Team that needs the best QB in the country in order to win a title?

[SoCalBronco]

a Team that needs the best QB in the country in order to win a title?

nice.

[Mediator12]

too much still going on here Socal. I think Weatherford needs some better blitz protection and Jeff Bowden needs to play action on First down. Weatherford needs confidence and right now the OL and TE's are giving him nothing.

[DB-Freak]

FSU - who cares
UM - Who cares
apparently you, enough that you just had to add you're comment. Nebraska wasn't even a subject in this conversation, whereas the other two teams were. I despise both teams equally and hope for a lot of injuries, but didn't mention such, as I didn't want to offend any PC-ites :loopy:
Hypocrisy at its finest.

[SoCalBronco]

One half to go.

No more mistakes.

No more ****ups.

Bury them.

[SoCalBronco]

Med, you guys need to put Lee in.

[SoCalBronco]

He is terribly inaccurate right now. I think Bowden is going to get Lee in there to try and run QB draws and stuff.

[DivineLegion]

You mean the Broncos of College Football. :)

No Miami creates turnovers...

[SoCalBronco]

dammit we had him right at the LOS. I hate missed tackles.

[SoCalBronco]

3rd down, make a stop.

[SoCalBronco]

nice stop. Our ball. Hester take it to the house.

[SoCalBronco]

why cant we get one of those big plays to happen for us. Great. Goalline D has to hold.

[Clockwork Orange]

Great stand by the Miami D.

[SoCalBronco]

Nice stop. But this is incredibly frustrating. We are dominating the game and were about to be down by 6.

[SoCalBronco]

Wow he missed it.

MAKE PLAYS OFFENSE!!

[Bronco9798]

WoW,, typical for them. The past lives.

[SoCalBronco]

Good job, Greg. We have some breathing room now.

[SoCalBronco]

another great play Greg Olsen. Lets get a TD.

[Pezman]

Wow, such great kicking by FSU ROFL! Socal, the canes look rusty as hell. Why in the world did they schedule this game in week one?

[SoCalBronco]

We cant control it bro. ABC insists this be the opener. Both teams hate it.

[SoCalBronco]

Stupidity. Now we dont have any TOs.

[SoCalBronco]

Gotta get a TD here. FSU is hanging by a thread I feel.

[Pezman]

Hopefully they will come through this one. I want Miami in the top 25 when we beat you down ;)

Tyrone Moss is looking pretty solid running the ball so far bro. He's gotta be close to 100 yards by now...

[SoCalBronco]

Hopefully they will come through this one. I want Miami in the top 25 when we beat you down ;)

Bro, im just hoping you guys dont thug up on us again. LOL

[SoCalBronco]

I agree with this call. Play the field position game. Now we got them inside the 5.

[WaffleBoy]

Nice coverage by State!

The Boy Wonder :super:

[broncos love]

Way to go FSU

[SoCalBronco]

nice TFL. 2nd and long. If we can just stop that screen play, we will be ok.

[SoCalBronco]

WTF you gay ass refs. That was a pick.

BTW I told you guys all about Kenny Phillips.

[SoCalBronco]

We got hosed. Doesnt matter, our ball.

Damn it hester do something now. Score.

[SoCalBronco]

Excellent field position. TD...now.

[SoCalBronco]

This OL is a joke. Just blew a great oppurtunity.

[SoCalBronco]

This is really pissing me off. We should be way ahead.

[SoCalBronco]

God Damn It Pick It The **** Off.

We Cant Afford To Drop That ****.

Im Sick Of This ****. It Was In Your Damn Hands Kelly.

[SoCalBronco]

****ing Bull****. We Should Be Ahead By 20 Points By Now.


Catch The ****ing Gift Pick, Kelly Jennings!!@!!

[SoCalBronco]

We Are Dominating The ****ing Game. Get Points On The Board. Dont Drop Gift Picks.

[broncos love]

I agree cal this should be a blowout by the canes

[SoCalBronco]

Get Hester in there on returns and let him take it back. Make up for his mistakes. Jeez we should be way ahead by now. Im pulling my hair out.

[SoCalBronco]

This OL is a POS.

[Mediator12]

Bring in LEE

[SoCalBronco]

He's coming in Med.

[Mediator12]

Lee needs some protection though too

[Mediator12]

FSU's OL is the Worst they have been in years! Good Lord Jeff Bowden needs to be relegated to Offensive assistant. Minus three yards from the One

[Mediator12]

Time for a long drive!

[SoCalBronco]

FSU now in very good field position. Lets see what Lee can do. He can run, can he throw.

[Mediator12]

Who cares if he can throw? Get a long drive with some points and time for the defense to rest. Then Ice it with the option, baby!

[SoCalBronco]

good job.

[SoCalBronco]

Man. At the 4 yd. line.

[WaffleBoy]

Hester playing like crap.

The Boy Wonder :super:

[SoCalBronco]

great catch by Sinorice Moss and good throw by Kyle.

[SoCalBronco]

great job OL. Good pickup.

[WaffleBoy]

Nice throw by Wright.

The Boy Wonder :super:

[SoCalBronco]

nice. Good job Kyle and Greg.

[Mediator12]

Mickey is wussing out, and No one On the only guy who is catching the ball

[SoCalBronco]

Wow. Greg Olsen Baby

[SoCalBronco]

Gotta get a TD.

[Mediator12]

F***ing Blitz!

[SoCalBronco]

Must get 7 points.

[Rich Karlis]

Olsen likes the 4th quarter........

[WaffleBoy]

State is going to lose again to Miami! Hilarious!

The Boy Wonder :super:

[Mediator12]

Nice Strategy Mickey. F'n Coordinators at FSU Suck!

[SoCalBronco]

Really got to get this third down. We cant afford another FG attempt.

[SoCalBronco]

OLSEN CLUTCH. Great throw Kyle.

[Mediator12]

Cover Olsen And The Drives Are Over Dumb***

[SoCalBronco]

Gotta get 7 points.

[Mediator12]

Maybe you should cover OLSEN!!!

[SoCalBronco]

RYAN MOORE BABY. Lets get a TD

[SoCalBronco]

Get that TD now. Goalline Offense.

[SoCalBronco]

This sucks.

[Mediator12]

Cover Olsen and Blitz

[SoCalBronco]

What a disappointment.

[SoCalBronco]

Penalty on FSU.

[SoCalBronco]

WHY NOT A PENALTY?

Give me a break.

His helment didnt get knocked off you idiots.

[SoCalBronco]

Its ok. 2:30 left. Hold them and return it.

[Mediator12]

About time DAmnit

[WaffleBoy]

YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME? Hilarious! Miami's special teams suck!

The Boy Wonder :super:

[SoCalBronco]

Just hold them. We will get another chance.

BTW Med, that call was BS taking back the flag on Sims.

[WaffleBoy]

Hey, SoCal, are you sure some of the Canes are actually "undercover" State players on special teams? Hilarious!

The Boy Wonder :super:

[SoCalBronco]

Congrats Med.

[Mediator12]

Sorry Socal, that was a game of attrition. Tough way to lose.

THE RIX CURSE IS OVER!!!!!!

[WaffleBoy]

The Canes offensive line and special teams were terrible tonight.

The Boy Wonder :super:

[SoCalBronco]

Very frustrating. 1st down at the 5 and not a single point out of it. Too many mistakes tonight.

[Mediator12]

Mickey Andrews got real lucky on that last drive. He got weak kneed and started to blink on third downs. Plus, what the heck was up with no one covering the only Receiving threat for Miami in Olsen.

[Breck Bronc]

SoCal, I've been at a wedding in Ohio (ugh) all weekend and just got back to Denver a few minutes ago. All I've seen of the game is the final drive, which started off great and ended horribly.

Can you give me a breakdown of how we played in the loss since I don't want to go over to grassy and read all that crap tonight.

Thanks. Congrats FSU, you knew you had to win one of these years.

[Mediator12]

Very frustrating. 1st down at the 5 and not a single point out of it. Too many mistakes tonight.

Both Ways Socal, Both ways.

[Mediator12]

By the way that Raider fan commercial is priceless!

[SoCalBronco]

SoCal, I've been at a wedding in Ohio (ugh) all weekend and just got back to Denver a few minutes ago. All I've seen of the game is the final drive, which started off great and ended horribly.

Can you give me a breakdown of how we played in the loss since I don't want to go over to grassy and read all that crap tonight.

Thanks. Congrats FSU, you knew you had to win one of these years.

On offense:
Kyle started out really slow and was misfiring, threw a couple picks. They got all their 10 points in the first quarter off of our mistakes. Moss had a great night. Very consistent from start to finish, very effective on runs. Kyle got better as the game went on. Moore made an amazing catch basically on a deep jumpball for our TD. Olsen was awesome. We had some problems with dropsies and Hester was awful. He muffed punts and just didnt look very good at all. The biggest culprit was the OL. They just got to us easily and often. Kyle was great in the 2nd,3rd and 4th. We have a good one. We didnt take advantage of the chances we had when we were in their area. We missed 2 short FGs and ofcourse as you saw, Monroe bobbled the last one. We really should have scored about 20 points on these guys. Kyle, Ty Moss, Moore and Olsen were the only ones to step up. The line is a ****ing sieve.

On defense:
Great. They just made Weatherford look awful. He couldnt complete anything at all. The backs made some nice runs on us but for the most part we played pretty well. The only thing working for FSU was little slip screens to the backs. We shut them down cold besides that. We had a great stand when Monroe's punt was blocked in the third and they got the ball at our goalline. We stopped them four times and then they missed the FG. The refs hosed us a bit, Merriweather picked a ball off in their redzone and they called it incomplete. But we ****ed ourselves over too. Jennings had the biggest gift INT you could ever imagine right in his hands and he dropped it. That was also in FSUs end of the field. The defense was great, its just a shame we couldnt pull it out for them.

[broncos love]

A good night for me and espically when ur hot. Bring on next weeks games


!Booya!

[Play2win]

You mean the Broncos of College Football. :)
:sickortir ugh!~

Oh, that makes me about want to puke...

I think, in order to be a Miami Fan, you have to have alittle bit of Faider fan in you.

[SoCalBronco]

We really should have won this game. This one will hurt.

[Breck Bronc]

We really should have won this game. This one will hurt.So I take it we'll have a good year if the oline improves. Kyle looked excellent in the drive I saw.

And here I thought special teams would be a strenght for us this year.

I'm not going to work tomorrow I'm so mad right now.

[Play2win]

Ha-ha!!!

A FSU team with no QB whatsoever takes down the mighty MIAMI.

Was pure PLEASURE to watch!!!

;D Hilarious! rofl

[Breck Bronc]

:sickortir ugh!~

Oh, that makes me about want to puke...

I think, in order to be a Miami Fan, you have to have alittle bit of Faider fan in you.Says the bandwaggon USC fan. Yeah, there's no Faider fan in USC, they only play at the same damn stadium the LA Raiders used to play in :pity: .

[SoCalBronco]

So I take it we'll have a good year if the oline improves. Kyle looked excellent in the drive I saw.

And here I thought special teams would be a strenght for us this year.

I'm not going to work tomorrow I'm so mad right now.

The OL is the biggest POS I have ever seen. Special Teams sucks ass too.

We really looked very special at times tonight. But I suppose its fair in the end. We didnt deserve to beat them last year and needed miracles on the last drive so it balances out. FSU has a great defense this year.

[SoCalBronco]

Ha-ha!!!

A FSU team with no QB whatsoever takes down the mighty MIAMI.

Was pure PLEASURE to watch!!!

;D Hilarious! rofl

Just wait three weeks till your real team gets their heads kicked in by Miami at night in the Orange Bowl.

[Mediator12]

On offense:
Kyle started out really slow and was misfiring, threw a couple picks. They got all their 10 points in the first quarter off of our mistakes. Moss had a great night. Very consistent from start to finish, very effective on runs. Kyle got better as the game went on. Moore made an amazing catch basically on a deep jumpball for our TD. Olsen was awesome. We had some problems with dropsies and Hester was awful. He muffed punts and just didnt look very good at all. The biggest culprit was the OL. They just got to us easily and often. Kyle was great in the 2nd,3rd and 4th. We have a good one. We didnt take advantage of the chances we had when we were in their area. We missed 2 short FGs and ofcourse as you saw, Monroe bobbled the last one. We really should have scored about 20 points on these guys. Kyle, Ty Moss, Moore and Olsen were the only ones to step up. The line is a ****ing sieve.

On defense:
Great. They just made Weatherford look awful. He couldnt complete anything at all. The backs made some nice runs on us but for the most part we played pretty well. The only thing working for FSU was little slip screens to the backs. We shut them down cold besides that. We had a great stand when Monroe's punt was blocked in the third and they got the ball at our goalline. We stopped them four times and then they missed the FG. The refs hosed us a bit, Merriweather picked a ball off in their redzone and they called it incomplete. But we ****ed ourselves over too. Jennings had the biggest gift INT you could ever imagine right in his hands and he dropped it. That was also in FSUs end of the field. The defense was great, its just a shame we couldnt pull it out for them.

couple of things to add,

1. FSU's OL was just as porous as Miami's and Jeff Bowden did his usual poor Halftime lack of adjustments in protection.

2. The refs had a poor game missing several PI calls for Miami, a weak non fumble recovery, and several Late hits by both teams.

3. ST's finally went FSU's way and despite some atrocious playcalling the team outplayed the calls.

[Kaylore]

Well that was a great game. I hate seeing the 'noles win. You guys had multiple chances to win it and just flat out choked. 6+ sacks is inexcusable. That last snap hit the kid right in the hands and he drops it. Your QB woke up that last drive and was nails until the end, too. At least your defense looks good, though.

[Play2win]

FSU's D-Line looks pretty impressive, but I didn't understand why they ever rushed just 3 (sometimes 2?). When they rushed 4, that line was controlling the game.

[Play2win]

Just wait three weeks till your real team gets their heads kicked in by Miami at night in the Orange Bowl.
Oh, you mean CU, right? :poke:

[Mediator12]

Oh Yeah,

I still think Mickey Andrews sucks and the talent carries that defense every year. My Mother would make better defensive calls than Mickey with the game on the line.

[Kaylore]

FSU's D-Line looks pretty impressive, but I didn't understand why they ever rushed just 3 (sometimes 2?). When they rushed 4, that line was controlling the game.
Yeah preassuring the QB was the way to go. It seems like when Miami kept backs inside for max protection that things finally got moving. When games are defensive struggles you suddenly realize how important special teams are.

[SoCalBronco]

Well at least I was right in my preview prediction in post no. 1. Florida State would win by 3, the OL is in shambles and Greg Olsen is the best TE in the country.


Still pissed though. But its karma for beating them last year when we should have lost. Oh well.

[Kaylore]

Well at least I was right in my preview prediction in post no. 1. Florida State would win by 3, the OL is in shambles and Greg Olsen is the best TE in the country.


Still pissed though. But its karma for beating them last year when we should have lost. Oh well.
No joke. Your kick game luck with Florida reversed polarity tonight fo' shizzle.

[Kid A]

As a Nebraska fan I can't give any smack to Miami, but it was pretty fitting that they lost in that fashion. FSU has lost so many games on special teams that it was about time Miami experienced a heartbreaker. I don't know how well either team will do this season if their offenses play like that. It is just the first game. I would expect both QBs to pick it up over the next few weeks. Having your first start against FSU or Miami has to suck.

[Breck Bronc]

Maybe we'll get another chance at them in the ACC Championship Game, if we can correct the offensive line in time for Virginia Tech.

SoCal, how did Clemson look this weekend and how will we match up with them. It's going to be a long two weeks until the 17th.

[Play2win]

The only team I can't stand to win, more than MIAMI, is the Oakland Faiders. And, for the time being, the NE Pats. I don't know of anyone that I grew up with in Colorado that likes Miami. As a matter of a fact, if you would ask most people they would say that their two most hated teams were the Oakland (and LA) Faiders and the Miami Huricanes. It wasn't because of CU, because CU sucked or had sucked for quite a while. It was just that everyone I knew HATED the Faiders, and to most of them MIAMI, was just the Faiders of College Football, so OF COURSE they hated them too.

[SoCalBronco]

Maybe we'll get another chance at them in the ACC Championship Game, if we can correct the offensive line in time for Virginia Tech.

SoCal, how did Clemson look this weekend and how will we match up with them. It's going to be a long two weeks until the 17th.

Clemson barely escaped at home on a last second FG against Texas A&M. We should be able to win that game by 2 TDs. Yep, its all gonna come down to Vag Tech. Their defense is the real deal but Marcus Mexico and the offense didnt do much against NC State.

[Breck Bronc]

The only team I can't stand to win, more than MIAMI, is the Oakland Faiders. And, for the time being, the NE Pats. I don't know of anyone that I grew up with in Colorado that likes Miami. As a matter of a fact, if you would ask most people they would say that their two most hated teams were the Oakland (and LA) Faiders and the Miami Huricanes. It wasn't because of CU, because CU sucked or had sucked for quite a while. It was just that everyone I knew HATED the Faiders, and to most of them MIAMI, was just the Faiders of College Football, so OF COURSE they hated them too.Whatever. Bandwaggoner.

[SoCalBronco]

The only team I can't stand to win, more than MIAMI, is the Oakland Faiders. And, for the time being, the NE Pats. I don't know of anyone that I grew up with in Colorado that likes Miami. As a matter of a fact, if you would ask most people they would say that their two most hated teams were the Oakland (and LA) Faiders and the Miami Huricanes. It wasn't because of CU, because CU sucked or had sucked for quite a while. It was just that everyone I knew HATED the Faiders, and to most of them MIAMI, was just the Faiders of College Football, so OF COURSE they hated them too.

To compare Miami to the Raiders illustrates your ignorance. If we can get past Vag Tech (Its a big if since its in Blacksburg) and then the ACC Championship game, we will be 10 miles away from here in Pasadena and we will lay a severe whipping on your beloved U$C Condoms. This defense is shut down and will expose Leinart for the queer that he is.

First we have to find ourselves an OL.

[Kaylore]

To compare Miami to the Raiders illustrates your ignorance. If we can get past Vag Tech (Its a big if since its in Blacksburg) and then the ACC Championship game, we will be 10 miles away from here in Pasadena and we will lay a severe whipping on your beloved U$C Condoms. This defense is shut down and will expose Leinart for the queer that he is.

First we have to find ourselves an OL.
In your favor, a lot of the mistakes looked to be mental ones and not ability. They just blitzed a lot and your line let guys through.

Leinert is the real deal, though. I can say that because I really couldn't care less about him.

[Play2win]

To compare Miami to the Raiders illustrates your ignorance. If we can get past Vag Tech (Its a big if since its in Blacksburg) and then the ACC Championship game, we will be 10 miles away from here in Pasadena and we will lay a severe whipping on your beloved U$C Condoms. This defense is shut down and will expose Leinart for the queer that he is.

First we have to find ourselves an OL.

No, it just illustrates my opinion. I am not going to say it illustrates your ignorance, but in the area I grew up (Colorado's Front Range) with most of the people that I knew AT THE TIME, Miami was looked on in the same light as the Faiders. That being, The team to root AGAINST. Now of course there were the Oklahomas and Nebraskas, and other such teams, but the team you always wanted to see go down was MIAMI. Thats the way it was. Now, times change, and I'm sure it could be quite different now, but I still feal the same way. And that's why I say, with GREAT pleasure, it was sure nice to see MIAMI LOSE tonight!! ;D

[Play2win]

In all honesty, both those Florida teams looked as though they are going to be real good NEXT YEAR, or possibly, at the very end of this year. Both the QB Positions (for both teams) looked mostly shaky, and in the need for some real experience. Which they will get. But what is extremely evident on both these teams is the pure and absolute athleticism each one possesses. I am sure in a few year's time there will be many first round draft picks originating from these two squads...

[Northman]

Maybe we'll get another chance at them in the ACC Championship Game, if we can correct the offensive line in time for Virginia Tech.

SoCal, how did Clemson look this weekend and how will we match up with them. It's going to be a long two weeks until the 17th.



Your going to have a rougher time with Vtech. the defense is really nasty and their secondary is far better than State's. not too mention Vick is going to frustrate that defense a little bit as well. hate to say it but if Miami continues to play like they did they will have yet another loss for the year.

[Clockwork Orange]

I am sure in a few year's time there will be many first round draft picks originating from these two squads...

http://media.scout.com/Media/College_Football/93817_ewinstontem.JPG

Meet the Broncos future LT.....maybe. :yep:

[Mediator12]

E. Winston did not impress me as much as I thought he could tonight. He played well, but FSU's DE's got the corner on him several times forcing Kyle Up into pressure. Kyle has good Escapability too or FSU could have had three or more sacks to that total. On the Other hand Orien Harris manhandled a pathetic FSU interior OL. None of the FSU QB's had more than a three step drop before there was pressure inside.

The Inability of Andrews to adjust his coverage's to control Olsen in the Last drive was HORRIBLE. Eight Guys in coverage on third down and None of them Near The Only guy to catch a first down pass the whole game for Miami? There is a reason Mickey never got past FSU!

[FADERPROOF]

SoCal, I've been at a wedding in Ohio (ugh) all weekend and just got back to Denver a few minutes ago. All I've seen of the game is the final drive, which started off great and ended horribly.

Can you give me a breakdown of how we played in the loss since I don't want to go over to grassy and read all that crap tonight.

Thanks. Congrats FSU, you knew you had to win one of these years.

Where in Ohio were you in?

[FADERPROOF]

My total unbiased look at the game in recap:

Kyle Wright has a nice future in him, he started out looking like Brock berlin but by the 2nd quarter on he was tossing some darts and making smarter decisions with the ball. My opinion is that he had trouble adjusting to the speed of college football and FSU's zone created problems for him, once he got the speed down and stuck with his main weapon in Olsen, then he was a lot more comfortable in there.

On the other hand, FSU can't buy a QB(and believe me, I'm sure they would.) Weatherford looked aweful in there as 5 of his 7 completions were dumps or angle passes to the RB's. Xavier Lee came in and after the first play, didn't look impressive as well. The gun has a cannon on him, but 2 handoffs and a botched snap from the shotgun negates a dart throw for 10 yards. Florida State escaped this one in spite of their QB's, I don't see them as a NC contender though unless they get some serious improvement.

Both team's RB's looked nice out there, Tyrone Moss was on fire and Miami really should've stuck with him more in the 1st quarter considering ow rusty Kyle Wright looked out there. Him dropping nearly 20 pounds in the offseason really paid off as he was lightning out there with still the power moves, his cramping in the 2nd half really hurt the Canes offense. Booker and Washington was a nice duo out there as well, and the only reason why FSU put up their measily 10 points. I was more impressed with Booker as he seemed more elusive with the gamebreaking speed, but FSU can't go wrong with either.

Ryan Moore and Senorice Moss both impressed me, along with Olsen. Those 3 helped Kyle Wright become more confident in the pocket and Ryan Moore made a nice play for the Canes solde TD by coming back to the ball and getting up over the FSU safety. I would like to comment on FSUs receivers, but considering that there were only 8 completions by the 'Noles with 4 of them going to RB's, its a little tough to give an opinion of how they looked(Fred Rouse might be kicking himself in the ass right now.)

[FADERPROOF]

Miami's OL got pretty dominated, which is exactly what Kyle Wright did not need. To their defense, there were 3 or 4 times that Kyle Wright should've gotten rid of the ball and had a nice chance to, but took the sack instead(the goallin stand that FSU made in the 4th comes to mind of a prime example of him holding onto it.) I agree with Mediator that I wasn't all that impressed with Eric Winston. FSU kept coming off the edge with their DE's and Winston didn't have a chance of stopping them, wasn't all that thrilled in seeing a top rated Ol look like that out there. FSU confused Miami's OL a lot with their blitz packages, seemed a lot of the Ol just stood around looking for others to pick the player up, and the defender would come in clean and have a nice shot at Kyle Wright. FSU's line was better, but were also outmatched as Miami's speed was tough to stop whenever they blitzed. While Weatherford had a ****ty game, it wasn't just his inability to play QB that did it, he had a lot of pressure from the Miami front 4 and LB's and had to look for safety valves in RB's in order to complete passes because of it.

Both of the D's were brilliant, Miami will be an ACC championship contender as long as that D stays intact with the offense that they were showing. FSU MUST have that D come to play every single week in order to be a ACC contender, because that offense wasn't looking great by any means. I agree with SoCalBronco in that Kenny Phillips will be a stud in college annd future top 10 pick in the NFL, he only played sparingly but he made the best out of his playing time. Sims and Nicholson will be the anchors of that FSU D, and Winbly is stepping up nicely on the DL, but their secondary must get better. The loss of Cromartie showed up last night as they could not match speed with the Miami WR's and were flagged for PI on numerous occasions because of it.

[FADERPROOF]

It's time to stop the Devin Hester talk, the guy has the ability to take it to the house, hes fast and elusive, but he's a mile away from being the returner that Teddy Ginn is. He blew a big chance to show how good he really is on the national stage, and didn't do anything with it. The refs were right in calling the fumble out of bounds instead of FSU ball, but he on more than one occasion made a boneheaded play trying to return a punt of kick.

Who would've thought that it would've been the Miami special teams that blew the game, we're so often used to it being FSU that blows the game by missing FG's, botching snaps, and getting punts blocked. FSU did have their share of miscues on special teams, but Miami overshadowed it.

Is it really a wonder why the FSU offensive coordinator is on the hot seat down in Tallahasee? Not only did they score the least amount of points last year than any FSU team since 1981, but that was the most disgusting display of goalline offense since NC State vs. Ohio State back in 2003. Momentum is on your side, you just blocked a punt, you're at the 2 yard line...how do you not score points? Well, if you run the same play to the FB up the middle twice, then on 3rd down decide that instead of running the FB straight up the middle, that you'll try the RB up the middle, then you get the picture as to why they didnt get a TD out of this one. FSU fans have every right to be psised at the FSU playcalling, Miami rightfully should've won that game and that series of downs at the goalline would've been the reason why.

Overall it was a great game, and although FSU won this one, Miami showed to me that they were the better team and will make a bigger splash in the ACC and the national championship picture in the long run as tis season progresses. If the Canes can beat VT and run some ACC table, we could see a re-match in the ACC title game,considering the other teams FSU has in their ACC division I don't see a reason for FSU not represent their division.

Good game Canes-Noles, hopefully we see it again later on in the season.

[SoCalBronco]

thats a really good analysis, DF. Thanks for posting that. I am excited to watch your defense go up against Vince Young on saturday. This has espn classic written all over it.