Is Jerry Rice thinking about retirement before week 1?

[Clockwork Orange]

Adams and/or Devoe have earned a spot, Rice hasn't. Let him retire, go out gracefully, whatever. But if they cut one of these younger guys to keep him on the roster I'll be three shades of pissed off.

[Hotrod]

Adams and/or Devoe have earned a spot, Rice hasn't. Let him retire, go out gracefully, whatever. But if they cut one of these younger guys to keep him on the roster I'll be three shades of pissed off.


^5 Rice is gone Devoe Sticks if for no other reason then hes young and blocks down field (as we know Shanny gets wood from a WR that blocks down field) Woooo HOOO

[Ballhawk]

we can all hope but it is not certain

[SoCalBronco]

I agree. Devoe and Adams have both earned it.

[The Snake]

I'm really liking what I'm seeing out of Todd Devoe.

[Clockwork Orange]

All Devoe seems to do is make plays when given an opportunity. Adams has caught everything thrown his way. Both are contributors on special teams. Rice has shown zero in 4 preseason games.

The only thing that will keep him on this roster is sentimentality and that's no reason to waste a valuable roster spot.

[The Snake]

Keep Jerry still, and release Luke.

[ant1999e]

Will it make two high profile offseason mistakes for Shanny? Will he want to admit it?

[Ballhawk]

Keep Jerry still, and release Luke. cut both

[The Snake]

cut both
cut Nate Jackson! Seriously, what has he done for us? Why did Mike extend his contract??

[ant1999e]

Keep Jerry still, and release Luke.
I say good idea if it is possible. He may make a good mentor for the young guys.

[SoCalBronco]

Will it make two high profile offseason mistakes for Shanny? Will he want to admit it?

It wouldnt be a mistake because it didnt cost us anything.

[Clockwork Orange]

Will it make two high profile offseason mistakes for Shanny? Will he want to admit it?

He gave a veteran a chance and it didn't work out. They didn't give up anything to get him and cutting him will cost them nothing.

It was worth the risk but the guy just doesn't bring anything to the table and it's time to let him go. Especially when you've got younger guys who are busting their asses and making plays.

[The Snake]

Jerry Rice seems to have a look on his face, like a "debating" wheather he should play this season, I don't know its weird, I just seem to be able to detect that from watching him tonight.

It would not surprise me to hear Jerry Rice announce his retirement before week 1. I think he's come to realization he needs to leave the game.

[ant1999e]

It wouldnt be a mistake because it didnt cost us anything.
Niether did MC but that's all the big sports guys talked about.

[Ballhawk]

cut Nate Jackson! Seriously, what has he done for us? Why did Mike extend his contract??

Nate is going to be one hell of a TE, much better prospect than Luke

[Clockwork Orange]

Niether did MC but that's all the big sports guys talked about.

That's because they used a draft pick on Clarett.

Rice cost nothing and that's pretty much what he's given the team this preseason.

[Hotrod]

Rice is going to annonce his "retirement"

Nate WILL stick and be the 3rd TE

Rock & Rice & Sykes & wait for it hold on here it is Sapp is gone......you heard it here first folks.

[GreatBronco16]

Rice and Luke need to be cut. Devoe diffently has to stay.

[Hotrod]

Jerry Rice seems to have a look on his face, like a "debating" wheather he should play this season, I don't know its weird, I just seem to be able to detect that from watching him tonight.

It would not surprise me to hear Jerry Rice announce his retirement before week 1. I think he's come to realization he needs to leave the game.

Rice Will not be "cut" ;)

[Clockwork Orange]

They should be planning the press conference as we speak.

[Clockwork Orange]

Watching Devoe run past these corners and the kind of separation he's getting from defenders is making it even more obvious. He dropped a TD pass, but I guarantee we wouldn't see Rice get himself that open downfield all year.

[DB-Freak]

Our next young Rod SMith.

[GreatBronco16]

Then luke goes and pulls off a big punt return.

[Hotrod]

Then luke goes and pulls off a big punt return.

Yep he just earned himself a job as a Seatle 'seahag' ;D

[Pat Bowlen]

cut Nate Jackson! Seriously, what has he done for us? Why did Mike extend his contract??
Because he knows a lot more than you, maybe?

[Bronco9798]

Jerry Rice needs to go. He really does. I can't see how Shanny can justify keeping him.

[labronco]

cut both

agree.

[Bronco9798]

Jerry needs to understand that Devoe and Adams can help this team more than he can and announce his retirement because Shanny won't cut him.

[Kaylore]

I think they ask him to "retire". Tonight only proved that these young guys can more than do what he does. He's had his chance; let the other guys play.

[Pezman]

With the way Devoe looked tonight, we are gonna see one of the tightest and most difficult cuts ever for our wideouts. Do us a favor Jerry... retire now and save us a spot. Blueflame is begging you ;D

[Broncoman13]

If he doesn't want to retire then I say we force his hand a little... "Jerry, we can do this the hard or we can do this the easy way. It's up to you!"

[ScottXray]

If we keep six then Luke stays. rice definitely needs to go. Hopefully Mike will offer him the chance to "retire", but barring that he should be gone.

I would hate to see Duke cut too. He looked like a young Shannon Sharpe out there tonight. He'll get picked up if we cut him, so that's another problem.
Overall I'm stoked..we have a LOT of weapons, ................................... but one of them isn't named Rice. :hitself:

[orange crusher]

I was going to start a thread about keeping Devoe and cutting Rice, but I see that is already a hot topic. Jerry can no longer get separation. Devoe is always getting open. He's got good size, and will contribute on special teams. Keeping Jerry over him would only be for sentimental reasons. I hope Mike does the right thing.

[Goobzilla]

Someone nailed it earlier. Rice won't play special teams, probably the only #4 WR in the league not on the suicide squad if he stayed. Shanny please show him the door.

[Kaylore]

cut Nate Jackson! Seriously, what has he done for us? Why did Mike extend his contract??
Um no. We definitely want to keep Nate Jackson.

[bronco militia]

allright DB-freak...wtf?!?1/!?

http://72.22.74.110/BB/image.php?u=2637&dateline=1125722672


bwahahahaha!

[Ballhawk]

If we keep six then Luke stays. rice definitely needs to go. Hopefully Mike will offer him the chance to "retire", but barring that he should be gone.

I would hate to see Duke cut too. He looked like a young Shannon Sharpe out there tonight. He'll get picked up if we cut him, so that's another problem.
Overall I'm stoked..we have a LOT of weapons, ................................... but one of them isn't named Rice. :hitself:

No one will pick up Duke, teams just do not have the roster spots to work on projects, paticularly ones they have not had in camp for a month to see. Ernster and Duke are shoe ins for the PS.

[Goobzilla]

I'm tempted to go with just 5 WR's just to hang on to Duke on the active roster. He won't make it to the PS if released, too much raw potential.

[Clockwork Orange]

Final preseason numbers for comparison:

Jerry Rice
4 receptions, 24 yards

Charlie Adams
6 catches, 77 yards

Todd Devoe
10 catches, 210 yards, 2 TDs

[clint7]

Some tough calls tonight. I thought Veal and Devoe certainly played like they wanted the decision to be a very, very hard one on the coaches. I like both these guys.

[Ballhawk]

Final preseason numbers for comparison:

Jerry Rice
4 receptions, 24 yards

Charlie Adams
6 catches, 77 yards

Todd Devoe
10 catches, 210 yards, 2 TDs

Adams and Devoe have added to STs also, really no comparison, but it is Rice so Shanny may get all sentamental and crap...we shall see.

[clint7]

No one will pick up Duke, teams just do not have the roster spots to work on projects, paticularly ones they have not had in camp for a month to see. Ernster and Duke are shoe ins for the PS.

Yeah, the local TV guys were talking during the game like it was going to be impossible to "sneak" Duke past waivers and onto the practice squad. What? The dude hasn't played, until tonight, a game since high school. Those 53 spots are just as important to other teams as they are Denver. I can't imagine someone giving a spot on the 53 roster to Duke on the hope someday he turns into a big time TE...unless his dad was the coach of said team. I think they were being a bit melodramatic about that cut.

[Ballhawk]

Yeah, the local TV guys were talking during the game like it was going to be impossible to "sneak" Duke past waivers and onto the practice squad. What? The dude hasn't played, until tonight, a game since high school. Those 53 spots are just as important to other teams as they are Denver. I can't imagine someone giving a spot on the 53 roster to Duke on the hope someday he turns into a big time TE...unless his dad was the coach of said team. I think they were being a bit melodramatic about that cut.

Every team out there is going to have a hard time slimmin down to 53. I can not think of one team that would have the luxury of picking up any untried rookie UDFA like Duke, and that goes for Ernster too. Although a team with absoloutly horrid punting could take a flyer on him.

[orange crusher]

Some tough calls tonight. I thought Veal and Devoe certainly played like they wanted the decision to be a very, very hard one on the coaches. I like both these guys.

Maybe it's just me, but I thought Devoe helped make the decision easier. Goodbye Jerry.

[bronco militia]

if Shanny's got the guts to draft MoC and cut him, then I'd say he's got the guts to cut the GOAT...

[ScottXray]

No one will pick up Duke, teams just do not have the roster spots to work on projects, paticularly ones they have not had in camp for a month to see. Ernster and Duke are shoe ins for the PS.
Duke definitely..not so sure about Ernster.
Hopefully Duke clears waivers and we can sign him to the PS.
As far as others..Veal is the only one who made at leat PS tonight.
:woowoo:

[clint7]

If the coaches are worried about Ernster not clearing waivers, just send every team tonight's game film of his kickoffs. That should improve the chances of him landing on the practice squad. However, Ballhawk nailed it when he stated some team with horrid punting could take a fly on the guy...and there are some teams out there with big question marks in their kicking game right now.

[GreatBronco16]

Final preseason numbers for comparison:

Jerry Rice
4 receptions, 24 yards

Charlie Adams
6 catches, 77 yards

Todd Devoe
10 catches, 210 yards, 2 TDs

You would think that would make it an easy decision.

[Needa Pass Rush]

It wouldnt be a mistake because it didnt cost us anything.

Totally agree. You bring in Pro athletes and allow them to compete. May the best man win.

I was a GOAT supporter 'til I saw him go tonight. In a replay, I saw him limp on a guy he should have been blocking. He had a couple plays where he was tangled up with is defender because he has lost a step. At this point, I am leaning toward kicking him loose and keeping one of the young guns in his place. Rice certainly had value just being present (when he was) in training camp, but it may be time to say farewell.

[clint7]

PS: I'm real drunk, by the way...please excuse any glaring typos.

:alky:

[GreatBronco16]

I really like Duke. He is big and stong and tonight he showed some good hands on catching then pushing for more yards.


Wait, that sounded kinda sick.

Oh well.

[Needa Pass Rush]

Duke definitely..not so sure about Ernster.
Hopefully Duke clears waivers and we can sign him to the PS.
As far as others..Veal is the only one who made at leat PS tonight.
:woowoo:
I was impressed with Veal tonight, too, Xray.

[Needa Pass Rush]

Maybe it's just me, but I thought Devoe helped make the decision easier. Goodbye Jerry.



:thumbsup:

[Blueflame]

With the way Devoe looked tonight, we are gonna see one of the tightest and most difficult cuts ever for our wideouts. Do us a favor Jerry... retire now and save us a spot. Blueflame is begging you ;D

Ha! I certainly am, Pez. No way should 3 preseason receptions for under 25 yards earn a roster spot.

The Denver news just said that per a source very high up in the organization, Rice will make the team... but the reporters were saying from what they've seen, he isn't even among the top 5 WRs...

IMO, Devoe, Luke, and Adams all outplayed Rice.

[clint7]

Totally agree. You bring in Pro athletes and allow them to compete. May the best man win.

I was a GOAT supporter 'til I saw him go tonight. In a replay, I saw him limp on a guy he should have been blocking. He had a couple plays where he was tangled up with is defender because he has lost a step. At this point, I am leaning toward kicking him loose and keeping one of the young guns in his place. Rice certainly had value just being present (when he was) in training camp, but it may be time to say farewell.

Yeah, at first I thought (and I guess still do) his experience could help in the redzone and insurance. But watching the preseason, he seems to not care. He has a look on his face like his mind is somewhere else. He also didn't even try for one pass that was heading out of bounds tonight. He just gave up on it, but the defender didn't. He caught it for an INT but was way out of bounds, so no INT...but at least THAT player was trying for it.

I just don't get it. I hear all this talk about work ethic with him, but in the games I've seen, he seems like his head is in another county. If that's the case, check yourself out and let some hungry player have a uniform. If you want to still play, bust your butt! I think that big hit he took over the middle against the Colts...or maybe it was the 49ers...gave him a wake-up call that he might not want the grind of this anymore. But who knows, I could be wrong. I did, at one time, think he could help.

[SimonFletcher73]

Has Rice even got the playing time or looks to suggest that much?

I just haven't seen that much of him yet. Devoe could be our 3 sometime this year. I was that impressed. Even the impact on special teams, like the fumble he caused last week. This guy is a playmaker. If it's Rice or Devoe, I take Devoe. If it's Rice or Adams. I'm not that sure.

[Needa Pass Rush]

Adams and Devoe have added to STs also, really no comparison, but it is Rice so Shanny may get all sentamental and crap...we shall see.

I thinks Shanahan's desire to win will override any lingering sentiment.

[clint7]

Has Rice even got the playing time or looks to suggest that much?

I just haven't seen that much of him yet. Devoe could be our 3 sometime this year. I was that impressed. Even the impact on special teams, like the fumble he caused last week. This guy is a playmaker. If it's Rice or Devoe, I take Devoe. If it's Rice or Adams. I'm not that sure.

Yeah, I know a ton of people here really like Adams...I could go either way with the guy. I would feel for Devoe and Veal, like I said before, if they got cut. Those guys really seemed to give it their best this preseason.

[baja]

If you noticed the look on jerry Rice's face toward the end of the third quarter it was like the light went on for him and it said, "Damn it's time for me to retire.

[SimonFletcher73]

If we had drafted a Fred Gibson or Chris Henry would they have even made it? The depth is nice. No Travis McGriffs or Chris Cole type players. If Jerry gets beat out it's because of the hustle of these young guys.

[wabbit]

Jerry Rice seems to have a look on his face, like a "debating" wheather he should play this season, I don't know its weird, I just seem to be able to detect that from watching him tonight...



I agree, I got the same...almost uncomfortable...feeling watching him sit on the bench & watch those kids do the things he used to do so easily.

I do get the sense Jerry may hang 'em up before the cuts are made...just a feeling

[orange crusher]

The Denver news just said that per a source very high up in the organization, Rice will make the team... but the reporters were saying from what they've seen, he isn't even among the top 5 WRs...

:gripe: :cuss: :-[

[orange crusher]

I agree, I got the same...almost uncomfortable...feeling watching him sit on the bench & watch those kids do the things he used to do so easily.

I do get the sense Jerry may hang 'em up before the cuts are made...just a feeling

I sure hope you're right Wabbit.

[Odysseus]

Um no. We definitely want to keep Nate Jackson.

Regardless of how this plays out it looks like the Broncos are going to be fun this year. I'm really glad the Broncos are deep at WR. I hope Anderson keeps pushing Bell. The trick is keeping everybody healthy.

Take a look around and see who is posting today and see whose posting end of the season. Watch! The Bandwagon guys are coming.

[Odysseus]

I agree, I got the same...almost uncomfortable...feeling watching him sit on the bench & watch those kids do the things he used to do so easily.

I do get the sense Jerry may hang 'em up before the cuts are made...just a feeling

I got that same feeling two weeks ago. He kept players focused and on it so I am glad he came to the team.

[Kaylore]

Regardless of how this plays out it looks like the Broncos are going to be fun this year. I'm really glad the Broncos are deep at WR. I hope Anderson keeps pushing Bell. The trick is keeping everybody healthy.

Take a look around and see who is posting today and see whose posting end of the season. Watch! The Bandwagon guys are coming.
I know what you mean. Bandwagon's can be two-faced. There's some, usually the young guys, who get on and don't get off, and then there's the guys who get on and then after two loses leave, never to be heard from again.

[lookin' glass]

Certainly this pre-season is much better than last year offensively. The D-line looks much more capable at putting on pressure. The young guys, on both sides of the ball, are energized and energizing. The whole team is playing with more confidence. The slackers are being run off.

[Needa Pass Rush]

The trick is keeping everybody healthy.




This is so huge.... so key. Can I get a collective knock-on-wood from the Bronco faithful?? :notworthy

[maven]

Nobody touch my adopt a bronco, devoe! Paws off!

[watermock]

Shanahan isn't obligated to give Goat a farewell tour riding the pine. He needs to bring Jerry in and ask him to retire. They have roots from S.F. He never was a speedster, now I didn't see the game, but don't tell me they are just resting him because they know what he can do. He's 43 soon...a very few QB's can play into their 40's, that's about it. If they cut DEVO to keep Goat, I will go postal. Holmgren let him go, and he's not a bad or insensitive coach. With all the DL and RB depth, and LB depth, to waste a roster spot because the guy is a supposed leader is ludicrous. I have never really heard that Rice is some great leader...he leads by example, or used to, but usually when he would get upset, it was about the number of touches he was getting.

[orange crusher]

Shanahan isn't obligated to give Goat a farewell tour riding the pine. He needs to bring Jerry in and ask him to retire. They have roots from S.F. He never was a speedster, now I didn't see the game, but don't tell me they are just resting him because they know what he can do. He's 43 soon...a very few QB's can play into their 40's, that's about it. If they cut DEVO to keep Goat, I will go postal. Holmgren let him go, and he's not a bad or insensitive coach. With all the DL and RB depth, and LB depth, to waste a roster spot because the guy is a supposed leader is ludicrous. I have never really heard that Rice is some great leader...he leads by example, or used to, but usually when he would get upset, it was about the number of touches he was getting.

It wasn't that he was being rested Mock. He got plenty of playing time, but just didn't do anything with it.

[ludo21]

Shanahan isn't obligated to give Goat a farewell tour riding the pine. He needs to bring Jerry in and ask him to retire. They have roots from S.F. He never was a speedster, now I didn't see the game, but don't tell me they are just resting him because they know what he can do. He's 43 soon...a very few QB's can play into their 40's, that's about it. If they cut DEVO to keep Goat, I will go postal. Holmgren let him go, and he's not a bad or insensitive coach. With all the DL and RB depth, and LB depth, to waste a roster spot because the guy is a supposed leader is ludicrous. I have never really heard that Rice is some great leader...he leads by example, or used to, but usually when he would get upset, it was about the number of touches he was getting.


Agreed Mock.. i watched Rice almost everytime he was in there, and he just looked slow and unenthused. Looking thru my binocluars he looked bored and just in thinking mode... hopefully wabbit and crew and right and he retires before cuts.. :pray:

[watermock]

The net feed said Denver was ranked #1 in offense in preseason. I think the Cards had 28 yards rushing at the half.

[Rocket 7]

The preseason all star team

Kevin Kasper
Billy Miller
Chris Doering
Travis McGriff
Chris Cole
Herb Haygood

Nobody on this list is as good as Rice this year. I like Adams, Devoe, and Luke. I just like Rice better

[Crushaholic]

What Rice brings to the table is experience in knowing what to do in real game situations. Having said that, Adams and Devoe looked good. Devoe won't survive the waiver wire if that's where he is sent.

[bloodsunday]

cut both
If we keep 5 it should be Smith, Lelie, Watts, Devoe, and Adams. If we go six I'd prefer Luke over Rice because of special teams. Keeping rice as a specialist is really a problem in my opinion. Devoe, Adams, and Luke are starting to show something and Rice has showed us nothing.

Let's hope he and Shanny talk and he hangs em' up.

[bloodsunday]

What Rice brings to the table is experience in knowing what to do in real game situations. Having said that, Adams and Devoe looked good. Devoe won't survive the waiver wire if that's where he is sent.
Agreed. I'm not sure Adams or Luke would either. Both can play special teams, especially if Darrent is forced into duty as a starting corner. Then we don't have to make him due double duty as a returner.

[Meck77]

Adams is a lock. They had an interview with Sundquist before the game on pre-game and he was praising Adams to no end. We can't let Devoe go. No way. Luke is fighting for the job. The goat has to go.

If Rice stays I will lead the protest in the streets of Denver! We will march to the captial! THE GOAT MUST GO!!! THE GOAT MUST GO!!!!

[elsid13]

I was supporter of Rice being here, but after last night it is evident that he has lost not one step but two or three. The moment that that made it clear for me was fly pattern where he looked like the corner instead of the wr. Devoe looks like he belongs, just like Rod Smith did in the Redskin game when caught Elway's TD for the win.

[bendog]

I hope they cut the goat, but they won't.

[BroncosMT]

Rice can still get open for the six or seven yard completions that we need on thrid down. I say cut Triandos "I have cement for hands" Luke. That guy bobbles everything. Plus I think Shanny learned a long time ago when he cut Sharpe how important it is to have Veteran presence in the lockerroom so I think Rice stays.

As far as Ernster goes...I was not impressed at all. Did any kickoff go past the 10 yard line?? Sign the Rackers from Arizona....now there is someone that can kick the ball a country mile. I think he kicked one through the uprights..WOW!!

[baja]

I hope they cut the goat, but they won't.

Many of us here felt that having Rice in training camp was a good idea and it was. We needed his leadership and to have his work ethic on display for the younger guys. We said let's see what the old "GOAT" has got left in the tank.

Well training camp is over and pre season is over and it's time for the final roster cuts so it's also time to assess all the players. Jerry Rice has not earned a spot on the final roster plain and simple.

Bottom line...... Rest assured Shanahan will keep the best 53 players that will help the Broncos win football games.

[orinjkrush]

Adams and/or Devoe have earned a spot, Rice hasn't. Let him retire, go out gracefully, whatever. But if they cut one of these younger guys to keep him on the roster I'll be three shades of pissed off.

i agree. rep. rice cant get separation ^5

[ØrangeÇrush]

If we keep 5 it should be Smith, Lelie, Watts, Devoe, and Adams. If we go six I'd prefer Luke over Rice because of special teams. Keeping rice as a specialist is really a problem in my opinion. Devoe, Adams, and Luke are starting to show something and Rice has showed us nothing.

Let's hope he and Shanny talk and he hangs em' up.


If we go six, I think my Adopt-a-bronco: Roc Alexander is gone....

Cut that meat
cut that meat
cut that goat
cut that goat

[baja]

Roc has been invisible this pre season

[bendog]

very disappointed

[minibronco]

The problem is that Shanny wants to stay away from the reputation of "THE COACH WHO CUT THE LEGENDARY JERRY RICE AND PUT HIM AT REST"

[elsid13]

The problem is that Shanny wants to stay away from the reputation of "THE COACH WHO CUT THE LEGENDARY JERRY RICE AND PUT HIM AT REST"


I think he is more concern about gaining the reputation of "THE COACH WHO WON 3 SUPERBOWLS" and doesn't give a F*** about anything else.

[clint7]

The preseason all star team

Kevin Kasper
Billy Miller
Chris Doering
Travis McGriff
Chris Cole
Herb Haygood

Nobody on this list is as good as Rice this year. I like Adams, Devoe, and Luke. I just like Rice better

Good point, and I would have agreed until last night. I kept waiting for him to look like the guy who claims to "love to play football"...he looks more like a guy who doesn't like to play anymore, for some reason.

[Bronco9798]

Rice can still get open for the six or seven yard completions that we need on thrid down. I say cut Triandos "I have cement for hands" Luke. That guy bobbles everything. Plus I think Shanny learned a long time ago when he cut Sharpe how important it is to have Veteran presence in the lockerroom so I think Rice stays.

As far as Ernster goes...I was not impressed at all. Did any kickoff go past the 10 yard line?? Sign the Rackers from Arizona....now there is someone that can kick the ball a country mile. I think he kicked one through the uprights..WOW!!


We have plenty of veteran leadership in the locker room. Hanging on to Rice for that reason wouldn't be a good move by Shanny.

He really needs to just go away.

[bendog]

When he took off to help his kid look at schools I decided he no longer had it in the tank, but I'll believe shanny will cut him when I see it.

btw, there was only one Goat

[broncosteven]

Because he knows a lot more than you, maybe?

Ur just saying that because u hired Shanny. LOL

[broncosteven]

I was supporter of Rice being here, but after last night it is evident that he has lost not one step but two or three. The moment that that made it clear for me was fly pattern where he looked like the corner instead of the wr. Devoe looks like he belongs, just like Rod Smith did in the Redskin game when caught Elway's TD for the win.

I wondered if Shanny didn't have him run that to get the GOAT himself to realize it is time to hang it up.

He looked Dazed out there all night, Hopefully he was just trying to absorb the experience one last time before calling a Press Confrence to announce his Retirement. If not then his Altzimers must of kicked in & he forgot there was a game on...

[baja]

I have great respect for Jerry Rice and wish every Bronco player had his dedication to his craft.

As Shanny said Rice arguably is the best to ever play the game at any position and he deserves respect.

[dsmoot]

Rice can still get open for the six or seven yard completions that we need on thrid down. I say cut Triandos "I have cement for hands" Luke. That guy bobbles everything. Plus I think Shanny learned a long time ago when he cut Sharpe how important it is to have Veteran presence in the lockerroom so I think Rice stays.

As far as Ernster goes...I was not impressed at all. Did any kickoff go past the 10 yard line?? Sign the Rackers from Arizona....now there is someone that can kick the ball a country mile. I think he kicked one through the uprights..WOW!!


Sharpe cut???? Allowed to sign elsewhere!!!!!

[orange 4 life]

Keep Jerry still, and release Luke.

i dont have a problem with that at all, but to keep adams, rice, and devoe would mean keeping 6 wr's, and thats something the team is probably not wanting to do considering there's other positions (d-line and secondary namely) where excessive depth is much more valuable.

[ScottXray]

I have great respect for Jerry Rice and wish every Bronco player had his dedication to his craft.

As Shanny said Rice arguably is the best to ever play the game at any position and he deserves respect.

Respect for Rice is fine! A roster spot is not. We have young players that have earned a spot on this team ahead of JR.
Yes, he will be in the hall of fame! And that will be in 4 years and 10 1/2 months from today since it will be his retirement anniversary.

Respect for Shanahan is what matters...after the season is over and we kick ass. He can't be blamed for giving the GOAT a shot, if it ends up having the issue forced. :Broncos: Nnyah!

[orange 4 life]

Jerry Rice seems to have a look on his face, like a "debating" wheather he should play this season, I don't know its weird, I just seem to be able to detect that from watching him tonight.

It would not surprise me to hear Jerry Rice announce his retirement before week 1. I think he's come to realization he needs to leave the game.

i saw that same look, or at least i perceived it the same way.

he definately looked like he was pondering, and what else would he be thinking about that deeply at that time?

i think a retirement announcement could be coming too, and that sure would make the teams decision making process alot easier.

[Arkie]

I read that Rice made a couple of circus catches in camp, but I never heard Kaylore talk about them. Rice showed Shanny how much he still had. Shanny knows best what he could do. Well, Gruden tried to sign Rice too. It's the coaches that know the Goat the best, that want him on their team. It seems like the mob mentality here has been growing since the day we signed him. Devoe needed some chances during game situations to prove he belonged on the team just like Watts needed more opportunities to earn the #3 spot. I think they both stepped up to the plate last night. I think we will keep six WRs. I can't believe how deep our Broncos are. This is feeling like the year.

[baja]

Respect for Rice is fine! A roster spot is not. We have young players that have earned a spot on this team ahead of JR.
Yes, he will be in the hall of fame! And that will be in 4 years and 10 1/2 months from today since it will be his retirement anniversary.

Respect for Shanahan is what matters...after the season is over and we kick ass. He can't be blamed for giving the GOAT a shot, if it ends up having the issue forced. :Broncos: Nnyah!

If you had read my earlier posts you would know I was one of the first to say Rice did not earn his roster spot. With the respect comment I was responding to posters dissing Rice saying his Alzheimer is affecting his play etc....

[orange 4 life]

Ha! I certainly am, Pez. No way should 3 preseason receptions for under 25 yards earn a roster spot.

The Denver news just said that per a source very high up in the organization, Rice will make the team... but the reporters were saying from what they've seen, he isn't even among the top 5 WRs...

IMO, Devoe, Luke, and Adams all outplayed Rice.

flame,

sundquist on the radio a week or so ago basically said the first five were set.
it of course wasnt set in stone, but it was clear enough.
he mentioned smith, lelie, watts, rice, and adams, and then said "and then there's the guys on the bubble" or something to that effect.
made it seem pretty clear, but then again, things can change, and rice himself could decide he wants to hang them up (which it looked like he was pondering at games end) instead of spending the year as the #4 guy (and he will be the #4 at best if he stays)

[Odysseus]

Adams is a lock. They had an interview with Sundquist before the game on pre-game and he was praising Adams to no end. We can't let Devoe go. No way. Luke is fighting for the job. The goat has to go.

If Rice stays I will lead the protest in the streets of Denver! We will march to the captial! THE GOAT MUST GO!!! THE GOAT MUST GO!!!!

Wouldn't that make him an "eScaped GOAT"? :poke:

I'm bringing Jerry out to your tailgate so you can apologize personally. No. Better yet we're coming by your office. I want to see you say this to Jerry in person! ;D

I'm really offended by the people who think that Shanny needs to "grow a nutsack". Shanny craps bigger than you.

Jerry was brought in to push Watts and maybe beat him but what is the upside to Rice if you have three guys who might be able to spell or replace your 3rd WR?

It's unfortunate but if Rice can't beat Watts he needs to seek another team.

[clint7]

I also keep thinking back to a comment Plummer made about a week before they signed Rice. Asked about how he felt regarding the fact that they didn't sign any WRs during FA this year or the draft. He replied that they didn't need to bring someone new in, they already had great vets in Rod and Ashley and some great young talent, why bring someone else in when we already have the talent to get it done...then a week or so later they brought in Rice. I wonder if privately the guys still feel that way?

[watermock]

If you had read my earlier posts you would know I was one of the first to say Rice did not earn his roster spot. With the respect comment I was responding to posters dissing Rice saying his Alzheimer is affecting his play etc....

That is Slappy's expert analysis.

[baja]

I wondered if Shanny didn't have him run that to get the GOAT himself to realize it is time to hang it up.

He looked Dazed out there all night, Hopefully he was just trying to absorb the experience one last time before calling a Press Confrence to announce his Retirement. If not then his Altzimers must of kicked in & he forgot there was a game on...

Actually it was this one Mock

[maven]

I have great respect for Jerry Rice and wish every Bronco player had his dedication to his craft.

As Shanny said Rice arguably is the best to ever play the game at any position and he deserves respect.


Nothing wrong with respecting the guy. We're talking about making the football team & he clearly doesn't have it anymore. It's time for him to retire & give the roster spot to someone else.

[baja]

If you had read my earlier posts you would know I was one of the first to say Rice did not earn his roster spot. With the respect comment I was responding to posters dissing Rice saying his Alzheimer is affecting his play etc....

Hey maven don't you read too good.........

[watermock]

Slappy was in the chat room saying Rice was running the wrong way and had alzheimers.

Sorry. I guess others thought the same thing tho.

[-Slap-]

I'm not a medical professional, though. Could be he just went senile.

[Blueflame]

flame,

sundquist on the radio a week or so ago basically said the first five were set.
it of course wasnt set in stone, but it was clear enough.
he mentioned smith, lelie, watts, rice, and adams, and then said "and then there's the guys on the bubble" or something to that effect.
made it seem pretty clear, but then again, things can change, and rice himself could decide he wants to hang them up (which it looked like he was pondering at games end) instead of spending the year as the #4 guy (and he will be the #4 at best if he stays)

Hi, Jake!

On the news last night, Shanahan was also asked if Rice was among the players "on the bubble" and he said "yes". Guess now we wait to see if he really meant that or not... or if sentimentality will trump practicality.

[Drek]

I don't know, assuming we go with 6 WRs I want them to be Ashley, Rod, Watts, Devoe, Adams, and Rice. Luke hasn't proven jack on the field other than he's generally inconsistant. His value as a KR/PR is minimal since Darrent Williams is the defacto starter there and Adams has looked much more consistant while equally explosive in the same duties. A 3rd KR/PR is also on the roster already with Q. So then Luke needs to beat Rice out by offering something the rest of the 2nd team WRs can't. Rice brings veteran poise, precise routes, and solid hands. Luke brings his speed but lack size or technique. Devoe and Adams have wheels too, as does Watts, so that isn't as needed a skill.

Basically, I don't see any place where Luke is put on the field short of an injury. Rice could however in short yardage and red zone situations where his lack of speed is less important and his veteran skills are.

Me personally, I don't like what Rice has shown enough to give him a roster spot over other guys on the bubble at other positions. Louis Green, Clement, Pope, Roc Alexander, etc., all look to have more value to me than a 6th WR does at this point. Throw Q in at 3rd team WR during practice and you get a similar skill set to Luke anyhow.

[Needa Pass Rush]

I thinks Shanahan's desire to win will override any lingering sentiment.

There I go thinksing again. I want to see some fire from the GOAT.

[Clockwork Orange]

There I go thinksing again. I want to see some fire from the GOAT.

Screw fire, let's see him get some separation from a defender. He didn't do it at all during the preseason.

[Cito Pelon]

I'd take Luke over Rice. Luke had game presence last year, and I like young guys that have game presence. I can point to KJ, who was actually CUT last year in the first cut, and now he's one stud dude.

[Clockwork Orange]

It's obvious that Rice didn't need to even suit up for any preseason games, he had this team made no matter what. He got outplayed by practically every receiver on the roster and is somehow still here.

Q, Sykes, Davis, Myers, Leseur, Palepoi, Luke are all gone but Jerry Rice gets his farewell tour. That's just ****ing great.

[RyanPatton]

Jerry Rice having a big problem retiring from NFL? A lot of NFL players retired by age 40. I think Jerry Rice loves football too much since he was a little kid and just cant stop playing football like he is a addict to it. I dunno if Jerry Rice really meant this will be his last season then retired. If JR retired does that mean Bronoco can call back 1 of 18 cut roster back in the roster if JR retired before week 1 post-season start?

[Broncoman13]

Just as I've been saying!!!

Published Sat Sep 3 9:07:00 p.m. ET 2005
(KFFL) NBCSports.com reports Denver Broncos WR Jerry Rice has made the team's roster, but he still may not play this year. The team informed him that he will be their No. 4 receiver and Rice may consider retirement instead of being buried on the depth chart. His agent, Jim Steiner, told ESPN that Rice will take a few days to think about what direction he wants to take.

There was another one on KFFL.com that said Watts has regained the #3!!!

[Broncoman13]

Jerry Rice having a big problem retiring from NFL? A lot of NFL players retired by age 40. I think Jerry Rice loves football too much since he was a little kid and just cant stop playing football like he is a addict to it. I dunno if Jerry Rice really meant this will be his last season then retired. If JR retired does that mean Bronoco can call back 1 of 18 cut roster back in the roster if JR retired before week 1 post-season start?


So long as some other team doesn't grab them first.

Honestly, we wouldn't have kept Poison if it weren't for Rice retiring. I've been saying this for a couple days now. I guarantee Rice won't be on the Broncos team a week from tomorrow. The plan has and will continue to be 5 WR's.

If for some reason that plan changed here are some names to think about that would be better options than Triandos Luke.

Reggie Swinton who was cut by the Texans. I can only assume that they feel Mathis is their KR/PR and thus made Swinton expendable. Dude is a great returner!!!

David Terrell who was cut by the Pats. I'm not sure he's any better than what we have currently, but if we're thinking about keeping six (I doubt it!) he wouldn't be a bad one.


Other cuts to note. Jed Weaver was cut again! Wesley Britt was cut. Steve Sciullo and Scott Young (both G's) were cut. Hugh Douglas was also cut. So far those are the most noteable to me. There will be plenty more!

[baja]

Jerry Rice having a big problem retiring from NFL? A lot of NFL players retired by age 40. I think Jerry Rice loves football too much since he was a little kid and just cant stop playing football like he is a addict to it. I dunno if Jerry Rice really meant this will be his last season then retired. If JR retired does that mean Bronoco can call back 1 of 18 cut roster back in the roster if JR retired before week 1 post-season start?

Ryan you spelled bronco wrong, normaly we don't call someone on spelling but dude you spelled Bronco wrong, geez!!

[Atlas]

Ryan you spelled bronco wrong, normaly we don't call someone on spelling but dude you spelled Bronco wrong, geez!!

No he spelled it right. He was talking about the Memphis Bronocos. A very good semi-pro league.

Who am I to criticize for spelling or typos!!!! LOL

[RyanPatton]

No he spelled it right. He was talking about the Memphis Bronocos. A very good semi-pro league.

Who am I to criticize for spelling or typos!!!! LOL

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