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watermock
08-29-2005, 05:45 PM
PFT just says they are "dumped" and doesn't comment whatsoever. Where is the indignant outrage? :kubiak: Cobbs was 128, Reid, 113 overall. Clarett was 101. Tell me the big difference! Well, this clown hates the Shanahan, and blows Billichick.
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The situation seems to have been less emotional and more a simple product of depth chart standing for the two guys selected in the fourth round a year ago in Cobbs (128th overall) and Reid (113th overall). Cobbs played in just four games as a rookie (22 carries, 50 yards) after starting the year on PUP and once again battle injuries this summer. The backfield stable of Corey Dillon, Kevin Faulk, Kory Chapman, Patrick Pass and Kyle Eckel made the former 1,000-yard rusher at Arkansas expendable.

“There were other people ahead of him,” Belichick said. “We have to cut our numbers down and the guys that are ahead are here and the guys that were further down aren't. Although, in Davey’s case it was a little bit more of a special situation. There were a lot of circumstances involved in that one. There are other players ahead of Cedric.”

Not being able to stay healthy or prove his value clearly played a big part in Cobbs not being able to win a job in New England.

“It certainly didn’t help any,” Belichick said. “We drafted him at a point where a lot of players at that level do contribute. He never really got on the field for a consistent amount of time, so that didn't help him. Whether he had, whether that would’ve made any difference or not, who knows. Maybe that will happen somewhere else for him and then if it does then that team will get a better evaluation. We just ran out of time.”

Reid played in 13 games as a rookie in 2004 and all three postseason contests with most of the action coming on special teams. With the addition of rookie James Sanders and the return of second-year player Guss Scott to add depth behind Rodney Harrison and Eugene Wilson, left little room for the former North Carolina player. And Belichick admitted that the extended playing time as a rookie can sometimes lull a player into a false sense of security.

“It’s possible,” Belichick answered to a question directly referencing Reid. “It would be hard for me to say what’s inside of each player’s mind, what he thinks of himself or his role or the team or anything else. But, yes, I think that’s possible. Sometimes you hear about guys who do better in their first year than in their second year. There could be a lot of reasons for that, but it’s not like he was here for a full year. So we’re just basing the evaluation on what we saw last year and what we’ve seen this year in camp, from not only him, but from the other players that he is competing with, not only at his position, but also other players on the roster that would compete for playing time in the kicking game.”

Belichick was especially moved by the decision to say goodbye to Davey, who’d spent the last three seasons in New England.

“As always, the hardest part of this job is having to release players,” Belichick said. “I have a lot of respect for what those guys have done, especially Rohan who has been here for three years, [and has won] a couple of championships, has been a great leader and has done really everything that we’ve asked him to do.”

But in the end that respect was not enough to keep Davey in a Patriots uniform. The team’s fourth-round pick in 2002 (117th overall), the former LSU star played in seven games in three seasons and completed 8-of-19 passes for 88 yards. After serving as Tom Brady’s backup last season, Davey spent the summer battling veteran Doug Flutie and 2005 seventh-round pick Matt Cassel for playing time behind the two-time Super Bowl MVP.

Arkie
08-29-2005, 05:48 PM
Cobbs can't stay healthy. He's been hurt every year since high school.

Ballhawk
08-29-2005, 05:49 PM
If we had back to back SBs, we would be given a free pass too.

DBroncos4life
08-29-2005, 05:52 PM
I thought Cobbs would end up being a good back in the NFL. He has pretty good size but if you can't stay healthy then you won't make it in the NFL. Also wasn't Reid a pretty good player in college?

SoCalBronco
08-29-2005, 06:10 PM
I liked Cobbs in the 04 draft. Lets talk to him. He could beat out at least Q.

Ballhawk
08-29-2005, 06:13 PM
I liked Cobbs in the 04 draft. Lets talk to him. He could beat out at least Q.

For better or Worse Q is on the squad for another year. Besides unless a trade happens we are well set at RB. I am comfortable with any of the top 3 starting, and Q could even be ok for a game.

watermock
08-29-2005, 06:28 PM
Cobbs has battle injuries? Didn't the great Billichick know he would battle injuries? The point is, all this consternation about Clarett is completely overblown. I liked Cobb, what injuries did he have? He was a beast if I remember. I wouldn't mind taking a peek at Reid either, considering we have Brandon on the squad. Lynch has looked slow. Doesn't matter if an old dog can still smell...he's got to be able to still hunt.

clint7
08-29-2005, 06:52 PM
If we had back to back SBs, we would be given a free pass too.

We did. :)

Within 24 hours, Sean Salisbury will be on ESPN lapping the collective sack of the Pats front office for having the courage to cut fourth rounders. ::)

Dr. Broncenstein
08-29-2005, 08:43 PM
Man... I'd dump Q for Cobbs in a flash....

Crushisback
08-29-2005, 09:03 PM
I like having Q in the backfield, or with the team atleast. Our mix at TB this year is awesome. Each back offers a needed deminsion to this offense.

labronco
08-29-2005, 09:04 PM
We did. :)

Within 24 hours, Sean Salisbury will be on ESPN lapping the collective sack of the Pats front office for having the courage to cut fourth rounders. ::)

sean salisbury should be banned from tv.

SoCalBronco
08-29-2005, 09:32 PM
Q is an extremely nice person and I love his work ethic and dedication. Unfortuneatly, that will only get you so far. Cobbs is a great runner. Superior to Q in all aspects except for being a threat in the pass game (although Qs small hands hurt him there) and in space. I still remember that game against Texas. Bring Cedric aboard, it costs us nothing. If he continues to get hurt, we invested squat and we get squat. Its a wash at worst.

labronco
08-29-2005, 10:04 PM
i like Q. Q can juke with the best of them since you know who. but he is not fit for our running style. he also is not a good special teamer.

fontaine
08-30-2005, 02:21 AM
Interesting. I wonder if they bring in Cobbs for a look. The guy does have a lot of cutback ability and vision but he's not the fastest guy. I think he was injured for most of the season last year with a bad hammy but when healthy he could do a lot of damage in our system. But then again the Broncos seem to be happy with who they have back there.

I will say though, if Ron Dayne only looks good in preseason and starts looking slow to the hole and indecisive like he was in NY then I wouldn't mind the team bringing in Cobbs at his expense.

Dr. Broncenstein
08-30-2005, 05:48 AM
Cobbs is big and fast.... has great instincts... and would fit our system perfectly. He was never fully utilized at Arkansas... and ran for 1000 yards his senior year splitting carries with two other backs + Matt Jones. I was hoping we would draft him last year. I'm very supprised New England cut him. Bring this guy in ASAP

Arkie
08-30-2005, 09:04 AM
Cobbs was one of the most highly recruited athletes coming out of high school. He was faster than his current 4.43 speed during his freshman year. It seems like he lost that extra gear after he kept getting injured. He still has powerful legs and can break some tackles, but I saw defenders that caught him in his later years that wouldn't have during his first year. He hasn't really had much of a chance to prove himself at New England. He's had 3 carries for 9 yards and one fumble this preseason. He had 22 carries for 50 yards last year, but I think he's been playing hurt. He's had the worst luck with injuries, but at least he's got a ring already without having to do anything.

Great13
08-30-2005, 09:23 AM
What about WR's? Peter Warrick and Peerless Price have been cut. Anyone interested? Watts is having trouble holding on to passes, Rice is old, everyone else is unproven. What say you guys?

DBroncos4life
08-30-2005, 09:25 AM
What about WR's? Peter Warrick and Peerless Price have been cut. Anyone interested? Watts is having trouble holding on to passes, Rice is old, everyone else is unproven. What say you guys?


Price was cut? Get on that. Warrick would be a good pick up as well because he is pretty good at SP teams.

Dr. Broncenstein
08-30-2005, 09:57 AM
I'd be interested in Warrick at the vet minimum....

Gimme Cobbs....

clint7
08-30-2005, 10:11 AM
Price was cut?

BroncoInferno
08-30-2005, 10:26 AM
Good points Mock. I'm going to expect an entire NFL Live segment on how stupid Bellichek is for wasting the 113 overall pick.