'Liberals upset that Bush is healthy"

[Ratboy]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/08/24/opinion/garver/main793133.shtml

(CBS) President Bush passed his recent physical with flying colors — and I mean "flying." He's 59 years old, but does not need cholesterol-lowering or blood pressure drugs. He eats healthy foods, and has lost 8 pounds since December. And the most amazing revelation is that his resting pulse is 47 beats per minute. That's not the kind of pulse rate usually associated with people in high-stress jobs or situations. It's the kind of pulse that well-trained athletes have.

To put it in perspective, the average pulse rate for a healthy male is about 72 beats per minute. (Unofficially, the average pulse rate for a writer on a deadline is 102). President Bush's remarkable 47 is down from an also exceptional 52 beats per minute in December. Obviously, I'm thrilled that he's in such good health. But I have to admit that part of me would feel more comfortable if his pulse were just a little bit higher.

I wouldn't want a president whose heart rate went off the charts every time there was a crisis in the world. But it would be nice if there were some indication that President Bush, like the rest of us, had some physical reactions to world events. History is filled with world leaders who grew old before their time, especially when their countries waged war. We can read about leaders who were unable to sleep, incapable of eating properly, and could never take their minds off the killing that was going on. I don't wish that on President Bush, but he seems to be on the extreme opposite end of the spectrum.

People have continued to die every day in Iraq, and his pulse hasn't gone up a beat. In fact, it's dropped five points since December.

Terrorists strike London, but his pulse is still a 47.

Opposition to the war, even from members of his own party, is at an all-time high this summer. He's still at 47.

Gas prices soar, and his pulse is still a 47.

The grieving mother of a young man killed in battle, Cindy Sheehan, wants to meet with the president a second time. He's still at 47.

She camps out near his ranch. 47.

People point out that to diffuse the situation, all he'd have to do is cut one of his bike rides short by twenty minutes and meet with her. He refuses. 47.

(CBS) I'm not suggesting that he doesn't care. Everybody reacts to tragic events differently. It's just surprising that he doesn't seem to have the kind of physical reactions that most people have to these events. My pulse goes up when I watch the news on TV. He actually is the news, but his pulse stays low.

So, the question is whether being in such good shape and having a low pulse is an advantage for a world leader. In ancient times, when the heads of countries would actually fight each other, being in great physical shape was an obvious advantage. Today, we could still probably shout to various foreigners, "My president can beat up your president," but it wouldn't mean very much. These days, world leaders don't put on armor and fight. They send others to do the fighting. So, while they're home and others are fighting, how important is it for them to ride mountain bikes and remain so calm?

Some might say that calmness should lead to rational behavior and decisions. I can see that point. Others might say that it's only when you get upset and are affected in your heart and gut by world events that you'll be motivated to take some action. I can see that point, too.

So, let me just reiterate that I'm very happy that President Bush is in such great health. But ironically, ever since I've learned that his pulse has gone down over the past few months, mine's gone up.

[Ratboy]

rofl

[Bronco_Beerslug]

It's official, he's a tree stump!

EDIT: ooops, I forgot to provide a link for my statement.

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"I try to go for longer runs, but it's tough around here at the White House on the outdoor track. It's sad that I can't run longer. It's one of the saddest things about the presidency." —interview with "Runners World," Aug. 2002

"I promise you I will listen to what has been said here, even though I wasn't here." —at the President's Economic Forum in Waco, Texas, Aug. 13, 2002

"You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test.'' —Townsend, Tenn., Feb. 21, 2001

"Tribal sovereignty means that; it's sovereign. I mean, you're a — you've been given sovereignty, and you're viewed as a sovereign entity. And therefore the relationship between the federal government and tribes is one between sovereign entities." —Washington, D.C., Aug. 6, 2004 (Watch video)

"I glance at the headlines just to kind of get a flavor for what's moving. I rarely read the stories, and get briefed by people who are probably read the news themselves." —Washington, D.C., Sept. 21, 2003

"I couldn't imagine somebody like Osama bin Laden understanding the joy of Hanukkah." —at a White House menorah lighting ceremony, Washington, D.C., Dec. 10, 2001

"It is white." —after being asked by a child in Britain what the White House was like, July 19, 2001

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." —Washington, D.C., March 13, 2002

“We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories … And we'll find more weapons as time goes on. But for those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them." —Washington, D.C., May 30, 2003

"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." —Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002 (Watch video)

"My answer is bring them on." —on Iraqi insurgents attacking U.S. forces, Washington, D.C., July 3, 2003

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." —Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004 (Watch video)
http://tinyurl.com/a35tp

[Hogan11]

He's in great shape because he works out and follows a weight trainers diet.

I can't stand the guy at all, but I seen his workout regiment in Muscle And Fitness magazine and it is quite impressive for someone of his age....I'll give him that much.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Given the record number of days this worthless, never-worked-an-honest-day-in-his-life punk has spent on vacation, he ought to be healthy.

[Ratboy]

Given the record number of days this worthless, never-worked-an-honest-day-in-his-life punk has spent on vacation, he ought to be healthy.

Can you honestly say you've done more than any President?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Can you honestly say you've done more than any President?

:stupid:

Can you honestly explain how this is relevant to the subject at hand?

Hint: I do not hold any public office.

[Ratboy]

:stupid:

Can you honestly explain how this is relevant to the subject at hand?

Hint: I do not hold any public office.

Take the real hint, You're most likely a hyporcrite.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Take the real hint, You're most likely a hyporcrite.

You're most likely a moron.

[Rigs11]

He's the devil, of course he's healthy. :P

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

He spends almost every day working out or playing while his grownup handlers take care of "bidness."

Who wouldn't be healthy under such circumstances?

[DBruleU]

Given the record number of days this worthless, never-worked-an-honest-day-in-his-life punk has spent on vacation, he ought to be healthy.

Howard Dean is on these boards?

[Spider]

Howard Dean is on these boards?
LOL you fúcking hypocrit ....... you just defended not fighting in Iraq cause of the importence of an Education , Howard Dean is a doctor , and that takes alot of education ....... Hilarious!

[Rohirrim]

Unfortunately for Dubya, once again, he only got half of the famous, Franklin maxim right - the part about the healthy body. What he forgot was the other half - the healthy mind.

[DBruleU]

LOL you fúcking hypocrit ....... you just defended not fighting in Iraq cause of the importence of an Education , Howard Dean is a doctor , and that takes alot of education ....... Hilarious!

Hypocrit? How does my statement seem as though Im a hypocrit. Who cares if hes a doctor. One is not measured by their degree, if that were the case, degreeless Mr. Bill Gates would be worthless.

[Spider]

Hypocrit? How does my statement seem as though Im a hypocrit. Who cares if hes a doctor. One is not measured by their degree, if that were the case, degreeless Mr. Bill Gates would be worthless.
So then you quit school and go to Iraq and fight ........ after all now you are saying a Degree doesnt make a man .... so go on Iraq is calling you . you support the war , support it for real , not just lip service ..... go on . your country needs you ..stay the course .. all that good stuff

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Unfortunately for Dubya, once again, he only got half of the famous, Franklin maxim right - the part about the healthy body. What he forgot was the other half - the healthy mind.

:D

Isn't that the truth?

[MistrSynistr]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/08/24/opinion/garver/main793133.shtml

(CBS) President Bush passed his recent physical with flying colors — and I mean "flying." He's 59 years old, but does not need cholesterol-lowering or blood pressure drugs. He eats healthy foods, and has lost 8 pounds since December. And the most amazing revelation is that his resting pulse is 47 beats per minute. That's not the kind of pulse rate usually associated with people in high-stress jobs or situations. It's the kind of pulse that well-trained athletes have.

To put it in perspective, the average pulse rate for a healthy male is about 72 beats per minute. (Unofficially, the average pulse rate for a writer on a deadline is 102). President Bush's remarkable 47 is down from an also exceptional 52 beats per minute in December. Obviously, I'm thrilled that he's in such good health. But I have to admit that part of me would feel more comfortable if his pulse were just a little bit higher.

I wouldn't want a president whose heart rate went off the charts every time there was a crisis in the world. But it would be nice if there were some indication that President Bush, like the rest of us, had some physical reactions to world events. History is filled with world leaders who grew old before their time, especially when their countries waged war. We can read about leaders who were unable to sleep, incapable of eating properly, and could never take their minds off the killing that was going on. I don't wish that on President Bush, but he seems to be on the extreme opposite end of the spectrum.

People have continued to die every day in Iraq, and his pulse hasn't gone up a beat. In fact, it's dropped five points since December.

Terrorists strike London, but his pulse is still a 47.

Opposition to the war, even from members of his own party, is at an all-time high this summer. He's still at 47.

Gas prices soar, and his pulse is still a 47.

The grieving mother of a young man killed in battle, Cindy Sheehan, wants to meet with the president a second time. He's still at 47.

She camps out near his ranch. 47.

People point out that to diffuse the situation, all he'd have to do is cut one of his bike rides short by twenty minutes and meet with her. He refuses. 47.

(CBS) I'm not suggesting that he doesn't care. Everybody reacts to tragic events differently. It's just surprising that he doesn't seem to have the kind of physical reactions that most people have to these events. My pulse goes up when I watch the news on TV. He actually is the news, but his pulse stays low.

So, the question is whether being in such good shape and having a low pulse is an advantage for a world leader. In ancient times, when the heads of countries would actually fight each other, being in great physical shape was an obvious advantage. Today, we could still probably shout to various foreigners, "My president can beat up your president," but it wouldn't mean very much. These days, world leaders don't put on armor and fight. They send others to do the fighting. So, while they're home and others are fighting, how important is it for them to ride mountain bikes and remain so calm?

Some might say that calmness should lead to rational behavior and decisions. I can see that point. Others might say that it's only when you get upset and are affected in your heart and gut by world events that you'll be motivated to take some action. I can see that point, too.

So, let me just reiterate that I'm very happy that President Bush is in such great health. But ironically, ever since I've learned that his pulse has gone down over the past few months, mine's gone up.


He. Is. A. Sociopath.

Look up Psychologist interpretations of him on the web.

It's not hard to understand this man cares about he and he only. Through his thought process and speech patterns, to "bring it on", to any other blurb you've heard from him.

Bush Isn't A Moron, He's A Cunning Sociopath


by Bev Conover, Online Journal Editor And Publisher, December 5, 2002


If any of us are to have a future worth having, the world's leaders, the members of Congress, the US corporate media and people of all political persuasions who value freedom and democracy had better start seeing George W. Bush for what he is: a sociopath and a passive serial killer.

Psychiatrists tell us that all serial killers lack the emotions that make us human; that they have to learn to emulate those emotions in order to get by in society. Hence, a charming, well educated fellow like Ted Bundy who is known to have murdered 15 women and may have killed 36 before he was caught.

While Bush is no Bundy, when it comes Bundy's education and acquired charm, and to our knowledge has never personally murdered anyone, it has been evident to us that there is something missing in George W. in terms of his lack of compassion and empathy. As governor of Texas, he set a record in signing death warrants-154 in five years. He even made fun of the way convicted killer Karla Faye Tucker begged for her life.

If we believe the psychiatrists, a sign of a future serial killer is a child who delights in torturing and killing animals. George W., as a child, did exactly that. In a May 21, 2000, New York Times' puff piece about the values Bush gained growing up in Midland, Texas, Nicholas D. Kristof quoted Bush's childhood friend Terry Throckmorton: "'We were terrible to animals,' recalled Mr. Throckmorton, laughing. A dip behind the Bush home turned into a small lake after a good rain, and thousands of frogs would come out. 'Everybody would get BB guns and shoot them,' Mr. Throckmorton said. 'Or we'd put firecrackers in the frogs and throw them and blow them up.'"

On Sept. 12, 2000, Baltimore Sun reporter Miriam Miedzian wrote, "So when he was a kid, George W. enjoyed putting firecrackers into frogs, throwing them in the air, and then watching them blow up. Should this be cause for alarm? How relevant is a man's childhood behavior to what he is like as an adult? And in this case, to what he would be like as president of the United States."

[bendog]

Those bike rides on his ranch must be working.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Bush and Exercise and the Dry Drunk, Addictive Personality

This old 2002 Article (http://www.counterpunch.org/wormer1011.html)got me to thinking about Bush's obsession with exercise. Maureen Dowd (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/24/opinion/24dowd.html?incamp=article_popular_1) revealed yesterday that he takes his bike with him everywhere and he is reported to exercise for 2 hours per day. For someone who is at least the titular President of the United States that seems peculiarly excessive, one might say compulsive.

I began to wonder if this incessant bike riding is just a substitute for drinking...a part of the old "dry drunk syndrome" described in the above link...Of course, the above link refers to other, more lethal topics, such as war and peace, but still, I can't help but wonder if we're seeing his mental illness in full flower right before our eyes and don't recognize what we're looking at.

Juan Cole explains how this addictive personality is doing us all harm: (http://www.juancole.com/2004/08/bushs-superficial-wounds-in-vietnam.html)

"...The history of alcoholism and possibly other drug use is a key issue because it not only speaks to Bush's character as an addictive personality, but may tell us something about his erratic and alarming actions as president. His explosive temper probably provoked the disastrous siege of Fallujah last spring, killing 600 Iraqis, most of them women and children, in revenge for the deaths of 4 civilian mercenaries, one of them a South African. (Newsweek reported that Bush commanded his cabinet, "Let heads roll!") That temper is only one problem. Bush has a sadistic streak. He clearly enjoyed, as governor, watching executions. His delight in killing people became a campaign issue in 2000 when he seemed, in one debate, to enjoy the prospect of executing wrong-doers a little too much. He has clearly gone on enjoying killing people on a large scale in Iraq. Drug abuse can affect the ability of the person to feel deep emotions like empathy. Two decades of pickling his nervous system in various highly toxic substances have left Bush damaged goods. Even for those who later abstain, "visual-spatial abilities, abstraction, problem solving, and short-term memory, are the slowest to recover." That he managed to get on the wagon (though with that pretzel incident, you wonder how firmly) is laudable. But he suffers the severe effects of the aftermath, and we are all suffering along with him now, since he is the most powerful man in the world..."

[enjolras]

Bush's commitment to fitness and a fairly healthy lifestyle are absolutely admirable. Its one of the things about him that I really do like.. the guy leads a lifestyle that is very condusive to being healthy well into old age.

The article is just dumb.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Bush's commitment to fitness and a fairly healthy lifestyle are absolutely admirable. Its one of the things about him that I really do like.. the guy leads a lifestyle that is very condusive to being healthy well into old age.

The article is just dumb.

It's not dumb at all.

A commitment to fitness is admirable and healthy, but, just like everything else, exercise habits can become obsessive/compulsive.

Bush is an untreated alcoholic, and alcoholism is a compulsive disorder.

[Crushaholic]

but, just like everything else, exercise habits can become obsessive/compulsive.

Trying to prove that Bush is an unelected liar time and time again 5 years after he took office is obsessive/compulsive. Stop it...for your own good... ;)

[enjolras]

It's not dumb at all.

A commitment to fitness is admirable and healthy, but, just like everything else, exercise habits can become obsessive/compulsive.

Bush is an untreated alcoholic, and alcoholism is a compulsive disorder.

You seriously need to re-examine some things. You may disagree with the mans policies (which I largely do) or you may discount his problem solving abilities, but why does that have to turn into all out hatred for the man himself? By all accounts he's a relatively good guy.. trying to turn something really positive (which his health and fitness is) into a negative is nothing more than a personal attack.

Politics has become all about making everyone hate the other guy... until we as a people stop participating in that stupidity nothing is ever going to get better. That goes for those who toss out personal attacks on Bush on one side, and those who gleefully sling mud at a grieving mothers like Sheehan on the other. Democracy simply doesn't work without civility..we'll be a much better country when people remember that.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Trying to prove that Bush is an unelected liar time and time again 5 years after he took office is obsessive/compulsive. Stop it...for your own good... ;)

This from a guy who has spent those same five years trying to obfuscate and cover up Bush's awful record?

Too much!

:laugh:

[Broncoskicka]

What record?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

You seriously need to re-examine some things. You may disagree with the mans policies (which I largely do) or you may discount his problem solving abilities, but why does that have to turn into all out hatred for the man himself?

I'm somewhat surprised to see you employing the same sort of reasoning as many of Bush's hardcore supporters.

That is, you're confusing the much-needed denunciation of the man's overt destructiveness, criminality, and life-damaging abuses of power with simple personal hatred.

I expected more from you.

BTW, I've said before that Bush would probably be a fun guy to know if he occupied some station in life that was commensurate with his actual merits and God-given talents, e.g., parking attendant, WalMart greeter, McDonald's employee, etc.

By all accounts he's a relatively good guy..

???

You've gotta be f_cking kidding me.

By all whose accounts?

Anyone who knows even the basic outline of Bush's bio knows the man is a textbook sociopath with so much blood on his hands it's almost unthinkable.

His entire life has been an exercise in abusing the power and position he was born into.

The list of his frauds and felonies is miles long.

If his last name wasn't "Bush" he would have been wearing an orange jumpsuit a long time ago.

[Crushaholic]

This from a guy who has spent those same five years trying to obfuscate and cover up Bush's awful record?

Too much!

:laugh:

It's not me starting threads. I just feel the need to defend the president when necessary...

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Bush's commitment to fitness and a fairly healthy lifestyle are absolutely admirable. Its one of the things about him that I really do like.. the guy leads a lifestyle that is very condusive to being healthy well into old age.

The article is just dumb.

Pretty easy to commit to a healthy lifestyle, riding $4000 mountain bikes, living on 1600 acre ranches to ride your bikes, having the means to buy any health foods you want, being able to afford a team of doctors and trainers to monitor and guide your activities and being able to buy any other health related paraphernalia you desire.

Try doing those things without all those resources. That would be something that is "absolutely admirable"!

By all accounts he's a relatively good guy..


That has to be one of the most ignorant remarks I've seen in a LONG time!!!
At least before the newest Bush cheerleaders showed up after registration was opened up again.

His own dad said if the public new what the Bush's were really about the public would lynch them.