Clarett is HISTORY!

[BroncoBuff]

He's gone, people. Sandy Clough is usually right, and he said on FSRM that Clarett has pissed off Shanahan . . . we all know what happens when you cross MIKE! Besides, where are they gonna put all these tailbacks?? Mike Anderson is probably only listed #1 now as trade bait (just like last year). But even if he's traded - there is BELL, DAYNE, GRIFFITH.

Hey, who's gonna make the team at D-Line - and predictions?

I'm guessing these guys are history:
MONSANTO, RAYLEE, MARIO, ANTON

Whadd'ya y'all think?

[JAPS]

Good. so long MoC

[KillerBronco#76]

how did he piss off shanahan?

[Hogan11]

Clarett isn't going anywhere......the merch dept. would stand to lose too much http://den.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/p1983954reg.jpg

Now, if that jersey happens to go on sale quickly....all bets are off Ha!

Q's is going for 30 smacks now....not a good sign....Ha!

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Yeah, Sandy nailed it when he said that the Avs weren't going to let both Foote and Forsberg get away.

[Dagmar]

And who's this Griffith fellow?

[watermock]

Shanahan probably realized what everyone else knew...he's a quitter. It was worth a shot if he's truly gone. I would be surprised if he wouldn't be in the last cuts tho.

[Ratboy]

I'll call bull**** on this one. No way Mike Shanahan lets his 3rd round pick get cut the first year.

[SoCalBronco]

I hope this isnt true.

[KillerBronco#76]

I'll call bull**** on this one. No way Mike Shanahan lets his 3rd round pick get cut the first year.

Yea he knew he was drafting a project why would he give up on him now

[maven]

Sandy Clough is usually right, and he said on FSRM that Clarett has pissed off Shanahan


thwack

[BroncoBuff]

Hey, I'm replying to MYSELF here - - yeah, you guys make good points. I think Clarett's injury was lingering just a BIT too long. I'll defend Clough on the AVs deal - WHO WOULD'VE EVR THOUGHT THE PREVIOUSLY SMART LACROIX WOULD TURN INTO A MORON IN THE LAST 30 DAYS?! HAVE YOU BEEN WATCHING THAT IDIOT? He used to be smart. And by the way, Quentin's injury is rumored to be FAR more serious than people know. Got that from B. Williamson of the Post in a repsonse to my e-mail . . . He's gone, people. Sandy Clough is usually right, and he said on FSRM that Clarett has pissed off Shanahan . . . we all know what happens when you cross MIKE! Besides, where are they gonna put all these tailbacks?? Mike Anderson is probably only listed #1 now as trade bait (just like last year). But even if he's traded - there is BELL, DAYNE, GRIFFITH.

Hey, who's gonna make the team at D-Line - and predictions?

I'm guessing these guys are history:
MONSANTO, RAYLEE, MARIO, ANTON

Whadd'ya y'all think?

[Bronco9798]

WoW, I got my reply box back....

[BroncoBuff]

HOPE NO LONGER, HERCULES! The ice is cooling as we speak!!!Yeah, Sandy nailed it when he said that the Avs weren't going to let both Foote and Forsberg get away.

[BroncoBuff]

Hey, is that Milan Hedjuk? Yeah, Sandy nailed it when he said that the Avs weren't going to let both Foote and Forsberg get away.

[KillerBronco#76]

B. Williamson is shown much love and admiration on this board as youll find out.

[SouthStndJunkie]

If Clarett gets cut, he gets cut. It will be his fault if he does. The funny thing is he could have been leaving Denver with about $400,000 in his pocket, but he turned down a normal contract. If he gets cut, he gets nothing.

SSJ

[Hercules Rockefeller]

I'll defend Clough on the AVs deal - WHO WOULD'VE EVR THOUGHT THE PREVIOUSLY SMART LACROIX WOULD TURN INTO A MORON IN THE LAST 30 DAYS?! HAVE YOU BEEN WATCHING THAT IDIOT?

That's the point, Sandy made a guess without doing any research. Being the station that broadcasts the Avs games on the radio, he should have sources (or someone like Moser should) that should have informed him about where the Avs stood with regards to the cap. He didn't, and he made an ass of himself by simply throwing out what he was the most likely scenario from his past experience, and proceeded to run down any caller who voiced a different opinion. I highly doubt Sandy has sources on the Broncos if he can't get **** from the Avs. He's throwing something up against the wall to see if it sticks, and he'll take credit for it until the end of time if Clarett is cut.

[ludo21]

I dont find this true. I really dont want MoC on the team if players dont like him, but if he can bring something in for us a little later in the year i say keep him. Shanny has a lot of pride so booting him would be a player he picked put personally would be a shock to me.

[TheDave]

Honestly at this point i wish he would get cut just so we could all stop talking about our 5th string running back.

[KillerBronco#76]

If shanahan gave any clue he was pissed a MoC no dought ESPN would be all over it because thats just the type of news their waiting for

[BroncoBuff]

Thanks. He's been very nice returning 3 or 4 e-mails I've sent him since he rolled in from Minnesota! HEY! Not that there's anything wrong with this - SERIOUSLY NOT! - but I think Shefter is gay. WHen he did the Bronco Mailbag, he always said, "oh, I've been too busy covering the NFL to get married," yadda-yadda-yadda. C'mon, Adam. It's the 21st century - YOU ARE A TALENTED GUY! B. Williamson is shown much love and admiration on this board as youll find out.

[Play2win]

He's gone, people. Sandy Clough is usually right, and he said on FSRM that Clarett has pissed off Shanahan . . .
When has Sandy Clough nailed anything, except for his foot squarely in the back of his mouth?!?

[SoCalBronco]

broncobuff, killerbronco was being sarcastic when he said Burger Bill Williamson is treated with love and admiration on this board. He might respond to emails but he isnt a very good writer.

Regarding Clarett, I supported that pick, although Freak and myself wanted him in the 6th. Nonetheless, at the end of the third we both felt the upside far outweighed the risk. If Maurice still hasnt grown up, than its really a shame. I will be the first to admit I was totally wrong if he truly has been cut. I really thought given a chance in this offense, with our coaches, he would be a first class kind of guy. Even if he hasnt been cut it doesnt seem like he has endeared himself to the coaches or his teammates lately based on some comments in the papers and from Mediator and Khan's reports. He needs to be sat down and yelled at and scared ****less into form if thats the case. This is disappointing to me.

[whatsgolden]

Where was all the media speculation about Leseur & Dorsett Davis the last two years? You'd find an article here or there about them, but never this much press. Geez, it was a conditional draft pick at the end of the third round, what do people expect?

It could have been a mistake, it could have been a brilliant move. The bottom line is, nobody knows yet, because the guys first training camp just ended. If he's a turd, we cut him down the road. We took Clarett on potential, which is pretty much all you can ask out of a third rounder. Maybe we could start writing articles about how the 49ers wasted a third round pick on a RB with two major knee injuries (Gore).

Once the regular season starts, we'll start to see actual NFL news, like scores and stats.

Who gives a **** if a third round pick doesn't earn everyone's respect in his first training camp.

[Tredici]

That's the point, Sandy made a guess without doing any research. Being the station that broadcasts the Avs games on the radio, he should have sources (or someone like Moser should) that should have informed him about where the Avs stood with regards to the cap. He didn't, and he made an ass of himself by simply throwing out what he was the most likely scenario from his past experience, and proceeded to run down any caller who voiced a different opinion. I highly doubt Sandy has sources on the Broncos if he can't get **** from the Avs. He's throwing something up against the wall to see if it sticks, and he'll take credit for it until the end of time if Clarett is cut.

I'll tell you what the way all the 950 personalities treated the Avs during the NHL timeout was deplorable. It was rare hockey even got a mention. As soon as they announce being back on the ice it's all "FLAGSHIP STATION FOR THE AVALANCHE". Totally laughable - if not hipocritacal. It was obvious none of them had a clue, and just as obvious none of them cared. As popular as hockey is along the front range I was shocked and disappointed in their lack of even mentioning the sport. They all fell right in with bashing hockey regardless of the fact their listening audience didn't fall close into the apathetic state they delighted in talking about. I found it nearly bizarre and totally out of touch with their listening audience. But now that Moser is getting a paycheck again I suppose it will be hunky dory Av reporting.

[Rulon Velvet Jones]

You guys are talking like you believe this **********.

[SoCalBronco]

Maybe we could start writing articles about how the 49ers wasted a third round pick on a RB with two major knee injuries (Gore).
.

Yeah they sure wasted it. Gore's only been the most impressive back on the whole team over the summer till a minor shoulder injury kept him out of the first preseason game.

Try again. :hitself:

[Bronco LB 59]

Regarding Clarett, I supported that pick, although Freak and myself wanted him in the 6th.

SoCal

Don't forget about me! I am a big Clarett homer, too. He's my starting RB on Madden!

[SoCalBronco]

SoCal

Don't forget about me! I am a big Clarett homer, too. He's my starting RB on Madden!

I hope he gives us reasons to continue to homer him. I just dont like the vibe I have been getting from mediator, khan and now from this report (although it does seem kinda bogus). Come on Big Mo, gotta get it in gear now.

[Dagmar]

This thread is kinda confusing... Avs? I thought i'd crashed the wrong board for a minute...

MoC will play some against the Colts probably...

[Tredici]

This thread is kinda confusing... Avs? I thought i'd crashed the wrong board for a minute...

MoC will play some against the Colts probably...

Sorry Dagmar. Some of us have a serious hockey jones goin on...

[Dagmar]

Don't worry about it mate, I plan on it being my number 3 sport after my beloved Broncos and Glasgow Rangers (soccer).

I plan on bugging everyone around about Hockey rules and the Avs when the season starts! (when is that by the way?)

As for soccer, urgh, up at 5am to watch the internet broadcast of Rangers Vs Celtic... a BIG deal in Scotland.
Freakin' time change...

Such craziness...

[eddie mac]

Anyone else heard this Clark fools show? I'd be a little hesitant in believing a newbie especially when his story smells of bullsh@t!

[BroncoBuff]

DAGMAR - sorry - Griffin. Man, I stared at that for 5 minutes wondering what you meant.

"Alas, how soon we forget " #22 is Dominique Foxworth now! Hey, shut up about Q! I gotta rewind this Ron Dayne run.

Mr. Q - used to be the "next in a long line" . . . now he's just "next" for a pink slip!

Is it just me, or does Dayne look a little like TD? I always think Priest Holmes looks alot like a shorter version of TD, too

[BroncoBuff]

Hey Trev - I'm normally hip to that "in-house bull****," but Clough was on the FSRM Insider yesterday, and he REALLY dissed the Avs ticket office for lying about renewal rates, etc... he might be a shill on 950, but he's the "regular Sandy" on FSRM.

HEY" Is it just me, or is that ****ing Lacroix showing the early signs of alzheimers or dementia the last month? What happened to him?!?! He's screwing the pooch over and over and over and over

[BroncoBuff]

When has Sandy Clough nailed anything, except for his foot squarely in the back of his mouth?!?

Speaking of "not nailing" . . . who's that in your avatar photo ? ? ?

GO GOAT!!

Darius will have his day

[BroncoBuff]

HEY SO-CAL - I used to live in Arcadia! Corner of Live Oak and Loganrita (way south) Anyway, I did NOTdetect the sarcasm, but I do know B-Will is no Shakespeare. He wrote a crazy, indecipherable sentence in yesterday's "CAMP NOTES." I just like he e-mailed me back, I guess. Plus, I gave he and Saunders the idea for that "Pipeline to the Pros" article a year ago - on the WEALTH of talent on the field for the '94 CU-Michigan "hail mary" game. He was very complimentary to me, and well, I guess I just melted for the big lug! Truthfully, that game deserves its own post. I'm gonna do it now. SNEAK PEAK - Did you know that the tall, rail thin linebacker for Michigan in that game - wearing #8 - was . . . TREVOR PRYCE?! It's true! broncobuff, killerbronco was being sarcastic when he said Burger Bill Williamson is treated with love and admiration on this board. He might respond to emails but he isnt a very good writer.

Regarding Clarett, I supported that pick, although Freak and myself wanted him in the 6th. Nonetheless, at the end of the third we both felt the upside far outweighed the risk. If Maurice still hasnt grown up, than its really a shame. I will be the first to admit I was totally wrong if he truly has been cut. I really thought given a chance in this offense, with our coaches, he would be a first class kind of guy. Even if he hasnt been cut it doesnt seem like he has endeared himself to the coaches or his teammates lately based on some comments in the papers and from Mediator and Khan's reports. He needs to be sat down and yelled at and scared ****less into form if thats the case. This is disappointing to me.

[-Slap-]

Mo seems to lack a certain mental toughness.

[SoCalBronco]

HEY SO-CAL - I used to live in Arcadia! Corner of Live Oak and Loganrita (way south) Anyway, I did NOTdetect the sarcasm, but I do know B-Will is no Shakespeare. He wrote a crazy, indecipherable sentence in yesterday's "CAMP NOTES." I just like he e-mailed me back, I guess. Plus, I gave he and Saunders the idea for that "Pipeline to the Pros" article a year ago - on the WEALTH of talent on the field for the '94 CU-Michigan "hail mary" game. He was very complimentary to me, and well, I guess I just melted for the big lug! Truthfully, that game deserves its own post. I'm gonna do it now. SNEAK PEAK - Did you know that the tall, rail thin linebacker for Michigan in that game - wearing #8 - was . . . TREVOR PRYCE?! It's true!

Well I gotta give props to a former Arcadian. Rep and welcome to the board and yes Trevor did go to Michigan before transferring to Clemson.

[watermock]

Mo seems to lack a certain mental toughness.

Understatement of the year. :giggle:

[ludo21]

Understatement of the year. :giggle:


I gotta agree on mock with this one. :hitself:

[24champ]

Understatement of the year. :giggle:

ditto

[NFLBRONCO]

If they cut him they cut him we move on. The thing I keep wondering is why take him in 3rd round when he hasn't played in two years. Then expect him to come in and be solid in preseason and make the team. I don't see how the Broncos expected him football ready this season I think we all figured it would take awhile.

[Maximus]

What a waste of a pick!

[DivineLegion]

I dont see where the hype on Clarett is coming from, what he had one good year in college ball??? So what we have a hiesman winning RB on our team and he hasent done **** in the NFL! So what makes Clarett different? Atleast Dayne is a team player from what I know, cant say much for Clarett...What do we get from developing him for three years? We would have been better off keeping Portis and hopeing to develope a new young Corner! I realy think that we could have invested our pick somwhere more benificial to the team.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Clarett isn't going anywhere yet. And Pierre did what had to be done with the salary cap restrictions in place (except for signing May).

What happened, did we open up the board again or something?

[JCMElway]

I do, however, think that he'll be put on the PUP or on IR with something like a groin or sports hernia. Then he'll have his shot next year.

And what if we did cut him? Which teams out there would be needy enough at RB to take on a guy who has been mentioned in the same breath as Ricky Williams and T.O. as a locker room cancer? And without the onfield production to back him up.

If he got cut I honestly think there might be a chance that no one would touch him. Wait a minute, there's always the personnel genius -- Jerry Jones... :giggle:

[sirhcyennek81]

Clarrett still on the roster? then he is not gone, now is he.

[DB-Freak]

So where is the indication that MoC pissed off Shanny?

That article that was posted not while ago?

[Raidersbane]

Don't worry about it mate, I plan on it being my number 3 sport after my beloved Broncos and Glasgow Rangers (soccer).

I plan on bugging everyone around about Hockey rules and the Avs when the season starts! (when is that by the way?)

As for soccer, urgh, up at 5am to watch the internet broadcast of Rangers Vs Celtic... a BIG deal in Scotland.
Freakin' time change...

Such craziness...

Up the Bears and down the Hoops......

[watermock]

If anyone watched tape from Clarett in 2002 it's hard not to salivate. Most disturbing is it seems that he hasn't made too many friends on the team or coaching staff. Bobby Turner can't save his all by himself. Clarett needs to save his own ass. He's not going to get a better opportunity than here. Great coaches, Great running scheme.

[wabbit]

I attended Shanahan's press conference the last day of camp...rather, after the last day of camp, when quite a few questions were asked about Clarett.

His reply was nebulous; 'needs to play to have a chance, and he has to practice to be eligible to play'...that kind of thing.

My guess is there are only a few organizations stupid enough to claim him off waivers in the final cut...meaning he would have to be placed on their 53 man roster...but, invariably, there ARE a few...we'll see.

Otherwise, I'm guessing he's either IR'd or returned to the team for development on the practice squad.

At this stage, I really can't see any way he could make the 53 man roster, but then, I felt the same way about Patrick Hape last year...even though I like the guy personally.

[DB-Freak]

I attended Shanahan's press conference the last day of camp...rather, after the last day of camp, when quite a few questions were asked about Clarett.

His reply was nebulous; 'needs to play to have a chance, and he has to practice to be eligible to play'...that kind of thing.

My guess is there are only a few organizations stupid enough to claim him off waivers in the final cut...meaning he would have to be placed on their 53 man roster...but, invariably, there ARE a few...we'll see.

Otherwise, I'm guessing he's either IR'd or returned to the team for development on the practice squad.

At this stage, I really can't see any way he could make the 53 man roster, but then, I felt the same way about Patrick Hape last year...even though I like the guy personally.

According to Khan, if he hadnt been hurt, I really think he could have made the cut.

Now he is going to have to wow a lot of people.

[ludo21]

Thanks for the info wabbit. I agree, that he has to wow us all in these ipcoming games, if he plays that is....

[Hogan11]

Thanks for the info wabbit. I agree, that he has to wow us all in these ipcoming games, if he plays that is....

I still think he's lost too much time....he'll never make it past Dayne now barring a major collaspe from him (sorry all you Ron haters).

I'm guessing he aggervates the groin and goes the IR route.

[Raider Bill]

It was all part of the plan... to piss away a 3rd on a guy noone wanted.

[watermock]

It was all part of the plan... to piss away a 3rd on a guy noone wanted.

Parcells said he would of taken him early in round 4. I feel like the caveman in the Gieco commercial. "Maybe you should of done some research first...No thank you, I don't have much of an appetite."

[Odysseus]

The press is killing this kid. It's like whacking a baby seal. It's too easy.

You have to admire his integrity to allow everyone and everything to take a shot at him and still stand firm. I think it's wonderful that he wants defy gravity but if he doesn't focus any of his energy in going upward then he's going to nose dive straight into the pavement regardless of his intentions.

Shannahan didn't make a mistake picking this kid. All things being equal I am glad that he was willing to take a shot. He served his purpose. The media circus wasn't around the lack of marquee running backs, Jerry Rice, or what candy Plummer gave out during Halloween. He fed the sharks what they wanted, made a statement for the league, (and possibly to the league) and in the end didn't like anyone in the 4th round that was worthwhile. It wasn't a pick he could have traded. It was comp pick.

If Maurice flames I'm fine with it. It was a high risk and high reward pick. I am just bitterly disappointed that all the fight this guy has and he won't put any of it on the field.

He'll probably end up playing for the Raiders.

[DBroncos4life]

I had a couple of beers and guess what, Im still tired of the Clarett talk. I feel for the kid but he was drafted 101 not number 1. Enough is enough. Granted its not his fault but can't the media move on???

[Atlas]

You guys amaze me. There is no link or any other evidence for this thread but yet you jump all over it. Pardon me if I wait to pass judgement until I see something in print. All of you are way too easily influenced.

[Drek]

I still think he's lost too much time....he'll never make it past Dayne now barring a major collaspe from him (sorry all you Ron haters).

I'm guessing he aggervates the groin and goes the IR route.Ron Dayne looked decent against the Texan's 3rd stringers in one pre-season game, he's FAR from a lock to stay on the roster, especially when he hasn't been real impressive in camp recently by all reports.

Outside of Anderson and Bell our other three HBs need to play themselves onto the roster over the next three pre-season games, there isn't a guaranteed spot for any of them, and there isn't even a guaranteed number of spots, if they're all unimpressive it wouldn't surprise me to see Shanahan only keep 3 HBs on the roster, letting only one of them make it. You gotta be significantly better than a bum we can put on the PS to make the 53 man, I wouldn't say that any of Dayne, Q, or Clarett have proven that beyond a reasonable doubt.

Of course this is a stupid thread, speculating on some dumb rumor that Clarett is in the dog house. Lets wait and see, k?

[Tombstone RJ]

Yeah, Sandy nailed it when he said that the Avs weren't going to let both Foote and Forsberg get away.

Yep, and Sandy was sooo right when he claimed that Detroit would never draft Darko Milicic with the second overall pick of the NBA draft.

Guess what Sandy, wrong again.

[watermock]

Dayne has a much better chance of making the team than Q, Clarett or

[Dagmar]

Up the Bears and down the Hoops......

Dunno about the bears part, but down the hoops!

2-0, 10 minutes left (ten minutes till I can go back to sweet bed...5 am loyal...)

[NaptownChief]

Parcells said he would of taken him early in round 4.


Parcells has also told the world how he is absolutely done coaching....about 3 or 4 times.

[watermock]

Parcells has also told the world how he is absolutely done coaching....about 3 or 4 times.

That is totally different. Name one time I have really bashed Vermiel. He's a find coach, he just should of addresed the D sooner when the window was open. Personally, I think Parcells is a giant prick that walks with his dick hanging out and hadn't done anything since Billichick left. I think he had an excellent draft. He is a fine coach, but he is a total asshole.

[Play2win]

Just a question. What is so different between MoC and Q's rookie training camp. Not all this hyperbole press stuff, but what matters, the real football and performance stuff. What really is the difference?

[Bronco9798]

Just a question. What is so different between MoC and Q's rookie training camp. Not all this hyperbole press stuff, but what matters, the real football and performance stuff. What really is the difference?

The amount of time in between college and actually playing football. Clarett was not in condition to come in and compete right away. Anyone expecting anything out of Clarett this year was dreaming, and still are.

You could tell by his combine appearance that his conditioning was far from being ready for football at this level. Learning the speed of the NFL is one thing coming out of college, but when you sit for almost 3 three years and haven't touched a football, it's probably a lot worse.

Expectations were set to high for him by some fans and I think they are realizing the truth now, as Clarett is.

[minibronco]

I think this is BS. No way this is happening.

[Bronco9798]

I think this is BS. No way this is happening.

There's always a way.

[PatsWin2002]

Found this article this AM .....I quoted the most significant last few paragraphs. Follow the link to read the whole thing.

The title would lead you to believe Clarret is toast, but I don't think anything is official.....read on.


Posted on Sat, Aug. 20, 2005
Bernie Lincicome


Experiment failed, but what did you expect from Clarett?

http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgazette/sports/12433953.htm

At what point do the Broncos give up on Clarett the football player? If he never takes a handoff in anger, has the whole thing been a waste? If one word describes the career of Clarett, it is waste. Denver would become just another twist-tie on the bag.

Pro football is littered with familiar failures, names as notable in their time as Clarett is today, and higher draft choices, too. Rashaan Salaam comes to mind, he and his Heisman. And Rick Mirer, the coach killer. And Ryan Leaf, hoo boy.

Brian Bosworth and Tony Mandarich and Cade McNown and Deltha O’Neal, the club is huge. Ki-Jana Carter, Art Schlichter, Curtis Enis. Maybe they can all get together and shake Clarett’s hand as he gets off the bus home.

Surely, Shanahan cannot be concerned that bad timing can mean that Clarett will never be a Bronco, even a preseason Bronco, and that whatever it was that seemed worth the bother could flourish elsewhere.

Whatever happens to Clarett is, as it always has been, up to Clarett. Imagining that there is another soft landing somewhere if it does not work out here is very bad for the risumi, though Clarett’s history this way is habitual.

There has always been another chance. And this will not be the last one.

I figure Clarett gets, two, maybe three more before he becomes a faded footnote. Or a Canadian Football League running back. Not that there’s a difference.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Lincicome is crap, about the only columnist in town who is worse than Kizla because he's the Rocky's attempt at finding their "Kizla"-columnist.

[DB-Freak]

All these articles are crap period.

[Jason in LA]

How can the Clarett pick be lumped in with those other picks? Most of those picks were top 5 in the draft, and all of them were first round picks. All in the first half of the first round. Clarett was an end of the 3rd round pick, which was the Broncos 3rd pick in that round, and a pick given to the Broncos for free.

[TexanBob]

Personally, I think Shanny IRs him rather than admit he made a mistake. Blame his hammy. Next year, he gets quietly cut. BTW, whatever happened to last year's IR project, Brandon Miree? I thought he had potential.

[Moon§hiner]

I never thought for a moment that MC was going to contribute this year when he was drafted...he's a project and with this nagging injury it allows Denver to possibly send him to IR instead of exposing him wavers while trying to get him to the practice squad. ..It's not like we are breaking the bank if we keep him around for another season.

[DB-Freak]

I never thought for a moment that MC was going to contribute this year when he was drafted...he's a project and with this nagging injury it allows Denver to possibly send him to IR instead of exposing him wavers while trying to get him to the practice squad. ..It's not like we are breaking the bank if we keep him around for another season.
He gets like nothing.

I mean like chump change.

I'm pretty positive the staff knew and knows more about MoC condition than us.

[Rock Chalk]

Honestly at this point i wish he would get cut just so we could all stop talking about our 5th string running back.
Exactly.

[Raidersbane]

Dunno about the bears part, but down the hoops!

2-0, 10 minutes left (ten minutes till I can go back to sweet bed...5 am loyal...)

I frequent Ranger forum on line known as The Bear Pit. Super game today by the way.

[Northman]

broncobuff, killerbronco was being sarcastic when he said Burger Bill Williamson is treated with love and admiration on this board. He might respond to emails but he isnt a very good writer.

Regarding Clarett, I supported that pick, although Freak and myself wanted him in the 6th. Nonetheless, at the end of the third we both felt the upside far outweighed the risk. If Maurice still hasnt grown up, than its really a shame. I will be the first to admit I was totally wrong if he truly has been cut. I really thought given a chance in this offense, with our coaches, he would be a first class kind of guy. Even if he hasnt been cut it doesnt seem like he has endeared himself to the coaches or his teammates lately based on some comments in the papers and from Mediator and Khan's reports. He needs to be sat down and yelled at and scared ****less into form if thats the case. This is disappointing to me.



Not that this is really related in real life but Clarett already has 2100 yds rushing on Madden 06 for me with 3 games to go. now, if he could do this in real time i might change my mind about him. lol

[TDmvp]

and the winner of lameass thread of the week goes to .... may i have the envelope pls .....

[maven]

and the winner of lameass thread of the week goes to .... may i have the envelope pls .....

There will be more of these threads in the future. :hitself: MoC is not going anywhere.

[orange 4 life]

He's gone, people. Sandy Clough is usually right, and he said on FSRM that Clarett has pissed off Shanahan . . . we all know what happens when you cross MIKE! Besides, where are they gonna put all these tailbacks?? Mike Anderson is probably only listed #1 now as trade bait (just like last year). But even if he's traded - there is BELL, DAYNE, GRIFFITH.

Hey, who's gonna make the team at D-Line - and predictions?

I'm guessing these guys are history:
MONSANTO, RAYLEE, MARIO, ANTON

Whadd'ya y'all think?

i think clarett may be gone as well.
i think theres no WAY he plays this year, but there's still the chance of IR.

i also think sandy clough is the NUMBER ONE biggest idiot ive ever heard on radio IN MY ENTIRE LIFE.

there is literally no one i dislike even HALF as much as that ignorant arrogant piece of pond scum.

jake

[Bronco_Beerslug]

i think clarett may be gone as well.
i think theres no WAY he plays this year, but there's still the chance of IR.

i also think sandy clough is the NUMBER ONE biggest idiot ive ever heard on radio IN MY ENTIRE LIFE.

there is literally no one i dislike even HALF as much as that ignorant arrogant piece of pond scum.

jake
His voice nauseates me so I can't listen to him at all or risk becoming physically ill.

[Play2win]

i think clarett may be gone as well.
i think theres no WAY he plays this year, but there's still the chance of IR.

i also think sandy clough is the NUMBER ONE biggest idiot ive ever heard on radio IN MY ENTIRE LIFE.

there is literally no one i dislike even HALF as much as that ignorant arrogant piece of pond scum.

jake

C'mon Jake, tell us how you REALY feel. ;D

[DBroncos4life]

If he makes the roster with only playing in 3 practices I will be sick. PS or nothing.

[Perry1977]

...is very bad for the risumi...

Yeah, gotta consider it gold when it comes from a writer who spells "resume" as "risumi". Uhh

[-Slap-]

If he makes the roster with only playing in 3 practices I will be sick. PS or nothing.
I agree. That's all he knows, though. People have always bent over backwards and made allowances for Mo.

[TheDave]

i also think sandy clough is the NUMBER ONE biggest idiot ive ever heard on radio IN MY ENTIRE LIFE.

there is literally no one i dislike even HALF as much as that ignorant arrogant piece of pond scum.

jake

JMO... He's not half as bad as Joe Williams

[Crushaholic]

Turner likes Clarett. That's all I need to know. Shanahan will find a way to keep him on the team until he gets back into football shape.

[TheReverend]

He gets like nothing.

I mean like chump change.

I'm pretty positive the staff knew and knows more about MoC condition than us.

He'll be around. Its his first couple weeks back in football... cant blame him for having some rough patches. By halfway through the season itll be old MoC tearing it up when given the opportunity.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

JMO... He's not half as bad as Joe Williams

Well when you have ever changing standards of what's a believable observation and your schtick is to bag on the local teams to get callers, it's kind of hard to be liked.

[TexanBob]

Isn't a Sandy Clough something they use to dredge dead bodies out of the river?

[listopencil]

Why would they cut him at this point? There's no need. Put him on IR for the groin, let him follow a strength and conditioning regimen and then allocate him to NFLE to get him warmed up for next year's training camp. No big deal. They didn't draft him to put the 2005 Broncos over the top or anything, they took a chance and there's still plenty of time to get a reward for it.

[DB-Freak]

I agree. That's all he knows, though. People have always bent over backwards and made allowances for Mo.
Umm....yea that's why he was able to enter the nfl draft underaged.

Not.

[listopencil]

Not that this is really related in real life but Clarett already has 2100 yds rushing on Madden 06 for me with 3 games to go. now, if he could do this in real time i might change my mind about him. lol


I had two 1,000+ yards games out of Tatum Bell in my first season on ESPN NFL2K5. He ended up with over 10,000 yards. My first season that I actually saved, anyway.

[-Slap-]

Umm....yea that's why he was able to enter the nfl draft underaged.

Not.
Awwwwww.......:(

[TheReverend]

I had two 1,000+ yards games out of Tatum Bell in my first season on ESPN NFL2K5. He ended up with over 10,000 yards. My first season that I actually saved, anyway.

WOW! CONGRATULATIONS! :woowoo: :woowoo: :woowoo:

[TheReverend]

Sarcasm, by the way.

[listopencil]

Maybe I should go ahead and take it off of "Rookie" now.

[DB-Freak]

Awwwwww.......:(
Yes it's indeed a sad story.

It's also sad what you said was untrue, too.

[-Slap-]

Yes it's indeed a sad story.

It's also sad what you said was untrue, too.
Hope he doesn't wind up on IR with hurt feelings.

[DB-Freak]

Hope he doesn't wind up on IR with hurt feelings.
Definitely not, it would be rather traumatic.

[-Slap-]

Definitely not, it would be rather traumatic.
It will be traumatic when he looks up one day and realizes what he wasted.

[Odysseus]

It will be traumatic when he looks up one day and realizes what he wasted.

He thinks he's doing the right thing and that he's this moral high ground hero guarding the caviar when he doesn't realize he's serving himself up like so much cheap lunch meat.

[Lestat]

i highly doubt he's history, Shanny was upset that his injury didn't get better while they were in Houston but the trainer makes the decisions & if he says MoC can't go then he couldnt go

IMO MoC is IR or makes roster, i doubt he will get waived cause even the way the contract is structured he'll never make it through waivers to be put on the PS

[FADERPROOF]

broncobuff, killerbronco was being sarcastic when he said Burger Bill Williamson is treated with love and admiration on this board. He might respond to emails but he isnt a very good writer.

Regarding Clarett, I supported that pick, although Freak and myself wanted him in the 6th. Nonetheless, at the end of the third we both felt the upside far outweighed the risk. If Maurice still hasnt grown up, than its really a shame. I will be the first to admit I was totally wrong if he truly has been cut. I really thought given a chance in this offense, with our coaches, he would be a first class kind of guy. Even if he hasnt been cut it doesnt seem like he has endeared himself to the coaches or his teammates lately based on some comments in the papers and from Mediator and Khan's reports. He needs to be sat down and yelled at and scared ****less into form if thats the case. This is disappointing to me.

Ha, you would've gladly taken him in round 1 had we kept our pick.

[Dr. Broncenstein]

My money is on MoC going to the injured reserve....

I personally don't give a **** what happens to him, because he was a total waste of a high pick. Just think... we could have drafted another DB.

[DBroncos4life]

My money is on MoC going to the injured reserve....

I personally don't give a **** what happens to him, because he was a total waste of a high pick. Just think... we could have drafted another DB.


Perkins was still on the board :)

[-Slap-]

Best available guard over 310 pounds would have been my choice.

[Odysseus]

Best available guard over 310 pounds would have been my choice.

You called it early. I guess for me that is hindsight.

Stupid being over seas $&%*! :moody:

[FADERPROOF]

What will make this pick even worse is when a 2nd day RB busts out and becomes a household name and top RB in the league, while Clarett either sits on IR or gets cut.

[-Slap-]

You called it early. I guess for me that is hindsight.

Stupid being over seas $&%*! :moody:
Don't take it so hard, QT. Life experience beats internet kvetching hands down.

[anthonypacino]

Clarett may turn into a bust but I think until a confetation happens between him and Shanny (Bowens) he will be here at least a year. Clarett has potentional, remember he hasn't played in two years, a person can be in shape but not game shape, it is two different things, Shanny has had a lot of busts (Nash, Middlebrooks) and he was has to much pride to concede defeat so early, those guys didn't produce and hung around for a few years, Clarett's contract is very team friendly by being mostly incentive, he will not clear waivers if put on the practice squad so they will have to either IR him or place him on the roster, he might even not dress during the season, isn't it a 53 man roster but only 48 dress for the game? I am an OSU fan but I'm not being a homer about this either.

[maven]

Best available guard over 310 pounds would have been my choice.

As the preseason goes on, it looks like the pick would've been better spent on OL depth.

[Atlas]

I'm going to withhold judgement until I see him play. There still are two preseason games left. I'm anxious to see what he has to offer. I remember him at Ohio State and he was a tank.

[Raider Bill]

Parcells said he would of taken him early in round 4. ."



You missed the part about Parcells wanting to use him like Jim Burt.

[Dr. Broncenstein]

Well.... my official stance has been the same since pre-draft... F-ck MoC and the horse he rode in on....

[Bronco9798]

Well.... my official stance has been the same since pre-draft... F-ck MoC and the horse he rode in on....

I agree with you. Hated the pick from day 1 and still do. Project Maurice = Failure!!!!

[Dagmar]

Still a newb, probably be slaughtered for my 2 cents here, but I hope the lad is a success for the Broncos, because any success for the Broncos is, a success for the Broncos! He's no TO as far as I can see, maybe immature but hopely the lad will learn that every player has to earn the right to wear that jersey and if he has the talent, he will. As they say, if he can't make it in Denver, he sure isn't going to make it anywhere else. If he realises this may be his only shot, he may buck up his ideas. If he fails, he may only have to blame himself, but I hope he turns out to be a belter of a signing.

This is an actual question, nothing defending him or being accusatory, but why did he sign the deal he did if he could have had guaranteed money?
Publicity?
Ego?
Genuinely wanting to prove himself?
I dunno, remember if you reply, just pat me on the head and say "oh, poor naive infant Football fan..."

[Hulamau]

If Clarett can suddenly discover some character and play nice, hard and well the next two games, he may stick around if Q-ball winds up on IR again, which is possible if his knee is still too gimpy for a full season. Or, we could IR both of them and go with the three good guys we have now which works for me.

I'm not too worried with the running game after last night, particularly as the O-line continues to gel.

My one prayer now is that Jake's knee coorperates. I dont like all the stories about that coming out now, making it an even more juicy target for opposing blitzers.

BVP may well round out to be the second coming, but I'd like him to have another year of development first, or at least after the bye if Jake cant make it the whole season.

I think BVP will really learn quickly and will be much more effective with the full first team behind him, should Plummer take a fall, but the longer we can postpone that the better.

BVP nedsas muc hexpreicne the next two games as we can give him and a lot of practice on teh shrot passes and screens these next 3 weeks to develope some touch on those. His longer passes are really good for the most part.

[listopencil]

I would love to see Clarett replace Q on the roster. We would have MA, Bell/Dayne, Clarett at HB. I could certainly live with that.

[bilrob]

My take on the D line. Five DEs, Brown, Pryce, Elenberger, Ekuban and Palepoi. Five DTs, Warren, Myers, Davis, Pope and Fatafehi. Total of 10 this year.

[Atlas]

My take on the D line. Five DEs, Brown, Pryce, Elenberger, Ekuban and Palepoi. Five DTs, Warren, Myers, Davis, Pope and Fatafehi. Total of 10 this year.

Cut Fatefehi off that list. I think Shanny will keep 3 Kickers and 6 WRs

[Crushaholic]

Still a newb, probably be slaughtered for my 2 cents here, but I hope the lad is a success for the Broncos, because any success for the Broncos is, a success for the Broncos! He's no TO as far as I can see, maybe immature but hopely the lad will learn that every player has to earn the right to wear that jersey and if he has the talent, he will. As they say, if he can't make it in Denver, he sure isn't going to make it anywhere else. If he realises this may be his only shot, he may buck up his ideas. If he fails, he may only have to blame himself, but I hope he turns out to be a belter of a signing.

That's been my thinking all along. He's had a rocky past and I'm not giving him a pass for that, but Denver is heaven for RBs. If he can't (or won't) make it here, he has no future in the NFL.

[Cito Pelon]

Still a newb, probably be slaughtered for my 2 cents here, but I hope the lad is a success for the Broncos, because any success for the Broncos is, a success for the Broncos! He's no TO as far as I can see, maybe immature but hopely the lad will learn that every player has to earn the right to wear that jersey and if he has the talent, he will. As they say, if he can't make it in Denver, he sure isn't going to make it anywhere else. If he realises this may be his only shot, he may buck up his ideas. If he fails, he may only have to blame himself, but I hope he turns out to be a belter of a signing.

This is an actual question, nothing defending him or being accusatory, but why did he sign the deal he did if he could have had guaranteed money?
Publicity?
Ego?
Genuinely wanting to prove himself?
I dunno, remember if you reply, just pat me on the head and say "oh, poor naive infant Football fan..."

Who knows what's going on between Clarett's ears? Speculating, he's a very high-maintenance player. He's not a pro. No offense, but I'd be happy to see him out of a Bronco uniform. Christ, how long do you baby the kid along? He gets yelled at for missing assignments, next thing you see is him nursing a questionable injury so he won't get yelled at anymore.

I haven't been all that interested in the kid, but apparently there's some dynamics between Bobby Turner and Clarett. Bobby Turner was looking at some other coaching opportunities, Clarett has a personal bond with Turner, I don't know what's going on there. If Bobby Turner loves the kid, I guess it's not a big deal to put him on the PS for a year. The organization does owe some debts to Bobby Turner. If Turner is calling in a debt, that's ok with me.

[anthonypacino]

people keep questioning his personal problems, but you must remember, this kid has played four years of high school ball and one year of college, now he is in the NFL, this isn't like that movie Rookie of the Year, this kid has alot of growing up still to do maturity off the field and on. just learning the playbook has to be more than anything before, college has limits on practice time just like High School, NFL isn't like that, He is in an entirely new world, just like every other rookie except they have at least 3 or four years in college to prepare. Think about things in your life, getting married, having children you might have not been ready but you were better prepared at 25 yrs than at 16 right? We gotta remain open about this, let him progress see how it turns out, if he busts he busts not the first not the last, but if a season or two gets this kid ready to live up to his potentional than it will be worth it.

[Odysseus]

Don't take it so hard, QT. Life experience beats internet kvetching hands down.

Recently I have lost a couple of friends over here. One guy died like a hero but it will never make the news. He saved the lives of his workers doing a job, much like mine, that isn't important but on so many levels it is. He could have turned his back, ran and be here today but he did what was right.

Thomas Herrion died on my birthday. He was a really nice guy who joked around quite a bit. As a guard he could have been on our team. He died in Denver something that I hope to do someday.

What is going on in the middle of Africa right now doesn't make the press but it's desperately worst than anything we or anyone else is doing in Iraq.

I miss kvetching, cold beer, hot sex, and normal living but you are right. It's all good when you are living life like it matters.

[Odysseus]

I miss kvetching, cold beer, hot sex, and normal living but you are right. It's all good when you are living life like it matters.

Sorry guys! I am turning off the computer, stepping away from the keyboard, and hitting some of the guys up for a game of Madden. I suck at Madden!