Khan and Mediator: Camp Report 8/17

[Kaylore]

So there was a power outage around 5 am this morning which of course re-set my alarm clock. I awok up quite refreshed at 8:40 which is when camp starts. I live close and was able to run out the door, but I missed the first thirty minutes. Fortunately for all of you Mediator 12 was on the scene and had excellent possition to see all the different looks. They ran a lot different formations and I was in a real crappy spot this morning. I did get a good look at goal-line attacks and offensive lineman today.

It was quite fun to hook up afterwards and compare notes, and between the two of us we should have a nice report for you. Mediator had stuff to do, but he'll be on to post later.

Lets get started-

I found out who the new O-lineman is. Zach Wilson is some new guy we signed. O-line help. He's wearing 69 - PJ Alexander's number.

Lynch, Rice, Bailey, Warren and Lepsis were all on the field. They looked ok.

We ran a lot of different formations today, especially on the Defense. The offense featured some of the toss-sweep plays, especially to Tatum, that we know and love. 3-3-5 featured Warren at nose tackle with Cukwurak and Pryce on the ends and then DJ, Wilson, and Gold (the normal trio) the primary backers. I'll let Mediator12 explain more on the different packages and whatnot.

I'll start with the passing game (Receivers, Corners)

[Rascal]

did this get lost or something?

[Kaylore]

Mediator said he heard Shanahan pleased with the D today but I found the O stepping it up in number of places. However our Nickle looks really soild. I heard Bob Slowik ( who is a very short man and reminds me of Shanahan) pacing the defensive backs (who were literaly five feet from me lined up) shouting "They can't beat our nickle!" And he was right.

Lelie had some nice catches and still looks really comfortable out there. They run a lot of line breaks and quick cuts to fake out the defenders. The only time I saw him get covered really well was when Bailey and sometimes Walls was on him. On one play, Foxworth swatted down a pretty nice pass to Lelie. It was nice because Lelie had it but Dominique attacked the ball in the air, which I wanted to see more off.

Brandon Browner had a pick. It came off of, that's right, Danny Kannell. He makes stupid reads and stupid throws. Mediator thinks he's gone, something I would be thrilled to see. They hardly even play him anymore.

Browner looks good but he doesn't get a lot of reps propably because he's still learning the playbook. He's behind all the other defenders because of when he was allowed to report to camp. He is a big man though. Not just tall but thick-solid. A very nice safety specimen.

Darrent Williams looks at the ball too much. He's just a little too agressive. He got beat on a fade route by Luke cutting to the endzone and it was because Luke cut back when Darrent had his eyes on the QB and by the time he spun around Luke was gone. Darrent still hits like a safety. His center of gravity is lower and so his ballance is good. Just real agressive.

Foxworth looked good. There were a couple plays where he got beat a little but he's nice about recovering. They had Foxworth on the second team with Paymah as the other corner. Foxworth plays heads up and is still my favorite of the three.

Paymah looked better today. His man coverage is actually pretty good when he gets possition. His problem is he doesn't close on the ball. Mediator started explaining what his problem actually is but we got interrupted and he never finished. I'll let him cover Paymah better.

Rod Smith and rice are solid. They don't have break away speed anymore, but all their routes are perfect and they catch the ball when its thrown. Rice had some nice catches and a picture perfect sideline jaunt on a quick throw out wide.

It's hard to tell who's playing safety and who's playing nickle anymore. Presumably they are mixing it up a lot. Sometimes the "safety" drops back into a cover 2 or three possition and sometimes he mans up. All our coverage looked really good.

Next QB's and TE's

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

You da man Khan

[Rascal]

Cut kanell and give the spot to somebody who gives a damn.

[BroncoInferno]

What about Med's report that Watts is back at #3? How'd he look? Thanks for the reports! :thumbsup:

[Kaylore]

Putz had some nice catches, but according to Med (I couldn't see) his blocking is still sup par. Stephen Alexander made some fantastic catches but he also had some drops. I'm assuming that he is the "complete package" at TE because he's the starter right now splitting time with Jeb when they go two TE sets.

Leach made some terrific leaping grabs. He had one where he went up and knocked the ball to him self. If there was one possition they had trouble covering it was the Tight ends.

Jake looked better today. He had fewer batted balls and more completions. I didn't get a great look but I didn't see any interceptions.

Van Pelt seems locked in at that second slot but Mauk is making a move. He's had two days where he's made some nice plays and seems to be showing decent progress.

Next: Blocking and rushing, The Lines Clash!

[Kaylore]

What about Med's report that Watts is back at #3? How'd he look? Thanks for the reports! :thumbsup:
I can't believe I forgot Watts! He made several nice catches today, some for big yardage, and looked great. One thing to consider is he played on the second and first team today. He was the third slot guy on the first team, but on the second he's the primary so he actually gets more playing time when plays on the second team. It all might just be a way to give him as many reps as possible in addition to the motivational purposes. I'm thinking that he'll come out like Lelie and have a decent game this weekend.

[Bronco LB 59]

How did Nate Jackson do this morning?

[broncosteven]

So there was a power outage around 5 am this morning which of course re-set my alarm clock. I awok up quite refreshed at 8:40 which is when camp starts.

NO MORE BVP Excuses! You are late if you are not there 15 minutes before camp starts! We need our KHAN!

[ludo21]

Man i was about to leave the house, but im definitely staying a little longer for these reports, thanks khan and med!! what a freaking Duo!!!!

[Rohirrim]

One thing about Williams, Foxworth and Paymah; there's no substitute for speed. Am I the same guy who was throwing **** at my TV on draft day???
:dunk:
Thanks, Khan.

[philiptr2]

Khan. The power went out at my place too, but i missed an hour and a half of work and walked in late on a pretty important meeting. If my bosses get mad enough, I could be joining you for tomorrows practice.

At least I'm getting my camp report.....Thanks Kahn

[broncosteven]

3-3-5 featured Warren at nose tackle with Cukwurak and Pryce on the ends and then DJ, Wilson, and Gold (the normal trio) the primary backers. I'll let Mediator12 explain more on the different packages and whatnot.



This is the Formation I think they can do damage with this year. I am glad Cukwurak (or what ever it is spelt) is in on this formation. With some coaching they can use him in this formation to blitz & get pressure. He has potential to be a great Sack artist if they can get him in fast from good angles & different positions (olb & ends)! I hope he worked on wrapping up in his tackles over camp.

[ludo21]

One thing about Williams, Foxworth and Paymah; there's no substitute for speed. Am I the same guy who was throwing **** at my TV on draft day???
:dunk:
Thanks, Khan.



sometimes its good to be wrong?? :juggle:

[Rascal]

Paymah looked better today. His man coverage is actually pretty good when he gets possition. His problem is he doesn't close on the ball. Mediator started explaining what his problem actually is but we got interrupted and he never finished. I'll let him cover Paymah better.

If I had to guess it would be because his hips weren't square or he is standing too tall.

[ludo21]

This is the Formation I think they can do damage with this year. I am glad Cukwurak (or what ever it is spelt) is in on this formation. With some coaching they can use him in this formation to blitz & get pressure. He has potential to be a great Sack artist if they can get him in fast from good angles & different positions (olb & ends)! I hope he worked on wrapping up in his tackles over camp.



hey khan are we talking about nworkie???? or chuckurah (chucky)??? which one?? or am i missing someone??

[Kaylore]

The O and D-line. I got a great look at most of them.

Nalen looked decent today. He does a good job of keeping the man in front of him. He "gives a little more than I'd like in pass, but he was one of the best at making the defender fight through him rather than bounce around. He doesn't get mush push off in the run game. Mediator believes this is because our D-line is playing very well, but I have concerns especially considering we were soft there last season and didn't play great against the Texans. We'll see this week.

Chukie Nworkie looked servicable. He put a nice move to force a couple guys to hold by breaking to the outside. Not spectacular but not bad.

Dwayne Carswell has the bes mobility of the guys and is playing guard right now. He still has trouble keeping the guy in front of him, but he did a nice job forcing the attacker around the perimiter of the pocket rather than giving ground. Sometimes the guy will get him moving one way, though, and then cut inside and beat him. He's on the second team.

Engleberger is so quick. He put a sick move on Anthony Clement that left him with nothing. He attacks seemingly sporadically and at different points and angles forcing the lineman to have to alter his body possitioning to compensate for the attack and leaving him vulnerable to another possition. Big slow lineman that use raw strength are going have a hard time with him.

Aaron hunt got pushed around to the outside on a pass play and that's all I saw.

Zach Wilson put a nice move shutting down Anton Palepoi in a rushing attack. He just had lower leverage and momentum played into his favor.

Ben Hamilton. Well Wabbit was right. This guy is money. He plays sharp. He's not the strongest, per se. Hwever his technique is really sound. He seems comfortable and gets great push on runs. He is good about keeping his man in front of him during passing attacks and yields little ground. When he does yield its in a direction away from the passer so he keeps a fair amount of space open for the passer.

Raylee Johnson didn't see much time, but in drills I saw put this sweet spin move on Chris Watton and came through untouched. It was like a spin and then he was in.

Marco Coleman - He had a rough day. Coming in to stop the run, the full back got the angle on him and opened just enough room to isolate him from making the tackle. I couldn't see how his pass rush was.

Trevor Pryce - He was on the field a lot and so hidden by the O-line. I did see Foster cave in to him very quickly and he was able to collapse his side fairly consistantly. Our Quarterbacks were good about not caving into the constant preassure but I don't know how they'll look at game time.

Myers and Warren - Myers broke through clean on one run play for a nice tackle (again worried about that interior line) Between Warren and Myers they command certain blocking assignments and just seem to wear down the interior linemen. No one ever gets good push against them and they seem to stick to their gap assignments well because we hardly had any room for the backs going up the middle.

Ebenezer Ekuban - He looked solid was good about moving around blocks on the run plays specifically. couldn't see him really in the passing attack.

Didn't see: Lepsis, Carlisle, Foster, and the rest.

[Kaylore]

hey khan are we talking about nworkie???? or chuckurah (chucky)??? which one?? or am i missing someone??
Chukwurah, 54 The linebacker. He was playing end in the 3-3-5.

[Rascal]

"Ben Hamilton. Well Wabbit was right. This guy is money. He plays sharp. He's not the strongest, per se. Hwever his technique is really sound. He seems comfortable and gets great push on runs. He is good about keeping his man in front of him during passing attacks and yields little ground. When he does yield its in a direction away from the passer so he keeps a fair amount of space open for the passer."

Told you guys.

[ludo21]

"Ben Hamilton. Well Wabbit was right. This guy is money. He plays sharp. He's not the strongest, per se. Hwever his technique is really sound. He seems comfortable and gets great push on runs. He is good about keeping his man in front of him during passing attacks and yields little ground. When he does yield its in a direction away from the passer so he keeps a fair amount of space open for the passer."

Told you guys.

Fine you win, we have a stud Olineman, sorrrry...

[broncosteven]

Chukwurah, 54 The linebacker. He was playing end in the 3-3-5.

Did he get good pressure? i think this guy is a diamond in the rough.

[Hotrod]

Fine you win, we have a stud Olineman, sorrrry...

Sometimes its good to be wrong ;D

[Kaylore]

Rushing attack looked so-so from where I was . As I stated earlier they were having toruble getting and keeping cut-back lanes open.

Q- He had some decent runs and worked a few reps on the first team. He doesn't need as big a hole to ge through and the defenders have toruble seeing him because he's so small. If there isn't room, though, he is likely to get swallowed up for a loss. If our line was younger I would reccomend one of these style backs but we need someone who will help make their own holes.

Tatum - I liked Tatum today. He is quietly chugging along. The toss play looked good with him and he found some room to run. We were craking our 3-5 yrd runs, which isn't great but better than 0-2. He has the best quickness. He also caught some balls which is always nice. I have to remind myself that this is his first full pre-season practicing so we need to fine tune him.

Anderson - Anderson looked good, but I'm beginning to see where Tatum could have the edge. Not enough speed to the outside and not an enormous amount of burst. He can truck through and still catches the ball out of the back field the best, but...I don't know.

Dayne. He looked ho-hum today. Got tackled a great deal and generally shut down. Speed to the outside? Um, what's that? Not a terrible amount of work and I couldn't see him half the time.

Other Notes:
It may have been DJ that got yelled at yesterday. Both DJ and BJ play special teams. They all deserved it no matter who it actually was.

Fred update: I've been friendly with Fred on a recomendation from Mock and its paying dividends. He sort of helped me locate Mediator and has been generally cordial with me. Mediator was hilarious because right after I spoke with Fred and met up with him he says "What are you doing Kaylore? You know better than to talk to Fred!" The term "Turf Nazi" has been gaining popularity of late amongst the fan base by the way.

There you go guys - Med will finish things off.

[Kaylore]

Did he get good pressure? i think this guy is a diamond in the rough.
I couldn't see. Ask Med.

[Rascal]

Tatum will be used outside the 10's and Anderson will be used on short yardage and goal line.

[maven]

Good Read!

[ludo21]

Tatum will be used outside the 10's and Anderson will be used on short yardage and goal line.


thats what it looks like, altho tatum has that little stutter step that makes him elusive inside as well. WE will just have to see how things play out the rest of the preseason.

Khan, it sounds as tho Luke (according to med) is higher than Devoe on the depth chart, if so, have u just not seen him, or does he just make quiet catches and not Devoes flashy big gains.

[Hotrod]

Tatum will be used outside the 10's and Anderson will be used on short yardage and goal line.

Thats the problem with Anderson. Does anyone remember what happened to Droughns last year. Everyone stacked the middle of the field knowing he would not beat them around the end. Tater needs to step up.

[Traveler]

thats what it looks like, altho tatum has that little stutter step that makes him elusive inside as well. WE will just have to see how things play out the rest of the preseason.

Khan, it sounds as tho Luke (according to med) is higher than Devoe on the depth chart, if so, have u just not seen him, or does he just make quiet catches and not Devoes flashy big gains.


Good question! I've not heard alot about Luke and plenty about Devoe. Judging by the amount of big plays by Devoe, you'd think he'd be a lock to make the team right now. If he doesn't make the squad, it's a travesty!

[BRONCCRUSHFAN]

Ben Hamilton. Well Wabbit was right. This guy is money. He plays sharp. He's not the strongest, per se. Hwever his technique is really sound. He seems comfortable and gets great push on runs. He is good about keeping his man in front of him during passing attacks and yields little ground. When he does yield its in a direction away from the passer so he keeps a fair amount of space open for the passer.

That's my boy!!! :thumbsup:

[Kaylore]

thats what it looks like, altho tatum has that little stutter step that makes him elusive inside as well. WE will just have to see how things play out the rest of the preseason.

Khan, it sounds as tho Luke (according to med) is higher than Devoe on the depth chart, if so, have u just not seen him, or does he just make quiet catches and not Devoes flashy big gains.
Probably the later. Med is hi on Luke. I've been more impressed with Adams than Luke personally. I like that Devoe makes the big play, which is something this team needs. I read somewhere that Devoe has the most drops of all the receivers. The thing is when he does make plays they are big plays so that overshadows some of his failings.

[Hotrod]

Am I missing something here? After one big play by Devoe (missed tackle really) everyone thinks hes a shoe in for the team???

[Rascal]

Yeah you must have missed the articles that have mentioned him. He has been mentioned in several articles about performing well and impressing people.

[ludo21]

Am I missing something here? After one big play by Devoe (missed tackle really) everyone thinks hes a shoe in for the team???


Not just that one play i go off of, most of khans reports have Devoe making at least 2 plays in each day.


BTW thanks khan, just different preferences and perspectives i suppose. I too like Devoe and what he brings to the table, the ability to YAC is what we missed a lot last year. Hopefully we keep the better one tho, im just gald i dont have to choose and boot one on the curb myself.

[Kaylore]

Not just that one play i go off of, most of khans reports have Devoe making at least 2 plays in each day.


BTW thanks khan, just different preferences and perspectives i suppose. I too like Devoe and what he brings to the table, the ability to YAC is what we missed a lot last year. Hopefully we keep the better one tho, im just gald i dont have to choose and boot one on the curb myself.
It will be tough this year.

[Old Dude]

...
Leach made some terrific leaping grabs. He had one where he went up and knocked the ball to him self. If there was one possition they had trouble covering it was the Tight ends.
...


This is starting to sound like a broken record. Is Leach really looking that good every day?

[Kaylore]

This is starting to sound like a broken record. Is Leach really looking that good every day?
When they play him, yes. Its against third and second string guys though and Med said his blocking isn't anything super amazing. He still has great hands though and has been used ahead of Hape on the second team.

Also, Nate Jackson is nursing a sore hammy, so keep that in mind.

[SoCalBronco]

Thanks Khan and Med, great stuff.

[Ninjafied]

What the...
"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Kaylore again."
Is there no justice in this world?

[bendog]

Thats the problem with Anderson. Does anyone remember what happened to Droughns last year. Everyone stacked the middle of the field knowing he would not beat them around the end. Tater needs to step up.
I remember that a year of Rod, the crew that subbed for EMac and Kennisonbitch, SOB, and MA caused shanny to pick Lelie and Sonic to get some speed out there.

[ludo21]

What the...
"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Kaylore again."
Is there no justice in this world?


I just gave other ppl in this thread rep then finally i gave some more to khan lol, its an evil scheme but helps us all in the end.

[Mediator12]

The 3-3-5 caused mucho problems for the OL as the down linemen and LB's were rotating all along the front. On the first play Warren lined up outside, Chukwurah outside and TP inside. They ran a stunt with all the linemen and blitzed ferguson resulting in jake throwing it away from IMMEDIATE pressure. He threw the ball off his back foot TWENTY FEET over everyone!

The next play they substituted Ekuban for DJ williams and Let Trevor "stand UP" He knocked Rice in the slot and almost KILLED him! Then the pass went right beside the Wideou and Darrent almost got a pick.

The Next Play Jake kept more protection but still had to dump the Ball off to the TE Putzier underneath for a minimal Gain.

The ran the foramtion with the first team nickel to a success three more times in a row with Incompletions.

[Kaylore]

Hey Med, how did they play the nickle in those formations?

[JCMElway]

Two sets of eyes at camp? This is fantastic! Thanks Med, keep it comin'!

[Mediator12]

The Defense in the Red zone segment ran alot Of Zone dogs with Palepoi, Pryce, Ekuban, and Engleberger dropping into Coverage. There was a ton of pressure from AL and Ian through the whole first team. However, the second team was more impressive in the nickel than I thought they would be. DJ was running with the second team Nickel and also got great pressure from the zone blitzes. Lesueur jumped two passes and almost had a pick on Plummer at the 4 that would have been a TD. Foxworth and Paymah were solid on the outside and neither allowed a catch in ten plays.

Overall, the pass defense flat out dominated the WR's all day save for the Great move by Watts for the long TD and another great move and catch by Triandos Luke both given up on Double moves against Darrent Williams.

[Mediator12]

Hey Med, how did they play the nickle in those formations?

They really played guys all over the front seven like NE does. Never the same guys rushing from the same spot or covering the same zone. The offense really did not pick it up at all and after practice Shanahan was specifically complimenting the "D" for the performance.

[Mediator12]

I'll be back in a minute fellas with more. Children are a little restless!

[Kaylore]

I'll be back in a minute fellas with more. Children are a little restless!
When you return, finish what you were telling me about Paymah.

[Mediator12]

Paymah is still struggling with his zone drops in the NFL. He struggled the first week reading the zones at all from what I heard. On one play, Karl was two steps too close to the LOS and Jake threw a PERFECT pass just over his hands to Rod For a fifteen yd out. If Karl had dropped two more yds he would have at least deflected the pass if not gotten a INT.

His press coverage is easily the best of the three young CB's. He allows no seperation with the WR. One of the reasons his name is not mentioned is that no one threw at his WR in man on man. That included Watts, Lelie, Rod, and Rice this morning. They throw more at Darrent and Foxworth in man coverage because they are not as good at locking up the WR with Jamming technique at the line. The unbeleivable thing about williams and Foxworth is their recovery speed. At least twice this morning both Closed on Balls where they had been beaten off the line AND MADE THE DEFELECTION!

Paymah just never allowed more than token seperation after his Press technique. He gets beaten Alot underneath in the Zone though and that looks worse than it is, since both times he kept them from the First down. I can easily see how people think this is getting burned though since he needs a lot of work in his Zone coverage responsibilities.

[Kaylore]

In some of the camps where I've seen him manned up he's gotten beat as well - particularly on the deep ball. Last week's Broncos TV show a few of them and there are several receivers that he is just a hair short of moving down field for the big play. I agree that he played much better today, and their recovery after getting beat is exceptional.

[Play2win]

I'm in Orange Heaven!!

Thanks, guys! :thumbs:

[SoCalBronco]

I'm in Orange Heaven!!

Thanks, guys! :thumbs:

Yep, I am too.

Thanks again Med and Khan! This is easily the greatest preseason/camp period the Mane has ever had. :strong:

[i4jelway7]

see anything of Dorsett Davis?


btw thanks for all the reports guys

[Mediator12]

Speed kills and this defense has speed everywhere INCLUDING the DL now. Warren and Myers really impressed me with their gap penetration. The made a couple of errors though for the most part that allowed a few good runs the Safety's quashed after 5-6 yds.

The LB's are just sick with speed. Louis Green, Marcus Steele, and Chukwurah are really fast as backups. Jashon Sykes and Terry Pierce were faster than I thought.

The secondary However is unbelievable. Lesueur and Ferguson are MUCH faster than I thought and everyone knows how fast the CB's are.

[Rohirrim]

With all that I'm hearing and seeing about this D, I'm doing all I can to keep my homer rockets from going into overdrive. Breathe! Breathe!

[Kaylore]

With all that I'm hearing and seeing about this D, I'm doing all I can to keep my homer rockets from going into overdrive. Breathe! Breathe!
Yeah I'm cautiously optimistic. The Texans ran at as at their will last game, so I'm hoping we look better this weekend.

[Mediator12]

Dorsett Davis really played well this morning. He had great inside push especially in the nickle sets. They even had him and Warren playing the DT's at the end of Practice in the nickle first team!

I may have really judged him too severely this offseason from what I had heard from my guys. He looks like he has finally turned the corner MENTALLY and now his awesome Physical attributes are paying dividends as his reads and aggresiveness take over.

[BigPlayShay]

In the 3-3-5 who was in the secondary?

Walls
Bailey
Lynch
Ferguson
???????

[Mediator12]

The only offense I concentrated on this morning, being a defensive assistant mind you, was the WR warmups. That is where I gleaned the new rotation and depth. They always run the drills from highest to lowest on the depth Chart. That is where I saw Darius as #3 then the others.

They were running Double Moves and they looked really sharp. Lots of Chair routes and pivot outs. I was really happy to see only BJ Johnson and Devoe drop Any passes all warmups.

BTW, Watts and Nate Jackson took reps on the juggs after practice. Nate was amazing having them cranked up from ten yards and put on a display! He did not practice with his Hammy being bad but took the reps in sweats anyway! Watts caught everything today in practice that I saw and did not drop a single ball from the Juggs.

[Ballhawk]

Dorsett Davis really played well this morning. He had great inside push especially in the nickle sets. They even had him and Warren playing the DT's at the end of Practice in the nickle first team!

I may have really judged him too severely this offseason from what I had heard from my guys. He looks like he has finally turned the corner MENTALLY and now his awesome Physical attributes are paying dividends as his reads and aggresiveness take over.


We really, really need the youth on this team to step up. As much as I appreciate what Coleman, Raylee and the other older vets did last year, it would be nice to have guys doing it in their prime!

Question is whether Shanny can trust them to do it every week?

[Mediator12]

In the 3-3-5 who was in the secondary?

Walls
Bailey
Lynch
Ferguson
???????
Darrent Williams. He made two NICE run support plays in the red zone too.

[Mediator12]

I gotta get back to The Valley now guys I will give you more tonight.

[BigPlayShay]

Darrent Williams. He made two NICE run support plays in the red zone too.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Mediator12 again.


Did they ever line up with 3 safeties in the 3-3-5 or was it always Darrent

[Ballhawk]

s.

BTW, Watts and Nate Jackson took reps on the juggs after practice. Nate was amazing having them cranked up from ten yards and put on a display! He did not practice with his Hammy being bad but took the reps in sweats anyway! Watts caught everything today in practice that I saw and did not drop a single ball from the Juggs.

I really hope Nate can improve his blocking as he has always been the best set of hands in camp.

[Broncoman13]

I called this 3-3-5 Defense months ago. I even had special names for it... can't remember them now, but everything that Med is claiming happened in practice today is exactly what I was thinking could happen in the past.

The best thing about it vs the 3-4... we have great athletes at LB but I'd prefer a guy like DWill on the field over another LB anytime! He can hit and he'll go after the ball better than any other LB left on the team. Same can be said for just about any other DB on the team. I'm loving what I'm hearing about this D. Thanks for the reports Med and Khan... you guys rock!

[ludo21]

Wow!!!! im freaking pumped reading this!!! Thanks soooo much Med and Khan, you guys are truly making this the best off season ive ever had.

Awesome to hear Coyer mixing it up with different schemes. As the Pats have proved, you can get by with lesser players by confusing the crap outta the opposing O. Man im pumped thanks!!!

[Rohirrim]

http://www.playersinc.com/images/feature/alexsmith1.jpg

I'm actually starting to feel sorry for this guy (can anyone photoshop a bullseye on him?)

[ND Bronco Fan]

As the Pats have proved, you can get by with lesser players by confusing the crap outta the opposing O. Man im pumped thanks!!!

Yeah and imagine what you can do with talented players!!!

[Sodak]

The straight dope.

Thanks guys!

[Rock Chalk]

Man, as much as I like seeing our rookie secondary do well in practice, I still have horrid flashbacks to Roc Alexander in coverage.

I hope nothing happens to Bailey or Walls this year.

[ozomulsion]

Tatum will be used outside the 10's and Anderson will be used on short yardage and goal line.

You wanna bet? Tatum all the way buddy!

[ozomulsion]

Thats the problem with Anderson. Does anyone remember what happened to Droughns last year. Everyone stacked the middle of the field knowing he would not beat them around the end. Tater needs to step up.

Have no doubts!