Invesco Field or Mile High?? [Archive] - The Orange Mane

Kaylore

08-16-2005, 09:22 PM

2KBack

08-16-2005, 09:30 PM

Do the right thing and name it for the most important player in Bronco's history.

artcruz2

08-16-2005, 09:30 PM

Kaylore

08-16-2005, 09:33 PM

Do the right thing and name it for the most important player in Bronco's history.
I don't Think "Daryl Gardner" stadium has a good ring. Maybe we can contract it out and do IHOP Stadium at Mile High! :P

Sodak

08-16-2005, 09:33 PM

Invesco shouldn't be there, or any other corporate scumbags for that matter. They're corporate season ticket holders for a fickle crowd of white collar wankers.

It could be much worse though.

Just imagine "Monostat 7 Stadium at Mile High"...

artcruz2

08-16-2005, 09:34 PM

How about HOOTERS at Mile High?

Hogan11

08-16-2005, 09:36 PM

I like the sound of "Floyd Little Field" myself..........:thumbs:

SouthStndJunkie

08-16-2005, 09:36 PM

How long will it really take to get back the old home field advantage again??

The Broncos need to create some memories in the new stadium...playoff memories. People need memories like that to attach and endear themselves to something. There have been some pleasant regular season wins in Invesco, but a deep playoff run involving a few home games would really help. I could look out at Mile High and remember some amazing games over the years...hard to think of a lot of them in Invesco, although there have been some good ones. It does not help Invesco that Elway and Mile High will always be linked whereas Invesco is linked with Griese and Plummer for the most part.

SSJ

Hercules Rockefeller

08-16-2005, 09:37 PM

Get a dominant O or D and the noise level will go back up. Knowing your team has red-zone issues is going to dampen the enthusiasm for the offense, and knowing that the chances of a turnover, sack, or even a consistent pass rush on defense are almost non-existant doesn't breed excitement when that unit is on the field either.

Give the fans something to cheer for. Sorry, but I don't believe in the "cheer for the sake of cheering" philosophy that some here espouse. It's on the Broncos to create the reason(s) for the fans to get loud.

Kaylore

08-16-2005, 09:42 PM

All I know is that when I go to games there are too many people (new) that don't get into the game. Last year I went to a game and somebody behind me told me to stop jumping up when the Broncos scored, I told them they need to go back to Coors field.
This is the real problem and the embryo of Meck's crusade. There is a large group of people who don't appreciate good football. They sit there in their loafers without socks, eat their cheese and wine and maybe lightly applaud when a score occurs. When the game looks to be over they leave five minutes early and swing by a Village Inn on their way home. No passion, no love of the game and no connection to the team. Just a bunch of pansy losers with money to blow.

Hercules Rockefeller

08-16-2005, 09:44 PM

There is a large group of people who don't appreciate good football.

You assume that the product that's been put on the field the past few seasons has been good football.

Kaylore

08-16-2005, 09:46 PM

You assume that the product that's been put on the field the past few seasons has been good football.
I'll root for my team if it goes 4-10. To say they need to earn our support, especially after a 10-6 season shows how spoiled this team's fan base really is.

2KBack

08-16-2005, 09:47 PM

It does not help Invesco that Elway and Mile High will always be linked whereas Invesco is linked with Griese and Plummer for the most part.

SSJ

that's why I want a John Elway Stadium/field, we could even refer to it as The Duke. What better way to get those old mile high ghosts back?

SouthStndJunkie

08-16-2005, 09:48 PM

artcruz2

08-16-2005, 09:49 PM

Remember when you used to be able to walk down by the field before and after the games. Those were the good old days.

Kaylore

08-16-2005, 09:50 PM

Just give me one Raiders game, one South Stands reunion where all the old rowdies get in free. Top it off with a dollar beer night.

I guarantee a victory and noise that will shake the cameras and scare small children. Probably lot's of fights too.....it would be great, just like good old days. Yuppies would be so offended that they may never return if they got out alive.

SSJ
No doubt. Sometimes I wonder what a few loosing seasons would do to weed out all the pansy-fans. Get the people that want to be there to make noise into the stands. That would shake things up.

watermock

08-16-2005, 09:54 PM

Meck and I have been discussing a potential campaign of sorts on this. "Invesco" shouldn't be there. We were trying to figure out how to put together a campaign to buy back the rights or even just get voters to let us keep the name.

My only problem is the new stadium isn't Mile High. There will never be another stadium like Mile High. If enough fans wanted to call it that, I'd be ok with it, but I'd prefer Broncos Stadium or something.

They can call it Invesco, we don't have to. It's not important, or usefull to complain about the name. Fans can generate enthusiasm in other ways, like if someone built a killer fan bus and could give live fan reports from the games via the internet. That would be cool.

I just call it New Mile High and don't even worry about it. The talking heads have to use the corporate name, we don't. The Bus can't even advertise, altho I did see an orangemane.com small sign.

I think that the homefield will improve as everyone gets more comfortable with how things are now. Noone can bring back the atmosphere of the Original Mile High, but noone can bring back America pre-9/11 either and the rediculous security. It's more than the stadium IMO, it's the whole deal...it's gotten out of control. Everything is so tainted with corporate sponsors and they try to glean every dime they can from fans. I'm honestly surprised they aren't charging for parking at Dove Valley and checking you thru security, alltho I have heard Fred may be a Federal Agent.

They better find some home field advantage and stop losing to teams like Chicago and Oakland. We have home games against New England, Philly, Baltimore, and San Diego.

SouthStndJunkie

08-16-2005, 09:55 PM

Too many people go to the games as a social event and to be seen. It is no different than a trip to the park or the mall for many of them.

SSJ

DBroncos4life

08-16-2005, 09:58 PM

Call it whatever you want just make it loud and make is shake!!!!

Hercules Rockefeller

08-16-2005, 09:58 PM

I'll root for my team if it goes 4-10. To say they need to earn our support, especially after a 10-6 season shows how spoiled this team's fan base really is.

So what happened to the other two games?

To say that they should be cheered for just for the sake that they're on the field is pretty weak. You also again make the assumption that just because the team was 10-6, they played good football or football that's worth the "Mile High" level that everyone wants back. I've said in the past multiple times that people are fooling themselves if they think the '99 and '00 Mile High levels are louder than what Invesco is currently at, but that's not for this thread. There is nothing on this team that causes a large level of excitement. An offense that can score at will? Nope. A defense that pressures the QB or forces turnovers? Nope. How about individual players? Anyone on the offense that brings people to their feet? Lelie doesn't touch the ball enough, Bell's unknown, Rod was never that type of player, and Jake brings just as much frustration. How about the D? Champ? 3 picks is his career high and he's never scored a TD? Al? Nope. Trev? Not since he played DT.

RhymesayersDU

08-16-2005, 10:08 PM

To steal a tired sports cliche:

"It's not the name on the back of the jersey, it's the name on the front that matters.

Well, "It's not the name of the stadium that matters, it's the people inside it."

To think that dropping the Invesco is going to make everything better is laughable at best. A lot of good points have been brought up here. I think the best one is this new generation of Broncos (minus Old Timer Rod Smith! ;) ), so to speak, need to create their own history and own memories.

I grew up with Elway, and loved him just as much as anybody here. But we need to let him go. These guys, here and now, need to write some history. We need to stop clinging to ESPN Classic showing "The Drive" or Super Bowl Highlights of Elway doing that infamous 8-yard run.

artcruz2

08-16-2005, 10:12 PM

Mile High Stadium had the fans pretty close to the field. It had that old school NFL feeling to it. Even on a bad weather day it was the funnest place to be in DENVER. It still to this day is the loudest place I had ever been (Raiders games-the best).

watermock

08-16-2005, 10:16 PM

I have read that overall, the seats are actually closer to the field and the line of sights are better. Now that's probably debateable for the nosebleeds. Yes, the stadium is much bigger, but that's alot of bigger concourses, clubs and other stuff. I have read it's steeper steps. They used steel risers, so they intended to make the place thunder. It's up to the fans now. I bet we have had the old stadium creaking with it's own voice, not just rumbling, but groaning. She WAS old. It's a fine mre stadium. I'm tired of it getting bashed. It's up to the fans to bring it alive.

broncoblue

08-16-2005, 10:39 PM

Just give me one Raiders game, one South Stands reunion where all the old rowdies get in free. Top it off with a dollar beer night.

I guarantee a victory and noise that will shake the cameras and scare small children. Probably lot's of fights too.....it would be great, just like the good old days. Yuppies would be so offended that they may never return if they got out alive.

SSJ

could i get a special invite for that one ,sounds like a plan.:P :militia:

watermock

08-16-2005, 10:50 PM

Dollar admission and dollar beers might work at Coors field and get a few fans in there, if they have fireworks. You don't hear alot of anger about Coors having the naming rights of the baseball stadium. Having an ugly name Invesco, along with the classic fraudulent ripoffs so typical of investment firms, coupled again with all the crap advice where people lost their asses in 2000 doesn't make for a good stadium name.

As was mentioned, things aint going to change, they can just be improved.

Something like Coca-Cola stadium would work better. Most the good names are gone like Coors, Busch, Pepsi ect. Coke has to have a palace somewhere, maybe Atlanta?

SouthStndJunkie

08-16-2005, 10:54 PM

could i get a special invite for that one ,sounds like a plan.:P :militia:

I have you down for 2 tickets.

SSJ

Kaylore

08-16-2005, 11:00 PM

So what happened to the other two games?

To say that they should be cheered for just for the sake that they're on the field is pretty weak. You also again make the assumption that just because the team was 10-6, they played good football or football that's worth the "Mile High" level that everyone wants back. I've said in the past multiple times that people are fooling themselves if they think the '99 and '00 Mile High levels are louder than what Invesco is currently at, but that's not for this thread. There is nothing on this team that causes a large level of excitement. An offense that can score at will? Nope. A defense that pressures the QB or forces turnovers? Nope. How about individual players? Anyone on the offense that brings people to their feet? Lelie doesn't touch the ball enough, Bell's unknown, Rod was never that type of player, and Jake brings just as much frustration. How about the D? Champ? 3 picks is his career high and he's never scored a TD? Al? Nope. Trev? Not since he played DT.

Sorry Herc but you and I are going to have to agree to disagree. I grew up with the Broncos. They are like family to me. I come from a place where you root for the team because they're your team, not because you aren't getting your "value added" out of your ticket. Maybe your support of a team is conditioned on their quality of play. That's fine. Mine isn't.

I don't always agree with my team's offseason moves. I don't always like their draft picks and I don't always think that they play up to their potential. But when the Denver Broncos take the field, don't look at me to sit in my chair and sniff my nose at my team demanding "X" amount of production before I feel they've sufficiently "earned" my support. I'll cheer for and support the Denver Broncos because I love them and I love football.

ludo21

08-16-2005, 11:04 PM

Sorry Herc but you and I are going to have to agree to disagree. I grew up with the Broncos. They are like family to me. I come from a place where you root for the team because they're your team, not because you aren't getting your "value added" out of your ticket. Maybe your support of a team is conditioned on their quality of play. That's fine. Mine isn't.

I don't always agree with my team's offseason moves. I don't always like their draft picks and I don't always think that they play up to their potential. But when the Denver Broncos take the field, don't look at me to sit in my chair and sniff my nose at my team demanding "X" amount of production before I feel they've sufficiently "earned" my support. I'll cheer for and support the Denver Broncos because I love them and I love football.

I wish i could rep you, but still cant caz of your dang articles hmmm...

But i agree 100% with you, thats exactly how i am as well, i just cheer for them caz their the Broncos, not caz of whos on the field, i love the Team, everyone! :notworthy

SimonFletcher73

08-16-2005, 11:09 PM

http://orangemane.com/BB/attachment.php?attachmentid=12202&stc=1

god that's a beautiful stadium

delany

08-16-2005, 11:12 PM

Sorry Herc but you and I are going to have to agree to disagree. I grew up with the Broncos. They are like family to me. I come from a place where you root for the team because they're your team, not because you aren't getting your "value added" out of your ticket. Maybe your support of a team is conditioned on their quality of play. That's fine. Mine isn't.

I don't always agree with my team's offseason moves. I don't always like their draft picks and I don't always think that they play up to their potential. But when the Denver Broncos take the field, don't look at me to sit in my chair and sniff my nose at my team demanding "X" amount of production before I feel they've sufficiently "earned" my support. I'll cheer for and support the Denver Broncos because I love them and I love football.

...and I agree.

but Herc, SSJ and most posting in this thread and on this forum feel the way you expressed.

watermock

08-16-2005, 11:17 PM

Khan sounds like someone I would vote "Most likely to go down with the ship" in his yearbook.

DBroncos4life

08-16-2005, 11:20 PM

Khan sounds like someone I would vote "Most likely to go down with the ship" in his yearbook.

Mock oh Mock. I have a great comeback for that but I think I will just let it slip into the night.

SouthStndJunkie

08-16-2005, 11:21 PM

...and I agree.

but Herc, SSJ and most posting in this thread and on this forum feel the way you expressed.

Don't lump me in as a guy who needs a great team to get loud and crazy. I have backed my Broncos win or lose from day one. I was simply responding to the question of what it would take for the magic to be in Invesco.....and that answer is some playoff wins and memorable moments.

SSJ

watermock

08-16-2005, 11:22 PM

Since it probably went over your head, go right ahead.

DBroncos4life

08-16-2005, 11:24 PM

Since it probably went over your head, go right ahead.

:boxing:

delany

08-16-2005, 11:45 PM

Don't lump me in as a guy who needs a great team to get loud and crazy. I have backed my Broncos win or lose from day one. I was simply responding to the question of what it would take for the magic to be in Invesco.....and that answer is some playoff wins and memorable moments.

SSJ

I know you have dude.

Before Ohio. During. After.

That was my point.

24champ

08-17-2005, 12:44 AM

Why dont we all pool up some money and do some Jerry Lewis type telethon to name the stadium a different name?

watermock

08-17-2005, 01:24 AM

Why don't we stop worrying about it and just call it New Mile High? Invesco is so mismanaged, it's on the brink of bankrupcy and multiple class action suits. It's not important.

SouthStndJunkie

08-17-2005, 08:29 AM

I know you have dude.

Before Ohio. During. After.

That was my point.

That is cool. I just misunderstood you.

SSJ

TheDave

08-17-2005, 08:30 AM

I don't Think "Daryl Gardner" stadium has a good ring. Maybe we can contract it out and do IHOP Stadium at Mile High! :P

Ban Him! ;)

Billy Clyde Puckett

08-17-2005, 08:52 AM

Why don't we stop worrying about it and just call it New Mile High? Invesco is so mismanaged, it's on the brink of bankrupcy and multiple class action suits. It's not important.

Sorry Mock, but that is not true. Actually Invesco no longer exists. the company has been purchased by another Mutual Fund company and the Invesco name has been taken of most, if not all of the funds.

broncoblue

08-17-2005, 10:04 AM

2KBack

08-17-2005, 10:13 AM

maven

08-17-2005, 11:40 AM

How long will it really take to get back the old home field advantage agian??

When the stadium is 30+ years old & falling apart.

TailgateNut

08-18-2005, 02:23 AM

How long will it really take to get back the old home field advantage agian??

The "old home field advantage" is history. That time has passed. Although quite a few of the "old timers" remain. The "New crowd" doesn't back the team win or loose. It's a fair weather stadium, in more than one way. If the Broncos are sucking it up, they ccould'nt by support, and if it's a bit too cold outside, all of the "pansies" head for the comfort of their suburbian neighborhoods.
What is most disturbing to me is the goon squad (appropriately dressed in yellow) which is charged with the task of keeping the crowd from becoming to loud (supportive of their team).
I was brought up to "raise hell for the team", but now when I attend games I get "stupid a$$" looks from "neighbors and the goons" when my wife and I are the only ones in our section making noise!

The old "Mile High Magic" went away with "Old Mile High", and although I applaud and support any effort to return that magic to the stadium, I realize that those are days which only exist in wonderful memories!

watermock

08-18-2005, 02:37 AM

Well,the new stadium coupled with 9/11 was a double punch. I hadn't heard about the yellow jackets.

Quite honestly, I think alot of hardcore fans just don't want to deal with the bullshiat at this point. The hoops you have to jump thru thru at this point are honestly, rediculous.

How Meck77 puts so much effort into this is beyond me. I commend him. I just run the remote. It's such a circus even to get a seat, I would probably just hang with the bus than go to the actual game. I'm sorry, but it's gotten so rediculous. It's like when there is a computer mixup and the computer says to strip search some 86 year old granny or 86 month old baby. I saw something from Geraldo, and it was amazing. He has a triple SSS on his boarding pass because of all the times he's been to Iraq or Afganistan. Don't we all know who Geraldo is? I think so! He said that if some terrorist sees SSS on the bottom right of his boarding pass, he will get auto searched. So any terrorist can just turn around and walk away. You think about it. it's not even in a scanned boarding pass. It's printed. I get my boarding pass, it's sss, I just turn around and leave.

Rocket 7

08-18-2005, 02:42 AM

The "old home field advantage" is history. That time has passed. Although quite a few of the "old timers" remain. The "New crowd" doesn't back the team win or loose. It's a fair weather stadium, in more than one way. If the Broncos are sucking it up, they ccould'nt by support, and if it's a bit too cold outside, all of the "pansies" head for the comfort of their suburbian neighborhoods.
What is most disturbing to me is the goon squad (appropriately dressed in yellow) which is charged with the task of keeping the crowd from becoming to loud (supportive of their team).
I was brought up to "raise hell for the team", but now when I attend games I get "stupid a$$" looks from "neighbors and the goons" when my wife and I are the only ones in our section making noise!

The old "Mile High Magic" went away with "Old Mile High", and although I applaud and support any effort to return that magic to the stadium, I realize that those are days which only exist in wonderful memories!
Fu*k the Raiders, Are we gonna let this POS be right? We have the best fans,the loudest fans, the most die-hard fans around.My name is David and I'm a broncoholic.

TailgateNut

08-18-2005, 02:56 AM

**** the Raiders, Are we gonna let this POS be right? We have the best fans,the loudest fans, the most die-hard fans around.My name is David and I'm a broncoholic.

You must have flunked reading comprehension 101.

Son, I grew up a bronco fan, went to my first Bronco game before you were even a gleam in your fathers eye, and haven't missed a game in over a decade! The statements I made are based on experience and dedicated attendance, not hearsay nor wishful thinking!
Maybe you should take a minute to look at my avatar before inserting your foot in your mouth!!!!!

BTW: I don't appreciate being labeled a POS! :poke:

RhymesayersDU

08-18-2005, 08:14 AM

You must have flunked reading comprehension 101.

Son, I grew up a bronco fan, went to my first Bronco game before you were even a gleam in your fathers eye, and haven't missed a game in over a decade! The statements I made are based on experience and dedicated attendance, not hearsay nor wishful thinking!
Maybe you should take a minute to look at my avatar before inserting your foot in your mouth!!!!!

BTW: I don't appreciate being labeled a POS! :poke:
LOL

I think he saw your avatar saying "Oakland" but didn't wait for it to change to "SUCKS!"

I always used to think you were Raider fan at first.

Spider

08-18-2005, 08:20 AM

Sorry Herc but you and I are going to have to agree to disagree. I grew up with the Broncos. They are like family to me. I come from a place where you root for the team because they're your team, not because you aren't getting your "value added" out of your ticket. Maybe your support of a team is conditioned on their quality of play. That's fine. Mine isn't.

I don't always agree with my team's offseason moves. I don't always like their draft picks and I don't always think that they play up to their potential. But when the Denver Broncos take the field, don't look at me to sit in my chair and sniff my nose at my team demanding "X" amount of production before I feel they've sufficiently "earned" my support. I'll cheer for and support the Denver Broncos because I love them and I love football.
Rep!!!!!!!! thats it in nut shell most of us that were fans in the 70's had this passion for the Broncos we knew we wouldnt win , but what the hell they was our Broncos dammit .... Denver could be 1 and 14 , i will still cheer the last game in hopes they win ........ Kaylore you got Bronco mania fever Bro .. ;D and it is great

broncoblue

08-18-2005, 01:25 PM

Rep!!!!!!!! thats it in nut shell most of us that were fans in the 70's had this passion for the Broncos we knew we wouldnt win , but what the hell they was our Broncos dammit .... Denver could be 1 and 14 , i will still cheer the last game in hopes they win ........ Kaylore you got Bronco mania fever Bro .. ;D and it is great
best two posts ive read....although only a fan since 82 ...ive two teams in my blood and i am absolute suicidal when either broncos or blackburn rovers get beat and its a strange feeling when one wins and the other loses.
Any relationship i get involved in from now on must get rule no.1 in their head from day1 ...ROVERS AND BRONCOS COME 1ST!!

Cito Pelon

08-18-2005, 02:19 PM

A little info about the Authority for Invesco:

http://www.doradographics.com/MFSD/history.html

Spider

08-18-2005, 05:29 PM

best two posts ive read....although only a fan since 82 ...ive two teams in my blood and i am absolute suicidal when either broncos or blackburn rovers get beat and its a strange feeling when one wins and the other loses.
Any relationship i get involved in from now on must get rule no.1 in their head from day1 ...ROVERS AND BRONCOS COME 1ST!!
you guys over seas flyin the Bronco colors are real impressive .......Major props Bro

kingpriest2

08-19-2005, 01:12 PM

Do the right thing and name it for the most important player in Bronco's history.

Horses Ass

I tend to agree

Odysseus

08-19-2005, 01:49 PM

I'll root for my team if it goes 4-10. To say they need to earn our support, especially after a 10-6 season shows how spoiled this team's fan base really is.

This is exactly what I am talking about.

Odysseus

08-19-2005, 02:03 PM

Too many people go to the games as a social event and to be seen. It is no different than a trip to the park or the mall for many of them.

SSJ

This is why I turned down club seating. I'd rather take my meals down at the bus with the real fans. They don't know the players. They don't know the team. I don't have anything to talk with them about. Stadium seats are fun when you want to talk business but football...Where do the beer drinkers sit?

Odysseus

08-19-2005, 02:23 PM

you guys over seas flyin the Bronco colors are real impressive .......Major props Bro

It's always interesting the conversations I get in wearing my Jake Plummer jersey both pro and con. It's all good.

What? You don't like Jake? What? You think it's his fault? Bring it on! I once argued in his defense (sort of) without sleep for nearly a week! Can you handle that? What? I can't hear you? You talking to me? You sure you are talking to me? I don't see anyone else here so you must be talking to me!

Props to all guys in Europe representing the Broncos.

broncoblue

08-20-2005, 12:40 AM

i had a good chat on holiday to a bloke about the nfl and gridiron over a few beers when he saw my snake jersey too

Odysseus

08-20-2005, 12:51 AM

i had a good chat on holiday to a bloke about the nfl and gridiron over a few beers when he saw my snake jersey too

What does a scrambling QB do to adjust? I guess we will see.

watermock

08-20-2005, 01:51 AM

Faider Fan telling us about homefield advantage. Half the stadium empty and the other half with Drag queens on crack? This has been happening all over the NFL as teams build stadiums and displace fans to put in club seating. Add in the whole experience has gotten so expensive Joe 6-pack will just sit at home than go thru the grief of the parking, the congestion, the 5 dollar warm flat beer, the security, blah blah blah. My cousin has club seats, and he says it's totally lame in there. When Taco couldn't go because business had come up with the Oakland game, I called my cousin. He said he wasn't going. I begged him. He said he can get club seats free for any game, but wasn't even going. I couldn't believe it and called him a p***Y. Then I found out that he divorced his wife of one year so she could start getting alimony again but still lives with him. How screwed up is that? I didn't even know he had gotten married, yet alone divorced. How amusing. That witch is sucking about 2K a month from the poor bastard even tho she has a full time, good job and a total spoiled brat daughter. I just shake my head. You never have seen such a brat. I hope he's not lurking right now. ;D