The hate runs deep

[Silverandblack48]

For the Broncos, this even though my father was a Bronco fan for life. I remember once we made a bet on a Bronco game and the looser would ware the others team shirt (God I looked sick in blue and Orange), Another time we were watching a Bronco/ Eagles game. Now as a Raider fan I’m always rooting for whoever plays Denver, anyway the Eagles took the lead and I let out a harmless yelp and the SOB throws me out of his house, The memories. Anyway I have been reading this board for years and have got to say you have some real smart fans and I look forward to the battles of being a Raider fan and posting over here. I have gone to the last three season openers and this year I could not make it, so looking at the schedule I said to myself what game would mean the most to me no matter what our record is and the answer is I’m going to a game on Nov 13 got my tickets. Peace Bronco fans I hope this post finds you all well.

Silver Out

[TheManeMan]

Welcome to the board, even though your a scummy CHoakland fan...j/k...

[Ratboy]

Why the hell are you here instead of your father? :D

Welcome.

[Garcia Bronco]

I'd throw your ass out too...Hell...my mum...who's a skins fan got her pictures burned when I was 14 after the Super Bowl.

[Bronx33]

Bronco faith is thicker than blood as you found out......

[Silverandblack48]

[QUOTE=Ratboy]Why the hell are you here instead of your father? :D

He kind of passed away, Love immediate replys thanks guys..

[Silverandblack48]

got to love it..............

[Ninjafied]

At least you’re one up on Bob and have made it outside the house.

[Silverandblack48]

How did you do I know you won any concerns??

[Paladin]

Lol!

[Ballhawk]

At least you’re one up on Bob and have made it outside the house.


Burn!!!! roflmao

[Silverandblack48]

Never been to a Bronco game, I picked seats behind the bronco bench im stoaked.....

[JCMElway]

For the Broncos, this even though my father was a Bronco fan for life. I remember once we made a bet on a Bronco game and the looser would ware the others team shirt (God I looked sick in blue and Orange), Another time we were watching a Bronco/ Eagles game. Now as a Raider fan I’m always rooting for whoever plays Denver, anyway the Eagles took the lead and I let out a harmless yelp and the SOB throws me out of his house, The memories. Anyway I have been reading this board for years and have got to say you have some real smart fans and I look forward to the battles of being a Raider fan and posting over here. I have gone to the last three season openers and this year I could not make it, so looking at the schedule I said to myself what game would mean the most to me no matter what our record is and the answer is I’m going to a game on Nov 13 got my tickets. Peace Bronco fans I hope this post finds you all well.

Silver Out

I look forward to exchanging some good smack talk with ya!

[Bronx33]

Never been to a Bronco game, I picked seats behind the bronco bench im stoaked.....


So WHEN we win will you wear a bronco jersey to work?

[GSRelyea]

So if we win will you wear a bronco jersey to work?
EDIT: So WHEN we win you will wear a Bronco jersey to work.

[SoCalBronco]

welcome to the board

[Blueflame]

How did you do I know you won any concerns??

Some Broncos fans are concerned that the offense didn't come right out and score in either of the first two series against the Texans... that Houston scored first (in their second series) and that veteran LB Al Wilson allowed a young TE to catch a Tony Banks pass for a TD. The goalline stand our defense made in the Texans' first series (withstanding four attempts to punch it into the endzone from the one-yard line) was a thing of beauty, though.

As is pretty normal in the first preseason game, there were too many stupid (avoidable) penalties and with some of the starters sitting out the game, cohesion of the O-line and D-line could have been better. Still, it was a win and no serious injuries were sustained, so I'm not unhappy with that.

Welcome to the Mane, btw. :wave:

[Kaylore]

The Raiders Suck.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Welcome S&B. Watch your back in this jungle.

[broncoblue]

Bronco faith is thicker than blood as you found out......
bronco blood is thick and laced with jack d and guinness and stretches the atlantic.

raider blood is mixed with brother and sister .

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

S&B - most of the guys only come here to see the Avatars. Have no idea why the women hang around here. Oh wait, on second thought .....

[Nuggets4]

The Raiders Suck.

Quoted for truth.

[GSRelyea]

Quoted for truth.


The truth is..... I've got a fever

[Nuggets4]

As do I, but dammit, too many other people prefer I take advil instead of cowbell.

[Evenrude]

For the Broncos, this even though my father was a Bronco fan for life. I remember once we made a bet on a Bronco game and the looser would ware the others team shirt (God I looked sick in blue and Orange), Another time we were watching a Bronco/ Eagles game. Now as a Raider fan I’m always rooting for whoever plays Denver, anyway the Eagles took the lead and I let out a harmless yelp and the SOB throws me out of his house, The memories. Anyway I have been reading this board for years and have got to say you have some real smart fans and I look forward to the battles of being a Raider fan and posting over here. I have gone to the last three season openers and this year I could not make it, so looking at the schedule I said to myself what game would mean the most to me no matter what our record is and the answer is I’m going to a game on Nov 13 got my tickets. Peace Bronco fans I hope this post finds you all well.

Silver Out

Poor guy. Finding out that your son is a Raider fan. Kind of like having him bring home a boyfriend.

J/K.... welcome to the board.

[ScottXray]

bronco blood is thick and laced with jack d and guinness and stretches the atlantic.

raider blood is mixed with brother and sister .


Muhahhhahah! ROFL Hilarious!

Welcome to the mane.

[Silverandblack48]

So WHEN we win will you wear a bronco jersey to work?
No way once bit twice shy :)

[Silverandblack48]

Poor guy. Finding out that your son is a Raider fan. Kind of like having him bring home a boyfriend.

J/K.... welcome to the board.
LOL too funny I needed a good laugh Thx bud...

[Silverandblack48]

I think what bothers me most this year with the broncos is the speed of that D-Line, god I hope you dont flush Collins

[Bronx33]

I think what bothers me most this year with the broncos is the speed of that D-Line, god I hope you dont flush Collins


Thats one of the keys to shutting down moss.........

[Silverandblack48]

Yup sure is but hoping your safety's cant cheat into the backfield with our speed at WR, Your D-Line dont need no more help....

[Crushaholic]

As do I, but dammit, too many other people prefer I take advil instead of cowbell.

LOL

[DiehardRaider]

http://raiderslinks.com/images/gif/donks.jpg

The Broncos will be sitting at the bottom of the AFC West because you're the worst team in the division! The Raiders on the other hand got Randy Moss, the best player in the NFL, and LaMont Jordan while you guys got old and washed up Jerry Rice, the big bust Ron Dayne, and no-talent Maurice Clarett. The one good move you suckers made was in signing Ian Gold - but that won't be enough to save you guys from plummeting next season!

[DiehardRaider]

Oh right you guys also managed to get the entire line from the Browns - a bunch of stiffs and 1st round busts who led the team to one of the worst defenses last year! Just shows how stupid your organization is.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

The Broncos will be sitting at the bottom of the AFC West because you're the worst team in the division! The Raiders on the other hand got Randy Moss, the best player in the NFL, and LaMont Jordan while you guys got old and washed up Jerry Rice, the big bust Ron Dayne, and no-talent Maurice Clarett. The one good move you suckers made was in signing Ian Gold - but that won't be enough to save you guys from plummeting next season!
Lets see, out of 7 things you could have got right you got.......1
Right on par for the typical raider fan.

[rbackfactory80]

Oh right you guys also managed to get the entire line from the Browns - a bunch of stiffs and 1st round busts who led the team to one of the worst defenses last year! Just shows how stupid your organization is.

Ok sapp. Dude shut up

[Hotrod]

http://raiderslinks.com/images/gif/donks.jpg

The Broncos will be sitting at the bottom of the AFC West because you're the worst team in the division! The Raiders on the other hand got Randy Moss, the best player in the NFL, and LaMont Jordan while you guys got old and washed up Jerry Rice, the big bust Ron Dayne, and no-talent Maurice Clarett. The one good move you suckers made was in signing Ian Gold - but that won't be enough to save you guys from plummeting next season!

I cant wait until Collins goes into one of his mulit-game mulit-pick modes and Moss calls him out on Espin rofl

[DiehardRaider]

Sapp was playing DE last year in the 3-4. He's gonna be back this year because he'll be playing at DT under guard in the 4-3, which is his natural position.

[DiehardRaider]

Moss isn't TO - he's a team player and doesn't rip on his teammates. He does rip general managers like the Vikings' Red McCombs who have cap space in the millions but refuse to spend it on free agents.

Browncos are going to melt down next year.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Moss isn't TO - he's a team player and doesn't rip on his teammates.

LOL rofl Hilarious!

[TheReverend]

welcome to the board

Is the question where have you been or is it where have I been?

[TheReverend]

Moss isn't TO - he's a team player and doesn't rip on his teammates. He does rip general managers like the Vikings' Red McCombs who have cap space in the millions but refuse to spend it on free agents.

Browncos are going to melt down next year.

He only rips coaches and QBs I guess... nice homer glasses.

[Blueflame]

LOL rofl Hilarious!

No doubt... Moss a team player? Sure ain't what they say about him in Minnesota. :giggle: LOL rofl Hilarious!

[DiehardRaider]

Read the news you dummies - Several former teammates (eg Cris Carter, Greg Biekert, Denard Walker, and Brad Badger) spoke highly of Moss. Moss renegotiated his contract down TWICE to around the league minimum to help the Raiders sign some more players. The other Raiderse love Randy - he's helping out the young WRs and is committed to winning.

And while they were teammates did he rip Culpepper? He's not like TO who pits all the blame elsewhere - Moss is a team player.

[TheReverend]

Moss is a team player.

When he stays on the field...

[Blueflame]

Read the news you dummies - Several former teammates (eg Cris Carter, Greg Biekert, Denard Walker, and Brad Badger) spoke highly of Moss. Moss renegotiated his contract down TWICE to around the league minimum to help the Raiders sign some more players. The other Raiderse love Randy - he's helping out the young WRs and is committed to winning.

And while they were teammates did he rip Culpepper? He's not like TO who pits all the blame elsewhere - Moss is a team player.

Don't prayers usually end in "amen"?

[DiehardRaider]

Why do people make such a big deal of him walking off the field with 2 seconds left? Brett Favre has done it - your very own Shannon Sharpe has walked off before the game was over - and yet nobody made a big deal out of it.

[Bronx33]

Read the news you dummies - Several former teammates (eg Cris Carter, Greg Biekert, Denard Walker, and Brad Badger) spoke highly of Moss. Moss renegotiated his contract down TWICE to around the league minimum to help the Raiders sign some more players. The other Raiderse love Randy - he's helping out the young WRs and is committed to winning.

And while they were teammates did he rip Culpepper? He's not like TO who pits all the blame elsewhere - Moss is a team player.


We will see how long this attitude lasts....

[Silverandblack48]

I aint talking no smack, Know your enemies and respect them, some things do come back and bite you. Raider till I die or until these two tatoos on my forarms ware off. Silver Out

[rbackfactory80]

I aint talking no smack, Know your enemies and respect them, some things do come back and bite you. Raider till I die or until these two tatoos on my forarms ware off. Silver Out


YOu did not bring that loser diehard raider with you?

[rbackfactory80]

Why do people make such a big deal of him walking off the field with 2 seconds left? Brett Favre has done it - your very own Shannon Sharpe has walked off before the game was over - and yet nobody made a big deal out of it.

Nobody would make a big deal of it if you walked off the board

[Spider]

http://raiderslinks.com/images/gif/donks.jpg

The Broncos will be sitting at the bottom of the AFC West because you're the worst team in the division! The Raiders on the other hand got Randy Moss, the best player in the NFL, and LaMont Jordan while you guys got old and washed up Jerry Rice, the big bust Ron Dayne, and no-talent Maurice Clarett. The one good move you suckers made was in signing Ian Gold - but that won't be enough to save you guys from plummeting next season!
That has to be the best impression of Forrest Gump running smack I have ever seen .......your photo shop skills suck . though I am sure you are proud of that junk .....

[Spider]

For the Broncos, this even though my father was a Bronco fan for life. I remember once we made a bet on a Bronco game and the looser would ware the others team shirt (God I looked sick in blue and Orange), Another time we were watching a Bronco/ Eagles game. Now as a Raider fan I’m always rooting for whoever plays Denver, anyway the Eagles took the lead and I let out a harmless yelp and the SOB throws me out of his house, The memories. Anyway I have been reading this board for years and have got to say you have some real smart fans and I look forward to the battles of being a Raider fan and posting over here. I have gone to the last three season openers and this year I could not make it, so looking at the schedule I said to myself what game would mean the most to me no matter what our record is and the answer is I’m going to a game on Nov 13 got my tickets. Peace Bronco fans I hope this post finds you all well.

Silver Out
I bet after finding out you was Jokeland fan , your Dad would have been a great rubber salesman ;D

[Bronx33]

YOu did not bring that loser diehard raider with you?

SAB is an ok raider fan...................so far! :~ohyah!: diehard showed up when the short bus stopped to get gas to make it over to the KC board.

[gunns]

For the Broncos, this even though my father was a Bronco fan for life. I remember once we made a bet on a Bronco game and the looser would ware the others team shirt (God I looked sick in blue and Orange), Another time we were watching a Bronco/ Eagles game. Now as a Raider fan I’m always rooting for whoever plays Denver, anyway the Eagles took the lead and I let out a harmless yelp and the SOB throws me out of his house, The memories. Anyway I have been reading this board for years and have got to say you have some real smart fans and I look forward to the battles of being a Raider fan and posting over here. I have gone to the last three season openers and this year I could not make it, so looking at the schedule I said to myself what game would mean the most to me no matter what our record is and the answer is I’m going to a game on Nov 13 got my tickets. Peace Bronco fans I hope this post finds you all well.

Silver Out

My deepest sympathies to your father. At least none of my children would disrespect me enough to become a Raider fan. Oh the tragedy of it all!!!

[Raider Bill]

Don't prayers usually end in "amen"?





He's getting help from the Raiders' big free-agent acquisition, Randy Moss. In fact, Turner said, Moss has been assisting all the young receivers, "showing them how to run routes and get open.''

"We're about the same size,'' said Morant, who is 6-foot-4 and 215 pounds (Moss is listed as 6-4 and 205), "although we're not exactly the same kind of receiver. He's helped me a lot because he's played in the league for several years so he can tell all of us what to expect.

"When I'm playing with a guy who has been that good, I try to learn from him. Like, last year, when Jerry Rice was here, I talked to him and watched him to see how he did it. Now, I'm doing that with Randy.''



http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/08/16/SPGFTE8G491.DTL

[gunns]

http://raiderslinks.com/images/gif/donks.jpg

The Broncos will be sitting at the bottom of the AFC West because you're the worst team in the division! The Raiders on the other hand got Randy Moss, the best player in the NFL, and LaMont Jordan while you guys got old and washed up Jerry Rice, the big bust Ron Dayne, and no-talent Maurice Clarett. The one good move you suckers made was in signing Ian Gold - but that won't be enough to save you guys from plummeting next season!

Oh.

No wonder none of my children ever became Raider fans. They all had brains.

[gunns]

Sapp was playing DE last year in the 3-4. He's gonna be back this year because he'll be playing at DT under guard in the 4-3, which is his natural position.

Yeah heard a bunch of Raider fans go crazy saying Sapp was back when he went through the SF O line at Alex Smith.

Shhhhh.....don't tell them that line was swiss cheese with holes big enough for Sapp to slip through.

[Raider Bill]

We're loaded with undertackles. It's not like we're banking on Sapp to return to 2000 form.

None of these guys at DT are going to have to play 50 snaps a game.

[24champ]

The Raiders Suck.

tru dat!

[Blueflame]

''



http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/08/16/SPGFTE8G491.DTL

The point was that Randy Moss has never been... and is not now... what anyone could accurately describe as a "team player". He's a self-promoting prima donna who takes plays off routinely and admits that he "plays when I want to".

Any suggestions that he's going to suddenly change all that now is nothing more than a prayer. He is what he is.... a very talented, but extremely selfish football player.

[Tombstone RJ]

For the Broncos, this even though my father was a Bronco fan for life. I remember once we made a bet on a Bronco game and the looser would ware the others team shirt (God I looked sick in blue and Orange), Another time we were watching a Bronco/ Eagles game. Now as a Raider fan I’m always rooting for whoever plays Denver, anyway the Eagles took the lead and I let out a harmless yelp and the SOB throws me out of his house, The memories. Anyway I have been reading this board for years and have got to say you have some real smart fans and I look forward to the battles of being a Raider fan and posting over here. I have gone to the last three season openers and this year I could not make it, so looking at the schedule I said to myself what game would mean the most to me no matter what our record is and the answer is I’m going to a game on Nov 13 got my tickets. Peace Bronco fans I hope this post finds you all well.

Silver Out

Damn you must have had one lousy relationship with your dad to become a faiders fan. Whatever happened between you two is too bad.

All I can say is hatred runs deeper than love, always has, always will. Hatred blanks out blood, period. Your living proof.

[DiehardRaider]

Damn you must have had one lousy relationship with your dad to become a faiders fan. Whatever happened between you two is too bad.

Who the hell are you to say this you son of a bitch?! If you're a Donko fan your parents must have interbred.

[Raider Bill]

He's a self-promoting prima donna who takes plays off routinely and admits that he "plays when I want to".


That's fine, we have Porter, Curry, Gabriel, and Morrant to spell him if he's winded.

[Spider]

Who the hell are you to say this you son of a b****?! If you're a Donko fan your parents must have interbred.
LOL spoken like a closet Niner fan .....

[Bronx33]

LOL spoken like a closet Niner fan .....


He must be interbred......... ::)

[Tombstone RJ]

Who the hell are you to say this you son of a b****?! If you're a Donko fan your parents must have interbred.

Just calling like I see it, loser.

[gunns]

Who the hell are you to say this you son of a b****?! If you're a Donko fan your parents must have interbred.

Whoa there cowboy, forget your Barrett Robbin meds?

[GoHAM]

Sapp was playing DE last year in the 3-4. He's gonna be back this year because he'll be playing at DT under guard in the 4-3, which is his natural position.

Which speaks so highly of the Faders front office? They sign players that didn't even fit in their system... keep it up Al!

[Spider]

He must be interbred......... ::)
Yeah 10-1 his "Daddy"didnt kick him out for being Raider fan , his daddy kicked him out for blowing Raider fan

[DiehardRaider]

Which speaks so highly of the Faders front office? They sign players that didn't even fit in their system... keep it up Al!

The same front office that brought Randy Moss and LaMont Jordan to our team?!

It was DC Rob Ryan's idea, not Al's, to use Sapp at DE. It was a dumbass move and I think Rob should be fired for not knowing how to use our players.

[DiehardRaider]

Wow I'm so proud of myself - I've maxed out on the black boxes on my first day of posting! Keep the negative rep coming guys - I hate all you hideously inbred Donko fans!!!!

[GoHAM]

The same front office that brought Randy Moss and LaMont Jordan to our team?!

It was DC Rob Ryan's idea, not Al's, to use Sapp at DE. It was a dumbass move and I think Rob should be fired for not knowing how to use our players.

And which front office hired Rob Ryan?

[Pezman]

Wow I'm so proud of myself - I've maxed out on the black boxes on my first day of posting! Keep the negative rep coming guys - I hate all you hideously inbred Donko fans!!!!

Take a day's breather my friend. Clearly you are just trolling at this point. Come back tomorrow with some civil conversation mmmkay?

[GoHAM]

And you're also telling me Al didn't have a say in the Sapp signing or the Ryan hiring or what defensive scheme he would use?

Al has the final say in all Faider decisions.


Get a Clue

[Hogan11]

Raiders?? Ha!

You're kidding right? The Raiders?? Ha!

Thanks for giving me the best laugh I've had in awhile...........

[Bronx33]

Wow I'm so proud of myself - I've maxed out on the black boxes on my first day of posting! Keep the negative rep coming guys - I hate all you hideously inbred Donko fans!!!!

I see you finally spelled inbred right.........

[Raider Bill]

To be fair, there were 2 ways Ryan could have approached it, put the whole system in and worry about players later or only put parts of the system in and lose a year with his outside swing guys just playing 4-3 DE and not 3-4 OLB. He chose the former.

Anyhow, Sapp isnt even on the field when they use a 3 man line this season.

SF only ran 12 plays or so in the first half so my "looks" at the defense were few.

Brayton looks to be in the 260lb range and moving pretty well in space. (playing the "McGinnest" SSLB spot)

Sam Williams turned a couple of weakside runs back inside for the ILB's to clean up keeping outside leverage.

In nickel and dime situations they're using a 4 man line exclusively with Kelly and Sapp getting push up the middle and Burgess and DeLawrence Grant lined up wide angling inwards.

They are banking on a lot of improvement from within, but outside of Burgess, just about everyone's been in the system an entire year with most of the FA's providing depth at this point. I believe they will be improved but how much is anyone's guess.

[Blueflame]

Raiders?? Ha!

You're kidding right? The Raiders?? Ha!

Thanks for giving me the best laugh I've had in awhile...........

It was the claim of Moss as a "team player" (and the expectation that we were naive enough to buy it) that elicited guffaws from me...

[Raider Bill]

It was the claim of Moss as a "team player" (and the expectation that we were naive enough to buy it) that elicited guffaws from me...

Almost as funny as Shanny living off that mastermind rep from 10 years ago.

[Clockwork Orange]

Almost as funny as Shanny living off that mastermind rep from 10 years ago.

Shanny's got Super Bowl rings to show for his rep. What's Moss got to show for his? Other than his admission that he "plays when he feels like it" and his mugshot I mean.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art2/randymoss1.jpg

[Raider Bill]

Moss didn't have a HOF quarterback fall into his lap.

[Blueflame]

Almost as funny as Shanny living off that mastermind rep from 10 years ago.

Well, other than the fact that no one on this thread has tried to sell "Shanahan the mastermind"... but your fellow Fadefan did try to sell "Moss the team player" when the Randy Moss we've all seen throughout his NFL career is essentially the polar opposite of a team player.

[Raider Bill]

Well, other than the fact that no one on this thread has tried to sell "Shanahan the mastermind"... but your fellow Fadefan did try to sell "Moss the team player" when the Randy Moss we've all seen throughout his NFL career is essentially the polar opposite of a team player.


He's been a consumate professional thus far. It's within the realm of possibility that a change of scenery was all the guy needed. Besides, it's not like he beat his wife or anything.

[Clockwork Orange]

Moss didn't have a HOF quarterback fall into his lap.

No, just a perennial Pro Bowl QB that threw for nearly 40 TD's last season and it appears he managed to fall out of favor with him.......along with everyone else in the Vikings organization.

Just keep telling yourselves that everything will change now that he's in Chokeland. I'm sure the Eagles and their fans were saying the same thing about their big WR acquisition a year ago too.

[Kaylore]

That's great that Moss is going to play linebacker and safety as well.

[Blueflame]

He's been a consumate professional thus far. It's within the realm of possibility that a change of scenery was all the guy needed. Besides, it's not like he beat his wife or anything.

As I said... prayers usually end with "Amen"...

The leopard doesn't change his spots, Njbil.

[watermock]

Moss didn't have a HOF quarterback fall into his lap.

WTF? Cullpepper would of won the NFL TD title with 40 if Manning didn't have a crazy year with 49. And Moss missed 7 games, and was limited when he came back. Yet Dante had his best year yet.

There is every reason to believe that Cullpepper can make the HOF if he continues to play well, especially if he can get this years team deep in the playoffs.

[Raider Bill]

Hoisting up those 50 yard rainbows to the Freak will be a thing of the past.

[Raider Bill]

As I said... prayers usually end with "Amen"...

The leopard doesn't change his spots, Njbil.


You're pre emptive attacks have no more basis in reality than my take. Everything thus far points to a guy who just wants to play and not be the center of attention. We are paying him well so a TO type debacle aint happening.

You're praying just as much on your end.

[Raider Bill]

Moss had a third of the receiving TD's (13 of the 39) and missed a third of the games. The Vikings didn't beat a single opponent with a winning record without him and beat 2, Jaguars and Green Bay, with him.

[Bronco LB 59]

Moss didn't have a HOF quarterback fall into his lap.


Even though Culpepper has a long ways to go, I wouldn't shut the door on his Hall of Fame chances.

[watermock]

I don't think Moss fell into the lap of a HOF QB in Collins either. Ha!

[Raider Bill]

Even though Culpepper has a long ways to go, I wouldn't shut the door on his Hall of Fame chances.


You're probably right, but since the Pimp Daddy left town, that beneficary of the Peter Principle, Mike Tice has been running the show... not exactly a great offensive mind.

Anyhow, I'm fairly confident that Moss will not act out in Oakland, as he has a close friend in the owners box. Moss was admittedly pissed for getting traded for a player he never heard of. All signs point to him growing up, but it's a wait and see proposition. Running smack about what happened in Minnesota is really irrevelant to this upcoming season.

[Blueflame]

You're pre emptive attacks have no more basis in reality than my take. Everything thus far points to a guy who just wants to play and not be the center of attention. We are paying him well so a TO type debacle aint happening.

You're praying just as much on your end.

No basis in reality? ??? Moss' long history of selfishness and flavor clownery speaks for itself. My "pre emptive attack" asserts that sort of behavior is just a part of Randy Moss, while it appears that you'd like to suggest that geography was responsible.

Tell you what... perhaps you can point to one example of a major prima donna making a 180 and becoming a team player solely as the result of a move to a new team. In response, I'll point to flavor clowns all around the league who continue their antics without missing a beat. Same clown; different city.

[Raider Bill]

No basis in reality? ??? Moss' long history of selfishness and flavor clownery speaks for itself. My "pre emptive attack" asserts that sort of behavior is just a part of Randy Moss, while it appears that you'd like to suggest that geography was responsible.

Tell you what... perhaps you can point to one example of a major prima donna making a 180 and becoming a team player solely as the result of a move to a new team. In response, I'll point to flavor clowns all around the league who continue their antics without missing a beat. Same clown; different city.


It really doesnt matter. You cannot compare another situation to the Raiders where the players have the ear of the owner, as much as, if not more than the coaching staff.

One thing the guy never griped about is money. A lot of that other stuff got blown out of proportion because it was Moss, and no other reason. If Todd Pinkston fake moons the crowd, it's a footnote on page 31.

A team with Randy Moss on it > a team without Randy Moss on it... no two ways about it.

[Raider Bill]

To sit here and say Minnesota was some well oiled machine and Randy Moss ****ed it all up is nonsense... that is one of the worst run franchises in the league.

[Bronco LB 59]

Anyhow, I'm fairly confident that Moss will not act out in Oakland, as he has a close friend in the owners box. Moss was admittedly pissed for getting traded for a player he never heard of. All signs point to him growing up, but it's a wait and see proposition. Running smack about what happened in Minnesota is really irrevelant to this upcoming season.

Moss never heard of Napoleon Harris? It's not the first time Moss has had his ego bruised.

Moss should have been pissed about getting let go by both Notre Dame and Florida State. This was the same guy who dropped to the 21st overall pick of the draft when he was argubly the best player on the board and had a scrub receiver named Kevin Dyson taken ahead of him. None of those instances motivated Moss to change.

That being said, the Raiders don't need Moss to front and be something he's not. They love these types of guys. Don't give me your Moss feel good stories because they are all bull****. Moss is going to talk ****, he's going to smoke his weed and he's going to score his double digit TDs. That's who he is.

[Blueflame]

It really doesnt matter. You cannot compare another situation to the Raiders where the players have the ear of the owner, as much as, if not more than the coaching staff.

One thing the guy never griped about is money. A lot of that other stuff got blown out of proportion because it was Moss, and no other reason. If Todd Pinkston fake moons the crowd, it's a footnote on page 31.

A team with Randy Moss on it > a team without Randy Moss on it... no two ways about it.

It would seem more logical to me to expect a player to continue to behave the way he has consistently behaved throughout his career than to expect him to make a 180-degree change in his conduct.

No one has said he's not talented... we're saying he is not a team player. He is a talented self-promoting flavor clown.

[Raider Bill]

Moss is going to talk ****, he's going to smoke his weed and he's going to score his double digit TDs. That's who he is..


Long as he uses the whizzinator I nor the Raiders really wont give a damn......

There are only 3 standing rules since Madden was coach.

1. Be on time
2. Pay attention
3. Play like hell when I tell you to.

[24champ]

I feel bad for all the Meter Maid cops in Oakland, going to be a tough life dodging Randy Moss's Mercedes.

[watermock]

You're probably right, but since the Pimp Daddy left town, that beneficary of the Peter Principle, Mike Tice has been running the show... not exactly a great offensive mind.

Anyhow, I'm fairly confident that Moss will not act out in Oakland, as he has a close friend in the owners box. Moss was admittedly pissed for getting traded for a player he never heard of. All signs point to him growing up, but it's a wait and see proposition. Running smack about what happened in Minnesota is really irrevelant to this upcoming season.

WTF? First, Pimp Daddy had run any sort of discipline down to the point it was becoming ludicrous up here. I guess Tice is a moron, that's why Cullpepper threw 40 TD's and Moss was out half the year. We all heard from Randy he was going to be a team leader, than he carried a metermaid slowly down the street after a U-Turn and had a blunt in his ashtray that belonged to "A friend".

And when did he become "Best Friends" with Moss? I haven't heard anything about Greasy Al giving out his fan bought Mansion so Randy could throw a ho party. That's what Moss' friends do right?

It's not my fault Moss had never heard of Nap Harris...everyone else had on draft day. I bet Greasy Al and Nap Harris were best friends too on draft day! What exactly makes you so confident Moss is going to be a model citizen in Oakland? Remember when T.O. recited the same damn thing one year ago? A close friend in the Owner's Box. How amusing. What, his ho? Did Randy grow up in Oakland, or has he planted someone in senile Al's box to tell him what plays to run? Tell us the "close friend", this should be hillarious. I bet it's part of his "posse"...isn't it...or his ho.

[Raider Bill]

Cullpepper threw 40 TD's

And Moss still caught 1/3rd of them. Not to mention they lost every game against a team with a winning record when Moss was out.


Since Day 1, the only thing that Mr. Al Davis and his organization have shown is straight Class A hospitality, and I can really appreciate that," Moss said. "I'm overwhelmed by it, I really am."

[TailgateNut]

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Long as he uses the whizzinator I nor the Raiders really wont give a damn......

There are only 3 standing rules since Madden was coach.

1. Be on time
2. Pay attention
3. Play like hell when I tell you to.


You missed one!

4. must have criminal past with extensive rap sheet and up to date mug shot! :raiderssu

[TheManeMan]

Somebody get njbil a ladder so he can climb down from Moss's nuts...

[gunns]

Who the hell are you to say this you son of a b****?! If you're a Donko fan your parents must have interbred.

This example of a Raider fan gave me a bad rep stating that my children must be inbred if they like the "Donkos". My children like the Broncos but they chose their own teams to support. They just were bright enough to NOT pick the Raiders. They recognized it as a has been franchise.

Diehard, don't pass your familia activities onto the rest of us.

[SoCalBronco]

If you're a Donko fan your parents must have interbred.

I think youve got us confused with Chief Fan.

[BroncManFan18]

Moss isn't TO - he's a team player and doesn't rip on his teammates. He does rip general managers like the Vikings' Red McCombs who have cap space in the millions but refuse to spend it on free agents.

Browncos are going to melt down next year.


What kind of team player walks out on his team in the middle of a game?

[Blueflame]

This example of a Raider fan gave me a bad rep stating that my children must be inbred if they like the "Donkos". My children like the Broncos but they chose their own teams to support. They just were bright enough to NOT pick the Raiders. They recognized it as a has been franchise.

Diehard, don't pass your familia activities onto the rest of us.

That example of a Raider fan was spreading around neg rep (and amassing it in return) so fast one would think it had value. However, some of his language was unacceptable on this board and as a result, he won't be around for the next 30 days. Too bad, too... it might have been amusing to watch him trying to spin "team player" Moss' public admission to breaking the NFL's substance abuse policy. Ha!

[Raider Bill]

You missed one!

4. must have criminal past with extensive rap sheet and up to date mug shot! :raiderssu


What? It's not like he beat up a chick and threw her out of a car!

[Raider Bill]

Somebody get njbil a ladder so he can climb down from Moss's nuts...


Heh... that's why I have a 15 page thread (http://www.kffl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133062&highlight=Oakland+Moss) at another board suggesting the Moss acquisition may not have been the best way for the Raiders to proceed going forward.


Hell, if there is anyone doing any swinging from another man's nuts around here it is yourself with that username.

[broncoblue]

What? It's not like he beat up a chick and threw her out of a car!
more like the chick beat him up and then threw up in the car.....


we sing a song after a few beers ,it refers to our most hated rivals in the soccer world...for the word burnley ....add either raider or chiefs.

to the tune of the adams family.


YER MUMS YER DAD
YER DADS YER MUM
YER INTERBRED
YER BURNLEY SCUM.

:militia: ^5

[Raider Bill]

to the tune of the adams family.


YER MUMS YER DAD
YER DADS YER MUM
YER INTERBRED
YER BURNLEY SCUM.

There's not enough sylables to fit that tune!


Oh and I was making a reference to the Donko tight end that beats up women!

[SoCalBronco]

There's not enough sylables to fit that tune!


Oh and I was making a reference to the Donko tight end that beats up women!

He doesnt play TE anymore, Bill. And he has a new TV show too.

[TheManeMan]

Heh... that's why I have a 15 page thread (http://www.kffl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133062&highlight=Oakland+Moss) at another board suggesting the Moss acquisition may not have been the best way for the Raiders to proceed going forward.


Hell, if there is anyone doing any swinging from another man's nuts around here it is yourself with that username.

Good for you and your 15 page thread there...but, in this thread all you've done is swung from Moss' sack...Thats why I stated that...And as for your last comment...My username has nothing to do with that...Can you tell me when or if you've ever seen me boast about Champ here on the Mane?? You'd probably never find a post anywhere remotely close to that...Just because my screen name is after a players name, doesnt mean I've jumped on the guys nutsack...On the other hand, in this thread, you've done nothing but suck Moss off...thats it!!! Either way, go back to the begining of this thread, when you first started posting and you will agree with me that you came off as a guy who is swinging of Randy's nuts...bottom line!

[broncoblue]

There's not enough sylables to fit that tune!


Oh and I was making a reference to the Donko tight end that beats up women!
ooops not addams family..........tom harke

[Raider Bill]

Good for you and your 15 page thread there...but, in this thread all you've done is swung from Moss' sack...Thats why I stated that...And as for your last comment...My username has nothing to do with that...Can you tell me when or if you've ever seen me boast about Champ here on the Mane?? You'd probably never find a post anywhere remotely close to that...Just because my screen name is after a players name, doesnt mean I've jumped on the guys nutsack...On the other hand, in this thread, you've done nothing but suck Moss off...thats it!!! Either way, go back to the begining of this thread, when you first started posting and you will agree with me that you came off as a guy who is swinging of Randy's nuts...bottom line!



I don't swing from his nuts.. I just don't attach this big stigma to being a "flava-clown" like people in this place do. I could really give a rats ass less what any of those players do or how they dress, or whatever as long as they are playing hard on Sunday.

[TheReverend]

I don't swing from his nuts.. I just don't attach this big stigma to being a "flava-clown" like people in this place do. I could really give a rats ass less what any of those players do or how they dress, or whatever as long as they are playing hard on Sunday.

Im the same way. And I say we punch Oakland in the face twice this year.

[TheManeMan]

I don't swing from his nuts.. I just don't attach this big stigma to being a "flava-clown" like people in this place do. I could really give a rats ass less what any of those players do or how they dress, or whatever as long as they are playing hard on Sunday.

And thats the way it should be...Hell, I'm the same exact way, I could care less about any NFL players' off field antics or lifestyles...As long as their playing on Gameday then, they are just another human in my eyes...Everybody goes through all kinds of problems every single day...All players live double lives and the only life I care about is how they perform during the game...Everything else is irrelevant...I dont care if you've had a DUI, I dont care if you've got off from a murder charge, and I dont care if you snort coke and have sex with animals...As long they work their asses off on the field...


BUT...you came off in this thread spewing Moss's stats and how the Vikings fared without him and what not...I was just bustin' your balls saying you were on his nuts...just between me and you though, you were swinging off'em like any homer would...you have every right to, because he's the best WR in the league and he's on your favorite team...straight up...

[Silverandblack48]

IM gonna be at the Nov 13 game 25 yrd line Bronco side, I have never been this stoaked my first Raider Bronco Game.

[The Lone Bolt]

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[Raider Bill]

Chargers fan?? what are there like 11 of ya's now???

[scorpio]

Chargers fan?? what are there like 11 of ya's now???

11?? I thought Boomer was the only (powder blue) Bolts fan who would own up to liking them.

[The Lone Bolt]

Chargers fan?? what are there like 11 of ya's now???


AAAWWWWWWW . . . Don't hate us just because we're the AFC WEST CHAMPS!! :flower:

[24champ]

AAAWWWWWWW . . . Don't hate us just because we're the AFC WEST CHAMPS!! :flower:

whoppee frickin dooo, one year wonders.

[Odysseus]

Moss didn't have a HOF quarterback fall into his lap.

or did Shannahan actually walk Elway into the hall? Do you think he would be considered for induction without the Superbowl win?

His AFC win is the reason Marino got inducted and they even started looking at other players who have been passed by including last year's inductee Fritz Pollard. That is pretty impressive if you think about it.

Shanny gets victimized because he knew that Elway was good? I think that is short sighted and a little redudant. Of course it's harder to Captain a team with lesser mortals! Why is that such a sudden insight? Luck? You don't think he could have had other jobs? You think it's easy to actually win a Superbowl. Apparently they will let anyone get into the thing.

I get tired of hearing people gagging on the fact Shannahan's teams don't go 8-8 for example. Is 8-8 a good thing? Show me where it's good? Did the Raiders draft better? Did they have a better season the next year?

I'm sorry. Let me be brief. The Raiders suck! Questions?

[Odysseus]

whoppee frickin dooo, one year wonders.

You shouldn't be so hard on the little guys. The Gates thing probably really stings right now...plus we stole their coach...ouch!

Let them just be happy while they bleed out.