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SoCalBronco
08-15-2005, 07:35 PM
here's a nice piece on your boy, footsteps27.
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Thorburn: Davis finally living up to his potential
August 15, 2005

Now this is the Dorsett Davis the Denver Broncos thought they drafted three years ago.

Big and athletic. Strong and fast. Unblockable when he wants to be.

Had Davis turned in a preseason performance in 2003 or 2004 like the one he had on Saturday night, the talented defensive tackle would have been in the running for a starting spot.

Not this year. Too little, too low on the totem pole

But with Gerard Warren and Mario Fatafehi sitting out of the Broncos' 20-14 victory over the Houston Texans at Reliant Stadium, Davis nade the most of the extra playing time, finishing with two tackles, a pass defended and creating some pressure on the quarterbacks.

"I'm definitely going to take advantage of this opportunity," the likable Davis promised in the postgame locker room. "When a person goes down the next guy has to step up and have the same intensity."

Davis entered training camp as a starter two years ago, but by the time Denver opened the regular season he was buried on the depth chart. And it wasn't like the team didn't need help at defensive tackle after Daryl Gardener proved to be a complete bust.

The 6-foot-5, 305-pound package of potential spent all of last season on injured reserve after undergoing surgery on his left hand during the first week of training camp.

"I'm just excited to get this (expletive) rolling again," Davis said after a recent practice. The Mississippi native watches his language a lot more carefully in mixed company than he does on the football field or in the locker room. "I'm kicking butt, man. And I'm loving it. I see the fear in the offensive linemen's eyes when I come there. That let's me know that I'm kicking butt, too."


Even though Davis says he feels healthier and happier than he has since his freshman year at Mississippi State, the depth chart says the former third-round pick has dug himself a hole in Denver that will be difficult to get out of.

Warren and Michael Myers are the projected starters with Fatafehi and Monsanto Pope running with the second team. Davis and veteran Luther Elliss will probably both play in the NFL this season, but perhaps not for the Broncos.

"That's all good man," Davis said when asked about his current position on the team. "But once you turn on that tape then you see my work. I ain't worried about what you hear, I worry about what people see."

Perhaps Davis has opened some eyes in the organization. First-year defensive line coach Andre Patterson told the Camera recently that the only thing stopping Davis was Davis.

The fourth-year pro says he finally read the memo.

"I think they have confidence that I can make plays. I've just got to show them that I'm consistent in my technique and being where I'm supposed to be," Davis said. "Consistency is the key. Not blowing the (expletive) up for two plays and taking a play off and coming back and blowing it up. ...

"I don't look at nobody here like they are just dominant over me, like they can do something I can't do. For me it's all up here, all mental. I'm putting it on my shoulders. I'm not leaning on nobody, it's all on me."

It's still a long shot, but perhaps Dorsett Terrell Davis was meant to be a Bronco after all

footstepsfrom#27
08-15-2005, 07:39 PM
I'm not saying anything. We'll wait and see what happens.

Bronco LB 59
08-15-2005, 07:43 PM
I'm not saying anything. We'll wait and see what happens.

That's the right way to go about this. Two years ago, Dorsett ran with the first team through most of camp and was a non-factor during the 03 season.

I hope the Broncos hold onto him for one simple reason: He's one of the few young guys on the defensive line with room to grow.

Florida_Bronco
08-15-2005, 07:46 PM
I'm not saying anything. We'll wait and see what happens.

Exactly.

Broncoman13
08-15-2005, 07:50 PM
This shouldn't come as a suprise to anybody. Most of us called this two weeks ago. You'll see a good bit of Davis in the pre-season so teams will have some good tape of him and we can go after that trade. The chances of him remaining in Denver are about 5%. 50% trade and 45% he is cut... very slim chance of him remaining in Denver. The only way he remains is by really lighting it up and making the Broncos think twice and as good as he's been this camp and pre-season he's not lighting it up to make the brass think twice...not yet anyhow.

DBroncos4life
08-15-2005, 07:50 PM
Of course he is. Its contract year for a guy on our Dline.

watermock
08-15-2005, 08:00 PM
Davis should of read the memo before we brought in 5 new linemen and Kept Pryce. However, Brown, Pryce, Ekuban and Engleberger are all DE's. When he was drafted, people said he looked like a Bruce Smith clone. Played like Jane clone. Yeah, he seriously hurt his little finger, which has generated some giggles, but it was more serious than it sounded, unless they cut his finger off, evidently.

I think he's still got a long road and will probably need an injury to make the roster. Maybe two, and who want's that? Maybe a player for player swap. We don't really need a conditional draft choice, we have quite a few and will probably get two more for Heyward and Kenoy. I wish we would of picked up Rod Garner for a second day pick than to now have Jerry Rice as our #3. That's not good IMO. Watt's has to stop dropping balls.

ludo21
08-15-2005, 08:09 PM
Davis should of read the memo before we brought in 5 new linemen and Kept Pryce. However, Brown, Pryce, Ekuban and Engleberger are all DE's. When he was drafted, people said he looked like a Bruce Smith clone. Played like Jane clone. Yeah, he seriously hurt his little finger, which has generated some giggles, but it was more serious than it sounded, unless they cut his finger off, evidently.

I think he's still got a long road and will probably need an injury to make the roster. Maybe two, and who want's that? Maybe a player for player swap. We don't really need a conditional draft choice, we have quite a few and will probably get two more for Heyward and Kenoy. I wish we would of picked up Rod Garner for a second day pick than to now have Jerry Rice as our #3. That's not good IMO. Watt's has to stop dropping balls.


Davis is a big guy that we need on the line, caz i agree what was said earlier, he is one of the only young guys on the line that has room for improvement. He has untapped potential and i want him here when that potential is released.
And mock found a way to get watts in this thread. lol, even tho it had nothing to do with offense or Wr's

OrangeShadow
08-15-2005, 08:36 PM
all hype until we see results

-Slap-
08-15-2005, 08:58 PM
This shouldn't come as a suprise to anybody. Most of us called this two weeks ago. You'll see a good bit of Davis in the pre-season so teams will have some good tape of him and we can go after that trade. The chances of him remaining in Denver are about 5%. 50% trade and 45% he is cut... very slim chance of him remaining in Denver. The only way he remains is by really lighting it up and making the Broncos think twice and as good as he's been this camp and pre-season he's not lighting it up to make the brass think twice...not yet anyhow.
If he plays like he did last night, he'll beat those odds and remain in Denver.

Rascal
08-15-2005, 09:38 PM
I was impressed with his play and if he keeps up the effort they will find a place on the roster for him.

-Slap-
08-15-2005, 10:36 PM
I can understand people having a wait-and-see attitude, but I'm optimistic. He was all over the field the other night and he's always aced the eyeball test.

labronco
08-15-2005, 10:52 PM
with or without the finger amputation, i cannot trust somebody who sat out the whole season because of a pinky injury, after majorly underachieving since getting drafted. shouldn't have drafted him the first place.

-Slap-
08-15-2005, 11:05 PM
with or without the finger amputation, i cannot trust somebody who sat out the whole season because of a pinky injury, after majorly underachieving since getting drafted. shouldn't have drafted him the first place.
Jack Lambert retired because of his toe. What a nancy boy.

I'm fairly certain the team made the decision to place Dorsett on IR, which shut him down for the year.

Cito Pelon
08-15-2005, 11:13 PM
I liked how he said you can't blow up a play, then take a play off. He gets the picture. Last year the interior DL did play hot and cold way too much. He was one of the guys that stood out in the first preseason game, playing on the first team.

Cito Pelon
08-15-2005, 11:16 PM
If he plays like he did last night, he'll beat those odds and remain in Denver.

Apparently, Dorsett understands consistency is the key.

-Slap-
08-15-2005, 11:30 PM
I've had company all weekend and I couldn't give the game undivided attention today, but it seemed to me like Davis was serving notice that the old Dorsett has died and he's been born again hard.

JCMElway
08-15-2005, 11:49 PM
This shouldn't come as a suprise to anybody. Most of us called this two weeks ago. You'll see a good bit of Davis in the pre-season so teams will have some good tape of him and we can go after that trade. The chances of him remaining in Denver are about 5%. 50% trade and 45% he is cut... very slim chance of him remaining in Denver. The only way he remains is by really lighting it up and making the Broncos think twice and as good as he's been this camp and pre-season he's not lighting it up to make the brass think twice...not yet anyhow.

I couldn't disagree more.

1. Right now Davis is running on the third team with Fatafehi and Pope on the second team. Now I like Pope, but if Davis can be consistent he could push his way past Pope easily. He has the physical tools and the mental part of the game is starting to come together as well.

2. I think it is a safe bet that we keep 9 or 10 DL. If we keep 9 Davis would be the choice over Ellis, Coleman, or Palepoi (More upside.) If we keep 10, which is more likely with the injury history on the DL as a whole, Davis has even more of an opportunity to stick.

3. Shanny does not like to give up on his draft choices. Deltha, Middlebrooks, and Griese are examples of guys who were allowed to stay way too long. Shanny has way too much pride in this area. However, it will serve the Broncs well here. Young talent on the DL is hard to develop and hard to keep. It looks as if Dorsett may finally get it this year.

And I'm willing to cut him some slack. His first year he was rookie and didn't understand his role and how to play. Happens to a lot of rookies. The next year, he goes on IR because of the pinky. Would I have endured a lifetime of disfigurement? Probably not and I have to say I respect his choice. After all, it is just a job and he is young. If the Broncs want to cut him for not MAIMING himself, I'd have to side with Davis. So this is really his first opportunity to amend for his rookie year. It looks like the Broncs are going to give him a chance. I think he'll be a productive player in the DL rotation this year.

If, however, they do trade him, I'll be pissed if it's anything less than a 4th rounder. There's so much potential there.

Cito Pelon
08-15-2005, 11:55 PM
Davis was on the first team D.

Pat Bowlen
08-15-2005, 11:55 PM
with or without the finger amputation, i cannot trust somebody who sat out the whole season because of a pinky injury
This is a fairly idiotic thing to say.

JCMElway
08-15-2005, 11:58 PM
Davis was on the first team D.

When was Davis on First team? Right now the Broncs depth chart has Myers and Warren on the 1st team and Fatafehi and Pope on the 2nd. In the Texans game Dorsett may have had more reps with the 1st or 2nd unit due to Myers, Warren, and Fatafehi not playing. (Waitaminute....did Myers play? I can't remember.)

DivineLegion
08-16-2005, 12:00 AM
Wow hes a one preseason game wonder lets see if he can play like that when it counts. I watched the game and I have to admit he was dominent but I would rather keep someone like Palipoi around. Davis had a shot but I hope to God that someone with more upside dosent get cut in his stead...

BTW- Chuck looked solid, he can fly for a guy his size and the fumble he forced showed his game smarts...taking advantage of a youngen. Another second stringer I noticed again a LB was Pierce hes not noted for having good off field speed but his game speed was incredible.

DBroncos4life
08-16-2005, 12:01 AM
When was Davis on First team? Right now the Broncs depth chart has Myers and Warren on the 1st team and Fatafehi and Pope on the 2nd. In the Texans game Dorsett may have had more reps with the 1st or 2nd unit due to Myers, Warren, and Fatafehi not playing. (Waitaminute....did Myers play? I can't remember.)



Warren didn't play in that game so maybe thats why or when.

Kaylore
08-16-2005, 12:02 AM
When was Davis on First team? Right now the Broncs depth chart has Myers and Warren on the 1st team and Fatafehi and Pope on the 2nd. In the Texans game Dorsett may have had more reps with the 1st or 2nd unit due to Myers, Warren, and Fatafehi not playing. (Waitaminute....did Myers play? I can't remember.)
Myers played.

Cito Pelon
08-16-2005, 12:05 AM
When was Davis on First team? Right now the Broncs depth chart has Myers and Warren on the 1st team and Fatafehi and Pope on the 2nd. In the Texans game Dorsett may have had more reps with the 1st or 2nd unit due to Myers, Warren, and Fatafehi not playing. (Waitaminute....did Myers play? I can't remember.)

Myers and Davis played first team D from the first snap against the Texans.

Cito Pelon
08-16-2005, 12:09 AM
Wow hes a one preseason game wonder lets see if he can play like that when it counts. I watched the game and I have to admit he was dominent but I would rather keep someone like Palipoi around. Davis had a shot but I hope to God that someone with more upside dosent get cut in his stead...

BTW- Chuck looked solid, he can fly for a guy his size and the fumble he forced showed his game smarts...taking advantage of a youngen. Another second stringer I noticed again a LB was Pierce hes not noted for having good off field speed but his game speed was incredible.

Palepoi has no stamina. Chukwurah I like a lot, I thought myself there was no reason to sign Gold when they had Patrick already, they bring the same thing to the team, but Chuk is better IMO.

DivineLegion
08-16-2005, 12:12 AM
Palepoi has no stamina. Chukwurah I like a lot, I thought myself there was no reason to sign Gold when they had Patrick already, they bring the same thing to the team, but Chuk is better IMO.

Palipoi is a situational guy that we could utilize like we did last season. Stamina probably means hes outta shape and im sure that will change by the time 9/11 rolls arond!

footstepsfrom#27
08-16-2005, 12:43 AM
Davis was also first team briefly his first preseason.

Cito Pelon
08-16-2005, 01:03 AM
Palipoi is a situational guy that we could utilize like we did last season. Stamina probably means hes outta shape and im sure that will change by the time 9/11 rolls arond!

Guys that don't have stamina should have no place on the team. You want to kickass in the 4th Q, that's important.

yavoon
08-16-2005, 01:16 AM
Guys that don't have stamina should have no place on the team. You want to kickass in the 4th Q, that's important.

just play them fewer snaps. less stamina isnt that big of a deal unless its on a huge contract player.

Odysseus
08-16-2005, 04:17 AM
I want a fast high motor guy who plays every down. Situational guys are a dime a dozen. I can always go get a savvy vet. What can you groom a situational guy for? More of the same? Getting worst? Real depth is served by complete players.

broncohaven
08-16-2005, 06:02 AM
Davis will stick, and play. I watched the whole game last night, and two things were clear concerning the DL. Myers could turn into the steal of the offseason, and Davis can be unstoppable. This kid has been likened to Pryce since he was drafted, and unfortunately he's taken a path just like Pryce thus far in his career. Pryce was a complete bust until his third season. When Davis breaks out I want him in a Broncos uniform. Fatefehi, Palepoi, etc. are journeymen on their best day, Davis has star potential.

And for everyone saying "let's wait and see what he does when it counts". When you're in your third year, buried on the depth chart, largely considered a bust and on the verge of being castoff into the uncertainty that is the preseason FA market; preseason counts. Every second your on the field counts.

kent156
08-16-2005, 06:12 AM
Myers and Davis played first team D from the first snap against the Texans.


you sure i thought i saw pope gettting laid out a couple of times number 75 right?
i

Ballhawk
08-16-2005, 01:54 PM
We may be seeing an impact from having Patterson as a coach. He has always been a player's coach. With Myers being able to play inside and out, it is hard to guess if Denver will keep the extra DE or DT.

DBroncos4life
08-16-2005, 01:59 PM
Lets say he does live up to his potential this year, what do you guys think that will be number wise? 30-40 tackles? 5 sacks? The thing that jumps out the most about him is the amount of balls that he seems to be knocking down. That right there sound nice as hell.

Hercules Rockefeller
08-16-2005, 01:59 PM
Pryce was a complete bust until his third season.

Teams were already gameplanning around Trevor in his 2nd year, and he had 8.5 sacks that season too.

Lestat
08-16-2005, 05:18 PM
i'm happy he's finally starting to get it, but while i'm also optimistic i will reserve it cause last time i was optimistic about a DL Bryant McNeal(aka Jason Taylor jr) stunk it up

Broncoman13
08-18-2005, 05:38 PM
If he plays like he did last night, he'll beat those odds and remain in Denver.



Looks like you called it! Davis is practicing with the first team according to KFFL!!!

epicSocialism4tw
11-26-2011, 05:17 PM
Saw this thread linked at the bottom of another thread...are we electing Dorsett Davis to the ring of fame any time soon? ;D

How crazy is it that Broderick Bunkley is the best defensive tackle brought in to this squad since Trevor Pryce?

This franchise has to be the worst at acquiring DT's in the league. I cant imagine that anyone has been worse.

campocorto
11-26-2011, 05:42 PM
How crazy is it that Broderick Bunkley is the best defensive tackle brought in to this squad since Trevor Pryce?

I feel Gerard Warren had a similar season to Bunkley in 2005, but other than that it's been a long line of disappointments at DT.

Chester McGlockton was solid too, but I wouldn't characterize him as an overwhelming success.

epicSocialism4tw
11-26-2011, 05:58 PM
I feel Gerard Warren had a similar season to Bunkley in 2005, but other than that it's been a long line of disappointments at DT.

Chester McGlockton was solid too, but I wouldn't characterize him as an overwhelming success.

Though I am a fan of G-money, he wasn't as consistent as Bunk.

maher_tyler
11-27-2011, 12:05 AM
I feel Gerard Warren had a similar season to Bunkley in 2005, but other than that it's been a long line of disappointments at DT.

Chester McGlockton was solid too, but I wouldn't characterize him as an overwhelming success.

Cutting Warren when we did, left me scratching my head.

theAPAOps5
11-27-2011, 12:08 AM
Holy crap talk about a thread bump!

Doggcow
11-27-2011, 12:14 AM
Holy crap talk about a thread bump!

I was reading and was like "WHO THE **** IS DAVIS?" before I saw the date.

ZONA
11-27-2011, 12:15 AM
Holy crap talk about a thread bump!

I hear ya. Just wow.

theAPAOps5
11-27-2011, 12:27 AM
I was reading and was like "WHO THE **** IS DAVIS?" before I saw the date.

LOL you weren't the only one!

barryr
11-27-2011, 07:39 AM
Davis, yet another failed attempt by Shanahan to improve the DL through the draft. Strangely he did draft Nick Eason, but gave up on him before he got started and he has gone to to be s decent backup DL at least, winning a ring or 2 with the Steelers.

bowtown
11-27-2011, 07:46 AM
Cutting Warren when we did, left me scratching my head.

We didn't cut him.