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broncohaven
08-15-2005, 06:04 AM
I thought I would take a stab at the 53 man roster now that we've seen some quasi-real action and can separate a little of the truth from the fantansies of camp. Not a depth chart, players are listed in no particular order.

QB-
1.Plummer
2.Van Pelt

That's right, only two.

RB-
3.Anderson
4.Bell
5.Dayne

MoC to the practice squad. Q to wherever he can find a job.

WR-
6.Lelie
7.Smith
8.Rice
9.Watts
10.Devoe
11.Adams

Devoe will make this squad, and Luke is the out man.

TE-
12.Putzier
13.Alexander
14.Jackson
15.Leach

Alexander finally makes Hape expendable.

OL-
16.Foster
17.Lepsis
18.Carlisle
19.Clabo
20.Nalen
21.Hamilton
22.Watton
23.Carswell

Carswell will be an eligible receiever on a few occassions this year. Myers to PS.

FB-
24.Johnson

Just one. Anderson will backup at FB and RB. He'll get carries at RB as long as Kyle Johnson stays healthy to play FB.

CB-
25.Walls
26.Bailey
27.Williams
28.Paymah
29.Foxworth
30.Alexander

It's a full on youth movement, but these guys can all play, and have huge upside. After Bailey and Walls none of the oher CBs have much more experience than the rookies, and none of them have the talent.

S-
31.Lynch
32.Ferguson
33.Brandon
34.Browner

Brandon is resurrected, and Browner is the future at FS.

LB-
35.Wilson
36.Williams
37.Gold
38.Pierce
39.Chukwurah
40.Burns

Burns could lose his spot here, but I think his leadership on ST will push him past Sykes and Green.

DE-
41.Pryce
42.Brown
43.Engelberger
44.Ekuban
45.Coleman

Palepoi has a chance to get in here, but that depends more on other positions more than his performance.

DT-
46.Warren
47.Myers
48.Pope
49.Davis
50.Ellis

Dorsett will have a breakout year. Mark my words.

Kickers-
51.Elam
52.Sauerbrun
53.Ernster

Ernster will stick once he settles down and starts driving kickoffs deep. His upside as a punter will make him too valuable to release or try to clear to the practice squad.

Players still have a chance to prove they are indespensible. My favorites to hang around that aren't listed above are.

1.Palepoi
2.MoC-his live action performance will be vital
3.Fatefehi
4.Myers

AlienBronco
08-15-2005, 12:08 PM
Remember that Denver is primarely a running team, so I would say that 3 RB are not enough. So....

AlienBronco
08-15-2005, 12:09 PM
My hope is that Rice will retire..

SoCalBronco
08-15-2005, 12:18 PM
It will come down to Mo vs. Q. Shanny cant get away with putting Mo on the IR this year. Mo will get the nod. Also, been going over the numbers and I agree with broncohaven, Sykes might get left out.

SoCalBronco
08-15-2005, 12:19 PM
Right now I have the following on the outside looking in:
Sykes
Q
Devoe
Luke
R. Alexander
Shoate
Young
Ernster
Davis

DBroncos4life
08-15-2005, 12:21 PM
One cool thing about Todd is that he held the ball for Kasey with the Panthers last year. With it looking like Kanell might not make the team that is important to have a guy that has done that in the past. As is thought I don't see our rookie taking a roster spot at this time. Not after being out kicked by Todd on kickoffs.

Billy Clyde Puckett
08-15-2005, 01:01 PM
I think you have to go down one WR and either one LB or CB then add a RB and OL. I think Luke beats out DeVoe and Adams based on his return skills. The only other backup returner is Roc.

shutdownchamp24
08-15-2005, 01:05 PM
noooooooooooooooo, I love Roc, He has the speed we need for special teams.

Liquid Courage
08-15-2005, 01:26 PM
I think you have to go down one WR and either one LB or CB then add a RB and OL. I think Luke beats out DeVoe and Adams based on his return skills. The only other backup returner is Roc.

We couldn't use Champ or Rod on returns in an emergency?

As for receivers, I just think it is tough denying Devoe his due when he's shown instincts to find the open space; although I don't have the pleasure of getting to watch each receivers' ability to get seperation so anyone guess is as good as mine. I agree that it will be tough to forgoe the potential of the young receivers for an octogenarian running fade routes.

Billy Clyde Puckett
08-15-2005, 01:33 PM
We couldn't use Champ or Rod on returns in an emergency?

As for receivers, I just think it is tough denying Devoe his due when he's shown instincts to find the open space; although I don't have the pleasure of getting to watch each receivers' ability to get seperation so anyone guess is as good as mine. I agree that it will be tough to forgoe the potential of the young receivers for an octogenarian running fade routes.

You could use those guys to finish out a game, but it would be very risky to have them as your only option if Willimas went down for an extended period.

I think you see two of DeVoe, Crenshaw and Johnson on the PS. I also think there will be two OL on the PS, probably the guys I am cheering for, Meyers and Claybo with them keeping the expereinced guys like Green, Clement, Spikes, Watton and Carswell on the active roster.

Bronco LB 59
08-15-2005, 01:38 PM
Let's not get overly excited about guys like Devoe, Adams, Dayne and Dorsett Davis over one game. These guys are still on the outside looking in and need to keep it up. It's easy to see a guy make a few plays and think the guy is coming around. Don't let the "halo effect" cloud your judgment.

footstepsfrom#27
08-15-2005, 01:39 PM
QB-
1.Plummer
2.Van Pelt
To risky...they keep 3 and suprisingly, Kannell gets the nod over Mauck. Shanny won't keep two backups with 0 games of NFL experience

RB-
3.Anderson
4.Bell
5.Dayne
This is the hardest call. I see TB nosing out MA by the end of the preseason when he breaks a couple of long ones. Dayne will continue to push both but they keep 4 as MoC stays on the roster while Q's looking for work. Three years away from the game is to much for this guy.

WR-
6.Lelie
7.Smith
8.Rice
9.Watts
10.Devoe
11.Adams
This will be the biggest suprise in camp. Going out on a limb here but...Rice decides to retire instead of get cut as Shanny finally accepts the fact he can't hold a roster spot based on having a coach on the field alone, especially since Rod can do it also. Jerry doesn't win the job on the field as Devoe sticks and Luke because of his speed and ability to return kicks. Adams comes very close but just short. They keep only 5.

TE-
12.Putzier
13.Alexander
14.Jackson
15.Leach
Another suprise...Jackson looks impressive in practice but not as much so in the games and gets hurt in preseason. Leach sticks but so does Hape because he can play FB also and is good in the red zone.
OL-
16.Foster
17.Lepsis
18.Carlisle
19.Clabo
20.Nalen
21.Hamilton
22.Watton
23.Carswell

Carswell will be an eligible receiever on a few occassions this year. Myers to PS.
They carry 9 as Green makes it also since he's a true tackle.

FB-
24.Johnson

Just one. Anderson will backup at FB and RB. He'll get carries at RB as long as Kyle Johnson stays healthy to play FB.
Agreed. No need for more than one w/ MA and Hape able to fill in.

CB-
25.Walls
26.Bailey
27.Williams
28.Paymah
29.Foxworth
30.Alexander

It's a full on youth movement, but these guys can all play, and have huge upside. After Bailey and Walls none of the oher CBs have much more experience than the rookies, and none of them have the talent.
I think they only keep 5 but the only change I see here is maybe Cox nosing out Alexander if they keep 6...because Roc is out either way.

S-
31.Lynch
32.Ferguson
33.Brandon
34.Browner

Brandon is resurrected, and Browner is the future at FS.
Agreed...Lesueur to the PS.
LB-
35.Wilson
36.Williams
37.Gold
38.Pierce
39.Chukwurah
40.Burns

Burns could lose his spot here, but I think his leadership on ST will push him past Sykes and Green.
Agreed...every year we think someone will beat out Burns.

DE-
41.Pryce
42.Brown
43.Engelberger
44.Ekuban
45.Coleman

Palepoi has a chance to get in here, but that depends more on other positions more than his performance.
Give me Palepoi over Coleman based on youth/potential and he's a pass rush guy.

DT-
46.Warren
47.Myers
48.Pope
49.Davis
50.Ellis

Dorsett will have a breakout year. Mark my words.
No way I see them keeping 5. Davis over Fatefehi? That might be possible based on pass rush potential but Fatefehi was a starter last year...Luther Ellils to the retirement home. Davis sticks because they have enough run stuffer types in Myers and Pope and he's finally getting it.

Kickers-
51.Elam
52.Sauerbrun
53.Ernster

Ernster will stick once he settles down and starts driving kickoffs deep. His upside as a punter will make him too valuable to release or try to clear to the practice squad.
I've been talked into it. Ernster stays IF he's getting the KO's into the end zone and punts in the games like he is in practice. Gotta have some insurance in case Sauerbrun goes postal.

Suprises: Kannel and MoC stay, Rice goes, Davis over Fatefehi, Hape still survives over Jackson and we carry 3 kickers. This isn't necessarily what I would do, but it's what I think Shanny will do.

Liquid Courage
08-15-2005, 01:46 PM
True. We'd be FUBAR and folks would be all over the coaching staff for putting them into special teams and having them get injured. I just feel that in this day and age [salary & roster cap], that you have to put your best players on the field and leave chance to the armchair residents [me] and talking heads - and I still like Champ as a 5th wideout more than anyone else. Hell, I like him better as the THIRD wideout. ;-)

PatsWin2002
08-15-2005, 01:53 PM
Here's a link to the latest Broncos Report (dated today).

I can't start new threads.....so here it goes.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/broncos/home.htm

Rich Karlis
08-15-2005, 01:57 PM
To risky...they keep 3 and suprisingly, Kannell gets the nod over Mauck. Shanny won't keep two backups with 0 games of NFL experience

Cut Kannell and if something happens to Plummer we can bring Danny back. I dont think there will be too many teams jumping on Kannell if he gets cut.

footstepsfrom#27
08-15-2005, 02:01 PM
Cut Kannell and if something happens to Plummer we can bring Danny back. I dont think there will be too many teams jumping on Kannell if he gets cut.
A WCO team might pick him up...what's his salary?

Ray Finkle
08-15-2005, 02:22 PM
here is my crack...

1-Plummer

2-Kannel

3-BVP

4-Anderson

5-Bell

6-Dayne

7-Q

8-Johnson

9-Smith

10-Lelie

11-Watts

12-Adams

13-Luke

14-Alexander

15-Putz

16-Jackson

17-Foster

18-Carlisle

19-Nalen

20-Hamilton

21-Lepsis

22-Myers

23-House

24-Clement

25-Bailey

26-Walls

27-Foxworth

28-Williams

29-Paymah

30-Lynch

31-Fergie

32-Brandon

33-Browner

34-Lesuer

35-DJ

36-AL

37-Gold

38-Pierce

39-Chucky

40-Green

41-Pryce

42-Ekuban

43-Engelberger

44-Brown

45-Palepoi

46-Warren

47-Fatefehi

48-Myers

49-Davis

50-Pope

51-Elam

52-Sauerbrun

53-Ernster

Hercules Rockefeller
08-15-2005, 02:26 PM
Clarett will never clear waivers. He's either on the active roster or IR.

Ray Finkle
08-15-2005, 02:28 PM
Clarett will never clear waivers. He's either on the active roster or IR.


I think Shanny will slide him onto the IR with a crushed ego or sports hernia...

Ballhawk
08-15-2005, 02:35 PM
Clarett will never clear waivers. He's either on the active roster or IR.

I think Moc would clear waviers. We are talking about a guy that has not played in 2 years and will most likely only get 1 preseason game and a few touches. I do not know too many coaches that would take him on their 53 man roster based on only tape from almost 3 years ago. He is a prime example of what PS is for.

ncjmirabile
08-15-2005, 02:35 PM
Shanny will generally take youth with potential over age unless the veteran player really shows something significant.

Hercules Rockefeller
08-15-2005, 02:49 PM
I think Moc would clear waviers. We are talking about a guy that has not played in 2 years and will most likely only get 1 preseason game and a few touches. I do not know too many coaches that would take him on their 53 man roster based on only tape from almost 3 years ago. He is a prime example of what PS is for.

How many #3 backs have more talent than MoC? Probably 0. There are a ton of teams that would let him take up a roster spot and to give him a year to back into it.

JCMElway
08-15-2005, 04:09 PM
Here's a link to the latest Broncos Report (dated today).

I can't start new threads.....so here it goes.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/broncos/home.htm

Why can't you start threads?

JCMElway
08-16-2005, 11:32 PM
QB
1. Plummer
2. Van Pelt
3. Mauck (If Ernster can get kicks to the end zone give this slot to him)

Bye Bye DK.

RB
4. Bell
5. Anderson
6. Dayne (Dayne and Anderson will backup at FB)
7. Q (MoC to the PS. If not, he gets this slot)

FB
8. K Johnson

With Dayne, M.A. and Hape all able to play FB, no room for Sapp
WR
9. Smith
10. Lelie
11. Watts
12. Rice
13. Adams (However if Devoe keeps making plays we may keep 6 or he
could supplant Adams)

TE
14. Alexander
15. Putz
16. N Jackson
17. Hape
18. Leach

Yes, I can't believe it, but we keep 5 TEs. Jackson Can play WR if someone goes down, Hape will backup at FB, and Leach long snaps again. Myers ain't ready yet. We'll also keep 5 because of lots of 2 TE sets this year

C
19. Tom Nalen
20. Chris Watton

OG
21. Ben Hamilton
22. Cooper Carlisle
23. Dwayne Carswell

OT
24. George Foster
25. Matt Lepsis
26. Cornell Green

DE
27. Trevor Pryce
28. Courtney Brown
29. Ebenezer Ekuban
30. John Engelberger

DT
31. Mike Myers
32. Gerrard Warren
33. Dorsett Davis
34. Mario Fatafehi
35. Monsanto Pope

LB
36. Wilson
37. Williams
38. Gold
39. Chukwurah
40. Burns
41. Pierce (If Pierce falters L Green could sneak in here)

CB
42. Champ
43. Walls
44. Darrent Williams
44. Foxworth
45. Paymah
46. Roc

S
47. Lynch
48. Fergy
49. Brandon (If Brandon is traded Cox may earn a spot due to tenacity and the ability to play CB or S)
50. Browner

K
51. Elam
52. Sauerbrun

53. Hm, I'm one short....OT Anthony Clement. If Mike wants to keep 8 OL than we probably keep Devoe.

Noteable cuts: Sapp, Miree, Triandos, Stuber, Devoe, Chris Myers, Clabo, Luther Ellis, Marco Coleman, Palepoi, Sykes, Louis Green, LeSueur, Steele, Cox, and Shoate.

If it went down this way the cuts that would hurt the most for me are Devoe, Coleman, and L Green. Coleman is just a great team guy, the other two are young playmakers. Palepoi has potential too.

Wow, these are gonna be some rough cuts.....

Drek
08-17-2005, 04:43 AM
Hell, I'll join the fun. My 53 man:
QB
1 - Jake Plummer
2 - BVP

HB
1 - Mike Anderson
2 - Tatum Bell
3 - Ron Dayne
4 - Q Dog
(Clarett = IR)

FB
1 - Kyle Johnson

WR
1 - Ashley Lelie
2 - Rod Smith
3 - Jerry Rice
4 - Darius Watts
5 - Triandous Luke

TE
1 - Putz
2 - Alexander
3 - Leach
4 - Jackson

C
1 - Nalen
(Hamilton backs up here, Myers on the PS is the 3rd string)

OG
1 - Hamilton
2 - Carlisle
3 - Clabo
4 - Carswell

OT
1 - Lepsis
2 - Foster
3 - Clement
4 - Green

DE
1 - Trev
2 - Brown
3 - Ekuban
4 - Engelberger
5 - Coleman

DT
1 - Warren
2 - Myers
3 - Davis
4 - ??? Up for grabs, Fatafehi, Pope, or Ellis probably.

LB
1 - Wilson
2 - DJ
3 - Gold
4 - Burns
5 - Pierce
6 - Chuck, Green, or Sykes

CB
1 - Bailey
2 - Walls
3 - D.Williams
4 - Paymah
5 - Foxworth

S
1 - Lynch
2 - Ferguson
3 - Brandon
4 - Lesueur (also plays CB)
Browner, Cox to PS

ST
1 - K, Elam
2 - P, Saurbrun

Thats 51, two free. We PS Devoe, Adams, Ernster, Mauck, Myers, Browner, and Cox. If we have room we try and throw Crenshaw and/or BJ Johnson on there as well. We do this knowing that at least a few will get claimed, hence the two open roster spots so we can pull 'em back if we think its worth it. I don't see us doing that for Ernster, Mauck, Cox, Crenshaw, or Johnson. I'd bet only one, if either, of Adams or Devoe gets an offer, so we make that one the #6 WR. Browner and Myers we keep.

Why let Mauck go? Because we can always just resign Kanell or some other vet. Who knows, if BVP drops off and Mauck picks it up they can swap roles, BVP would probably make it through to the PS too if he did drop off enough to loose the #2 job to Mauck.

Why let Ernster go? Because a 7th round pick isn't worth a roster spot. He needs to prove himself a better kickoff guy than Saurbrun before he has any excuse to be on the 53 man. Sure, teams are reported eyeing him but booming legs with very limited experience really aren't that hard to pick up with a 7th rounder every year of the draft.

Of the 51 I'd say that Q and Brandon are on the hottest seats. Q could be flat out cut so that we can keep Hape, that seems very likely to me. Brandon I think very well might get traded if they can get anything out of him. If thats the case we'd shortly after move Browner or Cox back onto the roster. If we're faced with loosing a lot of the PS'ed guys I think Q and Brandon are the first guys let go.

Carswell could also fall into this same trap. I'm not real sure about how him as an OG myself, but he has versatility since he could double duty much like Hape. If we keep Hape though Carswell's usefulness only extends as far as his abilities on the OL go.

I can't see why so many people are leaving Clement off the list. Did I miss him getting hurt or cut already? The guy was a regular starter in AZ, thats valuable NFL experience to have in a backup, plus he's a big, strong true OT that Plummer has played with before and will feel comfortable with. Unless there's some big problem I just never heard about I'd think he's a lock for the primary OT backup spot.

Not having a backup C is more of a roster move than anything I think. Watton isn't that good, we'd be looking to move Hamilton over to C if Nalen goes down for any significant time anyways, so we don't waste the roster spot at the time of cuts, see how the PS pans out, then tweak afterwards to see where we can finagle some room. We could really use Myers, Lepsis, or anyone else for that matter to step up at long snapping so we can cut Leach. If there is a long snapper available who can play C we might go after him and cut Leach regardless.

Hopefully we play our cards right and get to keep our young projectable talent. Of course, this will all be a bit clearer as we near final cuts and see who has stepped up, stepped down, and who's going to IR.

*edit* Lou Green (LB) is another guy I think will be sent to the PS if he doesn't take a spot. Might even if he beats out Sykes, Chuck, and Pierce just because he can be, giving increased flexability. If so we might open the season with only 5 LBs and plan to bring Green up as soon as there is need/room.

Billy Clyde Puckett
08-17-2005, 07:47 AM
Adams is not eligible for the PS. I do not believe Green is either. He was on Broncs PS last year and I believe he was on someone else's the year before. Not sure about Devoe, I haven't looked it up, but I believe he was on three different PS in one year. If that is the case he is eligible, if that was spread over two years, he is not eligible.

Edit: Just informed Devoe has spent two years on PS so he is ineligible.

http://www.nflpa.org/members/main.asp?subPage=CBA+Complete#art34

Section 4. Eligibility:
(a) The practice squad shall consist of the following players, provided that they have not served more than one previous season on a Practice Squad: (i) players who do not have an Accrued Season of NFL experience; and (ii) free agent players who were on the Active List for fewer than nine regular season games during their only Accrued Season(s). No player may be a practice squad player for more than two seasons.
*Extension Agreement 2/25/98

(b) A player shall be deemed to have served on a Practice Squad in a season if he has passed the club’s physical and has been a member of a club’s Practice Squad for at least three regular season or post-season games (a bye week counts as a game provided that the player is not terminated until after the regular season or post-season weekend in question).

JCMElway
08-22-2005, 10:47 PM
QB
1. Plummer
2. Van Pelt
3. Mauck (If Ernster can get kicks to the end zone give this slot to him)

Bye Bye DK.

RB
4. Bell
5. Anderson
6. Dayne (Dayne and Anderson will backup at FB)
7. Q (MoC to the PS. If not, he gets this slot)

FB
8. K Johnson

With Dayne and M.A. able to play FB, no room for Sapp

WR
9. Smith
10. Lelie
11. Watts
12. Rice
13. Adams
14. Devoe

TE
14. Alexander
15. Putz
16. N Jackson
18. Leach

Jackson Can play WR if someone goes down and Leach long snaps again. Myers ain't ready yet. We'll keep 4 because of lots of 2 TE sets this year

C
19. Tom Nalen
20. Chris Watton

OG
21. Ben Hamilton
22. Cooper Carlisle
23. Dwayne Carswell

OT
24. George Foster
25. Matt Lepsis
26. Anthony Clement

DE
27. Trevor Pryce
28. Courtney Brown
29. Ebenezer Ekuban
30. John Engelberger

DT
31. Mike Myers
32. Gerrard Warren
33. Dorsett Davis
34. Mario Fatafehi
35. Monsanto Pope

LB
36. Wilson
37. Williams
38. Gold
39. Chukwurah
40. Burns
41. Pierce (If Pierce falters L Green could sneak in here)

CB
42. Champ
43. Walls
44. Darrent Williams
44. Foxworth
45. Paymah
46. Roc

S
47. Lynch
48. Fergy
49. Brandon (If Brandon is traded Cox may earn a spot due to tenacity and the ability to play CB or S)
50. LeSueur (If Lesueur is the stiff I think he is, Cox could sneak in here as well)

K
51. Elam
52. Sauerbrun

53. Hm, I'm one short....OT Cornell Green. If Mike wants to keep 8 OL than we probably keep an extra RB for Kubes (Sapp) or an extra LB fo Coyer (Sykes.) I'd take Sykes over Sapp if I had the choice.

Notable Possible cuts: Sapp, Miree, Triandos, Stuber, Chris Myers, Clabo, Luther Ellis, Marco Coleman, Sykes, Palepoi, Louis Green, Steele, Cox, and Shoate.

PS
1. Mauck or Ernster
2. Myers
3. MoC
4. Triandos
5. Clabo
6. Duke
7. Patrice MM
8. Cox

If it went down this way the cuts that would hurt the most for me are Coleman and L Green. Coleman is just a great team guy, Green is a young playmaker. Palepoi has potential too.

Wow, these are gonna be some rough cuts.....

Bronco LB 59
08-22-2005, 10:54 PM
Great work JCM! I just have a few comments about the practice squad. I believe Mauck and Clabo are ineligible for the practice squad. Somebody clarify that one for me.

JCMElway
08-22-2005, 11:03 PM
Great work JCM! I just have a few comments about the practice squad. I believe Mauck and Clabo are ineligible for the practice squad. Somebody clarify that one for me.

Mauck was on the PS too long last year for eligibility. However, Clabo was on the Broncs active roster for three games, so I believe he would be eligible. But then again, I'm not sure of the intricacies of the system. Throw Miree on the PS instead. He was on IR last year.

watermock
08-22-2005, 11:26 PM
This is the time of year to expect the unexpected.

Billy Clyde Puckett
08-23-2005, 05:28 AM
You cannot be on the PS if you are on the 53 man roster more than 8 games.
You cannot be on the PS for more than two calendar years.

Claybo is eleigible. I did not look it up, but I believe Mauck was on the 53 man roster less than 8 games last year which would mean he is eligible. Devoe has been on practice squads for the last two years so he is not eligible.

-Slap-
08-23-2005, 05:38 AM
I think Shanny will slide him onto the IR with a crushed ego or sports hernia...
Unfortunately, Mo will probably be the guy holding a press conference in week two to announce he's completely healthy and getting jerked around on IR.

i4jelway7
08-23-2005, 06:41 AM
Here's my stab at the 53 man roster

Offense

QB Plummer, Van Pelt (Yes only 2 QB's on the active roster)
RB Anderson, Bell, Dayne, Griffin
FB Johnson, Sapp (Plus Anderson can fill the backup role if need be)
WR Smith, Lelie, Rice, Watts, Luke, Adams (better ST player than Devoe)
C Nalen, Myers
RG Carlisle, Carswell
LT Lepsis, Green
LG Hamilton, Spikes
RT Foster, Clement
TE Alexander, Putzier, Jackson, Hape or Leach(for LS purposes)

Defense

LDE Brown, Ekuban
LDT Myers, Pope or Fatafehi
RDT Warren, D. Davis
RDE Pryce, Engelberger
SLB D.J. Williams, Sykes
MLB Wilson, Chukwurah
WLB Gold, Pierce,
CB Bailey, Walls, D. Williams, Foxworth, R. Alexander
SS Lynch, Brandon
FS Ferguson, Lesuer
K Elam
P Sauerbrun


CUTS

Offense

QB- Kannell
RB- Clarrett (possibly PS)
FB- Miree, Briggs
WR- B.J. Johnson or Crenshaw, Devoe
C- Watton
RG- Z. Wilson
LT- Pears
LG- Stuber
TE- Leach or Hape

Defense

DE- Coleman, Nwokorie, Hunt, Palepoi, R. Johnson
LB- Green, Steele
DT- Elliss, Veal, Fatafehi or Pope (personally I'd rather see Fatafehi cut)
LB- Green, Steele, Burns (going for youth so they keep Sykes & Chukwurah, ST needs more than Burns can help them with)
CB- Babers (camp fodder), Shoate
SS- Cox


Practice Squad

QB- Friehauf, Mauck (he is still PS eligible right?)
RB- Clarrett (If he can clear waivers to sign to the PS)
WR- B.J. Johnson or Crenshaw
RT- Clabo
TE- Duke
CB- Paymah
K- Ernster

Injured Reserve

SS- Browner, Young
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BroncoBuff
08-23-2005, 07:06 AM
I thought I would take a stab at the 53 man roster now that we've seen some quasi-real action and can separate a little of the truth from the fantansies of camp. Not a depth chart, players are listed in no particular order.



Man, you are one wacky poster! They are SO FREAKING DELIRIOUSLY HAPPY to have Burns back, only Jake Plummer is more of a lock! (An exageration, but Shanny has talked NOTHING BUT special teams all camp, and Burnsey is the czar of special teams, plus - everybody loves him! PLUS - he's really the only Mike LB other than Wilson - Chukwurah hasn't played a down at Mike in Denver anyway)

And MONSANTO POPE?! He may as well pack up now and try to catch on elsewhere - he is THROUGH! A true victim of the Brownco invasion - and Dorsett Davis being healthy (I agree w/ you about him. He is so freaking quick for such a big guy).

I do like your idea about 1 FB, with Anderson the backup. BUT - Mike lost 20 pounds to revert to TB, and Sapp has been NAILS on special teams. And WHAT DO YOU MEAN RON DAYNE AT FB? The next down he plays there will be his first.

Finally, there is NO WAY they will cut Chris Myers, Carswell is DEFINITELY history, and Anthony Clement is a lock! He is too experienced and too versatile. A perfect gameday backup O-Liner.

i4jelway7
08-23-2005, 07:13 AM
Man, you are one wacky poster! They are SO FREAKING DELIRIOUSLY HAPPY to have Burns back, only Jake Plummer is more of a lock! (An exageration, but Shanny has talked NOTHING BUT special teams all camp, and Burnsey is the czar of special teams, plus - everybody loves him! PLUS - he's really the only Mike LB other than Wilson - Chukwurah hasn't played a down at Mike in Denver anyway)

And MONSANTO POPE?! He may as well pack up now and try to catch on elsewhere - he is THROUGH! A true victim of the Brownco invasion - and Dorsett Davis being healthy (I agree w/ you about him. He is so freaking quick for such a big guy).

I do like your idea about 1 FB, with Anderson the backup. BUT - Mike lost 20 pounds to revert to TB, and Sapp has been NAILS on special teams. And WHAT DO YOU MEAN RON DAYNE AT FB? The next down he plays there will be his first.

Finally, there is NO WAY they will cut Chris Myers, Carswell is DEFINITELY history, and Anthony Clement is a lock! He is too experienced and too versatile. A perfect gameday backup O-Liner.



Have you seen the special teams play? they need more help than Burns can give them and obviously whatever Burns brings its not showing up on the field.... cut him sign him as a coach


I'd rather them cut Fatafehi than Pope..


Chris Myers will wind up on the PS

JCMElway
08-23-2005, 09:57 AM
I'd rather them cut Fatafehi than Pope..

Why all the Fatafehi hate on this board???? As far as motor, heart, and character goes he is one of the top players on the team. He may not have all of the physical gifts of some of the other Dliners, but I will take heart and determination any day of the week.

If a cut has to mad on the line I guess I'd rather see Pope go, but Coleman and Ellis are probably history.

JCMElway
08-23-2005, 10:06 AM
Man, you are one wacky poster! They are SO FREAKING DELIRIOUSLY HAPPY to have Burns back, only Jake Plummer is more of a lock! (An exageration, but Shanny has talked NOTHING BUT special teams all camp, and Burnsey is the czar of special teams, plus - everybody loves him! PLUS - he's really the only Mike LB other than Wilson - Chukwurah hasn't played a down at Mike in Denver anyway)

I do like your idea about 1 FB, with Anderson the backup. BUT - Mike lost 20 pounds to revert to TB, and Sapp has been NAILS on special teams. And WHAT DO YOU MEAN RON DAYNE AT FB? The next down he plays there will be his first.

Finally, there is NO WAY they will cut Chris Myers, Carswell is DEFINITELY history, and Anthony Clement is a lock! He is too experienced and too versatile. A perfect gameday backup O-Liner.

I agree they will keep Burns on the team, but isn't Pierce able to play Mike as well? If Pierce can make an addition on ST than Burnsy could go.

I see your point about Sapp on special teams. He could stick.

And there is a way we could cut Myers. If Nalen went down tomorrow he would be a huge liability back there. We will more than likely keep Watton, Carswell, and Clement. As poor as Carswell has looked he is familiar with the Broncos terminology and he's learning a new position. He should have tons of room to improve as he gets used to it. AND Cars isn't starting, so we can afford to let him develop some.

DivineLegion
08-23-2005, 11:20 AM
my 53 and reasoning behind every player.... Say Word...

QB
1 Plummer (Team leader on offense...his last shot at keeping his job this season)
2 Van Pelt (Came on this offseason realy showed up)

RB
3 Bell (We invested a 2nd round pick and has a ton of upside)
4 Anderson (Knows the system inside and out and he does the mile high salute)
5 Dayne (Former hiesman winner who was stuck with no chance...Sleeper?)

FB
6 K Johnson (Do the pony ride baby what a find great FB Shanny loves him!)


WR
7 Smith (Im not sure why hes on the team....)
8 Lelie (Who can contain this kids speed, only getting better)
9 Watts (If we can fix the dropsys he could be on of the best WRs in the leauge)
10 Rice (Pull out the walker and lets get some reps he may be 90 but he can catch)
11 Adams (Good hands, Great ST play wich makes him even more valuble.)
12 Devoe (If he keeps up this sharade of his this spot is all but won!)

TE
13 Alexander (Good blocking good hands decent speed.)
14 Putz (Runs like an idiot with a bad limp but he gets it done)
15 Hape (Shannys lifetime project)

C
16 Tom Nalen (despite his age still one of the best Centers in the leauge)
17 Chris Watton (Hes a back up who is currently slotted behind Myers so who knows)
18 Chris Myers (Late round pick who looks like he holds a feauture spot on this team)

OG

19 Ben Hamilton (Shannys invested alot in him lets see if we can keep the Peniltys down)
20 Cooper Carlisle (The blacksheep of this line he better show up)
21 Dwayne Carswell (Da House its iffy if he makes it, He creates wicked match ups)
22 (spot will be taken by a final cuts pick up)


OT
23 George Foster (Pro bowl year??? We could only wish to bad no one likes him)
24 Matt Lepsis (Second year at LT should be more improved then last season)
25 Anthony Clement (Dont realy know much about him but depth is key)

DE
26 Trevor Pryce (His back is better and he looks like his old self...sorry Alex)
27 Courtney Brown (If he can stay healthy we are looking at a nasty DL Watch out!)
28 Ebenezer Ekuban (Ebb should contribute in rotation)
29 John Engelberger (With Browns injury problem and Coyers rotation he will get 8+ sacks)

DT
30 Mike Myers (Has come on in recent years and should excell with Brown and Pryce taking double teams)
31 Gerrard Warren (Same situation as Myers the Line should dominate with look for lots of two TE sets against us this season)
32 Dorsett Davis (I dident understand how he stayed aboard this team for awhile now its becoming evident)
33 Mario Fatafehi (Gotta love him he has contributed on this team in a limited role)
34 Monsanto Pope (Lots of upside but running out of time...)


LB
35 Wilson (Lets hope he can polish his skills in coverage... D team leader)
36 Williams (If Jesus played linebacker he would be DJ Williams)
37 Gold (Hes tiny, realy tiny...but hes fast and thats our theme on D)
38 Chukwurah (The Predator could start pushing for a starting job with the umpa lumpa infront of him and his abillity to attack the ball)
39 Burns (ST leader and stand out...locker room clown)
40 Pierce (Could be his last year to prove he deserves a spot on this team)
41 Sykes (Coyers love child, Sykes has a ton of potential if he can stay healthy)

CB
42 Champ (The freaking man should see some more turn overs this season)
43 Walls (Tallest Corner in the leauge causes match up problems for offenses)
44 Darrent Williams (Proof Shanny has been smoking crack this one might pan out...)
45 Foxworth (Champs not going to be young forever and Lenny could be gone after this season...the feauture of this team at CB)
46 Paymah (Shanny loves him...when he figures out play calls he should be good)
47 Roc (Peytons whipping boy is a phenominal athlete lets see if we can play on his potential)

S
48 Lynch (Age is killing his speed but he is still the smartest saftey plying in the NFL and can still lay the wood)
49 Fergy (Played well in 2k3 loooking for the same kind of performance)
50 Brandon (This could be his last year to prove himself with Browner waiting in the wings)
51 LeSueur (We need depth thats why hes on here otherwise he would get cut or end up on PS)

K
52 Elam (Highest payed kicker better earn that paycheck)
53 Sauerbrun (If he can lay off the roids and booze we should be ok)

IR

Browner, Young, MOC (this is the only way he gets a chance.)

PS

PS
1. Mauck
2. Ernster
3. Hunt
4. Triandos
5. Clabo
6. Duke
7. Q (is he eligable?)
8. Cox

i4jelway7
08-23-2005, 11:27 AM
my 53 and reasoning behind every player.... Say Word...

QB
1 Plummer (Team leader on offense...his last shot at keeping his job this season)
2 Van Pelt (Came on this offseason realy showed up)

RB
3 Bell (We invested a 2nd round pick and has a ton of upside)
4 Anderson (Knows the system inside and out and he does the mile high salute)
5 Dayne (Former hiesman winner who was stuck with no chance...Sleeper?)

FB
6 K Johnson (Do the pony ride baby what a find great FB Shanny loves him!)


WR
7 Smith (Im not sure why hes on the team....)
8 Lelie (Who can contain this kids speed, only getting better)
9 Watts (If we can fix the dropsys he could be on of the best WRs in the leauge)
10 Rice (Pull out the walker and lets get some reps he may be 90 but he can catch)
11 Adams (Good hands, Great ST play wich makes him even more valuble.)
12 Devoe (If he keeps up this sharade of his this spot is all but won!)

TE
13 Alexander (Good blocking good hands decent speed.)
14 Putz (Runs like an idiot with a bad limp but he gets it done)
15 Hape (Shannys lifetime project)

C
16 Tom Nalen (despite his age still one of the best Centers in the leauge)
17 Chris Watton (Hes a back up who is currently slotted behind Myers so who knows)
18 Chris Myers (Late round pick who looks like he holds a feauture spot on this team)

OG

19 Ben Hamilton (Shannys invested alot in him lets see if we can keep the Peniltys down)
20 Cooper Carlisle (The blacksheep of this line he better show up)
21 Dwayne Carswell (Da House its iffy if he makes it, He creates wicked match ups)
22 (spot will be taken by a final cuts pick up)


OT
23 George Foster (Pro bowl year??? We could only wish to bad no one likes him)
24 Matt Lepsis (Second year at LT should be more improved then last season)
25 Anthony Clement (Dont realy know much about him but depth is key)

DE
26 Trevor Pryce (His back is better and he looks like his old self...sorry Alex)
27 Courtney Brown (If he can stay healthy we are looking at a nasty DL Watch out!)
28 Ebenezer Ekuban (Ebb should contribute in rotation)
29 John Engelberger (With Browns injury problem and Coyers rotation he will get 8+ sacks)

DT
30 Mike Myers (Has come on in recent years and should excell with Brown and Pryce taking double teams)
31 Gerrard Warren (Same situation as Myers the Line should dominate with look for lots of two TE sets against us this season)
32 Dorsett Davis (I dident understand how he stayed aboard this team for awhile now its becoming evident)
33 Mario Fatafehi (Gotta love him he has contributed on this team in a limited role)
34 Monsanto Pope (Lots of upside but running out of time...)


LB
35 Wilson (Lets hope he can polish his skills in coverage... D team leader)
36 Williams (If Jesus played linebacker he would be DJ Williams)
37 Gold (Hes tiny, realy tiny...but hes fast and thats our theme on D)
38 Chukwurah (The Predator could start pushing for a starting job with the umpa lumpa infront of him and his abillity to attack the ball)
39 Burns (ST leader and stand out...locker room clown)
40 Pierce (Could be his last year to prove he deserves a spot on this team)
41 Sykes (Coyers love child, Sykes has a ton of potential if he can stay healthy)

CB
42 Champ (The freaking man should see some more turn overs this season)
43 Walls (Tallest Corner in the leauge causes match up problems for offenses)
44 Darrent Williams (Proof Shanny has been smoking crack this one might pan out...)
45 Foxworth (Champs not going to be young forever and Lenny could be gone after this season...the feauture of this team at CB)
46 Paymah (Shanny loves him...when he figures out play calls he should be good)
47 Roc (Peytons whipping boy is a phenominal athlete lets see if we can play on his potential)

S
48 Lynch (Age is killing his speed but he is still the smartest saftey plying in the NFL and can still lay the wood)
49 Fergy (Played well in 2k3 loooking for the same kind of performance)
50 Brandon (This could be his last year to prove himself with Browner waiting in the wings)
51 LeSueur (We need depth thats why hes on here otherwise he would get cut or end up on PS)

K
52 Elam (Highest payed kicker better earn that paycheck)
53 Sauerbrun (If he can lay off the roids and booze we should be ok)

IR

Browner, Young, MOC (this is the only way he gets a chance.)

PS

PS
1. Mauck
2. Ernster
3. Hunt
4. Triandos
5. Clabo
6. Duke
7. Q (is he eligable?)
8. Cox


I don't think Q or Triandos is PS eligible...

What happened to Nate Jackson, he will be on the team---(McCaffery Esque)

good try though

DivineLegion
08-23-2005, 11:27 AM
I don't think Q or Triandos is PS eligible

good try though

if not I think they walk Luke might find a roster spot but im not sure...

DBroncos4life
08-23-2005, 11:27 AM
Cox will make the active roster just watch.

DivineLegion
08-23-2005, 11:28 AM
Cox will make the active roster just watch.

He might we need freaking depth at Saftey and he can play then im all for it...

i4jelway7
08-23-2005, 11:29 AM
Cox will make the active roster just watch.


sorry I don't think so

DBroncos4life
08-23-2005, 11:34 AM
sorry I don't think so


Well you will be wrong. He has played pretty good on SP teams. He now knows both the CB schemes and Saftey schemes for our team. His play in practice has been nothing but solid from what I have read as well. From the looks of it he will be on the field a lot for the Colts game. After that he will be a lock for the team.

i4jelway7
08-23-2005, 11:37 AM
Well you will be wrong. He has played pretty good on SP teams. He now knows both the CB schemes and Saftey schemes for our team. His play in practice has been nothing but solid from what I have read as well. From the looks of it he will be on the field a lot for the Colts game. After that he will be a lock for the team.



it's possible, but unless there is another injury at the FS, SS, or CB I don't see it happening.. We can revisit this thread in 2 weeks and see who was right :~ohyah!:

Billy Clyde Puckett
08-23-2005, 12:25 PM
Luke, Q and Hunt are not eleigible for PS.

Who long snaps? Myers? I hope so.

Can the Broncs feature the two tight end offense with only three on the squad?

I can't see them going with just 3 RB and one FB. Very risky with the beating RBs take in the NFL.

DivineLegion
08-23-2005, 12:26 PM
Luke, Q and Hunt are not eleigible for PS.

Who long snaps? Myers? I hope so.

Can the Broncs feature the two tight end offense with only three on the squad?

Leach...