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Mediator12
08-13-2005, 12:30 PM
Alright, it is very indirect, but it is there Nyah!

Broncos ready to derail Carr-Johnson combo

By Ryan Thorburn, Camera Sports Writer
August 12, 2005

HOUSTON — The consensus here is that Houston Texans quarterback David Carr and wide receiver Andre Johnson are going to have a huge year. Both talents — Carr was the No. 1 overall pick in 2002, and Johnson was the No. 3 overall pick in 2003 — have endured NFL growing pains and believe they are now experienced enough to lead the expansion franchise to the playoffs in its fourth year of existence.

The Broncos defense has obviously been reading the potentially dynamic duo's press clippings. Seemingly every time Carr has thrown the ball in Johnson's direction this week, a Denver defender has been waiting to knock
it down for an incompletion or make an interception.

During one practice session, D.J. Williams, Darrent Williams, Lenny Walls and Nick Ferguson all created turnovers when Houston's starter looked for his favorite target. "I've been playing Andre since college. I've been covering him for years now and I know him well," said Walls, who played at
Boston College while Johnson was at Miami. "I'd say he's one of the best young guys in this league right now. He's up and coming like myself. He's real big, physical, very fast, talented. But we've got good corners ... we'll be all right."

Normally, Champ Bailey would be matching up with Johnson, as was the case last season when the Pro Bowl cornerback held him to three catches for 28 yards during Denver's 31-13 victory at Invesco Field. But while Bailey, who did not practice on Wednesday and was limited to individual drills on Thursday, has been nursing a sore hamstring this week, Walls and some of
his young teammates have shined.

Darrent Williams has not backed down from anyone, including Johnson, despite giving up about seven inches and 31 pounds to him. The two other cornerbacks the Broncos drafted in April, Domonique Foxworth and Karl Paymah, have looked comfortable competing against a Texans receiving group that also includes Jabar Gaffney, Corey Bradford and Derick
Armstrong. And Curome Cox has made several interceptions.

"Our rookies, to me, they're like the fastest-learning rookies I've seen since I've been in this league," Walls said. "I'm not surprised at all because those guys are going out there and making plays. We have great receivers ourselves, and they're competing against those guys. so I've got a lot of confidence in them come Sunday."

On Saturday night when the Broncos and Texans open the exhibition season at Reliant Stadium, Darrent Williams hopes everyone will get a chance to see what he can do. So far, the Oklahoma State product has been the most pleasant surprise in training camp, running with the first-string defense in Bailey's absence and handling the kick return duties.

"If you've got speed you can run with these guys," Williams said. "That's what I do, and it makes the quarterback have to put
the ball in a tight spot."

Somebody has to build this kid up before tonight and it just happens to be me!

Odysseus
08-13-2005, 12:57 PM
Our cornerbacks rock!

I hope Paymah gets some good press. I hate seeing him and Roc so low on the depth chart.

That all said...

Could somebody keep an eye our offensive line and tell me how we are looking?

SoCalBronco
08-13-2005, 12:58 PM
Great stuff, Med. Man if we hit on all three of these guys plus Browner we'll be set for several years. It already appears that we may have hit on Foxworth and Darrent Williams, although its still extremely early.

Kaylore
08-13-2005, 12:59 PM
That's great news for all our corners as well as Paymah. Maybe all he needs is some success in some real games - a few big plays- and he'll have confidence in himself to use his amazing God-given talent. There is no doubt he has potential. Perhaps he just needs a little more warming up than the others before he gets his game on! Let's hope this is a sign of things getting better for Paymah. I'm really excited that maybe Shanny actually redeemed himself with these three picks and they turn out great.

Sodak
08-13-2005, 01:07 PM
You guys think LeSeuer and Shoate are out?

watermock
08-13-2005, 01:07 PM
Even a blind squirrel can find an acorn. If we find 3, it will be another reason to laugh at the east coast media.

"During one practice session, D.J. Williams, Darrent Williams, Lenny Walls and Nick Ferguson all created turnovers when Houston's starter looked for his favorite target."

Let's not get ahead of ourselves, but if we get 3 of 5 from our DL moves, Pryce stays on his feet, not in traction, and 2 of our 4 secondary picks pan out, we will have had a great offseason. Word is Gold is playing big and fast and knows what he's doing. I like this team Chemistry right now. Sounds like Mighty Mouse is playing big. (D. Williams).

I'm surprised that we had breakdowns on punting, but they might of surprised us, since it was supposed to just be a drill. Sounds like they kinda took a cheap shot to me. I doubt we knew they were going to run a punt block in a drill. That's kinda cheap quite honestly.

watermock
08-13-2005, 01:13 PM
You guys think LeSeuer and Shoate are out?

I can't say for the team of course. I was astounded when they were picked. LeSewer is slow, and Shoate allready had an inury history. They were both considered reaches, but what else is new. Our drafting is like playing Keno. I absolutely hated those picks. I always hate our picks but these totally astounded me. I thought each of our picks were taken too high, but were not bad picks, just a little high. They have their own ladder, and noone sees it.

Looks like we might have 3 or 4 keepers this year.

Rock Chalk
08-13-2005, 01:24 PM
On Saturday night when the Broncos and Texans open the exhibition season at Reliant Stadium, Darrent Williams hopes everyone will get a chance to see what he can do. So far, the Oklahoma State product has been the most pleasant surprise in training camp, running with the first-string defense in Bailey's absence and handling the kick return duties.

****ing sweet.

Sodak
08-13-2005, 01:27 PM
Hey Alec, you don't have the next picture of Ashley with her hands tied behind her back do you?

Heh, heh, meh, hem, he, uhhh, heh, heh, hemm, hmm. heh.

SoCalBronco
08-13-2005, 01:28 PM
Shoate is a great bet for the PS this year. LeSueur will make it. According to Khan, for a while he was running ahead of all the newbies at nickel corner and also had looked good at safety. He's got a spot on the team this year I think. Right now Roc and Brandon Browner are battling for one spot and Paymah is on the outside looking in. All three could make it though if we keep only 3 HBs or 5 LBs or do not make room for Ernster as the kickoff specialist.

Rock Chalk
08-13-2005, 01:29 PM
Hey Alec, you don't have the next picture of Ashley with her hands tied behind her back do you?

Heh, heh, meh, hem, he, uhhh, heh, heh, hemm, hmm. heh.
I have... well, I have respect enough for my baby to not show the world.

Mediator12
08-13-2005, 01:39 PM
Shoate is a great bet for the PS this year. LeSueur will make it. According to Khan, for a while he was running ahead of all the newbies at nickel corner and also had looked good at safety. He's got a spot on the team this year I think. Right now Roc and Brandon Browner are battling for one spot and Paymah is on the outside looking in. All three could make it though if we keep only 3 HBs or 5 LBs or do not make room for Ernster as the kickoff specialist.

I think Brandon is going to get moved finally to a team strapped for safety help. Do not be surprised if he gets a lot of preseason work to protect Lynch and showcase his abilities. That leaves Chris Young to get cut and Browner and Lesueur at Safety depth. The CB's are going to be CB, Walls, Williams, Foxworth and either Alexander or Paymah. Shoate has been to injured too evaluate and is toast!

SoCalBronco
08-13-2005, 01:42 PM
I think Brandon is going to get moved finally to a team strapped for safety help. Do not be surprised if he gets a lot of preseason work to protect Lynch and showcase his abilities. That leaves Chris Young to get cut and Browner and Lesueur at Safety depth. The CB's are going to be CB, Walls, Williams, Foxworth and either Alexander or Paymah. Shoate has been to injured too evaluate and is toast!

Med, what do you think we can get for Sam if he has a decent preaseason? Maybe a 6th or something? I like the youth movement though. Any chance we can keep both Roc and Karl? I figure if we keep only 3 RBs or 5 LBs or 8 OLs, there is room for an extra corner. But only 8 OL would be a bit scary.

watermock
08-13-2005, 01:47 PM
This is a team that has hard choices. It's always hard, but his year, it's even harder IMO.

Ballhawk
08-13-2005, 02:11 PM
With Champ, Walls, Dwill, Forworth, Paymah and Lesuer at Corner, Could we not go with just 3 Safeties in Lynch, Fergy and Browner. Young and Brandon have had their chance. Lesuer can play both S and Corner and with the injuries last year I would rather we leaned to an extra Cover guy than a big hitter.

Ballhawk
08-13-2005, 02:16 PM
I have sen several posters asking for a vet CB, I think our rookies have shown they can get it done. Also, another signing means another cut and I just do not want to see another gone. Shoate, Brandon and Young needs to go...Browner is the future FS and we could grab the big hitter next year in the draft.

Mediator12
08-13-2005, 04:10 PM
I have sen several posters asking for a vet CB, I think our rookies have shown they can get it done. Also, another signing means another cut and I just do not want to see another gone. Shoate, Brandon and Young needs to go...Browner is the future FS and we could grab the big hitter next year in the draft.

The more camp goes on, the more I think you are right about not needing a Veteran CB. However, we will know for sure by Game three of the preseason v. the Colts when the starters play into the third quarter.

Bronco LB 59
08-13-2005, 07:04 PM
This one is just for Mediator

KOA sideline reporter says Shanahan told him Paymah has the "most upside" of the three rookies and thinks he has the chance to be the best one.

baja
08-13-2005, 08:12 PM
Med, what do you think we can get for Sam if he has a decent preaseason? Maybe a 6th or something? I like the youth movement though. Any chance we can keep both Roc and Karl? I figure if we keep only 3 RBs or 5 LBs or 8 OLs, there is room for an extra corner. But only 8 OL would be a bit scary.

Three running backs.......... never happen!!

Perry1977
08-13-2005, 10:58 PM
Was it just me, or did I see the back of Paymah's jersey say "Paymuh"?

watermock
08-13-2005, 11:18 PM
http://72.22.74.110/BB/image.php?u=3096&dateline=1123967691

dunno what do the bottom of your panties say?

ScottXray
08-14-2005, 12:06 AM
Was it just me, or did I see the back of Paymah's jersey say "Paymuh"?


As long as it doesn't say PAY ME or Pay (me ) a TON, who cares. But yeah it said Paymuh! :stupid:

Lestat
08-14-2005, 10:12 AM
i'm glad the rookie CB's are doing well & i must say i was wrong for being irate at Shanny for passing on Miller for Williams(even though i liked Darrent anyways)

i'd hate to see any top 3 round draft picks get cut just cause of a #'s game though