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watermock
08-03-2005, 02:53 AM
They are throwing out a business in San Diego to put up a freaking strip mall!

This is a business with 1500 customers.

This is freaking reeking of Nazi! Private for Private? This is a private company forced to move to another private company by edict to pad the tax base. It's so unconstitutional it's ludicrous.

If a private party wants my property, I should be able to sell it to the highest bidder, or not sell at all. This isn't an interstate project, I understand eminent domain, but Jesus Christ. The goverment can't take away your property for other private ventures. It reeks of bribery. I'm livid. If a private party wants your property, they should have to buy it. It's an outrage IMO. So I nurse a property for 30 years only to have the county decide they want to develop it for PRIVATE use?

I literally can't believe it. They are doing this all over the country. They allready mad a land grab for the new Cowboy stadium. I'm very progressive, but damn. Yoiu can't just run roughshawd over land owners rights. Not if it's not eminent domain. That was bad enough, now they get to put strip malls over your property to enhance the tax base?

And the Democrats are screaming at the court. I want to bitch slap them all as it is.

Beantown Bronco
08-03-2005, 05:18 AM
Latest news: every Walmart in the greater San Diego area has sold out of firearms.

Meck77
02-27-2008, 11:11 AM
Mock you are a wise man. You called it back in 2005.

Governments across this country are testing their new power of eminent domain for profit.

Kaylore
02-27-2008, 11:42 AM
Eminent Domain is supposed to prevent one crazy farmer from holding up an interstate and thus hurting an enitre area. Lately it's a hustle to take property from people and redevelop it to increase their own tax revenue. You think its bad out here, the east coast has been pretty much robbing people for years using these methods.

BroncoBuff
02-27-2008, 03:08 PM
watermock rocks!

www.EminentDomainSucks.com (http://www.EminentDomainSucks.com)

Needa Pass Rush
02-27-2008, 03:39 PM
68,000 post rule! Ha!

How the "L" are ye, Mocky?

Beantown Bronco
02-27-2008, 03:57 PM
68,000 post rule! Ha!

How the "L" are ye, Mocky?

don't hold your breath on a reply. his post is 2 and a half years old!

Meck77
02-27-2008, 04:12 PM
don't hold your breath on a reply. his post is 2 and a half years old!

He's been posting in the maniac discussion forum lately. He's starting to sound like the ole mock more and more these days as a matter of fact.

Needa Pass Rush
02-27-2008, 04:29 PM
don't hold your breath on a reply. his post is 2 and a half years old!

Yes, check him out. He's over in Meck ED thread.

BroncoBuff
02-27-2008, 04:33 PM
don't hold your breath on a reply. his post is 2 and a half years old!
Oh ....

theAPAOps5
02-27-2008, 04:48 PM
Oh ....

Actually he is posting more now. He had another Mock classic regarding the trades in the Should I join the army thread.

theAPAOps5
02-27-2008, 05:01 PM
He's been posting in the maniac discussion forum lately. He's starting to sound like the ole mock more and more these days as a matter of fact.

What is the maniac discussion forum?

Meck77
02-27-2008, 05:18 PM
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/forumdisplay.php?f=43

theAPAOps5
02-27-2008, 05:24 PM
Yeah I am retarded. I knew the answer to that but still it didn't click until you linked it. I always just browse through my User Panel and by hitting New Posts. I rarely look at the forum names!

Meck77
05-09-2011, 11:23 AM
So the government suddenly has 14,000 "extra properties". You can bet that a lot of those were acquired through eminent domain. Now that development has screeched to a halt "They are extra" and unwanted.

It made sense for them to hold it when the properties they took appreciated but uncle sam is busted now! The chinese will probably snap them up once they start dumping them.


http://www.realtor.org/RMODaily.nsf/pages/News2011050604

Daily Real Estate News | May 6, 2011 | Share
Gov't Looks to Reduce Real Estate Inventory
The Obama administration is looking to get rid of 14,000 surplus properties that the federal government owns around the country and is costing taxpayers money to maintain.

The surplus properties include everything from unused roads and empty lots to warehouses and office buildings.

"The government can no longer foot the bill for vacant buildings," says Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, who also has authored a bill to quickly dispose of the government’s surplus property, but without using a special commission as the Obama administration has proposed.

The federal government spent about $134 million to maintain surplus buildings in 2009. The Obama administration says that improving the government’s management of surplus properties stands to save taxpayers $15 billion over several years.

The Obama administration is proposing a special commission be used to handle the surplus property in order to try to sidestep problems that have hindered the sale of these properties in the past. The presidentially-appointed, seven-member Civilian Property Realignment Board would evaluate surplus federal properties and make recommendations to "significantly reduce" the government’s real estate inventory, which ultimately would be voted upon by Congress.

The government believes there are some 12,000 surplus federal properties within the U.S. and about 2,000 overseas. The commission would not deal with military, national security sites, national parks, or wildlife refuges.

Source: “Obama Seeks Special Panel to Unload Federal Real Estate,” McClatchy Newspapers (May 4, 2011)


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BowlenBall
05-09-2011, 11:53 AM
So the government suddenly has 14,000 "extra properties". You can bet that a lot of those were acquired through eminent domain. Now that development has screeched to a halt "They are extra" and unwanted.

It made sense for them to hold it when the properties they took appreciated but uncle sam is busted now! The chinese will probably snap them up once they start dumping them.


http://www.realtor.org/RMODaily.nsf/pages/News2011050604

Daily Real Estate News | May 6, 2011 | Share
Gov't Looks to Reduce Real Estate Inventory
The Obama administration is looking to get rid of 14,000 surplus properties that the federal government owns around the country and is costing taxpayers money to maintain.

The surplus properties include everything from unused roads and empty lots to warehouses and office buildings.

"The government can no longer foot the bill for vacant buildings," says Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, who also has authored a bill to quickly dispose of the government’s surplus property, but without using a special commission as the Obama administration has proposed.

The federal government spent about $134 million to maintain surplus buildings in 2009. The Obama administration says that improving the government’s management of surplus properties stands to save taxpayers $15 billion over several years.

The Obama administration is proposing a special commission be used to handle the surplus property in order to try to sidestep problems that have hindered the sale of these properties in the past. The presidentially-appointed, seven-member Civilian Property Realignment Board would evaluate surplus federal properties and make recommendations to "significantly reduce" the government’s real estate inventory, which ultimately would be voted upon by Congress.

The government believes there are some 12,000 surplus federal properties within the U.S. and about 2,000 overseas. The commission would not deal with military, national security sites, national parks, or wildlife refuges.

Source: “Obama Seeks Special Panel to Unload Federal Real Estate,” McClatchy Newspapers (May 4, 2011)


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Don't they need all those buildings to store the black helicopters?

Beantown Bronco
05-09-2011, 11:56 AM
I think it should become an OMane rule that someone has to bump a random Mock-authored thread every few weeks just to keep everyone on their toes.

BowlenBall
05-09-2011, 11:58 AM
I think it should become an OMane rule that someone has to bump a random Mock-authored thread every few weeks just to keep everyone on their toes.

:thumbsup:

Kind of like he's haunting the place, isn't it?

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/image.php?u=242&dateline=1272959264

Kaylore
05-09-2011, 12:03 PM
I think it should become an OMane rule that someone has to bump a random Mock-authored thread every few weeks just to keep everyone on their toes.

Ha!

pricejj
05-09-2011, 12:16 PM
Just part of the greater scheme to increase revenues of an out of control federal government.

enjolras
05-09-2011, 12:21 PM
Just part of the greater scheme to increase revenues of an out of control federal government.

Yes.. damn those national parks!

DomCasual
05-09-2011, 12:30 PM
I think it should become an OMane rule that someone has to bump a random Mock-authored thread every few weeks just to keep everyone on their toes.

Especially those rare threads with less than one page of responses - the ones that sort of look like new threads. Those are fun for the whole family.

Meck77
05-09-2011, 01:47 PM
I think it should become an OMane rule that someone has to bump a random Mock-authored thread every few weeks just to keep everyone on their toes.

I'm just not real big on starting threads so I usually search the key words I have in mind first. The last two times I did this Mock had the topic covered!

Here is yet another instance were Mock called it. In 2005 he saw the government land grab starting while everyone else was asleep. I'm not suggesting this is all eminent domain property but one has to believe that half if not 75% was taken from the people. Now it's extra. What a bunch of horse shiat.

HILife
05-09-2011, 01:54 PM
Holy crap. This thread scared the crap out of me, until I looked at the date.

HILife
05-09-2011, 01:57 PM
Yes.. damn those national parks!

It's a good "get rich quick" scheme.

TailgateNut
05-09-2011, 01:59 PM
Hey Meck, comments on this? Because JUST the goverment is screwing the public, right?


http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=3180780&postcount=15

pricejj
05-09-2011, 02:06 PM
Yes.. damn those national parks!

National Parks are in purple (a small percentage). Privately owned in white. Almost the entire western part of Colorado is federally owned, with an increasing amount of federally owned land on the eastern plains (notice the odd checkerboard pattern of "State Trust Lands").

elsid13
05-09-2011, 02:42 PM
I'm just not real big on starting threads so I usually search the key words I have in mind first. The last two times I did this Mock had the topic covered!

Here is yet another instance were Mock called it. In 2005 he saw the government land grab starting while everyone else was asleep. I'm not suggesting this is all eminent domain property but one has to believe that half if not 75% was taken from the people. Now it's extra. What a bunch of horse shiat.

Man you are so far off base it's amazing. Most of the properties have come to government by purchase or by USGOV building them. The properties, if you dive down into the map (which is excellent use of Web 2.0), are the result of the WWII/Cold war or some Congressman moving a federal program to their district.

TheReverend
05-09-2011, 02:46 PM
Do you have a link on the prices and locations?

:)

Meck77
05-09-2011, 02:54 PM
Hey Meck, comments on this? Because JUST the goverment is screwing the public, right?


http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=3180780&postcount=15

My thoughts. The government should have let these corrupt institutions FAIL so I'll put the blame right back on uncle sam.

I'd say there is a slight incentive to lock in a low rate right now depending on what your goals are for the property but I'd be damn sure that the property isn't surrounded by a bunch of bad paper just waiting to hit the market. I'm not convinced the bleeding is over or even close to over. There are a lot of people not making payments on properties right now and the banks aren't forcing foreclosure on them. That has to sift itself out. I'm not saying it's a bad time to buy. Hell if someone is renting right now and they can lock in a cheaper mortgage and you plan on being in the home for 7 years or more then that's different.

Our biggest problem right now isn't so much the price of real estate as is the declining value of our dollar. You've read enough of my rant in the war forum on that subject. I don't believe the quantitative easing has had the desired results either. Granted commodities pulled back temporarily it's only temporary. $4.00 or $4.50 cent gas this summer is going to put further pressure on food, real estate, goods/services.

Bottom line is unless you are getting the house for substantially less than the latest comps I wouldn't touch it. I think there is going to be substantial downward pressure well into 2012. I doubt rates will spike that much when the fed does announce an increase (which is inevitable).

Some of the best financial advice I'd ever been given is this. "You don't know what you don't know". If there is more you don't know than you actually know it's best to wait until you know. At this point I'm not sure anyone really knows what is going to happen with the Fed including the fed. I certainly don't see any urgency with home values shooting up anytime soon.

*edit* Oh and the government is about to dump 14,000 properties if that doesn't tell you something.

elsid13
05-09-2011, 02:55 PM
Do you have a link on the prices and locations?

:)

http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/fiscal/excess-property-map

If you are looking for warehouses you are in luck. Most of the **** is in pretty bad shape.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
05-09-2011, 03:39 PM
National Parks are in purple (a small percentage). Privately owned in white. Almost the entire western part of Colorado is federally owned, with an increasing amount of federally owned land on the eastern plains (notice the odd checkerboard pattern of "State Trust Lands").

http://www.thehomeplanet.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/ThatsRacist.gif

/obligatory

ghwk
05-09-2011, 03:43 PM
So the government suddenly has 14,000 "extra properties". You can bet that a lot of those were acquired through eminent domain. Now that development has screeched to a halt "They are extra" and unwanted.



You lost me with that huge bit of CONJECTURE that then leads to a govt. out of control postulation. This thread should have died right there.

epicSocialism4tw
05-09-2011, 03:46 PM
In on the Watermock thread!

gunns
05-09-2011, 04:08 PM
So the government suddenly has 14,000 "extra properties". You can bet that a lot of those were acquired through eminent domain. Now that development has screeched to a halt "They are extra" and unwanted.

It made sense for them to hold it when the properties they took appreciated but uncle sam is busted now! The chinese will probably snap them up once they start dumping them.


http://www.realtor.org/RMODaily.nsf/pages/News2011050604

Daily Real Estate News | May 6, 2011 | Share
Gov't Looks to Reduce Real Estate Inventory
The Obama administration is looking to get rid of 14,000 surplus properties that the federal government owns around the country and is costing taxpayers money to maintain.

The surplus properties include everything from unused roads and empty lots to warehouses and office buildings.

"The government can no longer foot the bill for vacant buildings," says Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, who also has authored a bill to quickly dispose of the government’s surplus property, but without using a special commission as the Obama administration has proposed.

The federal government spent about $134 million to maintain surplus buildings in 2009. The Obama administration says that improving the government’s management of surplus properties stands to save taxpayers $15 billion over several years.

The Obama administration is proposing a special commission be used to handle the surplus property in order to try to sidestep problems that have hindered the sale of these properties in the past. The presidentially-appointed, seven-member Civilian Property Realignment Board would evaluate surplus federal properties and make recommendations to "significantly reduce" the government’s real estate inventory, which ultimately would be voted upon by Congress.

The government believes there are some 12,000 surplus federal properties within the U.S. and about 2,000 overseas. The commission would not deal with military, national security sites, national parks, or wildlife refuges.

Source: “Obama Seeks Special Panel to Unload Federal Real Estate,” McClatchy Newspapers (May 4, 2011)


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Don't know an awful lot about this, but find it interesting and perplexing. But when I see the name Jason Chaffetz, I'd run as fast as I could in the opposite direction. Totally LOONEY TUNES!