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TheReverend
07-27-2005, 03:07 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/2005/07/27/gallery.afc.west/content.1.html

Champ and.... Ashley? I love the guy but Ashley over DJ/Wilson/Pryce/Courtney/Bell? Those SI guys are weird...

Raiders Rock
07-27-2005, 03:41 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/2005/07/27/gallery.afc.west/content.1.html

Champ and.... Ashley? I love the guy but Ashley over DJ/Wilson/Pryce/Courtney/Bell? Those SI guys are weird...

Nuff said

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/2005/07/27/gallery.afc.west/moss.jpg

Hotrod
07-27-2005, 03:44 PM
Nuff said

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/2005/07/27/gallery.afc.west/moss.jpg


Ill start to worry about that mamma's boy after week 1 when Collins throws 3 or 4 picks and he does not come out crying to the media about it.

sirhcyennek81
07-27-2005, 03:45 PM
My guys to watch in the afc west

Denver:
Putzier, Lelie, Bell, Walls

Oakland:
Moss, Curry, Jordan, Sweigert(sp)

Kansas City:
Mitchell, Bell, Knight, Surtain

San Diego:
Merriman, Brees, Caldwell, Gates

WyoLaw
07-27-2005, 03:47 PM
Why do the Raiders have so many players to watch? Robert Gallery and Warren Sapp. Come on! Cecil Sapp has a better chance at a big year than Warren Sapp. Hell so does Bob Sapp. Warren Sapp is finished, through, done!!!

Raiders Rock
07-27-2005, 03:50 PM
Why do the Raiders have so many players to watch? Robert Gallery and Warren Sapp. Come on! Cecil Sapp has a better chance at a big year than Warren Sapp. Hell so does Bob Sapp. Warren Sapp is finished, through, done!!!

The Raiders are going back to 4-3 to put Sapp back to where he can be most effective and to accomidate our slow LBs

Hotrod
07-27-2005, 03:53 PM
The Raiders are going back to 4-3 to put Sapp back to where he can be most effective and to accomidate our slow LBs

The idea is fine but Sapp is sapped at the ripe age of 32. He will be solid at best nothing against him (except his over sized yap)

Raider Bill
07-27-2005, 03:57 PM
Who cares about Sapp, Tommy Kelly badly outplayed him last season.. It's not like the cupboard is bare ,at DT anyway.

Raiders Rock
07-27-2005, 03:57 PM
The idea is fine but Sapp is sapped at the ripe age of 32. He will be solid at best nothing against him (except his over sized yap)



*Yawn*

Hotrod
07-27-2005, 04:00 PM
*Yawn*

Im very disappointed in you RR you usually come over here with something stronger then chef fan smack. tsk tsk

Raider Bill
07-27-2005, 04:02 PM
The Raiders are going back to 4-3 to put Sapp back to where he can be most effective and to accomidate our slow LBs


Who said that? Not anyone from the Raiders. Norv continues to say we'll be "multiple" and photographic evidence from mini camps would suggest otherwise (That looks like a 3-4 to me with Brayton at L OLB looking a bit skinnier.)

http://www.raiders.com/uploads/photos/perm/main/FCGDJDLCIKOG/050105gallery5.jpg

Raiders Rock
07-27-2005, 04:07 PM
Im very disappointed in you RR you usually come over here with something stronger then chef fan smack. tsk tsk


All eyes are on the Raiders this year, you know it like everyone else.

The Raiders are gonna be explosive on offense, nobody even considers that to be a reach.

The reach will be on D, improve to a middle of the pack squad on D and the AFC west will be dominated once again by the team that belongs there .... The Mighty Oakland Raiders

Raider Bill
07-27-2005, 04:09 PM
Here's a quote from a SF Chronicle article that I cant find the original link to. .

It all looks good on paper. But the question remains: Will the Raiders go back to the 3-4 front or will they scrap that plan and revert to the 4-3?

"We get that question every day,'' Turner said during a break in Alameda last week. "And right now, we're working both equally. We want to play both. We want to be multiple. And play both at a high level.''
A year later, Turner said, converted down linemen and pass rushers such as Tyler Brayton and Sam Williams, both of whom will now play linebacker exclusively, should be more in tune with the scheme.
"Those guys have improved markedly in terms of playing in the 3-4. But no question, we do have a comfort level in terms of the 4-3,'' Turner acknowledged.

That much became clear when the Raiders signed former Philadelphia Eagles defensive end Derrick Burgess, who came back strong in 2004 to post 10 tackles (nine solo) and three sacks in the playoffs and Super Bowl XXXIX.

Though Burgess has played linebacker, Turner said he will be used solely as an edge pass rusher at defensive end. "That's where he's at his best,'' the coach said.

With the abundance of multiple-receiver sets the Raiders will see this season, Turner said, Burgess will see plenty of work as a pass rushing end with the nickel defense. Playing opposite a veteran such as Bobby Hamilton also should be a boost for Burgess, who's entering his fifth season.

TheReverend
07-27-2005, 04:10 PM
All eyes are on the Raiders this year, you know it like everyone else.

The Raiders are gonna be explosive on offense, nobody even considers that to be a reach.

The reach will be on D, improve to a middle of the pack squad on D and the AFC west will be dominated once again by the team that belongs there .... The Mighty Oakland Raiders

Your posts are as gay as your avatar. Watch Njibil and try and learn something... he comes in with facts and news and CONTRIBUTES instead of making insane statements about a ****ty team going nowhere.

Tredici
07-27-2005, 04:10 PM
I don't know. First I will have to tear my eyes off all those individual records being set by the Kansas City offense.

I'm kidding. I could care less about either team and their "explosive" offense. I will enjoy watching what happens when they hit explosive defenses though.

Ballhawk
07-27-2005, 04:16 PM
All eyes are on the Chiefs this year, you know it like everyone else.

The Chiefs are gonna be explosive on offense, nobody even considers that to be a reach.

The reach will be on D, improve to a middle of the pack squad on D and the AFC west will be dominated once again by the team that belongs there ....

See you can insert the Chiefs and it is the same thing we heard all last preseason. Just more Chef Smack but from a Fader fan.

Raiders Rock
07-27-2005, 04:23 PM
Here's a quote from a SF Chronicle article that I cant find the original link to. .


I read that too bil, we shall see

Tha rock
07-27-2005, 06:33 PM
I think were running more 4-3, We are better suited for it and I think our FA could make an impact on that!

Jetmeck
07-27-2005, 09:44 PM
All eyes are on the Raiders this year, you know it like everyone else.

The Raiders are gonna be explosive on offense, nobody even considers that to be a reach.

The reach will be on D, improve to a middle of the pack squad on D and the AFC west will be dominated once again by the team that belongs there .... The Mighty Oakland Raiders

Dude,
You got a HUGE question mark at RB and DEFENSE and a brand new coach. Randy Moss across the middle, BOOM, Train WRECK after Lynch lays him out. "Nuff said"

RhymesayersDU
07-27-2005, 09:51 PM
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/2005/07/27/gallery.afc.west/lelie.jpg
THE MAN

RhymesayersDU
07-27-2005, 09:52 PM
Anyways, how is Porter not on this list. He's gunna be a monster with every D focused on Moss.

And not to be a homer, but damnit, how is DJ not on this list? I mean, our LBs are golden, (no pun intended) at least one should be there.

Pat Bowlen
07-27-2005, 09:57 PM
Why is Gallery choking that guy?

DBroncos4life
07-27-2005, 10:01 PM
Why is Gallery choking that guy?


I think the question should be why is Surtian pounding Jackson from behind.

Mr. Trout
07-27-2005, 10:03 PM
Jamal Williams is a freakin beast.

Raider Bill
07-28-2005, 06:16 AM
Dude,
You got a HUGE question mark at RB and DEFENSE and a brand new coach. Randy Moss across the middle, BOOM, Train WRECK after Lynch lays him out. "Nuff said"

Why would Moss run across the middle on Lynch? It'd be much easier to run right past him.

Mediator12
07-28-2005, 06:30 AM
Why would Moss run across the middle on Lynch? It'd be much easier to run right past him.

Come on njbil, the only place Moss will be running to is the Lockerroom by Nov. 13th :militia:

fontaine
07-28-2005, 06:37 AM
Why would Moss run across the middle on Lynch? It'd be much easier to run right past him.

It would be easier to run past him, but only on plays when Moss feels like it!

crazyhorse
07-28-2005, 06:40 AM
Come on njbil, the only place Moss will be running to is the Lockerroom by Nov. 13th :militia:

Quality!

Raider Bill
07-28-2005, 07:11 AM
Why would we send Moss over the middle from the X spot. Curry or Gabriel out of the Y reciever spot are more than sufficient to make the Broncos secondary look inept.

Willynowei
07-28-2005, 07:33 AM
I always had a theory, that the best way to cover moss was not to cover him with a corner at all.

Just play a deepzone with an extra safety and try to send him into a comma once he makes the catch....