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L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-22-2005, 05:38 PM
(Bloomberg) -- Two top White House aides have given accounts to a special prosecutor about how reporters first told them the identity of a CIA agent that are at odds with what the reporters have said, according to people familiar with the case.

Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, told special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald that he first learned from NBC News reporter Tim Russert of the identity of Central Intelligence Agency operative Valerie Plame, the wife of former ambassador and Bush administration critic Joseph Wilson, one person said. Russert has testified before a federal grand jury that he didn't tell Libby of Plame's identity, the person said.

White House Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove told Fitzgerald that he first learned the identity of the CIA agent from syndicated columnist Robert Novak, according a person familiar with the matter. Novak, who was first to report Plame's name and connection to Wilson, has given a somewhat different version to the special prosecutor, the person said.

These discrepancies may be important because Fitzgerald is investigating whether Libby, Rove or other administration officials made false statements during the course of the investigation. The Plame case has its genesis in whether any administration officials violated a 1982 law making it illegal to knowingly reveal the name of a covert intelligence agent.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=an7SakVWGrTQ&refer=us

Traveler
07-23-2005, 05:06 AM
http://www.yubanet.com/artman/publish/article_23080.shtml

Multiple Administration Security Breaches Involving Valerie Plame Wilson
By Rep. Henry Waxman
YubaNet

Friday 22 July 2005
Excerpt:
The disclosure of the covert identity of Valerie Plame Wilson in a July 14, 2003, column by Robert Novak has triggered a criminal investigation and led to calls for congressional investigations. The Novak column, however, appears to be only one of multiple leaks of Ms. Wilson's identity. A new fact sheet released today by Rep. Waxman documents that there appear to be at least 11 separate instances in which Administration officials disclosed information about Ms. Wilson's identity and association with the CIA.

elsid13
07-23-2005, 06:39 AM
Seems to be pattern here, don't like the information or data, attack the source and discredit it. I glad the this White House is omnipotent and omnipresent that does need anyone else to tell the what going on.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-23-2005, 03:28 PM
Seems to be pattern here, don't like the information or data, attack the source and discredit it.

This has been the pattern for the junta (and its supporters) since day one.

Just like an organized crime family.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-23-2005, 03:48 PM
CIA leak investigation turns to possible perjury, obstruction of justice

WASHINGTON — The special prosecutor in the CIA leak investigation has shifted his focus from determining whether White House officials violated a law against exposing undercover agents to determining whether evidence exists to bring perjury or obstruction of justice charges, according to people briefed in recent days on the inquiry's status.

Differences have arisen in witnesses' statements to federal agents and a grand jury about how the name of Valerie Plame, a CIA agent, was leaked to the press two years ago.

According to lawyers familiar with the case, investigators are comparing statements by two top White House aides, Karl Rove and I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, with testimony from reporters who have acknowledged talking to the officials.

Although no one has suggested that the investigation into who leaked Plame's name has been shelved, the intensity of the inquiry into possible perjury charges has increased, according to one lawyer familiar with events who spoke on condition that he not be identified.

Patrick J. Fitzgerald, the special prosecutor, and his team have made no decision on whether to seek indictments.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-leak23jul23,1,7011532.story

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-24-2005, 11:14 PM
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clarker
07-24-2005, 11:20 PM
CIA leak investigation turns to possible perjury, obstruction of justice

WASHINGTON — The special prosecutor in the CIA leak investigation has shifted his focus from determining whether White House officials violated a law against exposing undercover agents to determining whether evidence exists to bring perjury or obstruction of justice charges, according to people briefed in recent days on the inquiry's status.

Differences have arisen in witnesses' statements to federal agents and a grand jury about how the name of Valerie Plame, a CIA agent, was leaked to the press two years ago.

According to lawyers familiar with the case, investigators are comparing statements by two top White House aides, Karl Rove and I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, with testimony from reporters who have acknowledged talking to the officials.

Although no one has suggested that the investigation into who leaked Plame's name has been shelved, the intensity of the inquiry into possible perjury charges has increased, according to one lawyer familiar with events who spoke on condition that he not be identified.

Patrick J. Fitzgerald, the special prosecutor, and his team have made no decision on whether to seek indictments.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-leak23jul23,1,7011532.storyI think they are f.cked.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-24-2005, 11:25 PM
I think they are f.cked.

In a fair and just system, yes, but I'm not going to uncork the champagne just yet.

Even if Rove, Libby, et al, are indicted, Bush will probably just pardon them (just like his dad pardoned the Iran-Contra crooks whose testimony would have sent him and Saint Ron to jail.)

Hope I'm wrong this time.

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L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-24-2005, 11:32 PM
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clarker
07-24-2005, 11:32 PM
In a fair and just system, yes, but I'm not going to uncork the champagne just yet.

Even if Rove, Libby, et al, are indicted, Bush will probably just pardon them (just like his dad pardoned the Iran-Contra crooks whose testimony would have sent him and Saint Ron to jail.)

Hope I'm wrong this time.

http://www.bartcop.com/tr-benerove.gif1You do know that if they are indicted Bush doesn't have to pardon them, right?

2.If he does pardon him I hope he gets paid as much as Clinton did for letting that Rich guy off the hook. Nnyah! Sorry just a little late night humor.

In all seriousness(sp?) I would hope if they are found guilty of a crime that Bush would not give them a pardon, but it wouldn't shock me. It is not just Clinton and the first Bush whose pardons should be looked into. In fact I would bet that is the biggest abuse of power that many Presidents have done, simply because no one really pays close attention to it.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-25-2005, 12:03 AM
1You do know that if they are indicted Bush doesn't have to pardon them, right?

He doesn't have to, but do you think he won't?

If he does pardon him I hope he gets paid as much as Clinton did for letting that Rich guy off the hook.


Ah, Marc Rich - one of Scooter Libby's clients.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-25-2005, 12:29 AM
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L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-25-2005, 07:47 PM
Quotes

"But regardless of the source, the leak compromised the confidential identity of a longtime public servant, which was wrong, and unfair to her and those who worked with her. Whoever did it should come forward and not hide behind journalistic ethics for his or her self-protection."

- Karen Hughes, in her book, before she knew it was Rove and Libby

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/21/AR2005072102567_pf.html

But since her boys got caught, I'm sure she'll change her tune like the Monkey did.

BTW, what do you suppose will happen if Turd Breath and Libby are indicted?

Like father like son?
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