Clarett or DAYNE!!!!!!!!!!! [Archive] - The Orange Mane

Hogan11

07-21-2005, 04:46 PM

I like Dayne's chances here if he gets a real chance that is......but something tells me that he's going to get the same oppertunity to make the team as Mike Quinn did last year.....meaning Dayne can come in and do extremely well in the preseason and it won't make much difference in the end......he'll be cut regardless.

Clarett isn't gonna go anywhere....they're already selling his jersey in the team store afterall thus he's already made the team. Ha!

Disco Man

07-21-2005, 04:46 PM

Is it Dayne or Dane???????

Bronco9798

07-21-2005, 04:47 PM

If MA and TB both stay healthy there is no reason for anyone else to contribute much. TB should be the workhorse and MA should be the short yard guy and the go to guy when TB need a breather.

Tatum needs to carry the rock 23 to 27 times a game. You have to get the kid in a groove and let him get going. If we see that alternating crap like we did with Droughns and Bell last year, I'll puke all over the place.......

Snakebit

07-21-2005, 04:54 PM

Is it Dayne or Dane???????

Dayne

Disco Man

07-21-2005, 04:55 PM

I think that goes to show who will have a bigger role...can't even get the name right!!!!!!

Sir Mawn

07-21-2005, 04:55 PM

Dayne contributing more would be really bad news.

Billy Clyde Puckett

07-21-2005, 04:55 PM

Both make the roster. Dayne has more yards at end of year.

Disco Man

07-21-2005, 04:58 PM

Thank you whoever did that!!!!!

Hogan11

07-21-2005, 05:09 PM

Dayne contributing more would be really bad news.

Just curious here, but why would anyone contributing more to this team be bad news??

SoCalBronco

07-21-2005, 05:11 PM

Just curious here, but why would anyone contributing more to this team be bad news??

I think he means if Dayne is contributing than TB and MA prolly went down with injuries.

Bronco_Beerslug

07-21-2005, 05:12 PM

Neither one hopefully. That would mean Bell or MA got hurt.

OrangeShadow

07-21-2005, 05:12 PM

While neither impress me clarett has much greater upside

Sodak

07-21-2005, 05:18 PM

I don't even care if Dayne makes the team.... ZZZzzzzz...

Actually, I'd rather he didn't.

Soup is Good Food...

Bronco_Beerslug

07-21-2005, 05:19 PM

Dane will get cut.
Q goes Dayne stays but hopefully MA and Bell stay healthy so he doesn't see a lot of snaps. If he does and there are no injuries it means he REALLY came on.

Hogan11

07-21-2005, 05:19 PM

I think he means if Dayne is contributing than TB and MA prolly went down with injuries.
Never considered injuries really (I guess I was thinking positive there Ha!)....it really doesn't matter because I don't expect he'll get a real chance in Denver anyways

Broncoman13

07-21-2005, 05:22 PM

Who will have more of an inpact for the Broncos this year???? Mr. Clarett or Mr. Dane? Let's hear it orangemane..................

Depends on injuries. I happen to thing that Dayne could be a very good fit in our offense. If you remember back to last year vs the Chefs he was running wild and showed some pretty good burst and speed. I think he had like an 80 yard gain in that game. It was a preseason game but he showed enough in that game to give me an idea of his burst and speed. I know, I know, running around or by a Queef defender is about the same as running by a parked car but I saw something in him.

That's the good news... the bad news is that Clarett is younger, better, and most likely the #3. I see more for MoC than Dayne. If somebody goes down with an injury it will get interesting.

ozomulsion

07-21-2005, 05:22 PM

Dayne is a bust.

SoCalBronco

07-21-2005, 05:23 PM

Go Maurice!

Sodak

07-21-2005, 05:26 PM

Dayne is a bust.

Ozo, you liked Hearst last year, why not Dayne this?

It seems like the same deal to me.

Bronco9798

07-21-2005, 06:19 PM

Go Maurice!

IN-ACTIVE for 16 weeks.......Or a strange injury that puts him on the IR for the year. Something like Fat-Belly-Itis!!!

SoCalBronco

07-21-2005, 06:21 PM

IN-ACTIVE for 16 weeks.......Or a strange injury that puts him on the IR for the year. Something like Fat-Belly-Itis!!!

Maurice will help us in short yardage and in the red zone this year. He'll be active for quite a few games.

Bronco9798

07-21-2005, 06:25 PM

Maurice will help us in short yardage and in the red zone this year. He'll be active for quite a few games.

Maybe next year, not this year..Here's a guy that hasn't touched a football in two years, played one year of college, is still not in footbal shape, and is competing with guys with NFL experience and you think he will contribute this year? I don't....

Broncoman13

07-21-2005, 06:29 PM

I do, I think he'll be a valuable part of our team... wouldn't suprise me a bit to see him come in as the #2 RB on the team by seasons end.

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun

07-21-2005, 06:38 PM

Guys Dayne's real competition isn't from Clarett. Shananhan drafted a risky pick in Clarett and cutting him now would prove to everybody that Shananhan made a mistake. So Clarett won't be the one to be cut. You now what I'll give Rep to the person that guess's the person that Dayne is really competiting for.

Bronco9798

07-21-2005, 06:39 PM

I do, I think he'll be a valuable part of our team... wouldn't suprise me a bit to see him come in as the #2 RB on the team by seasons end.

BM, what's up man? You know my take on Clarett. I think he needs this year to learn and get in shape. No contribution.

Bronco9798

07-21-2005, 06:39 PM

SoCalBronco

07-21-2005, 06:43 PM

Q will prolly get a roster spot due to Shanny homerism.

Bronco9798

07-21-2005, 06:45 PM

Shanny loves Q. Bowlen loves Q. Shanny will find a spot for Q. I do believe that...

SoCalBronco

07-21-2005, 06:47 PM

Tatum, Sarge, Big Mo and Q will make it. Dayne gets cut.

Bronco_Beerslug

07-21-2005, 06:50 PM

Tatum, Sarge, Big Mo and Q will make it. Dayne gets cut.
I don't think so. Q won't even be healthy yet. Even if he is he doesn't beat out Dayne. The guy is just too small.

SoCalBronco

07-21-2005, 06:52 PM

I don't think so. Q won't even be healthy yet. Even if he is he doesn't beat out Dayne. The guy is just too small.

I know he is too small and is just coming off the ACL but Shanny is a homer for him, he'll find a way to get him in. He had him ahead of Maurice on the depth chart in the last camp even though Q had just barely gotten back on the field.

Bronco_Beerslug

07-21-2005, 06:58 PM

I know he is too small and is just coming off the ACL but Shanny is a homer for him, he'll find a way to get him in. He had him ahead of Maurice on the depth chart in the last camp even though Q had just barely gotten back on the field.
Yeah but you know that depth charts before training camp are only showing who the new guys are and the team veterans are (generally speaking), I don't think Shanahan homers Q because this is year that he really wants (and NEEDS) to win a playoff game.

FADERPROOF

07-21-2005, 07:09 PM

Dayne, just anyone with a pulse other than Clarett.

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun

07-21-2005, 07:19 PM

Q

Nope and thats to much a hint.

footstepsfrom#27

07-21-2005, 08:05 PM

Dayne. Clarrett hasn't suited up since...when? Neither one will see the field unless there are injuries to both Bell and Anderson.

SoCalBronco

07-21-2005, 08:07 PM

Dayne, just anyone with a pulse other than Clarett.

"Faderproof is back for another great year of rookie reports. Maners get a real treat reading about the meteoric rise of our latest ROY RB-Maurice Clarett."

:devil:

Bronco9798

07-21-2005, 08:09 PM

"Faderproof is back for another great year of rookie reports. Maners get a real treat reading about the meteoric rise of our latest ROY RB-Maurice Clarett."

:devil:

ROY - Now that's hilarious. Again, INACTIVE.......As he stands on the sidelines in his civi's watching the game...... Knowitall

SoCalBronco

07-21-2005, 08:11 PM

ROY - Now that's hilarious. Again, INACTIVE.......As he stands on the sidelines in his civi's watching the game...... Knowitall

You clearly didnt get the purpose of the post. It has nothing to do with predicting Maurice as the ROY winner.

FADERPROOF

07-21-2005, 08:11 PM

"Faderproof is back for another great year of rookie reports. Maners get a real treat reading about the meteoric rise of our latest ROY RB-Maurice Clarett."

:devil:

...then SoCalBronco woke up :)

Bronco9798

07-21-2005, 08:12 PM

You clearly didnt get the purpose of the post. It has nothing to do with predicting Maurice as the ROY winner.

yes I know,,,I was poking fun cause I knew you weren't serious. :-)

SoCalBronco

07-21-2005, 08:17 PM

If it wasnt for Maurice, id be totally pissed off on draft night. As it was I was only 70 percent pissed off.

Bronco9798

07-21-2005, 08:19 PM

The Clarett pick made me sick personally. It still does...lol....

FADERPROOF

07-21-2005, 08:20 PM

If it wasnt for Maurice, id be totally pissed off on draft night. As it was I was only 70 percent pissed off.

I was a tad pissed, put a hole in my wall, busted my knuckles up from doing so, and broke my toe when kicking the wall after I punched a hole in it.

SoCalBronco

07-21-2005, 08:21 PM

The Clarett pick made me sick personally. It still does...lol....

I love that kid. I was so happy to get him.

Crushaholic

07-21-2005, 08:22 PM

IMO, Q will have NOTHING to contribute to this team. His durability as an every down back is in serious question, and we drafted Darrent Williams to return kicks. Q has no place on this team, no matter how much of a fan Shanahan has been of Q. I say that both Dayne and Clarett make the team and Q looks for work elsewhere.

Clockwork Orange

07-21-2005, 08:23 PM

I don't think so. Q won't even be healthy yet. Even if he is he doesn't beat out Dayne. The guy is just too small.

So is Ian Gold (or as some around here call him Ian Gold), yet he just got $8 million.

Bronco9798

07-21-2005, 08:24 PM

I love that kid. I was so happy to get him.

Don't get me wrong. If he plays, I hope he does well and can contributes if it helps us win ballgames. But, I will only pull for him 3 hours a week when he plays. Who knows, he might grow on me if sticks around, keeps a good attitude and proves he was worth the pick. I'm not sold on him yet though.

SoCalBronco

07-21-2005, 08:24 PM

So is Ian Gold (or as some around here call him Ian Gold), yet he just got $8 million.

Who knows. Q is going to be a FA i believe after this season. Maybe we will give him an 8.5 million dollar check to sign too. It wouldnt surprise me. :)

"Yeayy, i just resigned Q, Yeayyy"
uh Billy.....

DivineLegion

07-21-2005, 08:45 PM

Ozo, you liked Hearst last year, why not Dayne this?

It seems like the same deal to me.

I think I can awnser taht one for the OZ man...Hearst was a proven back who had sucsess in the NFL...Dayne has nothing to show for his career

Broncoman13

07-21-2005, 08:57 PM

BM, what's up man? You know my take on Clarett. I think he needs this year to learn and get in shape. No contribution.

What's up brah... I know your take on him. I just happen to see a few things in MoC that make me think he will be very successful in Denver. Remember you heard it hear first. Tatum better watch his back, if he goes down he will have a hard time getting his starting spot back from Mo!

If MA makes the team it will be b/c he can play both HB and FB. I really see both MoC and Tatum moving in front of him in due time. MoC can do everything that MA can plus he catches the ball well.

DarkHorse

07-21-2005, 08:59 PM

Clarrett - hope he proves me wrong by being a good soldier for us. Also hope he has grown up some which will lead to him making better decisions as a person and player.

footstepsfrom#27

07-21-2005, 10:21 PM

So is Ian Gold (or as some around here call him Ian Gold), yet he just got $8 million.
I think we should groom Ian Gold to take over the strong safety spot from Lynch and next year start him and possibly Browner if he shows he can do it. That would give us a nice set up.

SoCalBronco

07-21-2005, 10:24 PM

I think we should groom Ian Gold to take over the strong safety spot from Lynch and next year start him and possibly Browner if he shows he can do it. That would give us a nice set up.

Our coaches are too big of pussies to say no to Ian on anything. He'd start whining like a little fag and throw a hissy fit and they'd say ok, you can stay where you are.

Rausch

07-22-2005, 12:34 AM

I'm a Phat-back fan.

I vote Dayne...

Traveler

07-22-2005, 07:02 AM

Bronco_Beerslug

07-22-2005, 07:07 AM

Broncos RB's for 2005:

Bell
MA (can play two positions); makes Dayne expendable
MoC
Johnson
Sapp

Q never fully recovers from surgery and gets put on IR
Dayne gets cut since he can only contribute at RB. No contribution on ST also strike against him.

BTW, Ultimate-

Dayne is competing against Sapp

Sapp is playing FB.

RB
Bell
Mike Anderson
Dayne
Clarett

FB
Johnson
Sapp

Atlas

07-22-2005, 07:11 AM

I think Dayne has an upfield battle ahead of him. That being said I think Denver's offense is tailor made for Dayne. He is a good cut back runner and if Denver's Oline gets him enough room to get a full head of steam he could be very productive. But at best I see him buried in the depth chart.

fontaine

07-22-2005, 07:12 AM

The only competition Dayne wins out among the RBs is who gets to the buffet table first.

He's so cut.

Traveler

07-22-2005, 07:13 AM

Sapp is playing FB.

RB
Bell
Mike Anderson
Dayne
Clarett

FB
Johnson
Sapp

I know. My thinking is the team will try to find a way to keep an extra WR, TE, DLman, or Ernstner.

Only way to do so is make cut at RB. Which makes Dayne expendable. Sapp also helps on ST. Dayne doesn't.

baja

07-22-2005, 07:14 AM

Our coaches are too big of pussies to say no to Ian on anything. He'd start whining like a little fag and throw a hissy fit and they'd say ok, you can stay where you are.

For a reasonable guy you are sure over the top on this Gold thing.

Sodak

07-22-2005, 08:11 AM

I think I can awnser taht one for the OZ man...Hearst was a proven back who had sucsess in the NFL...Dayne has nothing to show for his career

Agreed,

But Hearst was done before he got here. Empty tank. No mas, nada, listo man.

Dayne has the potential to do something, if he can only get his sh*t together. Although I doubt he will...

jonny1

07-22-2005, 08:22 AM

Dayne was a bust in New York, but a change of scenery can do amazing things sometimes . . .

Remember a backup named Priest Holmes?

Atlas

07-22-2005, 08:22 AM

Dayne was a bust in New York, but a change of scenery can do amazing things sometimes . . .

Remember a backup named Priest Holmes?

Tyronne Wheatley too

Billy Clyde Puckett

07-22-2005, 08:27 AM

Yep - They didn't bring in Dayne for camp fodder. He makes the team if his head is on straight. Sorry to say but Sapp is a goner. FB on plays 1/3 or less of plays and MA is the backup if Johnson gets hurt with Hape hanging on another year as the emergency guy due to his versatility.

OrangeShadow

07-22-2005, 09:17 AM

Dayne was a bust in New York, but a change of scenery can do amazing things sometimes . . .

Remember a backup named Priest Holmes?

impying dayne can be the next priest is ludacris. besides he shouldnt get time with bell tehre

jonny1

07-22-2005, 11:12 AM

impying dayne can be the next priest is ludacris. besides he shouldnt get time with bell tehre

I'm not implying anything, merely stating a fact.

baja

07-22-2005, 11:49 AM

impying dayne can be the next priest is ludacris. besides he shouldnt get time with bell tehre

Why?

ozomulsion

07-22-2005, 12:20 PM

Ozo, you liked Hearst last year, why not Dayne this?

It seems like the same deal to me.

SAY WHAT????
Hearst is nearing the end his career. I never argued that. I've been a fan of his for 17 years... I sure wasn't going to end my support, of my favorite player, just because his career is nearing an end. Hearst has rushed for a thousand yards every year he has been healthy except for two (96) when he gained (847)yards after taking over for Ki-Jana Carter in week 5 and (2002) when he gained (972) yards splitting carries with Barlow. Dayne has missed 2 games throughout his 4 year career and had a max of 770 yards (3.4YPC) yards in his best season and never averaged more than 3.8YPC in a season. It sure doesn't seem like the same deal to me.

DB-Freak

07-22-2005, 12:55 PM

Tyronne Wheatley too
Ummm....Holmes was not a bust or should he be compared to Dayne.

Holmes was just unlucky a premiere back like Lewis came in.

Drek

07-22-2005, 01:09 PM

My bet:
RB
Bell
Anderson
Q
Clarett
FB:
Johnson
Sapp

Here's how it works out:
Bell is the starter, 20+ carries guy. Anderson is our short yardage/change of pace guy. Should see at least 5-10 carries a game. Clarett basically is going to take the year off while Turner and the fitness staff tear him down and rebuild him, but will see some pre-season action as well as some late '05 carries, but short of a Bell meltdown (which I don't expect) he doesn't tote the rock more than 30 times.

Why Q over Dayne? Because Q has proven himself more in our system. Dayne is a timid Mike Anderson with a pot belly. He can run if he's given the blocking, but then as we've shown so can many other guys.
Q stays because he's got speed, hands, and moves. He's got value to us as someone to throw into the KR/PR mix, as well as being a quality recieving/change of pace back. I was a big Q fan last off-season and I still like the guy. He's our only fast 'back outside of Tatum, I don't see the coaching staff leaving us with no potential homerun threat should Bell go down. I think the ACL tear might have ruined him as a guy who could see significant carries, but I think we'll see him as a positive contributor this season.

For FB Johnson obviously is the starter coming back with no real competition. Sapp I think beats out Miree just because he strikes me as a more physical guy, and FB is going to be a bruiser role on our team in '05. Regardless, the real #2 FB is Anderson, unless Bell goes down and Clarett and Q both look real bad.

Honestly, I'm hoping we put some talented guys on the practice squad because we might see every RB on our opening day roster miss games, they've all got injury questions.

MajikMan7

07-22-2005, 01:27 PM

Well let me map it out for you.

Sep 11 @Miami 1:00pm~W~ Dayne 53 yds 0 tds (tatum starts)
Sep 18 San Diego 4:15pm~W~ Dayne 12 yds 0 tds (Tatum starts)
Sep 26 Kansas City 9:00pm~W~ Dayne 48 yds 1 tds (Tatum starts)
Oct 2 @Jacksonville 1:00pm~L~ Dayne 69 yds 1 tds (Tatum starts/gets inj)
Oct 9 Washington 4:15pm~W- Dayne 134 yds 2 tds
Oct 16 New England 4:15pm~L~ Dayne 94 yds 0 tds
Oct 23 @N.Y. Giants 4:15pm~W~ Dayne 157 yds 3 tds
Oct 30 Philadelphia 4:15pm~L~ Dayne 102 yds 1 tds
Week 9 BYE
Nov 13 @Oakland 4:05pm~W~ Dayne 114 yds 0 tds
Nov 20 N.Y. Jets 4:15pm~W~ Dayne 79 yds 1 tds
Nov 24 @Dallas 4:15pm~W~ Dayne 112 yds 0 tds
Dec 4 @Kansas City 4:15pm~W~ Dayne 123 yds 2 tds
Dec 11 Baltimore 4:15pm~L- Dayne 74 yds 0 tds
Dec 17 @Buffalo 8:30pm~L~ Dayne 89 yds 0 tds
Dec 24 Oakland 4:15pm~W~ Dayne 115 yds 1 tds
Dec 31 @San Diego 4:30pm~L~ Dayne 104 1 tds

Broncos 10-6

Ron Dayne 1479 yds 13 tds...............Clarett non factor

ozomulsion

07-22-2005, 01:36 PM

Dayne was a bust in New York, but a change of scenery can do amazing things sometimes . . .

Remember a backup named Priest Holmes?

I remember a guy named Priest Holmes who had a 1000 yard rushing season for the ravens. The year after that he played in only 9 games (starting only 4) and had almost 600 yards rushing while averaging 5.7 YPC (Dayne never averaged more than 3.8 YPC in a season. Holmes was a bust before the Chiefs signed him? I think not.

MajikMan7

07-22-2005, 01:38 PM

Dayne will reign. Don't worry about it. Cuz I'm not.

DB-Freak

07-22-2005, 01:40 PM

I remember a guy named Priest Holmes who had a 1000 yard rushing season for the ravens. The year after that he played in only 9 games (starting only 4) and had almost 600 yards rushing while averaging 5.7 YPC (Dayne never averaged more than 3.8 YPC in a season. Holmes was a bust before the Chiefs signed him? I think not.

Exactly. Can't believe they would compare him to priest holmes.

I have nothing against Dayne, but he is nothing but Back material unless he takes it to the next level.

Rascal

07-22-2005, 01:41 PM

Dane or Q will be cut depending on camp.

MajikMan7

07-22-2005, 01:44 PM

Exactly. Can't believe they would compare him to priest holmes.

I have nothing against Dayne, but he is nothing but Back material unless he takes it to the next level.

Dayne will take it to the next level. This is his last chance, and he's gonna make the most out of it. Even though I doubt he'll get a fair shot.

jonny1

07-22-2005, 02:57 PM

Sodak

07-22-2005, 02:57 PM

SAY WHAT????
Hearst is nearing the end his career. I never argued that. I've been a fan of his for 17 years... I sure wasn't going to end my support, of my favorite player, just because his career is nearing an end. Hearst has rushed for a thousand yards every year he has been healthy except for two (96) when he gained (847)yards after taking over for Ki-Jana Carter in week 5 and (2002) when he gained (972) yards splitting carries with Barlow. Dayne has missed 2 games throughout his 4 year career and had a max of 770 yards (3.4YPC) yards in his best season and never averaged more than 3.8YPC in a season. It sure doesn't seem like the same deal to me.

Agreed. I know how it is. I wanted your take.

Thanks.

DBroncos4life

07-22-2005, 03:20 PM

I think it would be fair to wait tell we see them in action first. This system was made for Dayne and his style. Q if healthy is still only a scat back and we don't use backs like that. MA is 32 years old and not getting younger. Clarett hasn't been hit by a NFL LB yet and its been two years since he has been hit by any LB period. It really doesn't matter because Bell is going to play the full year anyways :)

ozomulsion

07-22-2005, 05:12 PM

Come on, lighten up. I'm not saying Dayne and Holmes are the same, I'm comparing their situations. Dayne had some good games in NY, as Holmes did in Balt.

Did anybody think Priest Holmes was going to be one of the top 3 backs in the league when he signed with KC?

Dayne is now in a system that fits his strong points. All I am saying is that to dismiss him and say he has no chance because of what he did in NY is a little short-sighted.

Let's see what happens in camp, for crying out loud.

Holmes' talent was apparent from the start. Nothing changes the fact that he had a 1000 yard season to his credit long before he went to K.C. He was in competion with Jamal Lewis for christ sake. Or he would be the Ravens main man as we speak. Not similer situations at all.

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun

07-22-2005, 06:36 PM

Broncos RB's for 2005:

Bell
MA (can play two positions); makes Dayne expendable
MoC
Johnson
Sapp

Q never fully recovers from surgery and gets put on IR
Dayne gets cut since he can only contribute at RB. No contribution on ST also strike against him.

BTW, Ultimate-

Dayne is competing against Sapp

Nope, Sapp is a FB and they said that Dayne was brought in as a RB. Second Sapp is still practice squad eligable and can keep keep Sapp and Dayne.

Cito Pelon

07-22-2005, 11:19 PM

watermock

07-22-2005, 11:58 PM

Whatever. Dayne doesn't have half the vision of Mo.

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun

07-23-2005, 12:08 AM

Whatever. Dayne doesn't have half the vision of Mo.

You sound pretty sure even through Mo hasn't touched a ball in a real game in over 2 years.

jonny1

07-23-2005, 12:29 PM

Holmes' talent was apparent from the start. Nothing changes the fact that he had a 1000 yard season to his credit long before he went to K.C. He was in competion with Jamal Lewis for christ sake. Or he would be the Ravens main man as we speak. Not similer situations at all.

Dayne won the Heisman, drafted in the first round (so somebody thought his talent was apparent, when was Holmes drafted?), had 770 yards one year in a system that didn't suit him, and was in competition with Tiki Barber for Christ sake. And that isn't similar?

Okay, you hate Dayne, but take off the blinders and acknowledge the POSSIBILITY that he might flourish here.

Will he? I don't know, and you sure as h3!! don't know either.

Dukes

07-23-2005, 12:54 PM

I'll probably get torched for saying this, but I wouldn't be suprised one bit if MO is the starter by the end of the year. (IF Bell gets injured)

Atlas

07-23-2005, 01:05 PM

I'll probably get torched for saying this, but I wouldn't be suprised one bit if MO is the starter by the end of the year. (IF Bell gets injured)

You know it wouldn't shock me if Clarret took over after game 5 or so. It's typical Shanny. It could happen.

Crushaholic

07-23-2005, 03:40 PM

You know it wouldn't shock me if Clarett took over after game 5 or so. It's typical Shanny. It could happen.

It all depends on his attitude and work ethic. If Clarett does what the coaches say and doesn't gripe, it's entirely possible. Think of the publicity that would generate... :Broncos:

broncoback

07-25-2005, 09:31 AM

Put Clarett on the Giants and he wouldn't have had any more success than Dayne.

Nothing wrong with Dayne. 3.8 ypc with the Giants isn't too shabby. Barber has a 4.5 YPC avg with the same Giant team, so I wouldn't say Dayne is a total bust.

No other running back in this league would have success running the ball with the New York Giants when Dayne was there because the Giants' O-Line is a "finesse" O-line catered to Barber's running skills. The only other backs that would have any success with the Giants is maybe Warrick Dunn or Westbrook from Philly. Much worse was the fact that they played Ron Dayne as a sub back which is not his game and ran him in from the bench with plays to relieve Barber? Go figure! Besides, every time Dayne ran the ball, opposing defenses put 8 or more men in the box and the entire country new the exact play and where Dayne was going to run. None of this would have mattered if Dayne was their primary ballcarrier and if the offense was based on this premise. No defense is going to put 8 men in the box on every down even if Dayne was the every down, featured back.

bendog

07-25-2005, 09:40 AM

How decent a FB is Sapp? I think a lot hinges on that. IF MA is back, and IF dayne has any real ability, then that could make some moves possible. Sapp can make it through waivers to be on the PS. Merlot cannot. So, Merlot will have to make the squad and take up a slot. Q, if he's sound, makes a decent 3rd down back, which is a role neither MA, Dayne nor Merlot can fill (ie they are too slow to outrun linebackers in the flats.)

tater, dayne, merlot and q. Johnson at fb. Sapp backing up both from the ps.

or tater, MA, merlot and one of q or dayne.