Ahem.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

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[Cleo McDowell]

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[Clockwork Orange]

You were 7-9 last year Bob, you're missing more than just one piece.

Keep drinking the Kool-Aid though, it's Chef fans like you that have kept Carl Peterson employed this long. For that, we're all grateful. :thumbsup:

[Bob's your Information Minister]

You were 7-9 last year Bob, you're missing more than just one piece.


Bah. The last few years have proven the previous year's record gives zero indication of how a team will do in the upcoming season.

[Taco John]

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[Clockwork Orange]

Bah. The last few years have proven the previous year's record gives zero indication of how a team will do in the upcoming season.

And your predictions have historically proven to be worth less than a squirt of ant piss.

I guess we'll have to see what happens when they actually play the games.

[DBroncos4life]

Bah. The last few years have proven the previous year's record gives zero indication of how a team will do in the upcoming season.



but a picture of a puzzle with one missing peace and the word Defense tell the whole story doesn't it bob. Thank god for you bob because without you there wouldn't be a need for the horse's butt.

[wabbit]

Bah. The last few years have proven the previous year's record gives zero indication of how a team will do in the upcoming season.


Yeah, I know what you mean. Those Patriots really fell on hard times after that fluke Super Bowl, huh...

[Bob's your Information Minister]

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Touche.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Yeah, I know what you mean. Those Patriots really fell on hard times after that fluke Super Bowl, huh...

How about after their first SB, genius? OK maybe not ZERO indiciation but it's certainly not a tell-all.

[Taco John]

Bah. The last few years have proven the previous year's record gives zero indication of how a team will do in the upcoming season.



What would give you that idea?

When you guys went 13-3, your performance in December told me that you guys weren't good enough to get past round one of the playoffs. Then when you guys had a tougher schedule, it was pretty easy to predict that you guys were going to go 9-7 based on what you had done the year previous. Now you've got a defense of guys thrown together from all parts of the league... One of them an impact player and the rest a bunch of cast offs and role players... Add to that an aging offense that has always had a questionable passing game due to lack of depth at WR, but manages to get by due to the unbelievable amount of time your quarterback has to throw. There are more questions in KC than just defense.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

questionable passing game

ROFL!

You cannot be serious! We've been a top 10 passing team every year Vermeil's been here! Top 2 the last two seasons!

Anyway....Ravens, Rams, etc. Just because we went 7-9 does NOT mean we can't win it all next year.

[DBroncos4life]

What would give you that idea?

When you guys went 13-3, your performance in December told me that you guys weren't good enough to get past round one of the playoffs. Then when you guys had a tougher schedule the year prior, it was pretty easy to predict that you guys were going to go 9-7 based on what you had done the year previous. Now you've got a defense of guys thrown together from all parts of the league... One of them an impact player and the rest a bunch of cast offs and role players... Add to that an aging offense that has always had a questionable passing game due to lack of depth at WR, but manages to get by due to the unbelievable amount of time your quarterback has to throw. There are more questions in KC than just defense.

Well they did get Hakim the best slot Wr in the NFL. He RIPPED the NFL a new one when he played with Dick4meal's before. Oh wait this just in he used KC to get a higher contract else where making him the 598 player to do so over the last three years.

[Taco John]

ROFL!

You cannot be serious! We've been a top 10 passing team every year Vermeil's been here! Top 2 the last two seasons!

Anyway....Ravens, Rams, etc. Just because we went 7-9 does NOT mean we can't win it all next year.


I'm dead serious. Indeed you guys have miraculously put up numbers, given your weak receiving corps. But someday the fact that you have no talent at WR is going to catch up to you. This might as well be that year.

[Clockwork Orange]

Anyway....Ravens, Rams, etc. Just because we went 7-9 does NOT mean we can't win it all next year.

By that logic any fan of any team who was within shouting distance of .500 can make the same claim.

The fact remains that the Chefs aren't in the same class with New England, Pittsburgh & Indy. Neither are the Broncos. We're all aspiring to reach that level, but until they achieve that status on the field, it's meaningless banter to claim otherwise. But it is the offseason, knock yourself out.

Spare me the "on paper we look better than (insert team here)" line. On paper there are several teams that have looked better than the Pats over the last 4 years.....yet they've had 3 championship parades in that time span while everyone other than Tampa have had none. So much for teams that look good on paper.

[wabbit]

How about after their first SB, genius? OK maybe not ZERO indiciation but it's certainly not a tell-all.

Well thank you 'Bob, although I see myself as only extremely mentally gifted.

I can say, however, I don't depend on my Dad to deliver stat sheets & news and I certainly don't sit around and wonder what Mom is cooking for dinner.

You see, if you look beyond you muddled little world of football books & video games, you might actually understand why others have points of view outside of your own.

You offer no insight. You are no authority on anything. You see 'Bob...you're a no-body...who has awful lot to say about nothin'.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I'm dead serious. Indeed you guys have miraculously put up numbers, given your weak receiving corps. But someday the fact that you have no talent at WR is going to catch up to you. This might as well be that year.

Dream on. We've only gotten better in the passing game every year.

As long was we have Green, Gonzalez and Holmes, our passing game will be just fine.

[Taco John]

As long as Roaf and Shields hold up, your passing game will be fine... If one of them goes, Trent become TrINT again, and that's all she wrote...

[Clockwork Orange]

Dream on. We've only gotten better in the passing game every year.

As long was we have Green, Gonzalez and Holmes, our passing game will be just fine.

Funny how you completely omit the Chefs O-line, the group that deserves the most credit for the success of said passing game.

I know you need to feel good about the glamor positions, but try to be realistic.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Well thank you 'Bob, although I see myself as only extremely mentally gifted.

I can say, however, I don't depend on my Dad to deliver stat sheets & news and I certainly don't sit around and wonder what Mom is cooking for dinner.

You see, if you look beyond you muddled little world of football books & video games, you might actually understand why others have points of view outside of your own.

You offer no insight. You are no authority on anything. You see 'Bob...you're a no-body...who has awful lot to say about nothin'.

Look out! Here comes wabbit with the personal attacks now that his argument has been reduced to ashes. :unamused:

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Funny how you completely omit the Chefs O-line, the group that deserves the most credit for the success of said passing game.

I know you need to feel good about the glamor positions, but try to be realistic.

That goes without saying. They've started so many consecutive games together we take them for granted.

And I'd say Gonzalez is more important to our passing game than any other player, personally.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

As long as Roaf and Shields hold up, your passing game will be fine... If one of them goes, Trent become TrINT again, and that's all she wrote...

And since the chances of BOTH of those guys going down is about as likely as Jake Plummer making the pro bowl....yes, we'll post 4,000 yards again.

[Taco John]

And since the chances of BOTH of those guys going down is about as likely as Jake Plummer making the pro bowl....yes, we'll post 4,000 yards again.


Who said both needed to go down?


"If one of them goes down..."

[DBroncos4life]

And since the chances of BOTH of those guys going down is about as likely as Jake Plummer making the pro bowl....yes, we'll post 4,000 yards again.



Won't be that high when Shields retires this year.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Who said both needed to go down?

Neither will go down.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Won't be that high when Shields retires this year.

Shields already committed to coming back this year. So sorry. ;D

[Clockwork Orange]

And since the chances of BOTH of those guys going down is about as likely as Jake Plummer making the pro bowl....yes, we'll post 4,000 yards again.

4000 yards you say? You mean the number that the aforementioned Jake Plummer exceeded last year as well? :wiggle:

[DBroncos4life]

Shields already committed to coming back this year. So sorry. ;D



Oh I guess there is no chance that he could EVER change his mind then huh?

[Taco John]

Neither will go down.



That's not what I heard from Johnny Morton...

[SoCalBronco]

And since the chances of BOTH of those guys going down is about as likely as Jake Plummer making the pro bowl....yes, we'll post 4,000 yards again.

Its not so much about whether any of them goes down due to a specific injury, its more so whether age starts to really take its toll even when they are healthy and playing. Roaf and Shields are in their mid 30s Bob, there is a significant possibility that their game will start to really decline.

[wabbit]

My argument is only that you are a frequent annoyance who starts threads empty of any substance whatsoever for the sole purpose of "LOOK AT MEEEEEE"

If you want to continue being the court jester here, that's your business, but in making arguments of any merit, it helps if the one delivering them are right on more than just an occassional basis.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Oh I guess there is no chance that he could EVER change his mind then huh?

I'd bet $100 that he doesn't retire, how's that? :unamused:

[Bob's your Information Minister]

That's not what I heard from Johnny Morton...

Yeah, we got rid of him, too. We've been tying up ALL the loose ends this offseason. ;D

[DBroncos4life]

I'd bet $100 that he doesn't retire, how's that? :unamused:


Thats fine and then the day that he does retire you can send me cash, I won't trust a check from you. It might not be this year or the next but someday he will retire. Thanks for throwing in a time frame.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Thats fine and then the day that he does retire you can send me cash, I won't trust a check from you. It might not be this year or the next but someday he will retire. Thanks for throwing in a time frame.

You know what I mean. Anyway, Shields is going nowhere. Are you seriously holding out hope he might quit? He's no Eddie Kennison. ;D

[Sarcastro]

I'm dead serious. Indeed you guys have miraculously put up numbers, given your weak receiving corps. But someday the fact that you have no talent at WR is going to catch up to you. This might as well be that year.

It sure is amazing how our fluke passing game manages to be dominant year after year without a TO or Marvin Harrison. Hopefully our great O-line, great pass catching RBs, great TEs, a very good QB and decent WRs will allow us to slip through the cracks and have a top two passing offense again this year.

Also, "Might as well" is not really a very strong argument. When you consider all the weapons we have on offense it isn't miraculous that our passing offense is strong. You don't need Randy Moss to be able to pass. We "might as well" continue to be dominant passing the ball. We have been for four years straight, so we "might as well" keep it up. Hell, Considering how much talent we have, this might as well be the season we go 19-0 defeating the Eagles 63-2 in the SB.

[Crushaholic]

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In order to make that puzzle more accurate, you have to tear out more pieces. Most people would agree that there are three phases of a football game: offense, defense, and special teams. Therefore, you would have to cut out 1/3 of the puzzle to make your point of the defense being the missing ingredient. If you do that, the puzzle looks vastly different. Add to that the fraying, worn, and aging edges of the offensive pieces and the Chefs are in more trouble than you think. Now, run along to the Planet where you can get into deep discussions about certain parts of the male anatomy in great detail...

[Taco John]

Now, run along to the Planet where you can get into deep discussions about certain parts of the male anatomy in great detail...



heh... I never understand that... Whenever someone complains about some of the crap that gets posted here, all I need to do is send them a link to one of these threads here (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=119033).