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Spider
06-30-2005, 08:46 AM
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/viewstory.asp?Page=%5CForeignBureaus%5Carchive%5C2 00506%5CFOR20050630a.html
Iran's New Leader Allegedly Linked to US Embassy Hostage Drama
By Patrick Goodenough
CNSNews.com International Editor
June 30, 2005

(Update: On Thursday morning, White House press secretary Scott McClellan told reporters that "news reports and statements from several former American hostages raise many questions" about Iranian President-Elect Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. McClellan said the White House takes those questions "very seriously and we are looking into them to better understand the facts.")

(CNSNews.com) - Iran's newly elected president was a leading member of a group of students who held 52 Americans hostage for more than 14 months at the outset of the Islamic Revolution, according to an Iranian opposition news agency.

The London-based Iran Focus says a wire service photograph now circulating on the Internet shows a young Mahmoud Ahmadinejad holding the arm of a blindfolded hostage at the U.S. Embassy in Tehran in 1979.

Separately, several of the former hostages have told the Associated Press that they recognize Ahmadinejad as one of their captors, and veteran BBC correspondent John Simpson confirmed that Ahmadinejad was one of the group of student radicals involved in the siege, whom he interviewed after the crisis ended.

Iran Focus says Ahmadinejad was a central council member of the main pro-Ayatollah Khomeini student body called the Office for Strengthening of Unity between Universities and Theological Seminaries (OSU).

"The OSU played a central role in the seizure of the United States Embassy," it said.

"Former OSU officials involved in the takeover of the U.S. Embassy said Ahmadinejad was in charge of security during the occupation, a key role that put him in direct contact with the nascent security organizations of the clerical regime and the Islamic Revolutionary Guards, which he later joined."

Ahmadinejad, who confounded opinion polls by winning the presidential election last week after campaigning on a social justice and anti-corruption platform, would have been 23 at the time of the hostage crisis.

Nine months after the Feb. 1979 fall of a caretaker government appointed by the Shah, Islamic radicals seized the embassy on Nov. 4 and held 52 American diplomats, embassy staffers and others hostage for 444 days, eventually freeing them on the day of President Reagan's inauguration in Jan. 1981.

'New Islamic revolution'

In a fiery speech this week, Ahmadinejad spoke of a "new Islamic revolution" that had arisen this year and declared that "the wave of the Islamic revolution will soon reach the entire world."

In Lebanon, the Iranian-sponsored Hizballah terrorist group hailed Ahmadinejad's election, saying it would "revive and rejuvenate" Khomeini's Islamic Revolution goals.

The largest exiled Iranian opposition group, the National Council of Resistance of Iran (NCRI), claims that the president-elect's background is even more controversial than his alleged role in the hostage-taking.

During the 1980s, it says, Ahmadinejad and the OSU played a key role in purging dissident university lecturers and students on Khomeini's orders.

The NCRI also accuses him of working for a period as an "executioner" at Tehran's notorious Evin prison, where political prisoners are held.

He was later a senior officer in the Special Brigade of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, and then a senior commander of the Corps' elite Quds Force.

The NCRI alleges that he was behind assassinations in Europe and the Middle East, including the 1989 killing of a Kurdish leader in Vienna, Austria.

Hotrod
06-30-2005, 08:54 AM
I saw that and just shook my head. I guess I can say Im not the least surprised. Iran is what it is.

On a side note you all think Bush is bad ;D

Spider
06-30-2005, 08:56 AM
I saw that and just shook my head. I guess I can say Im not the least surprised. Iran is what it is.

On a side note you all think Bush is bad ;D
...... ;D

Crushaholic
06-30-2005, 09:42 AM
I hope he's grown up a bit, but you can bet the administration will be keeping an eye on him.

Hotrod
06-30-2005, 09:48 AM
I hope he's grown up a bit, but you can bet the administration will be keeping an eye on him.

Oh they will be keeping an eye on the whole country they have oil aint that right LABF ::)

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-30-2005, 03:14 PM
Oh they will be keeping an eye on the whole country they have oil aint that right LABF ::)

"I believe you're starting to get the fundamentals of it, son."

- Old man in "Vanishing Point"

ClevelandBronco2
07-01-2005, 02:08 AM
I hope he's grown up a bit, but you can bet the administration will be keeping an eye on him.

IF... IF... it can be proved that the gentleman who is now president-elect of Iran is the man the hostages claim him to be, we should assume that Iran means to take the worst possible approach to U.S. interest in Iran at this pivotal point in our histories.

IF... IF... this man is who he is suspected to be, I'll have no problem with any measures we might use to remove him from power.

Any and all measures, no matter the condition of Mr. Ahmadinejad's corpse (nor the population he represents) once we're done.

On the other hand, should the American hostages prove to be mistaken, they owe the Iranian electorate a profound apology.

Place your bets...

Hotrod
07-01-2005, 07:03 AM
Someone help me out here but I think I heard on the news this morning (I was still trying to wake up) from the white house talking head that if this guy is who we think he is. Then all talks/negotiations with Iran will come to a complete and total stop due to the fact its "supposed" to be against American policy to negotiate with terrorists. Does that make sense. This is gonna get ugly folks.

Spider
07-01-2005, 07:15 AM
Someone help me out here but I think I heard on the news this morning (I was still trying to wake up) from the white house talking head that if this guy is who we think he is. Then all talks/negotiations with Iran will come to a complete and total stop due to the fact its "supposed" to be against American policy to negotiate with terrorists. Does that make sense. This is gonna get ugly folks.
Hense the title of this thread ....

Hotrod
07-01-2005, 08:01 AM
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45075

After reading this Im about 99% certain this guy is who the ex hostages say he is. A man threatens your family like that you remember his mug forever. **** is gonna hit the fan. I will not vote republican in 08 if the white house does not at the very least take a huge stand on this issue.

Spider
07-01-2005, 08:09 AM
The Ex Hostages would know better then anyone else ........ I will take their word long before anyone elses

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-01-2005, 02:04 PM
Ex-Hostages Say Iran Leader-Elect was a Captor

That means he worked with the BFEE 25 years ago and probably still does

Former hostages told The AP that after seeing Ahmadinejad on television, they have no doubt he was one of the hostage-takers. A close aide to Ahmadinejad denied the president-elect took part in the seizure of the embassy or in holding Americans hostage.

The hostage-taking enabled the BFEE to take power in the 1980 election when they painted Carter as a wimp while secretly and illegally and treasonously making their own deal to arm the terrorists with weapons of the future.

When they got caught, Bush the Smarter pardoned everyone to bury the truth and then they turned their media on "Clinton's girlfriends" so the whole Iran-Contra crime wave would be dropped from the headlines and forever be considered "old news."

And who was their biggest ally in the cover-up?

http://www.bartcop.com/hamilton-whitewash.jpg

clarker
07-01-2005, 07:44 PM
The Ex Hostages would know better then anyone else ........ I will take their word long before anyone elsesBut they don't all agree that he is one of them, so now we are in a fine mess.

Spider
07-01-2005, 08:20 PM
But they don't all agree that he is one of them, so now we are in a fine mess.
Thats a Pisser

clarker
07-01-2005, 09:02 PM
Thats a PisserYou can say that again.

Spider
07-01-2005, 10:10 PM
You can say that again.
I saw this rat bastard on TV ...... I think he did it ........ Son of a Biatch looking pretty smug ...... I wanted to kick his ass so far up to his shoulders , he would have to take his shirt off just to **** .........

clarker
07-01-2005, 10:16 PM
I saw this rat bastard on TV ...... I think he did it ........ Son of a Biatch looking pretty smug ...... I wanted to kick his ass so far up to his shoulders , he would have to take his shirt off just to **** .........I don't know if he was one of them or not, but your right he is a smug looking SOB.

Spider
07-01-2005, 10:22 PM
I don't know if he was one of them or not, but your right he is a smug looking SOB.
thats enough of a reason to put him in a hurt locker .......

clarker
07-01-2005, 10:24 PM
thats enough of a reason to put him in a hurt locker .......Well, the troops are in Iraq, but it seems like we could spare a cruise missel or something.

Spider
07-01-2005, 10:27 PM
;D

Hotrod
07-05-2005, 07:05 AM
Well, the troops are in Iraq, but it seems like we could spare a cruise missel or something.

LOL or fifty ;D