Joe Scarborough; A murderer???

[Atlas]

Why has Lori Klausutis' Death Been Swept Under the Rug?

This article is the first in a series on t r u t h o u t which will present the known facts and raise some questions about this strange and tragic case.

Part I: Congressional Aide Found Dead in Congressman's Office
By Jennifer Van Bergen

t r u t h o u t | January 4, 2001 - Remember the news back in July that Lori Klausutis, an aide to U.S. Representative Joe Scarborough (R-FL), was found dead in the congressman's District Office in Fort Walton Beach, Florida?

If you don't, that's because the news came and went in the blink of an eye.

Wait. Did you get that? A congressman's aide. Dead. In the congressman's office. No witnesses.

And the media were all but silent.

While the Condit/Levy story ran rampant in the national press for weeks on end, the Scarborough/Klausutis story got barely nine lines in the Associated Press and only one line in The Washington Post.

Does it make you wonder?

Wait until you hear the rest of the story. It has all the elements of a good murder mystery.



* The congressman (an ardent and vocal supporter of G.W., by the way) resigns only six months after re-election, just prior to his aide's death. The reason: amid rumors of marital infidelity, the recently-divorced husband wants to spend more time with his sons.

* A medical examiner who had his license revoked in another state. Why? He lost it falsifying autopsies.

* The medical examiner's supervisor had contributed thousands of dollars to the congressman's election campaign.

* Contradictory reports about whether there is a visible head injury or not.

* A medical conclusion that contains several inconsistencies. First, that Mrs. Klausutis, who was a marathon runner, died of a cardiac arryhthmia. Second, that although she had suffered a fractured skull and a "contracoup" bruise on the opposite side of the brain, the injury could not possibly have been caused by a physical assault.

* Then there's the question of whether the office was locked and the lights were on. One report says the door was locked and the lights were off; another report says the door was unlocked and the lights were on.

* And if all this weren't enough, there's the scientist husband who does high level weapon design work for the Air Force.



These are only the more obvious elements of the case. And this is not newsworthy enough for the press?

To be fair, the local press, the Northwest Florida Daily News, thought it was newsworthy for a few weeks. They published several short but good pieces and made a public records request for the police and medical reports. However, after the paper published the autopsy findings -- which concluded that Lori Klausutis fainted, fell and hit her head on the desk -- which effectively closed the police investigation, the paper had little more to go on. Furthermore, some local citizens accused the paper of "sensationalizing" the story. So, the story died.

In fact, however, the news stayed alive on various message boards on the internet and two intrepid journalists did do some excellent research which was published online, but amazingly, no major paper or television network even mentioned the story. Why?

That question is perhaps unaswerable. But it should be raised, along with all the many other questions that arise in this case. This series intends to review the facts and raise these questions.

"Absolutely no evidence of foul play"

Mrs. Klausutis was found dead in Rep. Joe Scarborough's Fort Walton Beach office at about 8:10 a.m. on July 20 by Juanita and Andreas Bergmann, who claim they had an appointment that morning with Rep. Scarborough to facilitate Mr. Bergmann's application for a green card. Mr. Scarborough, however, was still in Washington, D.C. and flew home only later that day.

The day after Mrs. Klausutis was found, the police said there was no evidence of "foul play or trauma to her body." The following day, having performed his autopsy and while waiting for the results of blood tests, Dr. Michael Berkland, the medical examiner, told the press that there was "absolutely no evidence" that Lori was "a victim of 'foul play.'" By July 26, although Berkland had still not received the toxicology results, which he noted would likely play a key role in determining whether Ms. Klausutis had died of natural causes or accidentally, Berkland stated that he had "ruled out homicide." While he said he didn't think that suicide was a likely scenario either, he stated that he was also investigating it as a possibility.

Finally, on August 6, Berkland released the autopsy. Oddly, although the police had originally stated that there were no signs of trauma, Berkland acknowledged that Klausutis had sustained a "scratch and bruise" on her head which had been noted in the original death investigation. His explanation for having lied to the press was to "prevent undue speculation" about the cause of death.

Berkland determined that Lori, an avid runner who ran fivemiles a day, had a prolapsed mitral valve which caused a sudden cardiac arrhythmia -- an irregular heartbeat -- which in turn caused Lori to faint "in midstride," and hit her head on the desk. How Berkland came up with this theory is unknown since the medical report contains no description of the death scene, no diagram of the location of the body, or its posture or appearance as Berkland first observed it on the morning of July 20th..

Early on in the investigation, there were rumors that Ms. Klausutis had suffered from previous health problems, but her family issued a statement contradicting this.

Thus, in the very first chapter of this story, several questions arise. How could a healthy, physically fit, 28-year-old woman suddenly "faint" of a previously undetected heart problem? How could the police, with no witnesses, and knowing from the outset that Ms. Klausustis had sustained a bruise to the head, determine that there was no evidence of an attack? If Rep. Scarborough had an appointment with the Bergmann's, why was he still in Washington, D.C.? Or was he? Why did the police and medical examiner lie to the public about the existence of visible signs of head trauma? They lied to the public so easily. Could they have lied about other things, as well? Given their later reluctance to pursue the case or release any information whatsoever about it, this lie may indicate a less-than-honest handling of the case.

[Atlas]

Republican stronghold gives kid-glove treatment to local U.S. Congressman Joe Scarborough



When this story first broke in the Florida panhandle, we wondered if we were in store for some Gary Condit-style media coverage. Needless to say, this story never made national TV. The big boys of broadcast had their sights set solely on Condit and had no time to cover the unusual death of a healthy, politically active 28-year-old female aide in a U.S. Congressman's district office.

The so-called Liberal national media -- quite the opposite in this instance as in so many others -- felt it was more important to keep plucking feathers from their latest Democrat goose than to ruffle the feathers of a Republican Congressman who unexpectedly resigned just a few months after being reelected. Now an aide had been found dead in his office, but the national news media simply weren't interested.

After all was said and done, a few things became quite clear. The authorities, mainly the police who investigated the scene, gave the appearance of a cover-up by immediately stating that there were no signs of foul play. It subsequently was revealed that the dead woman had a bad wound to her forehead, which seemed to fly in the face of the initial statements by investigators. If this wasn't an example of poor police work, it most certainly was a case of bumbled media and public relations.

How could police rule out foul play until they knew the cause of the wound, before an autopsy was conducted and toxicology tests performed?

The local newspaper, the Northwest Florida Daily News, tried to get information from local authorities and claimed they were sandbagged at every turn . No one suggested that the Congressman had anything to do with the death, but the manner in which authorities handled the press shows one thing. They gave the benefit of the doubt to the popular Republican Congressman, and it is doubtful they would have done the same for any ordinary Joe.

[Atlas]

Three Pivotal Questions
by the Editors
September 1, 2001 (APJP) -- Over at The American Prospect's message board thread concerning this very article, Phoenix Woman has asked a trolling Scarborough "defender" three pivotal questions. We'd love to know the answers ourselves:

1) If Lori's death was just a simple accident, then why did Rep. Scarborough and his spokesman Miguel Serrano feel the need to go to two different local TV stations within three hours of her body's being found and invent a nonexistent history of chronic medical conditions for
her -- in other words, why did they feel the need to lie about Lori's health?

2) Would you trust without question the word of a Medical Examiner who lost his ME license in two separate states (Missouri and Florida) because he LIED about his autopsy work (for instance, saying he had autopsied some brains when he hadn't)?

3) Why should whoever wrote Ms. Klausutis's obituary feel it was appropriate to mention nearly everything about her life -- EXCEPT where she'd been working since 1999?

[clarker]

How could a healthy, physically fit, 28-year-old woman suddenly "faint" of a previously undetected heart problem?--

Ever heard of Hank Gathers or that guy from the Boston Celtics. Believe me it can happen. If your goes into Atral(sp?) fibulation you can die in minutes. Larry Bird had a heart condition for years that never turned up before. He was physically fit.

I'm not dismissing this altogether, but it is not as unusal as it would seem for some one to have no prior known heart problem to just drop dead of one.

As for the bruise, she could have hit her had on some thing when she fainted.

[Atlas]

How could a healthy, physically fit, 28-year-old woman suddenly "faint" of a previously undetected heart problem?--

Ever heard of Hank Gathers or that guy from the Boston Celtics. Believe me it can happen. If your goes into Atral fibulation you can die in minutes. Larry Bird had a heart condition for years that never turned up before. He was physically fit.

I'm not dismissing this altogether, but it is not as unusal as it would seem for some one to have no prior known heart problem to just drop dead of one.

Before you just go off spouting do some research. Look up her name in a search engine. There are thousands of articles on the case or should I say the COVER UP. She was murdered.

[Atlas]

Big Wheel Keeps on Turning
by Tamara Baker and Celeste Harrison Whitlow

July 21, 2003 (apj.us) -- Between the evening of July 19th, 2001, and the following morning, a young, vigorous political aide named Lori Klausutis died alone and under mysterious circumstances in the Ft. Walton Beach, Florida, offices of Congressman Joseph Scarborough.

The attending medical examiner, Dr. Michael Berkland, stated in his report that she had fainted and fallen, hitting her head on a desk. This, he said, broke her skull in a 7-inch transverse fracture running from right temple to left, pulverized a region of bone the size of a small marble inside the skull behind the right ear and caused a fist-sized hematoma, or effusion of blood, gathering below the dura mater of the left side of the skull. There was also a contusion, or bruise, on the back of the head. Bloody foam, signifying a death of slow asphyxiation, bubbled up from her lungs into her mouth. Just for good measure, Dr. Berkland claimed that Lori's heart had also failed.

Remarkably, the entire political establishment of northwest Florida, from the police department to the press formed a solid stone wall around this astonishing conclusion.

Berkland's supervisor, Dr. Gary Cumberland, did not notice the internal contradiction between the claim of heart failure and the formation of a massive hematoma. Nor did he remark on Berkland's claim, which contradicts the medical literature, that the hematoma could only have been formed by Lori's head striking an object, not vice versa.

The Chairman of the Medical Examiners' Commission for the state of Florida, Dr. Stephen Nelson, was well aware of the shortcomings in Berkland's record, having recommended that Berkland be suspended for failing to report to Florida that his license was in danger of revocation in Missouri. Nelson knew that Berkland had been fired by the state of Missouri for failing to complete autopsy reports. According to his Missouri supervisor's deposition, Berkland failed to perform 28 autopsy reports for homicides alone in 1994-5. The total number of incomplete cases may have been over 140. Ultimately the cause of death could not be determined for several cases.

Nelson also learned at the time of the Klausutis case that Berkland had falsified his curriculum vitae. More seriously, he had falsified autopsy reports and mishandled organs taken from the dead. In one particularly tragic case, one that irreparably traumatized the surviving family members, Berkland removed the brain of a young woman from his office and placed it in the back of his car. It had to be rescued by an agent of the family's attorney.

Nelson, who in 1999 recommended that Berkland be suspended, also knew that Berkland had subsequently escaped discipline by Florida. Yet as senior medical examiner for the state of Florida, Nelson disclaimed to us any power to act in the Klausutis case. Perhaps having witnessed the political workings that squashed Nelson's effort to oust Berkland-- and succeeded in sealing the complaint against Berkland that Nelson had supported-- Nelson concluded that the state of Florida desired good politics over good forensic medicine. In any event, not long after the Berkland episode, Nelson was promoted to the Chairmanship of the Medical Examiners' Commission.

[clarker]

Before you just go off spouting do some research. Look up her name in a search engine. She was murdered.I'm not spouting off. I know alot about heart conditions, I was born with a heart defect and I know people can just drop with out having shown any signs of ill health before.

In Atral Fibulation the heart can just start beating up 300 beats a minute. If it is the top chambers you can live some time like that, but if untreated your heart will fail. If it is the bottom chambers you have about 15 minutes to live.

In about 4 % of these cases you can go into a bad rythem and die just like that.

I don't have a link and but this is how my doctor explained it to me.

Now the rest of the stuff, I don't know about, sounds pretty fishy which is why I said I wouldn't dissmiss this out of hand.

But as far as the heart thing, I know there could be a innocent reason a 28 year old could just drop dead of a heart problem.


All the other stuff I would say it sounds like it should be looked into for sure. It sounds like this Berkland is at the very least an idiot.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Wow - that's some good research, Atlas.

I'd forgotten all about the whole Joe Scarbor-ho murder coverup scandal.

There's just so many right-wing crimes and scandals and so little time. :D

[Atlas]

Joe Scarborough has run a ragged course. A few months after Klausutis' death, responding to a question by Chris Matthews about what would happen to an aide left his employ and wrote about him, Scarborough blurted out "I think they'd be in danger." Abandoning his congressional seat, his role in publishing the Florida Sun and an active legal career with the Levin Law Firm, Joe Scarborough eventually re-married, left northwest Florida and moved to New York, to join the stable of sideshows at MSNBC.

Recently Don Imus slagged Scarborough with a question from left field: "You said you had sex with that intern and then you had to kill her."

Scarborough, laughing, replied, "Yeah, well what are you gonna do?"

On Imus, of course, it's difficult to tell the humor from the rest of the nastiness. One is reminded of George Bush's answer to Tucker Carlson's question about murderess and born-again Christian Karla Faye Tucker's plea for clemency. Pursing his lips, Bush mimicked the lady he had doomed: "Please don't kill me."

Hey, death is a scream.

But the political machine in northwest Florida just keeps on rolling. As Bill Moyers reported on PBS, the Emerald Coast is being paved over by the St. Joe Timber company. People of the Panhandle, if you give them enough time, if you stay silent in the face of this wrong, they'll pave over Lori's grave.

[clarker]

Atlas should we just skip a trail and hang Scarborough right now? It seems like you have the whole case solved. We can skip the whole process of having a judge and jury look at the case. Just hang him, he is a Republican, he must be guilty.

Seriously from the things you have posted there seems to be alot of fishy things going on, but you make it sound like it is a open and shut case when alot of the things you posted are conflicting reports. Such as some people saying the door was locked and the lights off and others saying the door was open and the lights on.

Then there is this point that it had to be foul play because...First, that Mrs. Klausutis, who was a marathon runner, died of a cardiac arryhthmia.

Well, I know for a fact that people die of cardiac arryhthmia without having any prior sign of illness. It has happened in sports. And as I said Larry Bird played at least half his career with a cardiac rythem problem and never knew it.

[Garcia Bronco]

Before you just go off spouting do some research. Look up her name in a search engine. There are thousands of articles on the case or should I say the COVER UP. She was murdered.


The the police of where ever need to charge somebody with murder...and I like how you try and tie it to the President. Have they charged anyone with murder?

[Spider]

The main thing about Lori Klausutis Death is the M.E. , that guy had checkered Past ... He even lost his Medical license for about 6 years for Falsifying death certificates ......
But I am sure Dr. Michael Berkland ( if I remember right ) learned his lesson and was truthfull from that point on ........ No way he would lie on a Medical Report ........ ::)

[Atlas]

Atlas should we just skip a trail and hang Scarborough right now? It seems like you have the whole case solved. We can skip the whole process of having a judge and jury look at the case. Just hang him, he is a Republican, he must be guilty.

Seriously from the things you have posted there seems to be alot of fishy things going on, but you make it sound like it is a open and shut case when alot of the things you posted are conflicting reports. Such as some people saying the door was locked and the lights off and others saying the door was open and the lights on.

Then there is this point that it had to be foul play because...First, that Mrs. Klausutis, who was a marathon runner, died of a cardiac arryhthmia.

Well, I know for a fact that people die of cardiac arryhthmia without having any prior sign of illness. It has happened in sports. And as I said Larry Bird played at least half his career with a cardiac rythem problem and never knew it.

You don't even want to know the truth. Go ahead and put your head back into the sand. The truth of the matter is that there has never been an investigation. Hell, it was all covered up!!!

[ClevelandBronco2]

The truth of the matter is that there has never been an investigation.

The bull**** meter just pegged in the red. Of course there has been an investigation. You may want further investigation or you might advocate for a new investigation, but your assertion that there has never been an investigation is absurd.

[Spider]

The bull**** meter just pegged in the red. Of course there has been an investigation. You may want further investigation or you might advocate for a new investigation, but your assertion that there has never been an investigation is absurd.
there was a preliminary investigation ......but there was no criminal investigation

[enjolras]

there was a preliminary investigation ......but there was no criminal investigation

Chances are there is a good reason for that.

Why does every damn thing have to turn into a giant conspiracy theory these days.

[Spider]

Chances are there is a good reason for that.

Why does every damn thing have to turn into a giant conspiracy theory these days.
This one for me any ways begins with the M.E. Dr. Michael Berkland the timming of his hiring , and Dr. Berkland rather checkered past ........ Tell me why would you hire a M.E. that lost his license for 6 years for falsifying Death certificates ?
and whats more is why would you believe him ?

[Atlas]

The bull**** meter just pegged in the red. Of course there has been an investigation. You may want further investigation or you might advocate for a new investigation, but your assertion that there has never been an investigation is absurd.

three pivotal questions. We'd love to know the answers ourselves:

1) If Lori's death was just a simple accident, then why did Rep. Scarborough and his spokesman Miguel Serrano feel the need to go to two different local TV stations within three hours of her body's being found and invent a nonexistent history of chronic medical conditions for
her -- in other words, why did they feel the need to lie about Lori's health?

2) Would you trust without question the word of a Medical Examiner who lost his ME license in two separate states (Missouri and Florida) because he LIED about his autopsy work (for instance, saying he had autopsied some brains when he hadn't)?

3) Why should whoever wrote Ms. Klausutis's obituary feel it was appropriate to mention nearly everything about her life -- EXCEPT where she'd been working since 1999?

[Traveler]

Joe Scarborough has run a ragged course. A few months after Klausutis' death, responding to a question by Chris Matthews about what would happen to an aide left his employ and wrote about him, Scarborough blurted out "I think they'd be in danger." Abandoning his congressional seat, his role in publishing the Florida Sun and an active legal career with the Levin Law Firm, Joe Scarborough eventually re-married, left northwest Florida and moved to New York, to join the stable of sideshows at MSNBC.

Recently Don Imus slagged Scarborough with a question from left field: "You said you had sex with that intern and then you had to kill her."

Scarborough, laughing, replied, "Yeah, well what are you gonna do?"

On Imus, of course, it's difficult to tell the humor from the rest of the nastiness. One is reminded of George Bush's answer to Tucker Carlson's question about murderess and born-again Christian Karla Faye Tucker's plea for clemency. Pursing his lips, Bush mimicked the lady he had doomed: "Please don't kill me."

Hey, death is a scream.

But the political machine in northwest Florida just keeps on rolling. As Bill Moyers reported on PBS, the Emerald Coast is being paved over by the St. Joe Timber company. People of the Panhandle, if you give them enough time, if you stay silent in the face of this wrong, they'll pave over Lori's grave.


Atlas-

I'm trying really hard to focus on what you are saying. But that avatar of yours is making it tough! :~ohyah!:

[clarker]

three pivotal questions. We'd love to know the answers ourselves:

1) If Lori's death was just a simple accident, then why did Rep. Scarborough and his spokesman Miguel Serrano feel the need to go to two different local TV stations within three hours of her body's being found and invent a nonexistent history of chronic medical conditions for
her -- in other words, why did they feel the need to lie about Lori's health?

2) Would you trust without question the word of a Medical Examiner who lost his ME license in two separate states (Missouri and Florida) because he LIED about his autopsy work (for instance, saying he had autopsied some brains when he hadn't)?

3) Why should whoever wrote Ms. Klausutis's obituary feel it was appropriate to mention nearly everything about her life -- EXCEPT where she'd been working since 1999?Atlas, I never said that there were not things that were fishy, but according to you we don't even need a trial or a further investigation. Let's just hang the guy now. As for these questions

1. I don't have a clue.
2. No I would not, which is why I said I wouldn't dissmiss it all together.
3. Why does it matter. Scarborough went on the news as you said and talked about her case. I'm sure it was in the news. I bet most people knew where she was working. How are they going to hide it by just leaving it out a obit.

If Scarborough was was a Dem you wouldn't even care. Did you look into the Vince Foster thing? Alot of people thought it was that he was killed and not a sucide. To me this and the Foster thing sound a bit crazy.

Even if this girl was killed, does that mean Scarborough did it? Were they the only people who worked int that building, so it had to be him. Does he have an alibi?

I'll admit there is alot of questions to be answered but you should wait to find them out before you just say the guy is guilty.

[clarker]

This one for me any ways begins with the M.E. Dr. Michael Berkland the timming of his hiring , and Dr. Berkland rather checkered past ........ Tell me why would you hire a M.E. that lost his license for 6 years for falsifying Death certificates ?
and whats more is why would you believe him ?No I wouldn't but in my nephew's school a teacher was hired who got busted for using the copy machine for printing fake money to gamble with. They hired him with similar charges in his past. Some times make hires.

But no I wouldn't believe him.

[Spider]

No I wouldn't but in my nephew's school a teacher was hired who got busted for using the copy machine for printing fake money to gamble with. They hired him with similar charges in his past. Some times make hires.
The teacher clearly has a ethical and an addiction problems , and shouldnt have been hired .......
But what if the teacher was teaching the Holocuast never happened ? Hilter was misunderstood , and the US only declared war on him over minerals like steel ? should the teacher have been hired ?

[Atlas]

Atlas, I never said that there were not things that were fishy, but according to you we don't even need a trial or a further investigation. Let's just hang the guy now. As for these questions

I'll admit there is alot of questions to be answered but you should wait to find them out before you just say the guy is guilty.

I never said one time that Scarborough killed this girl. I did say there was a murder however and the evidence supports that. The problem here was that there wasn't an investigation all there was was a cover up. Why??

I used to think this guy had some valid takes now I think he is O.J.
Minus the trial and the investigation of course.

Don't you find this a little disturbing.
" Recently Don Imus slagged Scarborough with a question from left field: "You said you had sex with that intern and then you had to kill her."

Scarborough, laughing, replied, "Yeah, well what are you gonna do?""

If I was an innocent man and Imus asked me a question like that I would have punched his lights out. The fact is Scarborough didn't have an answer to that question.

You would think an attractive 28 year old woman who ends up dead in a Congressman's office would be newsworthy?

[clarker]

The teacher clearly has a ethical and an addiction problems , and shouldnt have been hired .......
But what if the teacher was teaching the Holocuast never happened ? Hilter was misunderstood , and the US only declared war on him over minerals like steel ? should the teacher have been hired ?When was this guy hired. Was right before this girl died. Did Joe get him hired because he was going to kill her? If he had been working there for a year or more did Joe hire him just in case down the road he was going to have kill someone?

His record makes it hard to believe his findings, but does that make it 100% fact that Joe did it? I wouldn't say that.

Am I saying that Atlas didn't bring up a lot of good questions that need answering, no. He did in fact bring up some good questions. But he has his mind made up and it kind of sounds like you do as well. Any good investigator shouldn't go into it with their mind made up.

[Spider]

When was this guy hired. Was right before this girl died. Did Joe get him hired because he was going to kill her? If he had been working there for a year or more did Joe hire him just in case down the road he was going to have kill someone?
Not saying that at all , all I am saying is it is worthy of investigating ...... Whats to say Joe and Laurie was romancing the Sheets and she threatened to go public , So Joe made alot of promises to buy time to get this M.E. .....

His record makes it hard to believe his findings, but does that make it 100% fact that Joe did it? I wouldn't say that.
agreed , but it is worthy of an investigation .......

Am I saying that Atlas didn't bring up a lot of good questions that need answering, no. He did in fact bring up some good questions. But he has his mind made up and it kind of sounds like you do as well. Any good investigator shouldn't go into it with their mind made up.
That is all I am saying , there is alot of loose ends , alot of unanswered questions ......

[Atlas]

When was this guy hired. Was right before this girl died. Did Joe get him hired because he was going to kill her? If he had been working there for a year or more did Joe hire him just in case down the road he was going to have kill someone?

His record makes it hard to believe his findings, but does that make it 100% fact that Joe did it? I wouldn't say that.

Am I saying that Atlas didn't bring up a lot of good questions that need answering, no. He did in fact bring up some good questions. But he has his mind made up and it kind of sounds like you do as well. Any good investigator shouldn't go into it with their mind made up.

I can accept that.

[clarker]

I never said one time that Scarborough killed this girl. I did say there was a murder however and the evidence supports that. The problem here was that there wasn't an investigation all there was was a cover up. Why??

I used to think this guy had some valid takes now I think he is O.J.
Minus the trial and the investigation of course.

Don't you find this a little disturbing.
" Recently Don Imus slagged Scarborough with a question from left field: "You said you had sex with that intern and then you had to kill her."

Scarborough, laughing, replied, "Yeah, well what are you gonna do?""

If I was an innocent man and Imus asked me a question like that I would have punched his lights out. The fact is Scarborough didn't have an answer to that question.

You would think an attractive 28 year old woman who ends up dead in a Congressman's office would be newsworthy?If you ever listen to Scarborough he is very sourcaustic at times, so that is my take on the Imus thing.

Sure it is newsworthy, but it doesn't mean it doesn't mean he did. Are they the only two people working in the building. If there was no investigation, then they didn't interview other people working there, who might have had a reason to kill her.

And you just did say that Scarborough killed her or is there another way he reminds you of O.J.? Was he a good running back in the NFL?

You might be 1000% right, but shouldn't you wait to see the results of the investigation you want them to have before hanging the guy.

[Atlas]

Am I saying that Atlas didn't bring up a lot of good questions that need answering, no. He did in fact bring up some good questions. But he has his mind made up and it kind of sounds like you do as well. Any good investigator shouldn't go into it with their mind made up.

I can accept that. I'm not an investigator. I'm allowed to have whatever opinion I want. My big problem here is that there NEVER was a valid investigation.

Get out the broom and sweep it under the rug no one will care.

[Atlas]

You might be 1000% right, but shouldn't you wait to see the results of the investigation you want them to have before hanging the guy.

Are you not reading anything here??? There is no investigation, there was no investigation.

The case is closed!!

[clarker]

Not saying that at all , all I am saying is it is worthy of investigating ...... Whats to say Joe and Laurie was romancing the Sheets and she threatened to go public , So Joe made alot of promises to buy time to get this M.E. .....Spider

Whats to say that Laurie and some other guy(or girl) who was working for Joe,(some one high up) who happened to be married were hitting the sheets and Laurie threatened to go public.

[Atlas]

Not saying that at all , all I am saying is it is worthy of investigating ...... Whats to say Joe and Laurie was romancing the Sheets and she threatened to go public , So Joe made alot of promises to buy time to get this M.E. .....Spider

Whats to say that Laurie and some other guy(or girl) who was working for Joe,(some one high up) who happened to be married were hitting the sheets and Laurie threatened to go public.


I agree with you on that it is worthy of an investigation.

[clarker]

Are you not reading anything here??? There is no investigation, there was no investigation.

The case is closed!!Have you ever gave even a thought to the fact that the reason there was no investigation that there was no foul play?

[Montaq]

I once shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die. ???

[Spider]

Not saying that at all , all I am saying is it is worthy of investigating ...... Whats to say Joe and Laurie was romancing the Sheets and she threatened to go public , So Joe made alot of promises to buy time to get this M.E. .....Spider

Whats to say that Laurie and some other guy(or girl) who was working for Joe,(some one high up) who happened to be married were hitting the sheets and Laurie threatened to go public.
thats why we need an investigation

[clarker]

I agree with you on that it is worthy of an investigation.
I agree the thing needs looked at, but it did seem that you had your mind made up. Especially when you said Joe reminded you of O.J. now.

But yes they should look at this, but I have no idea how to get them to investigate it further.

[Montaq]

Have you ever seen Joe on Bill Mauer's show? He pretends to be "moderate". It's sickening.

[clarker]

I once shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die. ???
You come up with some classic lines. Hilarious!

[clarker]

Have you ever seen Joe on Bill Mauer's show? He pretends to be "moderate". It's sickening.Joe is pretty conservative on things like the national debt and goes off on Bush for racking up a huge debt. But he is against amendment on gay marriage. Not sure if he is pro life or pro choice. I wouldn't call him a moderate, but he is far from the most right wing republican out there.

[Montaq]

This is my favorite Scarborough story though. ROFL!

Don't know if you caught it last week, but Joe Scarborough , MSNBC's congressman-turned-TV-guy, pitched a hissy fit about Arnold "The Guv" Schwarzenegger on his show:

"You know, this guy has been in so much trouble," he blabbered on his April 25 show. "He's got sagging poll numbers. He's got political groups criticizing his every move. And now the governator is making all his enemies' job easier. According to the London Evening Standard, Arnold recently went on Howard Stern's radio show and offered his theory on how to end premenstrual syndrome, saying -- quote -- 'If we get rid of the moon, womens, whose menstrual cycles are governed by the moon, will not get PMS. They will stop bitching and whining.'

Schwarzenegger to Scarborough: It ain't so, Joe. (Max Whittaker - AP)
"Hey, Governor," Scarborough continued, "way to make 50 percent of California's voting population turn frigid towards you. I don't know how it works in Austria, but let me tell you something, friend, jokes about such matters -- not laughing subjects to women in America."

Great point, Joe! Except -- not to throw stones here -- Schwarzenegger never said those things. Scarborough (and apparently the London Daily Mail, not the Evening Standard) got duped. Howard Stern apparently has a Schwarzenegger impersonator on his show regularly, and he was the one rat-a-tat-tatting on about the dreaded PMS.

As a result, MSNBC tells us that Scarborough planned to right his wrong on last night's show and that it had taken 10 days to address it because, well, they were unaware of the mistake until we called. However, the Guv's office tells us that they called the show the day after it aired and pointed out the error. Hmm.

"You would hope that news outlets would do their due diligence in calling the appropriate offices in order to make sure their sourcing is correct," the Guv's spokeswoman Margita Thompson told us yesterday


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/05/AR2005050501785.html

Way to investigate a story Joe!!

[clarker]

This is my favorite Scarborough story though. ROFL!



http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/05/AR2005050501785.html

Way to investigate a story Joe!! LOL It will take a crow bar to remove his foot from his mouth on that.

[Atlas]

LOL It will take a crow bar to remove his foot from his mouth on that.


You gotta love Stern. They have an Evil Dave Letterman on there too. The guy sounds just like him.

[clarker]

You gotta love Stern. They have an Evil Dave Letterman on there too. The guy sounds just like him.I wouldn't want to be Joe the next time he has to be in the same room as Arnold.

[Montaq]

You gotta love Stern. They have an Evil Dave Letterman on there too. The guy sounds just like him.

Letterman's people used to get pissed because Howard wouldn't always make it clear that it was an impersonator. ROFL!

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

You don't even want to know the truth. Go ahead and put your head back into the sand. The truth of the matter is that there has never been an investigation. Hell, it was all covered up!!!

Of course they don't want to know the truth.

All they know is that a fellow Bush shill is being accused of some crime or another.

As always, they're all rushing to his defense without even knowing the facts.

Just like clockwork.