Van Pelt's New Perspective

[PatsWin2002]

http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=334&storyID=4268

Van Pelt's New Perspective
Year on Practice Squad and in Press Box Gives Ex-CSU Passer Chance to Adjust
By Andrew Mason
DenverBroncos.com

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- For 17 three-hour segments last fall and winter, the game of football was close enough to Bradlee Van Pelt for him to be in the center of the Broncos' communication crosshairs. With a headset atop his free-flowing mop of hair and a clipboard, pen and paper at his reach, he listened to each playcall from offensive coordinator Gary Kubiak and Head Coach Mike Shanahan, he was at the heart of the Broncos' in-game decision-making process.

But in one respect, Van Pelt was far away. Closer than the fans in the upper deck of INVESCO Field at Mile High, but high above the sidelines where his teammates strode. Van Pelt was in the coaches' box on the press level, clad in coaching attire, at a height where binoculars can come in handy.
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Van Pelt knew it was for his own good. He received a different perspective on the game he'd known for as long as he could remember. He began to understand why the Broncos' offensive coaches call certain plays the way they do, and in seeing the execution of a starting quarterback with a similar style, he learned more about on-the-fly decision-making -- absorbing both the good and bad of Jake Plummer's work last year, learning what to do and what not to do.

"We do take chances, and we're also very loose individuals. We like to have a good time, but we know when to be serious," Van Pelt said. "But for me, watching Jake, he has some qualities I don't have. He knows how to take risks, but at the same time, he knows how to protect himself -- sliding, running out of bounds, throwing the ball away. I have to learn to do these things."

It was the further education of a young quarterback who regards his 14 months to date in Denver as the equivalent of receiving a master's degree in football. Nevertheless, the initial few weeks above the fray chafed at Van Pelt.

"The first four or five games were difficult because I felt left out," he said. "I felt like I was not a part of the team. It was the first time since I was a kid that I haven't suited up and gone out to play. Now, I'm in coaching attire in the box."

It required Van Pelt to put aside the abundance of confidence he possesses in himself and put his future in the hands of people with far more experience.

"I had to trust the coaches -- which I did," Van Pelt said. "I put trust in them (saying), 'This is what you need, Bradlee. You need to sit here. We don't need you graba--ing on the sidelines, looking at the cheerleaders. We need you concentrating, writing the plays down and focusing.'

"That's what I started opening my eyes to and saying, 'Hey, they're right.'"

Months later, the offseason rolled around, and the possibility of sending Van Pelt to the NFL Europe came into play. He would have been the fourth Broncos quarterback to play in that league since 2001, joining Jarious Jackson, Todd Husak and Nick Rolovich.

But for both Van Pelt and fellow 2004 seventh-round pick Matt Mauck, a stint in Europe was determined to be counterproductive.

"We just felt like their time would be better served with them here and getting them working in our system," quarterbacks coach Pat McPherson said in May.

Added Van Pelt: "I think I would have enjoyed playing, going over there and making a name for myself. But at the same time, being around the guys here, the system, the receivers that I'm going to throw with during this upcoming season is important, too. It's a toss-up, and I think I would have benefited either way, but I stayed here, and there's no looking back."
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As the competition to become Plummer's understudy cranks up in the next few weeks, Van Pelt feels as though he and Mauck have an extra edge in the scrum with rookie Chad Friehauf and veteran Danny Kanell, because of their year in the system, coupled with their youth and potential.

"I firmly believe that if I or Matt show them there's a reason to give youth over experience, they're going to give it, because any team's trying to find a kid who's going to be the next to lead them to a championship," Van Pelt said. "Am I the person? I don't know. I think I'm going to lead some team down the road to a championship. If it's this one, so be it."

Maybe fortune conspires with fortitude and gives Van Pelt that chance sooner than anyone could expect; after all, who was Tom Brady in the summer of 2001 but a low draft pick from the previous year trying desperately to stick on the roster? Or perhaps the status quo remains in place, and Van Pelt wiggles his way onto the 53-man roster as the emergency quarterback, continuing his education with a clipboard and a headset.

Either way, he's ready for the coming step in his evolution.

"I am eager," Van Pelt said. "By all means, if things were to happen, I would not shy away from it, I'd go in there and give 110 percent. But I am happy just to have the opportunity to go in there and learn because there's so much I don't know about this game -- especially now that I've learned over a year, my eyes have opened up."

Opened in large part due to the perspective of watching the game from far, far away.

[Kaylore]

http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=609&videoID=785

I'll admit that he's got some moxie. He'll get a lot more playing time this pre-season, so we'll get to see how he does.


http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=334&storyID=4268
Van Pelt's New Perspective
Year on Practice Squad and in Press Box Gives Ex-CSU Passer Chance to Adjust

vanpelt_bradlee_050629_2.jpgBy Andrew Mason
DenverBroncos.com

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- For 17 three-hour segments last fall and winter, the game of football was close enough to Bradlee Van Pelt for him to be in the center of the Broncos' communication crosshairs. With a headset atop his free-flowing mop of hair and a clipboard, pen and paper at his reach, he listened to each playcall from offensive coordinator Gary Kubiak and Head Coach Mike Shanahan, he was at the heart of the Broncos' in-game decision-making process.

BRONCOS TV: VAN PELT: FROM THE BOX BACK TO THE FIELD

But in one respect, Van Pelt was far away. Closer than the fans in the upper deck of INVESCO Field at Mile High, but high above the sidelines where his teammates strode. Van Pelt was in the coaches' box on the press level, clad in coaching attire, at a height where binoculars can come in handy.

Van Pelt knew it was for his own good. He received a different perspective on the game he'd known for as long as he could remember. He began to understand why the Broncos' offensive coaches call certain plays the way they do, and in seeing the execution of a starting quarterback with a similar style, he learned more about on-the-fly decision-making -- absorbing both the good and bad of Jake Plummer's work last year, learning what to do and what not to do.

"We do take chances, and we're also very loose individuals. We like to have a good time, but we know when to be serious," Van Pelt said. "But for me, watching Jake, he has some qualities I don't have. He knows how to take risks, but at the same time, he knows how to protect himself -- sliding, running out of bounds, throwing the ball away. I have to learn to do these things."

It was the further education of a young quarterback who regards his 14 months to date in Denver as the equivalent of receiving a master's degree in football. Nevertheless, the initial few weeks above the fray chafed at Van Pelt.

"The first four or five games were difficult because I felt left out," he said. "I felt like I was not a part of the team. It was the first time since I was a kid that I haven't suited up and gone out to play. Now, I'm in coaching attire in the box."

It required Van Pelt to put aside the abundance of confidence he possesses in himself and put his future in the hands of people with far more experience.

"I had to trust the coaches -- which I did," Van Pelt said. "I put trust in them (saying), 'This is what you need, Bradlee. You need to sit here. We don't need you graba--ing on the sidelines, looking at the cheerleaders. We need you concentrating, writing the plays down and focusing.'

"That's what I started opening my eyes to and saying, 'Hey, they're right.'"

Months later, the offseason rolled around, and the possibility of sending Van Pelt to the NFL Europe came into play. He would have been the fourth Broncos quarterback to play in that league since 2001, joining Jarious Jackson, Todd Husak and Nick Rolovich.

But for both Van Pelt and fellow 2004 seventh-round pick Matt Mauck, a stint in Europe was determined to be counterproductive.

vanpelt_bradlee_050629_2.jpg"We just felt like their time would be better served with them here and getting them working in our system," quarterbacks coach Pat McPherson said in May.

Added Van Pelt: "I think I would have enjoyed playing, going over there and making a name for myself. But at the same time, being around the guys here, the system, the receivers that I'm going to throw with during this upcoming season is important, too. It's a toss-up, and I think I would have benefited either way, but I stayed here, and there's no looking back."

As the competition to become Plummer's understudy cranks up in the next few weeks, Van Pelt feels as though he and Mauck have an extra edge in the scrum with rookie Chad Friehauf and veteran Danny Kanell, because of their year in the system, coupled with their youth and potential.

"I firmly believe that if I or Matt show them there's a reason to give youth over experience, they're going to give it, because any team's trying to find a kid who's going to be the next to lead them to a championship," Van Pelt said. "Am I the person? I don't know. I think I'm going to lead some team down the road to a championship. If it's this one, so be it."

Maybe fortune conspires with fortitude and gives Van Pelt that chance sooner than anyone could expect; after all, who was Tom Brady in the summer of 2001 but a low draft pick from the previous year trying desperately to stick on the roster? Or perhaps the status quo remains in place, and Van Pelt wiggles his way onto the 53-man roster as the emergency quarterback, continuing his education with a clipboard and a headset.

Either way, he's ready for the coming step in his evolution.

"I am eager," Van Pelt said. "By all means, if things were to happen, I would not shy away from it, I'd go in there and give 110 percent. But I am happy just to have the opportunity to go in there and learn because there's so much I don't know about this game -- especially now that I've learned over a year, my eyes have opened up."

Opened in large part due to the perspective of watching the game from far, far away.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Must have cut out the quote where Bradlee acknowledges he'll never be an NFL QB.

[MT-Tdawg]

Hopefully in preseason this year we will see if that mullet has superpowers or not.....

[scorpio]

:pimp:

[SoCalBronco]

" This is what you need, Bradlee. You need to sit here. We don't need you graba--ing on the sidelines, looking at the cheerleaders. We need you concentrating, writing the plays down and focusing.'
.

:pimp: rofl

[ludo21]

im excited to see what BVP can do in the preseason

[Hercules Rockefeller]

:pimp: rofl

Good to know Bradlee had his head in the game when on the sidelines.

[scorpio]

Good to know Bradlee had his head in the game when on the sidelines.

I know a good surgeon who can remove that stick from your ass.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

I know a good surgeon who can remove that stick from your ass.

Dude's a "pro" trying to make a team, and he's dicking around with other players and looking at cheerleaders. Someone might want to mention to Bradlee that he's not playing in a 2nd tier NCAA conference anymore.

[Kaylore]

Does anyone have his stats for each year he was starting at CSU?

[Pezman]

Must have cut out the quote where Bradlee acknowledges he'll never be an NFL QB.

I kept looking for that too
ROFL!

Look at it this way, at least he staved off working at Taco Bell for at least one year right? Good for skippy, hero of the stupid :thumbs:

[Hogan11]

Well, someone had to follow in Jarious's footsteps I suppose.....anyone wanna guess how long before they try making a safety out of him??

[scorpio]

Does anyone have his stats for each year he was starting at CSU?

I'll try to track down his stats. The only two-time MWC offensive player of the year. Same conference Alex Smith played in.

In the meantime, here's an article from the Coloradoan that's a couple months old: http://www.coloradoan.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050529/SPORTS/505290331/1006

[BigPlayShay]

All the hatred for this guy by CU fans (or Air Force, or Wyoming, or whomever else) should have left the minute that the Broncos drafted the guy. The kid is cocky, but he is tough and knows how to win. Holding on to the college fan hate is moronic at best.

I went to CSU and I am a fan. I don't hate Patrick Chukuwrah because he went to Wyoming. I am also a fan of CU, but I loved when Neil Smith was a Bronco.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

All the hatred for this guy by CU fans (or Air Force, or Wyoming, or whomever else) should have left the minute that the Broncos drafted the guy. The kid is corky, but he is tough and knows how to win. Holding on to the college fan hate is moronic at best.

I went to CSU and I am a fan. I don't hate Patrick Chukuwrah because he went to Wyoming. I am also a fan of CU, but I loved when Neil Smith was a Bronco.


Yes my fellow CU alumni - wipe the buffalo chips off your sunglasses and give the guy a chance. (But somebody ask our CSU friend what "corky" means).

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Why doesn't Lamb-Nation let us know when BVP does something besides getting into the 4th quarter of the 5th preseason game? Until then, the kid has done nothing to deserve any type of media attention as a pro. All he is now, is a PS player hoping to make it as the 3rd QB. Hopefully DB.com will have an article of Friehuf since they've pretty much accomplished the same thing, dick.

[BigPlayShay]

Yes my fellow CU alumni - wipe the buffalo chips off your sunglasses and give the guy a chance. (But somebody ask our CSU friend what "corky" means).

I meant cocky, it has been edited. By the way I took some courses at dear old CU post-graduation, so I am not just a CSU "friend"

[scorpio]

His 2002 numbers (along with the rest of the MWC) are here (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/college/stats/conference/2002/mwest.html)

Still looking for the rest, SI's site navigation sucks

[BigPlayShay]

corky

corky

corky

Is this another db foul up?

Atwater? That is ok now, but not c o c k y. c-o-c-k-y, cocky

[scorpio]

Why doesn't Lamb-Nation let us know when BVP does something besides getting into the 4th quarter of the 5th preseason game? Until then, the kid has done nothing to deserve any type of media attention as a pro. All he is now, is a PS player hoping to make it as the 3rd QB. Hopefully DB.com will have an article of Friehuf since they've pretty much accomplished the same thing, dick.


Actually, they've had articles on Friehauf. This one, for example. (http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=334&storyID=4231)

The whole point of the article is that BVP IS going to get more chances that the 4th quarter of the last preseason game.

Maybe the stick up your ass isn't the problem, might be time to change your tampon also.

[SoCalBronco]

I dont see a viable way where BVP makes the active roster this year. Its Kanell and Mauck, not necessarily in that order, at 2 and 3, if they keep 3.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Maybe the stick up your ass isn't the problem, might be time to change your tampon also.

Wow, now that's a quality education you're getting at CS-Ewe. Stick up the ass to the tampon argument. Is boogerhead next, or have you already taken it passed that level?

[Hercules Rockefeller]

I dont see a viable way where BVP makes the active roster this year. Its Kanell and Mauck, not necessarily in that order, at 2 and 3, if they keep 3.

and he's not on the team in '06, since that will include a high draft pick at the position

[scorpio]

Wow, now that's a quality education you're getting at CS-Ewe. Stick up the ass to the tampon argument. Is boogerhead next, or have you already taken it passed that level?

I was trying to speak in terms your tiny brain might be able to understand, since you seem incapable of seeing past your hatred for a player who happens to be on your favorite team. I'm sorry he embarrassed your school or knocked up your sister or whatever, but it's really pretty idiotic to come in and hate on him when you haven't even seen what he can do.

Oh wait, you have seen what he can do, like when he scored a touchdown on the first offensive drive he ever made in the NFL.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

I was trying to speak in terms your tiny brain might be able to understand, since you seem incapable of seeing past your hatred for a player who happens to be on your favorite team. I'm sorry he embarrassed your school or knocked up your sister or whatever, but it's really pretty idiotic to come in and hate on him when you haven't even seen what he can do.

Oh wait, you have seen what he can do, like when he scored a touchdown on the first offensive drive he ever made in the NFL.

He hasn't done anything, which is why he doesn't deserve Lamb-Nation down on their knees whenever he's been brought up. I know you guys don't have much going on up there, but Joey Porter and a few others are in the NFL, act like this isn't your first draft pick ever.

Oh, and BVP was on the PS last year. He's never been on the field for an actual NFL game. Now if you're referring to the Broncos 5th preseason game where he entered in the 4th quarter, it was scrubs playing against scrubs. BVP wasn't going up against the starters, or in most cases, those starters' backups.

[scorpio]

It's funny that you accuse CSU fans of "going down on their knees" whenever BVP is mentioned. I didn't realize it was a bad thing to hope for someone you like to succeed.

What's REALLY funny is how any CU alum within throwing distance feels the need to attack the kid any time his name is mentioned. You guys must feel pretty threatened.

[MT-Tdawg]

You CU/CSU fans crack me up.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

What's REALLY funny is how any CU alum within throwing distance feels the need to attack the kid any time his name is mentioned. You guys must feel pretty threatened.

Good thing I'm not a CU alum

[scorpio]

Good thing I'm not a CU alum

Didn't make it to graduation eh?

[Psi]

Hate to admit it now that he's a Donk, but I've always liked Van Pelt. He's tough, if nothing else.

Dude's a "pro" trying to make a team, and he's dicking around with other players and looking at cheerleaders. Someone might want to mention to Bradlee that he's not playing in a 2nd tier NCAA conference anymore.A school from that "second tier" conference just became the first school to ever produce the first-overall draft picks in both the NFL and NBA drafts in the same year.

[scorpio]

Hate to admit it now that he's a Donk, but I've always liked Van Pelt. He's tough, if nothing else.


Threw for 163 yards, rushed for 65, and scored 2 touchdowns with a broken hand in the San Francisco Bowl before they yanked him.

[orange crusher]

I wasn't a big fan of Clarett until he was drafted by the Broncos, but now I'm pulling for him to succeed. I'm also a CU fan, but am pulling for Van Pelt to make it. I don't understand all of the talk about him not doing anything or doing it against scrubs. Mauck hasn't done anything against NFL starters either, but everyone seems to think he has a legitimate chance at being the backup. Personally, I hope both of them beat out Kannell, even though game experience would be a concern if either one of them was forced into duty.

[Sodak]

(But somebody ask our CSU friend what "corky" means).

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

I wasn't a big fan of Clarett until he was drafted by the Broncos, but now I'm pulling for him to succeed. I'm also a CU fan, but am pulling for Van Pelt to make it. I don't understand all of the talk about him not doing anything or doing it against scrubs. Mauck hasn't done anything against NFL starters either, but everyone seems to think he has a legitimate chance at being the backup. Personally, I hope both of them beat out Kannell, even though game experience would be a concern if either one of them was forced into duty.


Absolutely! Now everyone sing along....

Kum By ah ............

[Bronx33]

Yes my fellow CU alumni - wipe the buffalo chips off your sunglasses and give the guy a chance. (But somebody ask our CSU friend what "corky" means).

Iam with big guy on this one I'AM going to give BVP a chance before judgement....... until further notice, GO BVP! but i reserve the the right to trash him whrn he fu*ks up LOL!

[Bronx33]

I wasn't a big fan of Clarett until he was drafted by the Broncos, but now I'm pulling for him to succeed. I'm also a CU fan, but am pulling for Van Pelt to make it. I don't understand all of the talk about him not doing anything or doing it against scrubs. Mauck hasn't done anything against NFL starters either, but everyone seems to think he has a legitimate chance at being the backup. Personally, I hope both of them beat out Kannell, even though game experience would be a concern if either one of them was forced into duty.


Please let kannell slip into insurance sales....PLEASE!

[BRONCCRUSHFAN]

It's funny that you accuse CSU fans of "going down on their knees" whenever BVP is mentioned. I didn't realize it was a bad thing to hope for someone you like to succeed.

What's REALLY funny is how any CU alum within throwing distance feels the need to attack the kid any time his name is mentioned. You guys must feel pretty threatened.

That's because CU fans secretly wished that he was a Buff, instead of Craig Ochs.

There are some things I like about BVP, that I don't like in Mauck. Size, BVP has almost 3" in height, and about 30lbs on Mauck, and well Mauck is about an inch taller than a smurf. Mobility, BVP has shown he can run, but I think his arm is underrated, because of the offense that CSU ran while he was up there. Attitude, I like his statement "I think I'm going to lead some team down the road to a championship. If it's this one, so be it." He has always had confidence in himself as a QB, Mauck quit to go play baseball and then when he sucked at the minor league level he went back to playing QB. Humility, He has been a starter and a winner at every level of football, without any effort on his part. Now he has hit the NFL, and it has been a humbling experience, thus his statement "put trust in them (saying), 'This is what you need, Bradlee. You need to sit here. We don't need you graba--ing on the sidelines, looking at the cheerleaders" he has learned the kind of dedication it requires to be an NFL QB. The statement I find the funniest in this thread is stating that "Someone might want to mention to Bradlee that he's not playing in a 2nd tier NCAA conference anymore." Last I saw there are no QBs in the NFL from Florida, Florida State, or Miami having success in the NFL. Besides Brady, I don't see any Big 10 QBs tearing it up, remember we ran the boozer out of town? In fact the QBs (besides Brady) that are really the future of the NFL are out of the MAC, and wouldn't that qualify as a 2nd tier NCAA conference? It's about how fast a QB figures out the game of NFL football, and hardwork he puts into it. Sounds like BVP has figured that part out now. As long as he is in Broncos training camp, and on the Broncos roster, I will be pulling for him, especially over Mauck and that useless Kanell.

[-Slap-]

Anybody remember Brad's dad? He was a great linebacker for the Giants during their dark days of the 70s and early 80s. He was really big for a LB of that era, like 6'5', but he was mobile and smart, too.

[BRONCCRUSHFAN]

Anybody remember Brad's dad? He was a great linebacker for the Giants during their dark days of the 70s and early 80s. He was really big for a LB of that era, like 6'5', but he was mobile and smart, too.

Mean SOB too. If you were in the wrong color jersey, you were the enemy.

[Tombstone RJ]

Why doesn't Lamb-Nation let us know when BVP does something besides getting into the 4th quarter of the 5th preseason game? Until then, the kid has done nothing to deserve any type of media attention as a pro. All he is now, is a PS player hoping to make it as the 3rd QB. Hopefully DB.com will have an article of Friehuf since they've pretty much accomplished the same thing, dick.

Man HR, your hatred of BVP is really apparent. You need to calm down and just let the kid develop a little before you crucify him and scream to everyone here how right you were in your personal opinion of BVP.

Oh, and one more thing: do you have my money, f**knut?

[bronco militia]

You CU/CSU fans crack me up.

no doubt...go Air Force ;D

[ak1971]

Herc is to BVP as LABF is to George Bush...its pretty funny. The guy could win a SB and Herc would hate him

[Rock Chalk]

All the hatred for this guy by CU fans (or Air Force, or Wyoming, or whomever else) should have left the minute that the Broncos drafted the guy. The kid is corky, but he is tough and knows how to win. Holding on to the college fan hate is moronic at best.

I went to CSU and I am a fan. I don't hate Patrick Chukuwrah because he went to Wyoming. I am also a fan of CU, but I loved when Neil Smith was a Bronco.
I am a fan of no college team and I can concur with Herc. BVP is camp fodder at best and will never start in the NFL unless by some freak miracle, everyone else on the team gets injured.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Didn't make it to graduation eh?

Yep, too tough. But I went to Ft. Collins and graduated with honors.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Oh, and one more thing: do you have my money, ****nut?

When BVP makes an active NFL roster as a QB, you'll get your money.

[scorpio]

Yep, too tough. But I went to Ft. Collins and graduated with honors.

And here I thought you must have been kicked out for failing 'Insults 101'. Pretty lame, even for you.

[scorpio]

I am a fan of no college team and I can concur with Herc. BVP is camp fodder at best and will never start in the NFL unless by some freak miracle, everyone else on the team gets injured.

What are you basing this on? The fact that you don't watch college football?

[Rock Chalk]

What are you basing this on? The fact that you don't watch college football?
No, basing it on the fact that BVP played less than 10 minutes of pre-season last year, spent the entire year on teh PS, played in a sub par conference in college, was at best a project, went undrafted, has barely seen the field even in pre-season, played against mediocre competition and three guys named Plummer, Mauck and Kannell.

What exactly are you basing your opinion on? Your CSU colored glasses?

[ak1971]

I kept looking for that too
ROFL!

Look at it this way, at least he staved off working at Taco Bell for at least one year right? Good for skippy, hero of the stupid :thumbs:


Oh, and Pez still blows :)

[Rock Chalk]

And here I thought you must have been kicked out for failing 'Insults 101'. Pretty lame, even for you.
You know whats lame? Your attempts to knock on Herc who, by virtue of tenure, has earned more respect around here than 99.99% of the posters. You are free to disagree with whomever you want, but just so you know, Id trust Herc's word on football matters as much as I trust wabbit, SoCal or Tredici and that's saying something.

[scorpio]

No, basing it on the fact that BVP played less than 10 minutes of pre-season last year, spent the entire year on teh PS, played in a sub par conference in college, was at best a project, went undrafted, has barely seen the field even in pre-season, played against mediocre competition and three guys named Plummer, Mauck and Kannell.

What exactly are you basing your opinion on? Your CSU colored glasses?


Actually, he was drafted. By us. I admit, I want Van Pelt to succeed, but not only because he went to CSU. I hated Holland, our QB last year. I think Van Pelt is a hell of a footballer and has the intangibles that a QB needs to be truly great. I admit, last season he wasn't ready to make the squad, but Shanahan seems to think he has potential, which is why he put him on the PS to develop, let him hang out in the box during games, etc., instead of just cutting him. I'm optimistic that he's progressed enough to challenge for the #2 spot, but only camp will tell. I just don't see how anyone who's seen the kid play can deny that he could be great.

[scorpio]

You know whats lame? Your attempts to knock on Herc who, by virtue of tenure, has earned more respect around here than 99.99% of the posters. You are free to disagree with whomever you want, but just so you know, Id trust Herc's word on football matters as much as I trust wabbit, SoCal or Tredici and that's saying something.

Tenure, right. I forgot that having 30 billion nonsense posts makes someone's arguments more valid, no matter how moronic they are. If he's such a football guru, I'm sure he doesn't need you to stick up for him.

[Rock Chalk]

Actually, he was drafted. By us. I admit, I want Van Pelt to succeed, but not only because he went to CSU. I hated Holland, our QB last year. I think Van Pelt is a hell of a footballer and has the intangibles that a QB needs to be truly great. I admit, last season he wasn't ready to make the squad, but Shanahan seems to think he has potential, which is why he put him on the PS to develop, let him hang out in the box during games, etc., instead of just cutting him. I'm optimistic that he's progressed enough to challenge for the #2 spot, but only camp will tell. I just don't see how anyone who's seen the kid play can deny that he could be great.
Great in college is one thing, and that is debateable as it is.

BVP is bound for another year on the Practice Squad, maybe two, and then cut.

[Rock Chalk]

Tenure, right. I forgot that having 30 billion nonsense posts makes someone's arguments more valid, no matter how moronic they are. If he's such a football guru, I'm sure he doesn't need you to stick up for him.
Have you ever read a post from him NOT concerning BVP? Having 263 nonsense posts defending BVP tends to make your arguments pretty invalid bud.

[scorpio]

Have you ever read a post from him NOT concerning BVP? Having 263 nonsense posts defending BVP tends to make your arguments pretty invalid bud.

This is hilarious. After Herc pretty much admits that he has no good reason for his blind hatred for BVP, you say "I agree with Herc because he's been here a long time!"

And MY arguments are invalid?

[bronco militia]

Have you ever read a post from him NOT concerning BVP? Having 263 nonsense posts defending BVP tends to make your arguments pretty invalid bud.


oops ...he must have forgot that the size of your dick errrrrrrrrrrr post count is always a factor when you don't agree with one another.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

This is hilarious. After Herc pretty much admits that he has no good reason for his blind hatred for BVP,

Really, I did? I've never thought the guys level of play was anywhere near the hype he received. Doesn't have a cannon and didn't play in that strong of a conference. He really didn't lead his team to much when playing on a team that was a superior talent compared to the rest of the MWC. Despite all this pub CSU got, didn't they only win the Mountain West once the entire time he was there? His only bowl win came against North Texas. I also don't like the fact that he's always willing to open his mouth, and then disappears if things don't go his way (see all his comments before his final CU game, and then tried to sneak on the team bus w/o addressing the media). Man up if you're not right, but don't call 950 from locker room after beating CU and then hide the next when you lose. BVP also did a ton of running at CSU, something that's he not going to be doing in the Broncos offense unless he switches positions.

[Rock Chalk]

oops ...he must have forgot that the size of your dick errrrrrrrrrrr post count is always a factor when you don't agree with one another.
obviously this doesnt apply to you.

Some schmuck comes on here thinking he knows something when I have been here for four years reading what various posters have to say. Some of the new guys are good posters, yes, even scorpiosnow at times, but Herc is a mainstay here and has been a fantastic poster on this board since the beginning. Has nothing to do with post count other thn the fact that he has a ****load of great posts.

[fontaine]

oops ...he must have forgot that the size of your dick errrrrrrrrrrr post count is always a factor when you don't agree with one another.


Yeah, everyone knows that with 40,000+ post or so Mock is the biggest d*ck around here.

Sorry, anyways carry on with the BVP thing.
:TJnPopps:

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

Anybody remember Brad's dad? He was a great linebacker for the Giants during their dark days of the 70s and early 80s. He was really big for a LB of that era, like 6'5', but he was mobile and smart, too.

I knew Brad. Great guy. Great athlete. Bradlee got his intenisty from his father but not his brashness. I believe he was the last ten letter man in the Big 10. 3 football, 3 basketball and 4 baseball. That was before freshmen could play football or basketball. He was drafted in the second round because everyone thought he would play baseball. He was a pitcher with a 90+ fastball and a wicked curve.

[orange crusher]

No, basing it on the fact that BVP played less than 10 minutes of pre-season last year, spent the entire year on teh PS, played in a sub par conference in college, was at best a project, went undrafted, has barely seen the field even in pre-season, played against mediocre competition and three guys named Plummer, Mauck and Kannell.

What exactly are you basing your opinion on? Your CSU colored glasses?

You could be talking about Rod Smith early in his career.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

You could be talking about Rod Smith early in his career.

So how many articles were written about Rod before his TD catch vs the Skins? There's a difference between someone who has been written about repeatedly, while accomplishing nothing for the Broncos, and someone who only started to be talked about after he began to make an impact.

[jonny1]

Lord, please let the offseason end . . .

[Rock Chalk]

You could be talking about Rod Smith early in his career.
Yeah, and how many of the thousands of players end up like Rod Smith?

[orange crusher]

Yeah, and how many of the thousands of players end up like Rod Smith?

Not many. For the record, I don't think BVP will end up being the calibur of player that Smith is. I do, however, think he has a chance to be a QB in the league. I just don't see any reason to bash the guy just because he hasn't shown anything yet.

[Cito Pelon]

Back on subjject, #9 said "I think I'm going to lead some team down the road to a championship. If it's this one, so be it."

That's a pretty strong statement. Next he'll think he can go to the Kremlin and get Kraft's ring back.

[orange crusher]

So how many articles were written about Rod before his TD catch vs the Skins? There's a difference between someone who has been written about repeatedly, while accomplishing nothing for the Broncos, and someone who only started to be talked about after he began to make an impact.

I think he just gets a lot of press because he played at a Colorado school. If they were writing a lot of articles about Smith back then, would everyone have been saying he was a pile of s**t that he was and that he would never amount to anything? My guess is that everyone would have backed him.

[Rock Chalk]

Not many. For the record, I don't think BVP will end up being the calibur of player that Smith is. I do, however, think he has a chance to be a QB in the league. I just don't see any reason to bash the guy just because he hasn't shown anything yet.
I never bashed him. All I did was express my opinion that he would never be an NFL QB. Thats all.

[orange crusher]

I never bashed him. All I did was express my opinion that he would never be an NFL QB. Thats all.

Sorry Alec, it wasn't meant to be a remark directed towards you, just a general statement. It seems that he does get bashed regularly here.

[Tombstone RJ]

When BVP makes an active NFL roster as a QB, you'll get your money.

You keep changing the rules.

[-Slap-]

You know whats lame? Your attempts to knock on Herc who, by virtue of tenure, has earned more respect around here than 99.99% of the posters. You are free to disagree with whomever you want, but just so you know, Id trust Herc's word on football matters as much as I trust -Slap- and that's saying something.

I'm glad to hear that, Alec. All I've ever asked is for you to obey my posts as you would the word of God.

[Nuggets4]

Back on subjject, #9 said "I think I'm going to lead some team down the road to a championship. If it's this one, so be it."

That's a pretty strong statement. Next he'll think he can go to the Kremlin and get Kraft's ring back.

10 years from now when he can't deliver is he gonna duck the media again?

[BRONCCRUSHFAN]

I think that alot of people in Central and Southern Colorado don't like BVP, because of his brashness in college. He has had, up to this point, success at every level that he has played. With that success come a certain brashness or swagger about himself. I remember another young QB that had a swagger and brashness about himself; which really turned off the local media. They gave him the nickname the Duke, because of that swagger. Now before I get flamed, I'm not saying BVP is anywhere near the QB that the Duke was (that would be plain stupid), I'm talking about the attitude, the swagger, the brashness, and all because he is confident about himself as a player. There has been some talk about success or lack thereof at the college level. I know of another QB that never took his team to the Rose Bowl, in fact never even came close to winning the Pac 10 (which at that time, if memeory serves, was considered a pretty weak conference and the main reason why he didn't win the Heismann). College success doesn't translate into pro success, Griese won the Big 10 and the Rose Bowl, has he really been successful at the pro level up to this point? In contrast, Brady didn't have the kind of success in college his predecessor had, however 3 Super Bowl wins later who would have thought it. It all breaks down to work ethic, and how much time you are willing to prepare, and understanding that this is a job beyond the practice field. Took Elway 3 years to understand it, and his last 3 years to capitalize on it. Back on subject. BVP did some dumb things in college, that has been rehashed several times on this thread, for which I don't care. It's the time and preperation that he puts in to this point, that I care about. To be honest, I'm not a huge homer of him, or of Mauck. I don't think either one has the "goods."

[Rock Chalk]

I'm glad to hear that, Alec. All I've ever asked is for you to obey my posts as you would the word of God.

Keep ****ing dreaming asswipe.

[Sodak]

I gotta support BVP. I hope the best for the kid, and would love to see him succeed.

The Broncos coaching staff are better at evaluating talent than any of us pinheads on this message board. What the does anyone here really know about his potential? When the broncos pull the plug on their "project" BVP, I'll withdraw my support.