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PatsWin2002
06-29-2005, 06:22 AM
We're just gonna have to win another ......


http://www.boston.com/news/world/europe/articles/2005/06/29/for_putin_its_a_gem_of_a_cultural_exchange/

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Robert Kraft (L) and Rupert Murdoch watched President Vladimir Putin try on the Patriots ring before he pocketed it. (Kommersant Photo / Dmitry Azarov)

For Putin, it's a gem of a cultural exchange
Kraft hands over Super Bowl ring

By Donovan Slack, Globe Staff | June 29, 2005

It could be an international incident of sorts, a misunderstanding of Super Bowl proportions. Or it could be a very, very generous gift.

Whatever the case, New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft is out one championship ring, and President Vladimir Putin of Russia has scooped up some very flashy bling.

At a meeting of American business executives and Putin on Saturday in Russia, according to Russian news reports, Kraft showed his 4.94-carat, diamond-encrusted 2005 Super Bowl ring to the Russian president, who, after trying it on, put it in his pocket and left.

It was unclear yesterday whether Kraft intended to give Putin the ring. It was just two weeks ago that he presented this year's championship baubles to Patriots players at his Brookline manse. A Patriots spokesman said yesterday that Kraft was still traveling overseas and could not be reached for comment.

While gifts to heads of state are customary, a token of this magnitude would be highly unusual because of its cost, one specialist said.

''That's sort of something that's outside the box," said Walter C. Carrington, Simmons College professor and a former US ambassador to Senegal and Nigeria. ''A personal thing, a piece of clothing or a ring like that, that is sort of unusual."

This year's ring, billed as the heaviest in Super Bowl history, is studded with 124 diamonds, including a marquise for each of the three Vince Lombardi trophies depicted on its face. Under Kraft's ownership, the Patriots have won three of the last four Super Bowls. Each year's ring, which the team helps design, has been more glitzy than the last. The team would not disclose the value of Kraft's 2005 ring, saying only that it is ''a lot more" than $15,000.

The meeting at the Konstantinovsky Palace near Leningrad featured a virtual who's who of American business, including chief executives from IBM, Intel, Citigroup, and International Paper, according to a report in Kommersant, a leading Russian business newspaper. Kraft's business holdings beyond the Patriots include paper and packaging companies and venture capital investments.

After talking privately for two hours about foreign investment, the group held a press conference, during which Kraft handed Putin the ring, the news report said. And after a few moments, the Russian president began to admire it, smiling as he modeled it on his hand.

''It's a Super Bowl ring," Kraft declared. ''It's a very good ring."

Putin then pocketed the trinket and bade goodbye to his guests, according to Kommersant's report.

Tokens given to the Russian president are normally kept in the Russian state treasury, but in this case, the Super Bowl ring was deposited in the Kremlin library, Kommersant reported.

Yevgeniy Khorishko, a spokesman at the Russian embassy in Washington, would not say yesterday whether there had been any request to retrieve the ring.

Getting the ring back would be exceptionally touchy, Carrington said. Still, he had some advice about how it might be done.

''He should talk to someone who's close to the president to kind of explain that this is a very treasured thing," Carrington said. ''Then just sort of ask when he could expect it back."

The request could be accompanied by a more modest gift, perhaps a souvenir football, he suggested. Carrington said that while he was an ambassador, he often received unusual gifts.

''Sometimes you get a goat or a cow," he said. ''Then I'd tell my aide to take care of it. It would be an insult to give it back."

The best resolution is easy, Carrington said with a laugh: ''Win another Super Bowl."

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Beantown Bronco
06-29-2005, 06:24 AM
friggin' commies....

fontaine
06-29-2005, 06:30 AM
At a meeting of American business executives and Putin on Saturday in Russia, according to Russian news reports, Kraft showed his 4.94-carat, diamond-encrusted 2005 Super Bowl ring to the Russian president, who, after trying it on, put it in his pocket and left.

It was unclear yesterday whether Kraft intended to give Putin the ring. It was just two weeks ago that he presented this year's championship baubles to Patriots players at his Brookline manse. A Patriots spokesman said yesterday that Kraft was still traveling overseas and could not be reached for comment.


rofl

That's what you get for trusting a russian!

Garcia Bronco
06-29-2005, 06:33 AM
May this be the curse that breaks your back...ha-ha...hahaha....muhahahahaha!

Beantown Bronco
06-29-2005, 06:35 AM
Kraft is a freakin' billionaire. Why doesn't he just make himself another?

Nuggets4
06-29-2005, 06:44 AM
''Sometimes you get a goat or a cow," he said. ''Then I'd tell my aide to take care of it. It would be an insult to give it back."

There's your solution right there. Give him a goat for the ring.

Garcia Bronco
06-29-2005, 09:56 AM
A curse I say...a curse!!!!

PatsWin2002
06-29-2005, 10:01 AM
A curse I say...a curse!!!!

Nope! All curses have been broken.

Garcia Bronco
06-29-2005, 10:19 AM
Nope! All curses have been broken.


:unamused: Apparently.


;D

Rohirrim
06-29-2005, 10:40 AM
Robert: "Uh, excuse me, Vlad? Could I have my ring back?"

Vlad: "Ring? What ring? Oh. That ring. Why of course. We have it in the old KGB vault. Just go down those stairs. That's right. All the way to the bottom. Knock on that door. That's right. Just tell them you want the ring back. Go ahead, Robert. Just go in that door..."

Beantown Bronco
06-29-2005, 11:13 AM
I wonder how much Smirnoff Kraft downed after that little visit.

PatsWin2002
06-29-2005, 11:19 AM
I wonder how much Smirnoff Kraft downed after that little visit.

I'm sure it wasn't $25,000 worth. :laugh:

Boogerboots
06-29-2005, 12:21 PM
On a prorated scale, that's like me losing 5 bucks to a Russian pickpocket. I'm sure Mr. Kraft will get over it.

Then again... I wonder if the CIA placed a bug in that thing?? Maybe this is part of an even bigger plot. :kiddingme

bendog
06-29-2005, 12:52 PM
haha, first I get the US qWagmired in their own ME afghanastan clusterF5ck, and now I take all the oil for me, and now I get this ring. I love America.

MT-Tdawg
06-29-2005, 12:58 PM
The way things are in Russia, it will be on E-bay by midnite.

SoCalBronco
06-29-2005, 01:53 PM
There's your solution right there. Give him a goat for the ring.

That might work in Misseri but not for a New England man like Kraft.

Pezman
06-29-2005, 01:56 PM
We're just gonna have to win another ......

You're such a spoiled lil biotch! If Kraft wins another one, I swear the rest of the NFL should kick the state of Mass. out of the union. :moody:

PatsWin2002
06-29-2005, 02:20 PM
You're such a spoiled lil biotch! If Kraft wins another one, I swear the rest of the NFL should kick the state of Mass. out of the union. :moody:

It could happen! :super:

(BTW, Massachusetts is a Commonwealth and not a "State"! rofl )

PatsWin2002
06-29-2005, 02:24 PM
UPDATE!

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2005/06/29/kraft_i_gave_putin_my_super_bowl_ring_as_a_gift/

Kraft: I gave Putin my Super Bowl ring as a gift
By Boston.com Staff And Associated Press | June 29, 2005

It seems Patriots owner Robert Kraft intended to give Russian President Vladimir Putin his 2005 Super Bowl ring after all.

In a statement released by the Patriots today, Kraft said, "At the end of a very productive three-hour business meeting with President Putin ... I showed the president my most recent Super Bowl ring. Upon seeing the ring, President Putin, a great and knowledgeable sports fan, was clearly taken with its uniqueness. At that point, I decided to give him the ring as a symbol of the respect and admiration that I have for the Russian people and the leadership of President Putin."

Kraft showed the ring to Putin following a meeting of American business executives and Putin at Konstantinovsky Palace near St. Petersburg on Saturday. According to Russian news reports, Putin tried it on, put it in his pocket and left.

Until now, it was unclear whether Kraft intended to give Putin the ring or if the Russian president had taken it or accidentally walked off with it.

"I have ancestors from Russia, so it added significance for me to know that something so cherished would reside at the Kremlin along with other special gifts given to Russian presidents," Kraft went on to say in the statement. "It was truly an act of serendipity and one that I am honored to have experienced. It touched me to see President Putin's reaction to the ring and I felt, emotionally, that it was the right way to conclude an exceptional meeting."

A Kremlin official who spoke to the Associated Press on condition of anonymity out of fear of compromising his position said the ring was a present. "Such a present was made," the official said.

He said Putin had given the ring to the Kremlin library where other foreign gifts are kept.

Patriots public relations director Stacey James said the ring's worth was "substantially more" than $15,000, as the value had been reported. He refused to be specific, but noted that the ring has 124 diamonds.

Kraft handed out Super Bowl rings to players and coaches at his home two weeks ago.

The Patriots have won three of the last four Super Bowls.

scorpio
06-29-2005, 03:38 PM
And here I was hoping this would be the start of an international incident. I can just imagine Dubya sending Delta Force over to get the bling back.

TheDave
06-29-2005, 03:42 PM
And here I was hoping this would be the start of an international incident. I can just imagine Dubya sending Delta Force over to get the bling back.

While we are there get the 1972 Olympic Basketball gold medals back!

TheReverend
06-29-2005, 04:32 PM
A gift... ****... now even the Russians love the Patriots.

PatsWin2002
06-29-2005, 05:04 PM
It's all the chatter here.....people think Putin is an ass and should give it back. It has no meaning to him.

As a sports radio caller said, "Now even Putin has a Superbowl ring.....imagine how Dan Marino feels." Ha!

SoCalBronco
06-29-2005, 05:06 PM
As a sports radio caller said, "Now even Putin has a Superbowl ring.....imagine how Dan Marino feels." Ha!

rofl

Broncobuddy7
06-29-2005, 08:45 PM
Does anyone know where I can find a picture of the Anaheim Angels 2002 World Series Ring? My boss who's a huge Angels fan can't find a picture of it on the internet to save his life. I've also spent some time looking with no success. If anyone can help me it would be greatly appreciated.

PatsWin2002
06-29-2005, 09:39 PM
Does anyone know where I can find a picture of the Anaheim Angels 2002 World Series Ring? My boss who's a huge Angels fan can't find a picture of it on the internet to save his life. I've also spent some time looking with no success. If anyone can help me it would be greatly appreciated.

Two versions of the same pic ....not easy to find. :)

http://www.intergoldltd.com/Images/angels_champ_ring.jpg

http://www.exemplarinc.com/images/Athletic%20page/destinationalbum/images/Angels_02_jpg.jpg

Broncobuddy7
06-30-2005, 05:50 AM
Two versions of the same pic ....not easy to find. :)

http://www.intergoldltd.com/Images/angels_champ_ring.jpg

http://www.exemplarinc.com/images/Athletic%20page/destinationalbum/images/Angels_02_jpg.jpg

Thank you for your help! I've been looking all over for a picture of that ring.

Cito Pelon
06-30-2005, 09:32 AM
This is one strange and hilarious (ina perverted sense) story.

Bush loves Putin, and apparently so does Kraft, and this guy screws our country over all the time! Maybe they should emigrate to Russia, they might like it better there.

Pisses me off Putin has a Super Bowl ring less than 2 weeks old, I don't care how he got it.

clarker
06-30-2005, 09:16 PM
They just said on 950 The Fan that Putin pocketing the Super Bowl ring is part of the "tuck rule".

baja
06-30-2005, 09:34 PM
You're such a spoiled lil biotch! If Kraft wins another one, I swear the rest of the NFL should kick the state of Mass. out of the union. :moody:


Know what the rest of New England calls Mass. drivers?

Mass -holes!

TheChamp247
07-01-2005, 01:14 AM
he gave him the ring out of respect and admiration! wtf? just another reason to hate the pats, they r run by commies!

Meck77
07-01-2005, 01:24 AM
. At that point, I decided to give him the ring as a symbol of the respect and admiration that I have for the Russian people and the leadership of President Putin."

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Admiration of Russian leadership? :crazy: The communists have murdered millions upon millions of their own people! Infact the SOB Putin just tried to rig the Ukrainian election by supporting Yanokovich while Putins thugs tried to kill the democratic front runner of the people Yushchenko. What a joke.

Thank God Colin Powell got invoved when the Russians were mobilizing their tanks to move into Ukraine. I bet you guys didn't hear about that did you?

My family in Ukraine told me about what was going on it the presidential race last year. There were communists (putin's guys) with pipes beating people up who were trying to go vote.

**** Kraft. Idiot.

Infact I told a bit of this story the other day on another thread. You want to know what happened in Ukraine and find out about the corruption?

Click here.

http://wfrv.com/ukraine/ This are clips of my cousin who covered the entire orange revolution for GreenBay news. That pic on the right is her. Mock I know you are luking. Stay away from her.

Taco John
07-01-2005, 01:48 AM
Pooty Poot gives me the willies... Something about the guy just raises the hair on the back of my neck.

...aside from the fact that he's a black belt master in Judo and could probably kill me before I realize he wasn't actually giving a handshake...

Kaylore
07-01-2005, 02:09 AM
Pooty Poot gives me the willies... Something about the guy just raises the hair on the back of my neck.

...aside from the fact that he's a black belt master in Judo and could probably kill me before I realize he wasn't actually giving a handshake...
It might be that he's basically as close to a dictator as you can get without actually being one. His martial arts skills are rooted in his KGB background.

Meck77
07-01-2005, 07:45 AM
It might be that he's basically as close to a dictator as you can get without actually being one. His martial arts skills are rooted in his KGB background.

Well if you say so Kaylore but Putin basically seized one of the largest corporations in Russia last year and thru the owner in prison. I forget the business name. It was big news for a bit. Oh and democratic leaders still disappear mysteriously in Ukraine and Russia btw. Let me stop beating around the Bush. He's a dictator.

PatsWin2002
07-01-2005, 07:51 AM
Meck, you gotta take the bus over there and get the ring back.....kinda like Bill Murray and Harold Ramis did in Stripes.

Replace the satellite dish with a flamethrower and you'll be all set to go.

Let me know how it turns out. :)

Nuggets4
07-01-2005, 08:36 AM
http://wfrv.com/ukraine/ This are clips of my cousin who covered the entire orange revolution for GreenBay news. That pic on the right is her. Mock I know you are luking. Stay away from her.

Mock wouldn't hit on her. He's not related to her.