Iraq insurgency in 'last throes,' Cheney says... Is Cheney a Liar?

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Looks like to me he is.

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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The insurgency in Iraq is "in the last throes," Vice President Dick Cheney says, and he predicts that the fighting will end before the Bush administration leaves office.

In a wide-ranging interview Monday on CNN's "Larry King Live," Cheney cited the recent push by Iraqi forces to crack down on insurgent activity in Baghdad and reports that the most-wanted terrorist leader, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, had been wounded.

The vice president said he expected the war would end during President Bush's second term, which ends in 2009.

"I think we may well have some kind of presence there over a period of time," Cheney said. "The level of activity that we see today from a military standpoint, I think, will clearly decline. I think they're in the last throes, if you will, of the insurgency."
http://tinyurl.com/8oxco



Top Commander Says Insurgency Still Strong

By LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press

WASHINGTON - The top American commander in the Persian Gulf told Congress on Thursday that the Iraqi insurgency has not grown weaker over the past six months, despite a claim by Vice President
Dick Cheney that it was in its "last throes."
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[Spider]

I dont know how Cheney could claim that , specialy when we dont have a freaking clue how many insurgenets there is ....... They are comming from Africa , all over ...... But then this is the same adinistratio nthat claimed they had 75 % of Al Qadea locked up without knowing how many Al Qadea had ........

[Crushaholic]

This is damage control after polls showing support for the war in Iraq slipping.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Is Cheney a Liar?

Is the bear catholic? Does a pope shyte in the woods? :D

GoFyourself's statement contradicts everything his own generals in the field are telling him, but what's new?

[RaiderH8r]

I dont know how Cheney could claim that , specialy when we dont have a freaking clue how many insurgenets there is ....... They are comming from Africa , all over ...... But then this is the same adinistratio nthat claimed they had 75 % of Al Qadea locked up without knowing how many Al Qadea had ........
Liar or not remains to be seen but you've made a good point. Let them come from all over the world to fight. Either they come to you to be killed or they stay in Africa and all over and we have to go country to country to knock them off. Hmmm. Furthermore, if they're all going to Iraq to fight they're not hijacking planes to kill unwitting civilians. Hmmm.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Liar or not remains to be seen but you've made a good point. Let them come from all over the world to fight. Either they come to you to be killed or they stay in Africa and all over and we have to go country to country to knock them off. Hmmm. Furthermore, if they're all going to Iraq to fight they're not hijacking planes to kill unwitting civilians. Hmmm.
Problem with this is they are returning back to other countries after learning the "tools of the trade".

A handful of Islamic fighters were believed to be returning to their home countries as well — people who can plan, work communications devices and design and set off explosives, the officer said.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,159563,00.html

[RaiderH8r]

Problem with this is they are returning back to other countries after learning the "tools of the trade".


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,159563,00.html
They were learning the tools of the trade before. And I'm sure plenty are staying to fight. The jihadists will not cease their operations simply because the US pulls out of Iraq or closes bases in Saudi Arabia.

[Spider]

Liar or not remains to be seen but you've made a good point. Let them come from all over the world to fight. Either they come to you to be killed or they stay in Africa and all over and we have to go country to country to knock them off. Hmmm. Furthermore, if they're all going to Iraq to fight they're not hijacking planes to kill unwitting civilians. Hmmm.
go to country to country hey ? Let them all come to Iraq to fight ...... wouldnt it be better not pissing off these people ?
I dont buy all this terrorist everywhere crap , when we busted up afghanastan , we did a # on al Qadea , Now we are Creating more Hatred with Iraq ...... we are creating these terrorist ........

[RaiderH8r]

go to country to country hey ? Let them all come to Iraq to fight ...... wouldnt it be better not pissing off these people ?
I dont buy all this terrorist everywhere crap , when we busted up afghanastan , we did a # on al Qadea , Now we are Creating more Hatred with Iraq ...... we are creating these terrorist ........
Spider, if we did nothing else in the world besides use 2-ply toilet paper they would hate us for that because it would violate the Qu'ran in some fashion and the jihad would be on.

[Spider]

Spider, if we did nothing else in the world besides use 2-ply toilet paper they would hate us for that because it would violate the Qu'ran in some fashion and the jihad would be on.
I see , so no matter what we do , they will be pissed , so why not invade Iraq ?
Ok , using that doctorine , why didnt we bust up Sadia Arabia ? Saudia Arabia has always been a hot bed for Terrorist , I cant find it now , but I posted a deal showing Saudis were alot more active in Funding Hamaas , then Iraq , then the whole Whabbism thing .... So using your docotrine , they will be pissed no matter what , why didnt we attack the real hotbed of terrorism ?

[RaiderH8r]

I see , so no matter what we do , they will be pissed , so why not invade Iraq ?
Ok , using that doctorine , why didnt we bust up Sadia Arabia ? Saudia Arabia has always been a hot bed for Terrorist , I cant find it now , but I posted a deal showing Saudis were alot more active in Funding Hamaas , then Iraq , then the whole Whabbism thing .... So using your docotrine , they will be pissed no matter what , why didnt we attack the real hotbed of terrorism ?
I don't mind putting a collective beat down on the entire region. Israel is the only ally over there. I'm up on Israel. I've said it before, 500K landing in Israel and Kuwait and roll east baby....roll east.

[Spider]

I don't mind putting a collective beat down on the entire region. Israel is the only ally over there. I'm up on Israel. I've said it before, 500K landing in Israel and Kuwait and roll east baby....roll east.
I see , so basicaly kill them all let god sort em out doctorine ?
well that is about the only way to answer my question about Saudia Arabia ....

[RaiderH8r]

I see , so basicaly kill them all let god sort em out doctorine ?
well that is about the only way to answer my question about Saudia Arabia ....
Not kill'em all, just the ones that fight, aid, plan. You know...the jihadists.

[Spider]

Not kill'em all, just the ones that fight, aid, plan. You know...the jihadists.
How do we tell the difference ? we have that Problem now , we also had it in Nam .....
Here is a point , in Nam or anywhere else , we had a green zone ,a place where it was safe , our soldiers could let their gaurd down , in Iraq we dont have a real greenzone , and our green zone in Afghan , is only 3 miles ...... what does that tell you ?

[RaiderH8r]

How do we tell the difference ? we have that Problem now , we also had it in Nam .....
Here is a point , in Nam or anywhere else , we had a green zone ,a place where it was safe , our soldiers could let their gaurd down , in Iraq we dont have a real greenzone , and our green zone in Afghan , is only 3 miles ...... what does that tell you ?
Tells me we need to quit holding hands and start kicking ass.

[Spider]

Tells me we need to quit holding hands and start kicking ass.
It tels me we are covering to much territory , without proper logistics to handle this , IE this entire thing is mis managed , poorly planed war , we took territory , but we couldnt hold it ...... Maybe just maybe we left Afghanastan way too early ?
This entire War on terror has screw up written all over it ........
we went into Iraq when we didnt have to , we wasted men , Money , Equipment , severly needed in Afghan ......

[Spider]

you have to kick ass , but you have to be smart about it ......

[RaiderH8r]

you have to kick ass , but you have to be smart about it ......
The Kumbayah handholding crybaby because of a wet towel snap to the ass in Gitmo crowd boo hoos and cries torture and Nazi if one of our boys has the temerity to fart in the direction of a jihadist. We've got Durbin giving sound bytes to Al Jazeera and people calling for a timetable to move out. Let me ask you this, if you're in a fight and losing but you know that no matter what if you can hold out the individual giving the beating is going to be forced to flat out stop and leave. Do you quit immediately or are you emboldened to hold out until the thumper has to leave? Does knowing that there is a definitive end in sight that if achieved will bring an end to your beatdown and allow you to go on your merry way v. uncertainty of whether the beatings will ever cease unless you submit?

[Spider]

The Kumbayah handholding crybaby because of a wet towel snap to the ass in Gitmo crowd boo hoos and cries torture and Nazi if one of our boys has the temerity to fart in the direction of a jihadist. We've got Durbin giving sound bytes to Al Jazeera and people calling for a timetable to move out. If only that was the truth , but sadly it isnt , noone wants to bring up the Taxi/Farmer beat to death in afghan ... Abu Grabass , etc ...... Here is my entire problem , and what gets me about others is , We are a nation of Laws , We are better then this , and at no time do we side step our laws ....


Let me ask you this, if you're in a fight and losing but you know that no matter what if you can hold out the individual giving the beating is going to be forced to flat out stop and leave. Do you quit immediately or are you emboldened to hold out until the thumper has to leave? Does knowing that there is a definitive end in sight that if achieved will bring an end to your beatdown and allow you to go on your merry way v. uncertainty of whether the beatings will ever cease unless you submit?
depends on the time line , if it is a few weeks , or a few years ?
How much resources do I have left ?
do I control anything or am I contining on with Gorrlia attacks and retrograde tactics ?
all of these will factor in ...... the overall argument of the whitehouse , is if we give them a time table , they will do xyand z , thats doesnt even scratch the surface , I think the reason for the time table is Iraqis are starting to turn on us ......

[RaiderH8r]

If only that was the truth , but sadly it isnt , noone wants to bring up the Taxi/Farmer beat to death in afghan ... Abu Grabass , etc ...... Here is my entire problem , and what gets me about others is , We are a nation of Laws , We are better then this , and at no time do we side step our laws ....



depends on the time line , if it is a few weeks , or a few years ?
How much resources do I have left ?
do I control anything or am I contining on with Gorrlia attacks and retrograde tactics ?
all of these will factor in ...... the overall argument of the whitehouse , is if we give them a time table , they will do xyand z , thats doesnt even scratch the surface , I think the reason for the time table is Iraqis are starting to turn on us ......
We are a nation of laws. But these people are not citizens and not due the same processes that American Citizens are. They are combatants in a war and entitled to all that covers, up to and including a wet towel snap on the ass.

The timeline issue gives them a level of certainty that allows for planning. You can ration your resources, you can alter your attack strategy and tactics based on knowledge of actions your opponent is certain to take. The jihadists should have no certainty, no clue, no idea and should receive no mercy. They should be erradicated. And God forbid should we use misinformation against our enemies in today's political climate. Durbin might use the liar liar pants on fire preach on the Senate floor.

[Montaq]

We are a nation of laws. But these people are not citizens and not due the same processes that American Citizens are. They are combatants in a war and entitled to all that covers, up to and including a wet towel snap on the ass.


So they are subject to the guidelines of the Geneva Convention? ???

[RaiderH8r]

So they are subject to the guidelines of the Geneva Convention? ???
Apparently not according to article 4 of the Geneva Conventions. And since the proposition of a War Tribunal to determine the status of detainees has been summarily protested by the left Article 5 seems to be irrelevant as well.

[Rigs11]

Did anyone watch Dubya today? After him and al-jaffari were done talking about how much progress had been made in Iraq, a reporter asked Dubya if he supported what Cheney had stated about the insurgency being "in the last throes" even though the top commander had stated that the insurgency had not dimished any in the last 6 months. Of course Dubya spat out his usual crap without answering the question. Something about how "the killers were trying to shake our will", blah blah blah. I had to turn the channel I was so embarrased. I flipped back to it about 5 minutes later and he was spewing the same line about the "killers trying to shake our will".How anyone can still support this moron is beyond me.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

The Kumbayah handholding crybaby because of a wet towel snap to the ass in Gitmo crowd boo hoos and cries torture and Nazi if one of our boys has the temerity to fart in the direction of a jihadist. We've got Durbin giving sound bytes to Al Jazeera and people calling for a timetable to move out. Let me ask you this, if you're in a fight and losing but you know that no matter what if you can hold out the individual giving the beating is going to be forced to flat out stop and leave. Do you quit immediately or are you emboldened to hold out until the thumper has to leave? Does knowing that there is a definitive end in sight that if achieved will bring an end to your beatdown and allow you to go on your merry way v. uncertainty of whether the beatings will ever cease unless you submit?

WTF would a chickenhawk such as yourself know about fighting, anyway?

With all of your tough talk I would think you'd be shagging ass down to your local recruiter's office to enlist and to volunteer for Iraq duty (since you're such a staunch supporter of the war and such a "patriot.")

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Did anyone watch Dubya today? After him and al-jaffari were done talking about how much progress had been made in Iraq, a reporter asked Dubya if he supported what Cheney had stated about the insurgency being "in the last throes" even though the top commander had stated that the insurgency had not dimished any in the last 6 months. Of course Dubya spat out his usual crap without answering the question. Something about how "the killers were trying to shake our will", blah blah blah. I had to turn the channel I was so embarrased. I flipped back to it about 5 minutes later and he was spewing the same line about the "killers trying to shake our will".How anyone can still support this moron is beyond me.

Like the pinhead himself, bush supporters create (and live in) their own weird alternate reality where truth, facts, and logic are irrelevant.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

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[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Is Dick Cheney the New 'Baghdad Bob'?

Is it just me, or is Vice President Cheney, who repeated Thursday that the Iraq insurgency is in its final throes, starting to sound like former Saddam spokesman, "Baghdad Bob?'

Is it time to start calling him "D.C. Dick?"

http://editorandpublisher.com/eandp/columns/pressingissues_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=10009678 45

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[Bronco_Beerslug]

I'd forgotten some of the assnine things this guy was spouting...


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Here are a few Baghdad Bob classics from the spring of 2003 (courtesy of one of his Web shrines, We Love the Iraqi Information Minister), verbatim. See if you can imagine them coming out of the mouth of our vice president speaking to the press today.

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"No, I am not scared, and neither should you be."

"Be assured: Baghdad is safe, protected."

"We are in control, they are not in control of anything, they don't even control themselves!"

"The battle is very fierce and God will make us victorious."

"They think that by killing civilians and trying to distort the feelings of the people they will win."

"I have detailed information about the situation...which completely proves that what they allege are illusions . . . They lie every day."

"I blame Al-Jazeera."

"Those are not Iraqis at all. Where did they bring them from?"

"I can assure you that those villains will recognize in the future how they are pretending things which have never taken place."

"I would like to clarify a simple fact here: How can you lay siege to a whole country? Who is really under siege now?"

"We're giving them a real lesson today. Heavy doesn't accurately describe the level of casualties we have inflicted."

"The American press is all about lies! All they tell is lies, lies, and more lies!"

"They are becoming hysterical. This is the result of frustration."

"I speak better English than Bush."

"Just look carefully, I only want you to look carefully. Do not repeat the lies of liars. Do not become like them."

"Search for the truth. I tell you things and I always ask you to verify what I say."

"The United Nations...it is all their fault."

"Even those who live on another planet, if there are such people, would condemn them."

"This is unbiased: They are retreating on all fronts. Their effort is a subject of laughter throughout the world."

"The force that was near the airport, this force was destroyed."

"They are achieving nothing; they are suffering from casualties. Those casualties are increasing, not decreasing."

"Our estimates are that none of them will come out alive unless they surrender to us quickly."

"They hold no place in Iraq. This is an illusion."

"Once again, I blame al-Jazeera. Please, make sure of what you say and do not play such a role."

"Most of you probably saw the movie 'Wag the Dog'. I hope you remember it."

"These cowards have no morals. They have no shame about lying."

"You can go and visit those places. Everything is okay. They are not in Najaf. They are nowhere. They are on the moon."

"Those Iraqi fighters are slapping those gangsters on the face, and then when they flee, they will kick their backsides."

"Rumsfeld, he needs to be hit on the head."

[errand]

Problem with this is they are returning back to other countries after learning the "tools of the trade".




...or after they get fitted for a body bag.

I prefer to support those that would send them packing in body bags, you prefer to give them the same unalienated rights as US citizens enjoy.

[errand]

I dont know how Cheney could claim that , specialy when we dont have a freaking clue how many insurgenets there is ....... They are comming from Africa , all over ...... But then this is the same adinistratio nthat claimed they had 75 % of Al Qadea locked up without knowing how many Al Qadea had ........

......they claimed to have imprisoned or killed 75% of al-Qadea's leadership...afterall, the best way to kill a snake is to cut off it's head.

BTW if those clowns you support with you leftist words and deeds want to come to Iraq like a moth to a bug light...let 'em...our boys will arrange it so they can meet allah.

[errand]

Not kill'em all, just the ones that fight, aid, plan. You know...the jihadists.

...yeah, but what are we to do about the leftists in this country that help these jihadists in their fight? rofl

[errand]

Here is my entire problem , and what gets me about others is , We are a nation of Laws , We are better then this , and at no time do we side step our laws ....





....what laws did our troops sidestep there Spider? Or are you still supporting Dick "our troops are like the Nazi's" Durben and his malicious comments?

[errand]

So they are subject to the guidelines of the Geneva Convention? ???

Actually? No, they are not protected by the Geneva Convention.

So technically we could cut their freaking nuts off and make them scream for mommy if we wanted to...but we don't. We treat them the same as if they actually met the criteria for protection under the Geneva Convention.

To fit the criteria for treatment afforded to enemy combatants via the Genevea Convention, they would have to wear some form of identification that tells others they are engaged in the war...like wearing of uniforms, rank insignia, arm bands, etc. none of those in Getmo meet that criteria.

For instance...in the US was invaded, and a bunch of good 'ol boys in pick-up trucks armed with beer cans, deer rifles, and shotguns attacked an enemy position....any of them captured by the enemy would not fall under the criteria that affords them protection under the Geneva Convention. NASCAR decals and Confederate flags don't count as legitimate insignia.

Another criteria is that is that they follow the rules of war.....which basically means that they are allowed to shoot at and kill their opposing combatants...not civilians. now we all know that there is the very high probability of civilians dying while the combatants are engaged in battle....but that too is outlined and covered under collateral damage amendments.

See, if those same good 'ol boys set off a bomb outside a military instalation, and a few civilian workers get killed, that is legal under the Geneva Convention's rules of war...but if they walked into a mosque and blew themselves up and all inside, and there were no military personnel or weaponry there....well, again, they are not afforded protection under the Geneva Convention.

Now can you name one guy imprisoned at Getmo that wore a uniform, or used the proper rules of engagement?

[errand]

BTW...does anyone have the number of those released from Getmo that have been either re-captured or killed?

[errand]

The average prisoner in Getmo has gained 7 pounds....must be eating pretty damn good if you ask me. No...wait, our troops according to the Democratic left are like the Nazi's....you don't suppose that our troops are fatting up these hostages (evidently the left thinks they're being held against their will and without any reason) so they can be eaten after they are cooked in the Buchenwald ovens?

BTW, I wonder if al-Qadea gave Nick Berg a holy book to read before they cut his freaking head off?

[DBruleU]

The average prisoner in Getmo has gained 7 pounds....must be eating pretty damn good if you ask me. No...wait, our troops according to the Democratic left are like the Nazi's....you don't suppose that our troops are fatting up these hostages (evidently the left thinks they're being held against their will and without any reason) so they can be eaten after they are cooked in the Buchenwald ovens?

BTW, I wonder if al-Qadea gave Nick Berg a holy book to read before they cut his freaking head off?

But we must be very sympathetic to these people. We caused them a world of hurt over time, and its our fault. We deserve everything we get. We just need to listen to these people, and not fight them. I'm sure we can work something out with the jihadists, they are just mis-understood. ::)

[TheDave]

The average prisoner in Getmo has gained 7 pounds....


Even people in our prisons are getting fat...

[Spider]

....what laws did our troops sidestep there Spider? Or are you still supporting Dick "our troops are like the Nazi's" Durben and his malicious comments?
LOL . if you have to ask you dont know then .. Maybe it is better you run around not knowing what is going on ...... If you stopped and look @ reality you probably couldnt cope ...... Hell you were scared shítless of Saddam , Reality is a lot more menacing .......

[Spider]

But we must be very sympathetic to these people. We caused them a world of hurt over time, and its our fault. We deserve everything we get. We just need to listen to these people, and not fight them. I'm sure we can work something out with the jihadists, they are just mis-understood. ::)
LOL ..... I will cut you a break here .....

[Spider]

LOL .after reading some of the right wingers post here I have come to this conclusion , Some here believe that our Prision life is pretty good , a Club med , if that is the case , if our Prisions are as soft as Errand would have us Believe , no wonder terrorism is up , Hell these guys get caught , then live the good life and gain wieght .......

[Rascal]

Have any of you guys ever visited a real prison?

I have and they get treated very well. They have TV's, radios, books, etc.

[TheDave]

Have any of you guys ever visited a real prison?

I have and they get treated very well. They have TV's, radios, books, etc.

See i watched way too much OZ... I wouldn't last 10 sec's in any prison

[Rascal]

I'm pretty sure they would make you last after hearing the stories form our survivor game :)

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Once again, errant's idiotic Limbaughisms about "enemy combatants" presupposes that everyone being held in Gitmo or Abu Ghraib is an enemy combatant - when we already know from experience that many of these people have turned out to be innocent civilians. For example, we have already learned that many of the people being held at Gitmo are innocent civilians who were turned in by the Afghan warlords for the reward money. And after the Abu Ghraib torture scandal came to light, our own intelligence agencies acknowledged that as many as 90% of the Iraqis being held in that prison were innocent civilians who were arrested by mistake.

With errant's disrespect for due process and the rule of law, he would be better suited for citizenship in some totalitarian state like the former Soviet Union than America.

In the meantime, I'm sure errant and ditto monkeys like him will continue to bend over backwards in their efforts to inflame/alienate the entire Muslim world and to recruit new jihadists for Bin Laden.

Too bad there's nothing they can do to help recruit fellow chickenhawks and GeeDubya/Iraq war supporters to do the actual fighting in Iraq, what with the current enlistment shortfalls.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

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[Spider]

Have any of you guys ever visited a real prison?

I have and they get treated very well. They have TV's, radios, books, etc.
LOL visted ..... you could say that ....... Prision 1 thing matters holding your mud and not talking out the side of your Neck when someone does you a solid ..... Dont be a bad ass , but if someone comes stepping into youres , you better back him off , or have a set of tits .....

[Spider]

See i watched way too much OZ... I wouldn't last 10 sec's in any prison
I came damn close , got a Reprieve , My cousin didnt , He is doing the Big Bitch ... you have to be an animal ........

[errand]

LOL . if you have to ask you dont know then .. Maybe it is better you run around not knowing what is going on ...... If you stopped and look @ reality you probably couldnt cope ...... Hell you were scared shítless of Saddam , Reality is a lot more menacing .......

....how about a specific list of US laws sidestepped by our troops? Your the one making the accusation that our boys are sidestepping laws....name them.

[Spider]

....how about a specific list of US laws sidestepped by our troops? Your the one making the accusation that our boys are sidestepping laws....name them.
Are you realy this Fúcking stupid ? well in case you are
ARTICLE 15-6 INVESTIGATION OF THE 800th MILITARY POLICE BRIGADE


TABLE OF CONTENTS

References …………………………………………†¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦ 3

Background …………………………………………†¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦ 6

Assessment of DoD Counter-Terrorism Interrogation
and Detention Operations In Iraq
(MG Miller’s Assessment).……….…………........... 8

IO Comments on MG Miller’s Assessment..……… 8

Report on Detention and Corrections In Iraq
(MG Ryder’s Report).................................... 9

IO Comments on MG Ryder’s Report…...………… 12

Preliminary Investigative Actions ……………….. 12

Findings and Recommendations

Part One (Detainee Abuse). ………………………… 15

Findings …………………………………………. 15

Recommendations …………………………… 20

Part Two (Escapes and Accountability) …….. 22

Findings …………………………………………. 22

Recommendations. ………………………… 31

Part Three (Command Climate, Etc…). ……… 34

Findings ……………………………………… … 36

Recommendations …… …………………… 44

Other Findings/Observations ……………………… 49

Conclusion ………………………………………… ………… 50

Annexes …………………………………………†¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦ 51


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4. Geneva Convention Protocol Relative to the Status of Refugees, 1967

5. Geneva Convention Relative to the Status of Refugees, 1951

6. Geneva Convention for the Protection of War Victims, 12 August 1949

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14. AR 190-14, Carrying of Firearms and Use of Force for Law Enforcement and Security Duties, 12 March 1993

15. AR 195-5, Evidence Procedures, 28 August 1992

16. AR 190-11, Physical Security of Arms, Ammunition and Explosives, 12 February 1998

17. AR 190-12, Military Police Working Dogs, 30 September 1993

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28. AR 600-20, Army Command Policy, 13 May 2002

29. AR 623-105, Officer Evaluation Reports, 1 April 1998

30. AR 175-9, Contractors Accompanying the Force, 29 October 1999

FM 3-19.40, Military Police Internment/Resettlement Operations, 1 August 2001FM 3-19.1, Military Police Operations, 22 March 2001FM 3-19.4, Military Police Leaders' Handbook, 4 March 2002 FM 3-05.30, Psychological Operations, 19 June 2000FM 33-1-1, Psychological Operations Techniques and Procedures, 5 May 1994FM 34-52, Intelligence Interrogation, 28 September 1992FM 19-15, Civil Disturbances, 25 November 198538. FM 3-0, Operations, 14 June 2001

39. FM 101-5, Staff Organizations and Functions, 23 May 1984

40. FM 3-19.30, Physical Security, 8 January 2001

41. FM 3-21.5, Drill and Ceremonies, 7 July 2003

42. ARTEP 19-546-30 MTP, Mission Training Plan for Military Police Battalion (IR)

43. ARTEP 19-667-30 MTP, Mission Training Plan for Military Police Guard Company

44. ARTEP 19-647-30 MTP, Mission Training Plan for Military Police Escort Guard Company

45. STP 19-95B1-SM, Soldier’s Manual, MOS 95B, Military Police, Skill Level 1, 6 August 2002

46. STP 19-95C14-SM-TG, Soldier’s Manual and Trainer’s Guide for MOS 95C Internment/Resettlement Specialist, Skill Levels 1/2/3/4, 26 March 1999

47. STP 19-95C1-SM MOS 95C, Corrections Specialist, Skill Level 1, Soldier's Manual, 30 September 2003

48. STP 19-95C24-SM-TG MOS 95C, Corrections Specialist, Skill Levels 2/3/4, Soldier's Manual and Trainer's Guide, 30 September 2003

49. Assessment of DOD Counter-Terrorism Interrogation and Detention Operations in Iraq, (MG Geoffrey D. Miller, Commander JTF-GTMO, Guantanamo Bay, Cuba), 9 September 2003

50. Assessment of Detention and Corrections Operations in Iraq, (MG Donald J. Ryder, Provost Marshal General), 6 November 2003

51. CJTF-7 FRAGO #1108, Subject: includes- para 3.C.8 & 3.C.8.A.1, Assignment of 205 MI BDE CDR Responsibilities for the Baghdad Central Confinement Facility (BCCF), 19 November 2003

52. CJTF-7 FRAGO #749, Subject: Intelligence and Evidence-Led Detention Operations Relating to Detainees, 24 August 2003

53. 800th MP BDE FRAGO # 89, Subject: Rules of Engagement, 26 December 2003

54. CG CJTF-7 Memo: CJTF-7 Interrogation and Counter-Resistance Policy, 12 October 2003

55. CG CJTF-7 Memo: Dignity and Respect While Conducting Operations, 13 December 2003

56. Uniform Code of Military Justice and Manual for Courts Martial, 2002 Edition


ARTICLE 15-6 INVESTIGATION OF THE 800th MILITARY POLICE BRIGADE

BACKGROUND

1. (U) On 19 January 2004, Lieutenant General (LTG) Ricardo S. Sanchez, Commander, Combined Joint Task Force Seven (CJTF-7) requested that the Commander, US Central Command, appoint an Investigating Officer (IO) in the grade of Major General (MG) or above to investigate the conduct of operations within the 800th Military Police (MP) Brigade. LTG Sanchez requested an investigation of detention and internment operations by the Brigade from 1 November 2003 to present. LTG Sanchez cited recent reports of detainee abuse, escapes from confinement facilities, and accountability lapses, which indicated systemic problems within the brigade and suggested a lack of clear standards, proficiency, and leadership. LTG Sanchez requested a comprehensive and all-encompassing inquiry to make findings and recommendations concerning the fitness and performance of the 800th MP Brigade. (ANNEX 2)

2. (U) On 24 January 2003, the Chief of Staff of US Central Command (CENTCOM), MG R. Steven Whitcomb, on behalf of the CENTCOM Commander, directed that the Commander, Coalition Forces Land Component Command (CFLCC), LTG David D. McKiernan, conduct an investigation into the 800th MP Brigade’s detention and internment operations from 1 November 2003 to present. CENTCOM directed that the investigation should inquire into all facts and circumstances surrounding recent reports of suspected detainee abuse in Iraq. It also directed that the investigation inquire into detainee escapes and accountability lapses as reported by CJTF-7, and to gain a more comprehensive and all-encompassing inquiry into the fitness and performance of the 800th MP Brigade. (ANNEX 3)

3. (U) On 31 January 2004, the Commander, CFLCC, appointed MG Antonio M. Taguba, Deputy Commanding General Support, CFLCC, to conduct this investigation. MG Taguba was directed to conduct an informal investigation under AR 15-6 into the 800th MP Brigade’s detention and internment operations. Specifically, MG Taguba was tasked to:

a. (U) Inquire into all the facts and circumstances surrounding recent allegations of detainee abuse, specifically allegations of maltreatment at the Abu Ghraib Prison (Baghdad Central Confinement Facility (BCCF));

b. (U) Inquire into detainee escapes and accountability lapses as reported by CJTF-7, specifically allegations concerning these events at the Abu Ghraib Prison;

c. (U) Investigate the training, standards, employment, command policies, internal procedures, and command climate in the 800th MP Brigade, as appropriate;

d. (U) Make specific findings of fact concerning all aspects of the investigation, and make any recommendations for corrective action, as appropriate. (ANNEX 4)

4. (U) LTG Sanchez’s request to investigate the 800th MP Brigade followed the initiation of a criminal investigation by the US Army Criminal Investigation Command (USACIDC) into specific allegations of detainee abuse committed by members of the 372nd MP Company, 320th MP Battalion in Iraq. These units are part of the 800th MP Brigade. The Brigade is an Iraq Theater asset, TACON to CJTF-7, but OPCON to CFLCC at the time this investigation was initiated. In addition, CJTF-7 had several reports of detainee escapes from US/Coalition Confinement Facilities in Iraq over the past several months. These include Camp Bucca, Camp Ashraf, Abu Ghraib, and the High Value Detainee (HVD) Complex/Camp Cropper. The 800th MP Brigade operated these facilities. In addition, four Soldiers from the 320th MP Battalion had been formally charged under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) with detainee abuse in May 2003 at the Theater Internment Facility (TIF) at Camp Bucca, Iraq. (ANNEXES 5-18, 34 and 35)

5. (U) I began assembling my investigation team prior to the actual appointment by the CFLCC Commander. I assembled subject matter experts from the CFLCC Provost Marshal (PM) and the CFLCC Staff Judge Advocate (SJA). I selected COL Kinard J. La Fate, CFLCC Provost Marshal to be my Deputy for this investigation. I also contacted the Provost Marshal General of the Army, MG Donald J. Ryder, to enlist the support of MP subject matter experts in the areas of detention and internment operations. (ANNEXES 4 and 19)

6. (U) The Investigating Team also reviewed the Assessment of DoD Counter-Terrorism Interrogation and Detention Operations in Iraq conducted by MG Geoffrey D. Miller, Commander, Joint Task Force Guantanamo (JTF-GTMO). From 31 August to 9 September 2003, MG Miller led a team of personnel experienced in strategic interrogation to HQ, CJTF-7 and the Iraqi Survey Group (ISG) to review current Iraqi Theater ability to rapidly exploit internees for actionable intelligence. MG Miller’s team focused on three areas: intelligence integration, synchronization, and fusion; interrogation operations; and detention operations. MG Miller’s team used JTF-GTMO procedures and interrogation authorities as baselines. (ANNEX 20)

7. (U) The Investigating Team began its inquiry with an in-depth analysis of the Report on Detention and Corrections in Iraq, dated 5 November 2003, conducted by MG Ryder and a team of military police, legal, medical, and automation experts. The CJTF-7 Commander, LTG Sanchez, had previously requested a team of subject matter experts to assess, and make specific recommendations concerning detention and corrections operations. From 13 October to 6 November 2003, MG Ryder personally led this assessment/assistance team in Iraq. (ANNEX 19)


ASSESSMENT OF DoD COUNTER-TERRORISM INTERROGATION AND DETENTION OPERATIONS IN IRAQ (MG MILLER’S ASSESSMENT)

1. (S/NF) The principal focus of MG Miller’s team was on the strategic interrogation of detainees/internees in Iraq. Among its conclusions in its Executive Summary were that CJTF-7 did not have authorities and procedures in place to affect a unified strategy to detain, interrogate, and report information from detainees/internees in Iraq. The Executive Summary also stated that detention operations must act as an enabler for interrogation. (ANNEX 20)

2. (S/NF) With respect to interrogation, MG Miller’s Team recommended that CJTF-7 dedicate and train a detention guard force subordinate to the Joint Interrogation Debriefing Center (JIDC) Commander that “sets the conditions for the successful interrogation and exploitation of internees/detainees.� Regarding Detention Operations, MG Miller’s team stated that the function of Detention Operations is to provide a safe, secure, and humane environment that supports the expeditious collection of intelligence. However, it also stated “it is essential that the guard force be actively engaged in setting the conditions for successful exploitation of the internees.� (ANNEX 20)

3. (S/NF) MG Miller’s team also concluded that Joint Strategic Interrogation Operations (within CJTF-7) are hampered by lack of active control of the internees within the detention environment. The Miller Team also stated that establishment of the Theater Joint Interrogation and Detention Center (JIDC) at Abu Ghraib (BCCF) will consolidate both detention and strategic interrogation operations and result in synergy between MP and MI resources and an integrated, synchronized, and focused strategic interrogation effort. (ANNEX 20)

4. (S/NF) MG Miller’s team also observed that the application of emerging strategic interrogation strategies and techniques contain new approaches and operational art. The Miller Team also concluded that a legal review and recommendations on internee interrogation operations by a dedicated Command Judge Advocate is required to maximize interrogation effectiveness. (ANNEX 20)

IO COMMENTS ON MG MILLER’S ASSESSMENT

1. (S/NF) MG Miller’s team recognized that they were using JTF-GTMO operational procedures and interrogation authorities as baselines for its observations and recommendations. There is a strong argument that the intelligence value of detainees held at JTF-Guantanamo (GTMO) is different than that of the detainees/internees held at Abu Ghraib (BCCF) and other detention facilities in Iraq. Currently, there are a large number of Iraqi criminals held at Abu Ghraib (BCCF). These are not believed to be international terrorists or members of Al Qaida, Anser Al Islam, Taliban, and other international terrorist organizations. (ANNEX 20)

2. (S/NF) The recommendations of MG Miller’s team that the “guard force� be actively engaged in setting the conditions for successful exploitation of the internees would appear to be in conflict with the recommendations of MG Ryder’s Team and AR 190-8 that military police “do not participate in military intelligence supervised interrogation sessions.� The Ryder Report concluded that the OEF template whereby military police actively set the favorable conditions for subsequent interviews runs counter to the smooth operation of a detention facility. (ANNEX 20)



REPORT ON DETENTION AND CORRECTIONS

IN IRAQ (MG RYDER’S REPORT)

1. (U) MG Ryder and his assessment team conducted a comprehensive review of the entire detainee and corrections system in Iraq and provided recommendations addressing each of the following areas as requested by the Commander CJTF-7:

a. (U) Detainee and corrections system management

b. (U) Detainee management, including detainee movement, segregation, and accountability

c. (U) Means of command and control of the detention and corrections system

d. (U) Integration of military detention and corrections with the Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA) and adequacy of plans for transition to an Iraqi-run corrections system

e. (U) Detainee medical care and health management

f. (U) Detention facilities that meet required health, hygiene, and sanitation standards

g. (U) Court integration and docket management for criminal detainees

h. (U) Detainee legal processing

i. (U) Detainee databases and records, including integration with law enforcement and court databases (ANNEX 19)

2. (U) Many of the findings and recommendations of MG Ryder’s team are beyond the scope of this investigation. However, several important findings are clearly relevant to this inquiry and are summarized below (emphasis is added in certain areas):
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A. (U) Detainee Management (including movement, segregation, and accountability)

1. (U) There is a wide variance in standards and approaches at the various detention facilities. Several Division/Brigade collection points and US monitored Iraqi prisons had flawed or insufficiently detailed use of force and other standing operating procedures or policies (e.g. weapons in the facility, improper restraint techniques, detainee management, etc.) Though, there were no military police units purposely applying inappropriate confinement practices. (ANNEX 19)

2. (U) Currently, due to lack of adequate Iraqi facilities, Iraqi criminals (generally Iraqi-on-Iraqi crimes) are detained with security internees (generally Iraqi-on-Coalition offenses) and EPWs in the same facilities, though segregated in different cells/compounds. (ANNEX 19)

3. (U) The management of multiple disparate groups of detained people in a single location by members of the same unit invites confusion about handling, processing, and treatment, and typically facilitates the transfer of information between different categories of detainees. (ANNEX 19)

4. (U) The 800th MP (I/R) units did not receive Internment/Resettlement (I/R) and corrections specific training during their mobilization period. Corrections training is only on the METL of two MP (I/R) Confinement Battalions throughout the Army, one currently serving in Afghanistan, and elements of the other are at Camp Arifjan, Kuwait. MP units supporting JTF-GTMO received ten days of training in detention facility operations, to include two days of unarmed self-defense, training in interpersonal communication skills, forced cell moves, and correctional officer safety. (ANNEX 19)

B. (U) Means of Command and Control of the Detention and Corrections System

1. (U) The 800th MP Brigade was originally task organized with eight MP(I/R) Battalions consisting of both MP Guard and Combat Support companies. Due to force rotation plans, the 800th redeployed two Battalion HHCs in December 2003, the 115th MP Battalion and the 324th MP Battalion. In December 2003, the 400th MP Battalion was relieved of its mission and redeployed in January 2004. The 724th MP Battalion redeployed on 11 February 2004 and the remainder is scheduled to redeploy in March and April 2004. They are the 310th MP Battalion, 320th MP Battalion, 530th MP Battalion, and 744th MP Battalion. The units that remain are generally understrength, as Reserve Component units do not have an individual personnel replacement system to mitigate medical losses or the departure of individual Soldiers that have reached 24 months of Federal active duty in a five-year period. (ANNEX 19)

2. (U) The 800th MP Brigade (I/R) is currently a CFLCC asset, TACON to CJTF-7 to conduct Internment/Resettlement (I/R) operations in Iraq. All detention operations are conducted in the CJTF-7 AO; Camps Ganci, Vigilant, Bucca, TSP Whitford, and a separate High Value Detention (HVD) site. (ANNEX 19)

3. (U) The 800th MP Brigade has experienced challenges adapting its task organizational structure, training, and equipment resources from a unit designed to conduct standard EPW operations in the COMMZ (Kuwait). Further, the doctrinally trained MP Soldier-to-detainee population ratio and facility layout templates are predicated on a compliant, self-disciplining EPW population, and not criminals or high-risk security internees. (ANNEX 19)

4. (U) EPWs and Civilian Internees should receive the full protections of the Geneva Conventions, unless the denial of these protections is due to specifically articulated military necessity (e.g., no visitation to preclude the direction of insurgency operations). (ANNEXES 19 and 24)

5. (U) AR 190-8, Enemy Prisoners of War, Retained Personnel, Civilian Internees, and other Detainees, FM 3-19.40, Military Police Internment and Resettlement Operations, and FM 34-52, Intelligence Interrogations, require military police to provide an area for intelligence collection efforts within EPW facilities. Military Police, though adept at passive collection of intelligence within a facility, do not participate in Military Intelligence supervised interrogation sessions. Recent intelligence collection in support of Operation Enduring Freedom posited a template whereby military police actively set favorable conditions for subsequent interviews. Such actions generally run counter to the smooth operation of a detention facility, attempting to maintain its population in a compliant and docile state. The 800th MP Brigade has not been directed to change its facility procedures to set the conditions for MI interrogations, nor participate in those interrogations. (ANNEXES 19 and 21-23)

6. MG Ryder’s Report also made the following, inter alia, near-term and mid-term recommendations regarding the command and control of detainees:

a. (U) Align the release process for security internees with DoD Policy. The process of screening security internees should include intelligence findings, interrogation results, and current threat assessment.

b. (U) Determine the scope of intelligence collection that will occur at Camp Vigilant. Refurbish the Northeast Compound to separate the screening operation from the Iraqi run Baghdad Central Correctional Facility. Establish procedures that define the role of military police Soldiers securing the compound, clearly separating the actions of the guards from those of the military intelligence personnel.

c. (U) Consolidate all Security Internee Operations, except the MEK security mission, under a single Military Police Brigade Headquarters for OIF 2.

d. (U) Insist that all units identified to rotate into the Iraqi Theater of Operations (ITO) to conduct internment and confinement operations in support of OIF 2 be organic to CJTF-7. (ANNEX 19)

IO COMMENTS REGARDING MG RYDER’S REPORT

1. (U) The objective of MG Ryder’s Team was to observe detention and prison operations, identify potential systemic and human rights issues, and provide near-term, mid-term, and long-term recommendations to improve CJTF-7 operations and transition of the Iraqi prison system from US military control/oversight to the Coalition Provisional Authority and eventually to the Iraqi Government. The Findings and Recommendations of MG Ryder’s Team are thorough and precise and should be implemented immediately. (ANNEX 19)

2. (U) Unfortunately, many of the systemic problems that surfaced during MG Ryder’s Team’s assessment are the very same issues that are the subject of this investigation. In fact, many of the abuses suffered by detainees occurred during, or near to, the time of that assessment. As will be pointed out in detail in subsequent portions of this report, I disagree with the conclusion of MG Ryder’s Team in one critical aspect, that being its conclusion that the 800th MP Brigade had not been asked to change its facility procedures to set the conditions for MI interviews. While clearly the 800th MP Brigade and its commanders were not tasked to set conditions for detainees for subsequent MI interrogations, it is obvious from a review of comprehensive CID interviews of suspects and witnesses that this was done at lower levels. (ANNEX 19)

3. (U) I concur fully with MG Ryder’s conclusion regarding the effect of AR 190-8. Military Police, though adept at passive collection of intelligence within a facility, should not participate in Military Intelligence supervised interrogation sessions. Moreover, Military Police should not be involved with setting “favorable conditions� for subsequent interviews. These actions, as will be outlined in this investigation, clearly run counter to the smooth operation of a detention facility. (ANNEX 19)



PRELIMINARY INVESTIGATIVE ACTIONS

1. (U) Following our review of MG Ryder’s Report and MG Miller’s Report, my investigation team immediately began an in-depth review of all available documents regarding the 800th MP Brigade. We reviewed in detail the voluminous CID investigation regarding alleged detainee abuses at detention facilities in Iraq, particularly the Abu Ghraib (BCCF) Detention Facility. We analyzed approximately fifty witness statements from military police and military intelligence personnel, potential suspects, and detainees. We reviewed numerous photos and videos of actual detainee abuse taken by detention facility personnel, which are now in the custody and control of the US Army Criminal Investigation Command and the CJTF-7 prosecution team. The photos and videos are not contained in this investigation. We obtained copies of the 800th MP Brigade roster, rating chain, and assorted internal investigations and disciplinary actions involving that command for the past several months. (All ANNEXES Reviewed by Investigation Team)

2. (U) In addition to military police and legal officers from the CFLCC PMO and SJA Offices we also obtained the services of two individuals who are experts in military police detention practices and training. These were LTC Timothy Weathersbee, Commander, 705th MP Battalion, United States Disciplinary Barracks, Fort Leavenworth, and SFC Edward Baldwin, Senior Corrections Advisor, US Army Military Police School, Fort Leonard Wood. I also requested and received the services of Col (Dr) Henry Nelson, a trained US Air Force psychiatrist assigned to assist my investigation team. (ANNEX 4)

3. (U) In addition to MG Ryder’s and MG Miller’s Reports, the team reviewed numerous reference materials including the 12 October 2003 CJTF-7 Interrogation and Counter-Resistance Policy, the AR 15-6 Investigation on Riot and Shootings at Abu Ghraib on 24 November 2003, the 205th MI Brigade’s Interrogation Rules of Engagement (IROE), facility staff logs/journals and numerous records of AR 15-6 investigations and Serious Incident Reports (SIRs) on detainee escapes/shootings and disciplinary matters from the 800th MP Brigade. (ANNEXES 5-20, 37, 93, and 94)

4. (U) On 2 February 2004, I took my team to Baghdad for a one-day inspection of the Abu Ghraib Prison (BCCF) and the High Value Detainee (HVD) Complex in order to become familiar with those facilities. We also met with COL Jerry Mocello, Commander, 3rd MP Criminal Investigation Group (CID), COL Dave Quantock, Commander, 16th MP Brigade, COL Dave Phillips, Commander, 89th MP Brigade, and COL Ed Sannwaldt, CJTF-7 Provost Marshal. On 7 February 2004, the team visited the Camp Bucca Detention Facility to familiarize itself with the facility and operating structure. In addition, on 6 and 7 February 2004, at Camp Doha, Kuwait, we conducted extensive training sessions on approved detention practices. We continued our preparation by reviewing the ongoing CID investigation and were briefed by the Special Agent in Charge, CW2 Paul Arthur. We refreshed ourselves on the applicable reference materials within each team member’s area of expertise, and practiced investigative techniques. I met with the team on numerous occasions to finalize appropriate witness lists, review existing witness statements, arrange logistics, and collect potential evidence. We also coordinated with CJTF-7 to arrange witness attendance, force protection measures, and general logistics for the team’s move to Baghdad on 8 February 2004. (ANNEXES 4 and 25)

5. (U) At the same time, due to the Transfer of Authority on 1 February 2004 between III Corps and V Corps, and the upcoming demobilization of the 800th MP Brigade Command, I directed that several critical witnesses who were preparing to leave the theater remain at Camp Arifjan, Kuwait until they could be interviewed (ANNEX 29). My team deployed to Baghdad on 8 February 2004 and conducted a series of interviews with a variety of witnesses (ANNEX 30). We returned to Camp Doha, Kuwait on 13 February 2004. On 14 and 15 February we interviewed a number of witnesses from the 800th MP Brigade. On 17 February we returned to Camp Bucca, Iraq to complete interviews of witnesses at that location. From 18 February thru 28 February we collected documents, compiled references, did follow-up interviews, and completed a detailed analysis of the volumes of materials accumulated throughout our investigation. On 29 February we finalized our executive summary and out-briefing slides. On 9 March we submitted the AR 15-6 written report with findings and recommendations to the CFLCC Deputy SJA, LTC Mark Johnson, for a legal sufficiency review. The out-brief to the appointing authority, LTG McKiernan, took place on 3 March 2004. (ANNEXES 26 and 45-91)


FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS

(PART ONE)

(U) The investigation should inquire into all of the facts and circumstances surrounding recent allegations of detainee abuse, specifically, allegations of maltreatment at the Abu Ghraib Prison (Baghdad Central Confinement Facility).

1. (U) The US Army Criminal Investigation Command (CID), led by COL Jerry Mocello, and a team of highly trained professional agents have done a superb job of investigating several complex and extremely disturbing incidents of detainee abuse at the Abu Ghraib Prison. They conducted over 50 interviews of witnesses, potential criminal suspects, and detainees. They also uncovered numerous photos and videos portraying in graphic detail detainee abuse by Military Police personnel on numerous occasions from October to December 2003. Several potential suspects rendered full and complete confessions regarding their personal involvement and the involvement of fellow Soldiers in this abuse. Several potential suspects invoked their rights under Article 31 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) and the 5th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. (ANNEX 25)

2. (U) In addition to a comprehensive and exhaustive review of all of these statements and documentary evidence, we also interviewed numerous officers, NCOs, and junior enlisted Soldiers in the 800th MP Brigade, as well as members of the 205th Military Intelligence Brigade working at the prison. We did not believe it was necessary to re-interview all the numerous witnesses who had previously provided comprehensive statements to CID, and I have adopted those statements for the purposes of this investigation. (ANNEXES 26, 34, 35, and 45-91)



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REGARDING PART ONE OF THE INVESTIGATION, I MAKE THE FOLLOWING SPECIFIC FINDINGS OF FACT:

1. (U) That Forward Operating Base (FOB) Abu Ghraib (BCCF) provides security of both criminal and security detainees at the Baghdad Central Correctional Facility, facilitates the conducting of interrogations for CJTF-7, supports other CPA operations at the prison, and enhances the force protection/quality of life of Soldiers assigned in order to ensure the success of ongoing operations to secure a free Iraq. (ANNEX 31)

2. (U) That the Commander, 205th Military Intelligence Brigade, was designated by CJTF-7 as the Commander of FOB Abu Ghraib (BCCF) effective 19 November 2003. That the 205th MI Brigade conducts operational and strategic interrogations for CJTF-7. That from 19 November 2003 until Transfer of Authority (TOA) on 6 February 2004, COL Thomas M. Pappas was the Commander of the 205th MI Brigade and the Commander of FOB Abu Ghraib (BCCF). (ANNEX 31)

3. (U) That the 320th Military Police Battalion of the 800th MP Brigade is responsible for the Guard Force at Camp Ganci, Camp Vigilant, & Cellblock 1 of FOB Abu Ghraib (BCCF). That from February 2003 to until he was suspended from his duties on 17 January 2004, LTC Jerry Phillabaum served as the Battalion Commander of the 320th MP Battalion. That from December 2002 until he was suspended from his duties, on 17 January 2004, CPT Donald Reese served as the Company Commander of the 372nd MP Company, which was in charge of guarding detainees at FOB Abu Ghraib. I further find that both the 320th MP Battalion and the 372nd MP Company were located within the confines of FOB Abu Ghraib. (ANNEXES 32 and 45)

4. (U) That from July of 2003 to the present, BG Janis L. Karpinski was the Commander of the 800th MP Brigade. (ANNEX 45)

5. (S) That between October and December 2003, at the Abu Ghraib Confinement Facility (BCCF), numerous incidents of sadistic, blatant, and wanton criminal abuses were inflicted on several detainees. This systemic and illegal abuse of detainees was intentionally perpetrated by several members of the military police guard force (372nd Military Police Company, 320th Military Police Battalion, 800th MP Brigade), in Tier (section) 1-A of the Abu Ghraib Prison (BCCF). The allegations of abuse were substantiated by detailed witness statements (ANNEX 26) and the discovery of extremely graphic photographic evidence. Due to the extremely sensitive nature of these photographs and videos, the ongoing CID investigation, and the potential for the criminal prosecution of several suspects, the photographic evidence is not included in the body of my investigation. The pictures and videos are available from the Criminal Investigative Command and the CTJF-7 prosecution team. In addition to the aforementioned crimes, there were also abuses committed by members of the 325th MI Battalion, 205th MI Brigade, and Joint Interrogation and Debriefing Center (JIDC). Specifically, on 24 November 2003, SPC Luciana Spencer, 205th MI Brigade, sought to degrade a detainee by having him strip and returned to cell naked. (ANNEXES 26 and 53)

6. (S) I find that the intentional abuse of detainees by military police personnel included the following acts:

a. (S) Punching, slapping, and kicking detainees; jumping on their naked feet;

b. (S) Videotaping and photographing naked male and female detainees;

c. (S) Forcibly arranging detainees in various sexually explicit positions for photographing;

d. (S) Forcing detainees to remove their clothing and keeping them naked for several days at a time;

e. (S) Forcing naked male detainees to wear women’s underwear;

f. (S) Forcing groups of male detainees to masturbate themselves while being photographed and videotaped;

g. (S) Arranging naked male detainees in a pile and then jumping on them;

h. (S) Positioning a naked detainee on a MRE Box, with a sandbag on his head, and attaching wires to his fingers, toes, and penis to simulate electric torture;

i. (S) Writing “I am a Rapest� (sic) on the leg of a detainee alleged to have forcibly raped a 15-year old fellow detainee, and then photographing him naked;

j. (S) Placing a dog chain or strap around a naked detainee’s neck and having a female Soldier pose for a picture;

k. (S) A male MP guard having sex with a female detainee;

l. (S) Using military working dogs (without muzzles) to intimidate and frighten detainees, and in at least one case biting and severely injuring a detainee;

m. (S) Taking photographs of dead Iraqi detainees.

(ANNEXES 25 and 26)

7. (U) These findings are amply supported by written confessions provided by several of the suspects, written statements provided by detainees, and witness statements. In reaching my findings, I have carefully considered the pre-existing statements of the following witnesses and suspects (ANNEX 26):

a. (U) SPC Jeremy Sivits, 372nd MP Company - Suspect

b. (U) SPC Sabrina Harman, 372nd MP Company – Suspect

c. (U) SGT Javal S. Davis, 372nd MP Company - Suspect

c. (U) PFC Lynndie R. England, 372nd MP Company - Suspect

d. (U) Adel Nakhla, Civilian Translator, Titan Corp., Assigned to the 205th MI Brigade- Suspect

(Names deleted)

8. (U) In addition, several detainees also described the following acts of abuse, which under the circumstances, I find credible based on the clarity of their statements and supporting evidence provided by other witnesses (ANNEX 26):

a. (U) Breaking chemical lights and pouring the phosphoric liquid on detainees;

b. (U) Threatening detainees with a charged 9mm pistol;

c. (U) Pouring cold water on naked detainees;

d. (U) Beating detainees with a broom handle and a chair;

e. (U) Threatening male detainees with rape;

f. (U) Allowing a military police guard to stitch the wound of a detainee who was injured after being slammed against the wall in his cell;

g. (U) Sodomizing a detainee with a chemical light and perhaps a broom stick.

h. (U) Using military working dogs to frighten and intimidate detainees with threats of attack, and in one instance actually biting a detainee.

9. (U) I have carefully considered the statements provided by the following detainees, which under the circumstances I find credible based on the clarity of their statements and supporting evidence provided by other witnesses:

a. (U) Amjed Isail Waleed, Detainee # 151365

b. (U) Hiadar Saber Abed Miktub-Aboodi, Detainee # 13077

c. (U) Huessin Mohssein Al-Zayiadi, Detainee # 19446

d. (U) Kasim Mehaddi Hilas, Detainee # 151108

e. (U) Mohanded Juma Juma (sic), Detainee # 152307

f. (U) Mustafa Jassim Mustafa, Detainee # 150542

g. (U) Shalan Said Alsharoni, Detainee, # 150422

h. (U) Abd Alwhab Youss, Detainee # 150425

i. (U) Asad Hamza Hanfosh, Detainee # 152529

j. (U) Nori Samir Gunbar Al-Yasseri, Detainee # 7787

k. (U) Thaar Salman Dawod, Detainee # 150427

l. (U) Ameen Sa’eed Al-Sheikh, Detainee # 151362

m. (U) Abdou Hussain Saad Faleh, Detainee # 18470 (ANNEX 26)

10. (U) I find that contrary to the provision of AR 190-8, and the findings found in MG Ryder’s Report, Military Intelligence (MI) interrogators and Other US Government Agency’s (OGA) interrogators actively requested that MP guards set physical and mental conditions for favorable interrogation of witnesses. Contrary to the findings of MG Ryder’s Report, I find that personnel assigned to the 372nd MP Company, 800th MP Brigade were directed to change facility procedures to “set the conditions� for MI interrogations. I find no direct evidence that MP personnel actually participated in those MI interrogations. (ANNEXES 19, 21, 25, and 26).

11. (U) I reach this finding based on the actual proven abuse that I find was inflicted on detainees and by the following witness statements. (ANNEXES 25 and 26):

a. (U) SPC Sabrina Harman, 372nd MP Company, stated in her sworn statement regarding the incident where a detainee was placed on a box with wires attached to his fingers, toes, and penis, “that her job was to keep detainees awake.� She stated that MI was talking to CPL Grainer. She stated: “MI wanted to get them to talk. It is Grainer and Frederick’s job to do things for MI and OGA to get these people to talk.�

b. (U) SGT Javal S. Davis, 372nd MP Company, stated in his sworn statement as follows: “I witnessed prisoners in the MI hold section, wing 1A being made to do various things that I would question morally. In Wing 1A we were told that they had different rules and different SOP for treatment. I never saw a set of rules or SOP for that section just word of mouth. The Soldier in charge of 1A was Corporal Granier. He stated that the Agents and MI Soldiers would ask him to do things, but nothing was ever in writing he would complain (sic).� When asked why the rules in 1A/1B were different than the rest of the wings, SGT Davis stated: “The rest of the wings are regular prisoners and 1A/B are Military Intelligence (MI) holds.� When asked why he did not inform his chain of command about this abuse, SGT Davis stated: “ Because I assumed that if they were doing things out of the ordinary or outside the guidelines, someone would have said something. Also the wing belongs to MI and it appeared MI personnel approved of the abuse.� SGT Davis also stated that he had heard MI insinuate to the guards to abuse the inmates. When asked what MI said he stated: “Loosen this guy up for us.� Make sure he has a bad night.� “Make sure he gets the treatment.� He claimed these comments were made to CPL Granier and SSG Frederick. Finally, SGT Davis stated that (sic): “the MI staffs to my understanding have been giving Granier compliments on the way he has been handling the MI holds. Example being statements like, “Good job, they’re breaking down real fast. They answer every question. They’re giving out good information, Finally, and Keep up the good work . Stuff like that.�

c. (U) SPC Jason Kennel, 372nd MP Company, was asked if he were present when any detainees were abused. He stated: “I saw them nude, but MI would tell us to take away their mattresses, sheets, and clothes.� He could not recall who in MI had instructed him to do this, but commented that, “if they wanted me to do that they needed to give me paperwork.� He was later informed that “we could not do anything to embarrass the prisoners.�

d. (U) Mr. Adel L. Nakhla, a US civilian contract translator was questioned about several detainees accused of rape. He observed (sic): “They (detainees) were all naked, a bunch of people from MI, the MP were there that night and the inmates were ordered by SGT Granier and SGT Frederick ordered the guys while questioning them to admit what they did. They made them do strange exercises by sliding on their stomach, jump up and down, throw water on them and made them some wet, called them all kinds of names such as “gays� do they like to make love to guys, then they handcuffed their hands together and their legs with shackles and started to stack them on top of each other by insuring that the bottom guys penis will touch the guy on tops butt.�

e. (U) SPC Neil A Wallin, 109th Area Support Medical Battalion, a medic testified that: “Cell 1A was used to house high priority detainees and cell 1B was used to house the high risk or trouble making detainees. During my tour at the prison I observed that when the male detainees were first brought to the facility, some of them were made to wear female underwear, which I think was to somehow break them down.�

12. (U) I find that prior to its deployment to Iraq for Operation Iraqi Freedom, the 320th MP Battalion and the 372nd MP Company had received no training in detention/internee operations. I also find that very little instruction or training was provided to MP personnel on the applicable rules of the Geneva Convention Relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War, FM 27-10, AR 190-8, or FM 3-19.40. Moreover, I find that few, if any, copies of the Geneva Conventions were ever made available to MP personnel or detainees. (ANNEXES 21-24, 33, and multiple witness statements)

13. (U) Another obvious example of the Brigade Leadership not communicating with its Soldiers or ensuring their tactical proficiency concerns the incident of detainee abuse that occurred at Camp Bucca, Iraq, on May 12, 2003. Soldiers from the 223rd MP Company reported to the 800th MP Brigade Command at Camp Bucca, that four Military Police Soldiers from the 320th MP Battalion had abused a number of detainees during inprocessing at Camp Bucca. An extensive CID investigation determined that four soldiers from the 320th MP Battalion had kicked and beaten these detainees following a transport mission from Talil Air Base. (ANNEXES 34 and 35)

14. (U) Formal charges under the UCMJ were preferred against these Soldiers and an Article-32 Investigation conducted by LTC Gentry. He recommended a general court martial for the four accused, which BG Karpinski supported. Despite this documented abuse, there is no evidence that BG Karpinski ever attempted to remind 800th MP Soldiers of the requirements of the Geneva Conventions regarding detainee treatment or took any steps to ensure that such abuse was not repeated. Nor is there any evidence that LTC(P) Phillabaum, the commander of the Soldiers involved in the Camp Bucca abuse incident, took any initiative to ensure his Soldiers were properly trained regarding detainee treatment. (ANNEXES 35 and 62)
and there is even more
this is just at Abu Grabass .............

[Montaq]

Yes, but could you be more specific? ROFL!

[Spider]

Yes, but could you be more specific? ROFL!
I almost couldnt believe that silly bastard Errand asked that question , then I say to myself , Spider this is errand , you have underestimated his stupidity before ..........

[Spider]

Well as stupid as Errand is , I better add this one also ...http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/12/08/guantanamo.abuse/

[DBruleU]

Well as stupid as Errand is , I better add this one also ...http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/12/08/guantanamo.abuse/

You spend enirely too much energy on this stuff spider. Then again, you do live in Wyoming, so its understandable. ^5

BTW, do you work at all during the week? I'm just curious cause I see you on here non-stop. Don't take it as a cut, I'm just wondering.

[Spider]

You spend enirely too much energy on this stuff spider. Then again, you do live in Wyoming, so its understandable. ^5

BTW, do you work at all during the week? I'm just curious cause I see you on here non-stop. Don't take it as a cut, I'm just wondering.
Why would I take it as a cut ?
I own 13 Rentals ....... Thats a full time Job .......... I worked my ass off to get where I am ..... 17 Years not 1 Vacation , can you say the same ?
I never carried Debt , can you say the same ?
So now I am on easy street .Enjoying life .... Not busting on you just letting you know I chose to take a different route , I didnt want to be Driving a 18 Wheelers when I was 50 , nor do I want to punch a clock ......

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Cheney opens his mouth, and Bush's credibility takes a direct hit from friendly fire

Cheney's remark on the Iraqi insurgency's 'last throes' undercuts a calibrated message.

By Doyle McManus, Los Angeles Times

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-bushiraq26jun26,0,7916490,full.story

WASHINGTON -- For months, President Bush has struggled to maintain public support for the war in Iraq in the face of periodic setbacks on the battlefield. Now he faces a second front in the battle for public opinion: charges that the administration is not telling the truth about how the war is going.

Bush and his aides have delivered a positive, if carefully calibrated, message. The war is not yet won, they acknowledge, but steady progress is being made. "We can expect more tough fighting in the weeks and months ahead," the president said in his weekly radio address Saturday. "Yet I am confident in the outcome."

But last month, Vice President Dick Cheney broke from the administration's "message discipline" and declared that the insurgency was in its "last throes." The White House has been paying a price ever since.

Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-Neb.), who supported the decision to go to war in Iraq, complained that the White House was "completely disconnected from reality." Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. (D-Del.), another supporter of the war, charged that Bush had opened not just a credibility gap, but a "credibility chasm."

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Iraq insurgency in 'last throes,' Cheney says... Is Cheney a Liar?

"Things aren't getting better; they're getting worse. The White House is completely disconnected from reality," Hagel tells U.S. News. "It's like they're just making it up as they go along. The reality is that we're losing in Iraq."

- Senator Chuck Hagel (R) in U.S. News and World Report

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/050627/27bush.htm

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Iraq insurgency in 'last throes,' Cheney says...

Heh heh heh!

Does the right hand know what the left hand is doing? :D

Rumsfeld: Iraq Insurgency Could Last Years (AP)

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[DBruleU]

Why would I take it as a cut ?
I own 13 Rentals ....... Thats a full time Job .......... I worked my ass off to get where I am ..... 17 Years not 1 Vacation , can you say the same ?
I never carried Debt , can you say the same ?
So now I am on easy street .Enjoying life .... Not busting on you just letting you know I chose to take a different route , I didnt want to be Driving a 18 Wheelers when I was 50 , nor do I want to punch a clock ......

I just wanted to make sure you didnt take it as a cut because I didnt intend it that way, so Im glad you didnt. Its a good route to invest. I cant say the same because I havent had as long a life as you. Im in Commercial Real Estate and can see the good you have done. I can say that I can vacation when I want, and as long as I want, and still make the same amount of money even if I was behind my desk.

[Spider]

I just wanted to make sure you didnt take it as a cut because I didnt intend it that way, so Im glad you didnt. Its a good route to invest. I cant say the same because I havent had as long a life as you. Im in Commercial Real Estate and can see the good you have done. I can say that I can vacation when I want, and as long as I want, and still make the same amount of money even if I was behind my desk.
;D Real estate is the way to go . Rentals are a hassle though ....I worked hard , saved my Cash when I could , Didnt drop a grand at disney land or anywhere else , Alot of times I woud sneak my Family with me , and I would do just a drop and hook at the Yard head out again , spending no time at home , it takes its toll, and I wonder if it was worth it even today ......

[Spider]

Ha! , I was the type that would keep a cooler in my Rig , stocked with Lunch meat , mayo , Mustard , Cheese , stuff like that ...... Tight wad I was ;D

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

"Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don't want war: neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."

- Hermann Goering, Hitler's #2 Man

[RaiderH8r]

WTF would a chickenhawk such as yourself know about fighting, anyway?

With all of your tough talk I would think you'd be shagging ass down to your local recruiter's office to enlist and to volunteer for Iraq duty (since you're such a staunch supporter of the war and such a "patriot.")
Oh look, another half assed, misinformed and ill-conceived assertion made by LABF, imagine my surprise. Does the term 4-F mean anything to you? I had my lower leg and foot pulverized in a drill rig accident. I almost had my leg amputated below the knee. I went through 2 years of surgeries and 3 years of rehab to walk on it. On 9-12, 2001 I was in my marine recruitment office signing up. They saw what I had done to my leg and DQ'd me after the physical. I insisted that I be given an opportunity to succeed or fail in training. I spent almost 2 years working to find a way to get on the battlefield and do my part. What have you done? I went to my Congressman and Senator for a waiver, I don't need a leg, put me on the Abrams or a Humvee, my trigger finger still works. I'm still pissed because I didn't even get the opportunity to fail. So shove your righteous indignation up your a$$ you incompetant boob. I shagged my ass down to my recruiters office. Move out of your mom's basement and then tell me about the intricacies of life. But WTF do you know about anything? Why am I even surprised at your antics anymore? Your positions are ill informed and laughable. Your moral indignation is amusing.

[Crushaholic]

Why would I take it as a cut ?
I own 13 Rentals ....... Thats a full time Job .......... I worked my ass off to get where I am ..... 17 Years not 1 Vacation , can you say the same ?
I never carried Debt , can you say the same ?
So now I am on easy street .Enjoying life .... Not busting on you just letting you know I chose to take a different route , I didnt want to be Driving a 18 Wheelers when I was 50 , nor do I want to punch a clock ......

I'm jealous... ~Popps~ :thumbsup:

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Your positions are ill informed and laughable.

Whatever gets you through the night, Kool-Aid Boy.

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[RaiderH8r]

Whatever gets you through the night, Kool-Aid Boy.

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Another witty retort to add to the list of classics. Way to go :thumbsup: Kool Aid Boy...that's funny. Especially coming from you. Irony is good, I like irony.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Kool Aid Boy...that's funny. Especially coming from you. Irony is good, I like irony.

Um, no, Bubba - it would only be ironic if I was the one still supporting the Smirk & Sneer junta.

:D

[RaiderH8r]

Um, no, Bubba - it would only be ironic if I was the one still supporting the Smirk & Sneer junta.

:D
It's ironic that you, of all people, would toss around Kool Aid drinker jokes. That's amusing... :giggle:

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

It's ironic that you, of all people, would toss around Kool Aid drinker jokes. That's amusing... :giggle:

Trying to use another new vocabulary word in a sentence, eh?

Hint:

The Kool-Aid reference would only be "ironic" if I - and not you - were among that loony, fringe minority who still believe the Smirk & Sneer misadministration is leading America in the right direction.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

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[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Yes, but could you be more specific? ROFL!

rofl

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[RaiderH8r]

Trying to use another new vocabulary word in a sentence, eh?

Hint:

The Kool-Aid reference would only be "ironic" if I - and not you - were among that loony, fringe minority who still believe the Smirk & Sneer misadministration is leading America in the right direction.
It is ironic since you are, without a doubt, so far out there as to give the word "fringe" a bad name.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

It is ironic since you are, without a doubt, so far out there as to give the word "fringe" a bad name.

This from a member of that ever-shrinking, extreme right-wing fringe who still approve of the Toxic Texan and who still believe the frat boy is leading America in the right direction?

:giggle:

Now that's a knee-slapper.

:laugh:

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

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[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

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