The Atlas, Spider, Beerslug thread

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[Atlas]

Thanks, Atlas, for providing lots of information that is irrelevant to the question I had, which was "Would you want to live in a country under Saddam's rule?", not "Do you support the US occupation".

The Iraqis clearly do not like the occupation or the behavior of the troops. However, not many want a return to dictatorship.

'Nuff said.

Well, you prove my point. Bush did a good job in getting rid of Saddam but he has messed everything....EVERYTHING up since then. He hasn't done anything right since the invasion.

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WOW Great cartoon. I agree completly.

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Well, you prove my point. Bush did a good job in getting rid of Saddam but he has messed everything....EVERYTHING up since then. He hasn't done anything right since the invasion.

Exactly.

The faulty premise behind W*GS' spin is that removing Saddam somehow justifies or mitigates all the horrible things the monkey has done to Iraq.

[gunns]

That sort of question has been addressed to the Iraqi people. You're a big fan of polls; why don't you find one and tell us the results?



Iraq is not (yet) an Islamic theocracy. Don't put your cart before that horse.

And secularism isn't the only way to measure the "worth" of a country's political system.

Once again Bush tries to sell the proposition that he is improving the lives of the Iraqi people by removing Saddam with a brutal and bloody war. It's unfortunate that Bush and his advisers have failed to appreciate the wisdom of other great Americans who have proved their leadership in previous times of crisis.

One of America's greatest visionaries, Martin Luther King Jr., said, “We will never have peace in the world until men everywhere recognize that the ends are never cut from the means, because the means represents the ideal in the making and the end in the process. Ultimately you can't reach good ends through evil means, because the means represents the seed and the ends the tree.”

There is no such thing as a “good” war. Iraq is proving this in spades. Bush says, “Bring them on,” and invites the terrorists to Iraq. Then he tells the American public that it is better to fight the terrorists in the streets of Baghdad than in American cities. This attitude speaks volumes as to the administration's utter disregard for Iraq's people, as Baghdad is now awash with innocent blood.

If this really is a war on terror it needs to be fought in a different way and in a different place. We need to get out of Iraq and bring our troops home.

[W*GS]

The faulty premise behind W*GS' spin is that removing Saddam somehow justifies or mitigates all the horrible things the monkey has done to Iraq.

The question then becomes - is Iraq more horrible now than it was under Saddam? Since the Iraqi people don't want him back, I'd say it's less horrible. Far from perfect, true, but the Iraqi people know better than a bunch of armchair amateur politicos on a Broncos discussion board what they want, and they don't want Saddam and that kind of regime again.

[W*GS]

There is no such thing as a “good” war.

Is war always the worst choice? Can you think of any historical examples?

Then he tells the American public that it is better to fight the terrorists in the streets of Baghdad than in American cities. This attitude speaks volumes as to the administration's utter disregard for Iraq's people, as Baghdad is now awash with innocent blood.

It's the "insurgents" (i.e., fellow Iraqis and Muslims) who are killing most of the innocents. Perhaps if Saddam had been left in power to continue his own predations on the Iraqi people, things would be "better" in Iraq, right?

If this really is a war on terror it needs to be fought in a different way and in a different place. We need to get out of Iraq and bring our troops home.

When? Do we just cut and run and leave the Iraqi people to face their enemies on their own?

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Dear President Bush,

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from you and understand why you would propose and support a constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage. As you said "in the eyes of God marriage is based between a man a woman." I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination... End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God's Laws and how to follow them.

1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanness - Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is, my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2. clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?

6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination?

7. Lev.21:20 states that I may ! not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle- room here?

8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I am confident you can help.

Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

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It's the "insurgents" (i.e., fellow Iraqis and Muslims) who are killing most of the innocents. Perhaps if Saddam had been left in power to continue his own predations on the Iraqi people, things would be "better" in Iraq, right?

Oh, I was unaware that we went into Iraq to save the Iraqi people from the insurgents.......we didn't, they weren't there before we got there. As referred to in the polls and from a co-worker of mine who is Iraqi and spent the last year there translating for us, the Iraqi people are not better off and don't feel they are better off. Of course they are thrilled to have Saddam gone. But there lives are not better, in fact they are significantly worse. There are few jobs and despite what our government is telling us there is few places with running water and electricity STILL. They have people in their country telling them how to run their country with little respect to their religion. They now have to worry about the insurgents that have come to attempt to destroy US and THEM. Thanks to Bush they cannot destroy US (like this was a huge threat before the war), just our troops and THEM. Another prime example of not knowing your enemy before going to war. Another Vietnam, there is no way of "winning" this war.

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Oh, I was unaware that we went into Iraq to save the Iraqi people from the insurgents.......we didn't, they weren't there before we got there. As referred to in the polls and from a co-worker of mine who is Iraqi and spent the last year there translating for us, the Iraqi people are not better off and don't feel they are better off. Of course they are thrilled to have Saddam gone. But there lives are not better, in fact they are significantly worse. There are few jobs and despite what our government is telling us there is few places with running water and electricity STILL. They have people in their country telling them how to run their country with little respect to their religion. They now have to worry about the insurgents that have come to attempt to destroy US and THEM. Thanks to Bush they cannot destroy US (like this was a huge threat before the war), just our troops and THEM. Another prime example of not knowing your enemy before going to war. Another Vietnam, there is no way of "winning" this war.

There goes gunns confusing another bushbot with facts again. :D

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It's the "insurgents" (i.e., fellow Iraqis and Muslims) who are killing most of the innocents.

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You're just like Rush Limbaugh - always making claims that are unsupported by fact.

Even if you were correct, there was no "insurgency" before Little Caligula invaded.

Perhaps if Saddam had been left in power to continue his own predations on the Iraqi people, things would be "better" in Iraq, right?

Better for whom?

Gunns already addressed the Iraqis' situation.

Now, maybe you can explain to us how spending half a trillion dollars (of your kids' and your grandkids' money) to replace the only secular regime in the region (a regime with zero tolerance for the likes of Bin Laden or al Qaeda) with an Islamic theocracy allied with Iran is "better" for America?

[W*GS]

Even if you were correct, there was no "insurgency" before Little Caligula invaded.

You'd prefer Saddam in power? How you leftists have forgotten... A few years back it was fashionable to decry the UN sanctions (often mislabelled as "US sanctions") against Saddam's regime as having killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children. The calls for lifting them were getting quite vociferous. Do you think we should have stayed with those policies?

Now, maybe you can explain to us how spending half a trillion dollars (of your kids' and your grandkids' money) to replace the only secular regime in the region

Turkey doesn't count?

(a regime with zero tolerance for the likes of Bin Laden or al Qaeda)

So we should have allied with Saddam to fight OBL and al-Qaeda? Really? Isn't that exactly the moral problem the US is facing in Central Asia - alliances with unsavoury regimes?

with an Islamic theocracy allied with Iran is "better" for America?

That hasn't happened - and it's not clear that it will.

Only those who ideologies are driven by soundbites and simplicity pretend to predict what will happen in Iraq with certainty. You're definitely part of that club, LABF.

[W*GS]

You're just like Rush Limbaugh - always making claims that are unsupported by fact.

The irony is most delicious.

You and Rush are far more similar than different. Indeed, you're the Rush of the Left, on the OM at least. Opinion offered as fact, selective use of facts, personal attacks, the whole litany of disreputable tactics in debating issues.

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To further debunk W*GS' right-wing disinformation:

How bad is it in Iraq? Locals envy conditions of Katrina evacuees. 9/25

http://news.yahoo.com/s/usatoday/20050923/ts_usatoday/iraqiswonderwhatpricetheyllpayinkatrinaswake

[W*GS]

To further debunk W*GS' right-wing disinformation:

How bad is it in Iraq? Locals envy conditions of Katrina evacuees. 9/25

http://news.yahoo.com/s/usatoday/20050923/ts_usatoday/iraqiswonderwhatpricetheyllpayinkatrinaswake

Your bold-faced summary doesn't refer at all to the main point of the article, which was how to pay for Iraqi reconstruction and the costs of the recoveries from Katrina and Rita at the same time. The only thing in the article that meets your summary is a quote from a single Iraqi mother.

Your post is a perfect example of disinformation and spin, LABF - as anyone who reads the link will understand. Not only do you spin the article into something it's not, you insult our intelligence by doing it so poorly.

What was that moderator thread about? Respecting other OM posters? You clearly do not in this case - and it's an endemic problem in almost all your posts. Trust me - most all of us have seen your tactics, and while your bravado may be impressive to some, it's really tiresome to the rest of us.

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The myth of Iraq's foreign fighters

Report by US think tank says only '4 to 10' percent of insurgents are foreigners.

The US and Iraqi governments have vastly overstated the number of foreign fighters in Iraq, and most of them don't come from Saudi Arabia, according to a new report from the Washington-based Center for Strategic International Studies (CSIS). According to a piece in The Guardian, this means the US and Iraq "feed the myth" that foreign fighters are the backbone of the insurgency. While the foreign fighters may stoke the insurgency flames, they make up only about 4 to 10 percent of the estimated 30,000 insurgents.
The CSIS study also disputes media reports that Saudis are the largest group of foreign fighters. CSIS says "Algerians are the largest group (20 percent), followed by Syrians (18 percent), Yemenis (17 percent), Sudanese (15 percent), Egyptians (13 percent), Saudis (12 percent) and those from other states (5 percent)." CSIS gathered the information for its study from intelligence sources in the Gulf region.

The CSIS report says: "The vast majority of Saudi militants who have entered Iraq were not terrorist sympathizers before the war; and were radicalized almost exclusively by the coalition invasion."
The average age of the Saudis was 17-25 and they were generally middle-class with jobs, though they usually had connections with the most prominent conservative tribes. "Most of the Saudi militants were motivated by revulsion at the idea of an Arab land being occupied by a non-Arab country. These feelings are intensified by the images of the occupation they see on television and the Internet ... the catalyst most often cited [in interrogations] is Abu Ghraib, though images from Guantánamo Bay also feed into the pathology."

The report also gives notes that the Saudi government for spending nearly $1.2 billion over the past two years, and deploying 35,000 troops, in an effort to secure its border with Iraq. The major problem remains the border with Syria, which lacks the resources of the Saudis to create a similar barrier on its border.

The Associated Press reports that CSIS believes most of the insurgents are not "Saddam Hussein loyalists" but members of Sunni Arab Iraqi tribes. They do not want to see Mr. Hussein return to power, but they are "wary of a Shiite-led government."

The Los Angeles Times reports that a greater concern is that 'skills' foreign fighters are learning in Iraq are being exported to their home countries. This is a particular concern for Europe, since early this year US intelligence reported that "Abu Musab Zarqawi, whose network is believed to extend far beyond Iraq, had dispatched teams of battle-hardened operatives to European capitals."

Iraq has become a superheated, real-world academy for lessons about weapons, urban combat and terrorist trade craft, said Thomas Sanderson of [CSIS].
Extremists in Iraq are "exposed to international networks from around the world," said Sanderson, who has been briefed by German security agencies. "They are returning with bomb-making skills, perhaps stolen explosives, vastly increased knowledge. If they are succeeding in a hostile environment, avoiding ... US Special Forces, then to go back to Europe, my God, it's kid's play."

Meanwhile, The Boston Globe reports that President Bush, in a speech Thursday that was "clearly designed to dampen the potential impact of the antiwar rally" this weekend in Washington, said his top military commanders in Iraq have told him that they are making progress against the insurgents and "in establishing a politically viable state."
Newly trained Iraqi forces are taking the lead in many security operations, the president said, including a recent offensive in the insurgent stronghold of Tal Afar along the Syrian border – a key transit point for foreign fighters and supplies.
"Iraqi forces are showing the vital difference they can make," Bush said. '"They are now in control of more parts of Iraq than at any time in the past two years. Significant areas of Baghdad and Mosul, once violent and volatile, are now more stable because Iraqi forces are helping to keep the peace."

The president's speech, however, was followed by comments made Thursday by Saudi Arabia's foreign minister. Prince Saud al-Faisal said the US ignored warnings the Saudi government gave it about occupying Iraq. Prince Faisal also said he fears US policies in Iraq will lead to the country breaking up into Kurdish, Sunni, and Shiite parts. He also said that Saudi Arabia is not ready to send an ambassador to Baghdad, because he would become a target for the insurgents. "I doubt he would last a day," Faisal said.
Finally, The Guardian reports that "ambitions for Iraq are being drastically scaled down in private" by British and US officials. The main goal has now become avoiding the image of failure. The paper quotes sources in the British Foreign Office as saying that hopes to turn Iraq into a model of democracy for the Middle East had been put aside. "We will settle for leaving behind an Iraqi democracy that is creaking along," the source said.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0923/dailyUpdate.html

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They forgot Unka Donny...

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[W*GS]

The Democrat's worst enemy:

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Themselves.

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Check out the all new "Dishonest Dubya" action figure. (http://www.southpoledudes.com/dishonestdubya.html)

:D

[Atlas]

Check out the all new "Dishonest Dubya" action figure. (http://www.southpoledudes.com/dishonestdubya.html)

:D

I loved making him choke aon a preztal. That was great.

he is an idiot.

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I loved making him choke aon a preztal. That was great.

he is an idiot.

:laugh:

If you thought that one was good, then check this out:

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[Atlas]

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If you thought that one was good, then check this out:

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Those made me sick.

Use Jesus as your personal weapon...LOL

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[Atlas]

Here is an interesting one
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:laugh: ^5

Rep!

[W*GS]

Here is an interesting one
http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/v/_/bush_mandate.jpg

Another "interesting" graph would be one showing all the previous Presidential elections... I'd like to know in which one the winning candidate got votes greater than half the total population.

This graph is rather stupid and pointless, really.

[Atlas]

Another "interesting" graph would be one showing all the previous Presidential elections... I'd like to know in which one the winning candidate got votes greater than half the total population.

This graph is rather stupid and pointless, really.

yes it is pointless. It's just making a point that Bush is a moron.

[W*GS]

yes it is pointless. It's just making a point that Bush is a moron.

You don't need a lame-o bar chart to do that.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

It's just making a point that Bush is a moron.

That's why W*GS is seeing red.

:laugh:

He hitched his wagon to the Smirk & Sneer train.

Now that train is going over a cliff, and all he can do is point fingers at Democrats.

:D

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Protest sign seen at a recent antiwar demonstration:

"WOULD SOMEONE PLEASE JUST GIVE HIM A BLOW JOB SO WE CAN HAVE HIM IMPEACHED?"

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[Bronco_Beerslug]

Protest sign seen at a recent antiwar demonstration:

"WOULD SOMEONE PLEASE JUST GIVE HIM A BLOW JOB SO WE CAN HAVE HIM IMPEACHED?"

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ROFL! :notworthy

[W*GS]

That's why W*GS is seeing red.

Interestingly, Bush has had more of a "mandate" than Clinton ever did, going by percentage of the popular vote. How does that fit into your calculus?

He hitched his wagon to the Smirk & Sneer train.

How did I manage to do that since I never voted for the guy?

[W*GS]

Feinstein's crib sheet for the Alito nomination:

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[Atlas]

Interestingly, Bush has had more of a "mandate" than Clinton ever did, going by percentage of the popular vote. How does that fit into your calculus?

Well, maybe because there was three people running in the first election. Clinton won comfortably the second time though.

[Atlas]

Feinstein's crib sheet for the Alito nomination:

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That's pretty funny

[Atlas]

Bush's America
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[W*GS]

Well, maybe because there was three people running in the first election. Clinton won comfortably the second time though.

Perot was a candidate in 1996 also, but he got only 8.4% of the vote. As it is, in neither 1992 or 1996 did Clinton win as much of the popular vote as Bush did in 2004, nor did Clinton get a majority of the popular vote in either election:

Clinton 1992: 43.0%
Clinton 1996: 49.2%
Bush 2000: 47.9%
Bush 2004: 50.7%

(Courtesy Wikipedia)

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Interestingly, Bush has had more of a "mandate" than Clinton ever did, going by percentage of the popular vote. How does that fit into your calculus?

:stupid:

If you call seizing power via election fraud and in a judicial coup a "mandate."

You're so far behind the curve it's ridiculous.

The final tallies of the votes showed Gore won Florida under all possible scenarios.

The GAO just validated key findings that the vote was hacked in '04 and that Kerry won Ohio.

You need to detox from the GOP Kool-Aid and enter Republican Rehab a.s.a.p.

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If you call seizing power via election fraud and in a judicial coup a "mandate."

You're so far behind the curve it's ridiculous.

The final tallies of the votes showed Gore won Florida under all possible scenarios.

The GAO just validated key findings that the vote was hacked in '04 and that Kerry won Ohio.

You need to detox from the GOP Kool-Aid and enter Republican Rehab a.s.a.p.

Thanks for responding just as I expected.

Dance, wee LABF, dance.

[Atlas]

Perot was a candidate in 1996 also, but he got only 8.4% of the vote. As it is, in neither 1992 or 1996 did Clinton win as much of the popular vote as Bush did in 2004, nor did Clinton get a majority of the popular vote in either election:

Clinton 1992: 43.0%
Clinton 1996: 49.2%
Bush 2000: 47.9%
Bush 2004: 50.7%

(Courtesy Wikipedia)

That's because there was three people running. His margin of victory was very comforatable. And the elections weren't even that close.

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His margin of victory was very comforatable.

Not to mention fraud-free.

I'm still laughing my ass off at W*GS' hilarious attempt to argue that a con man who seized the presidency in a judicial coup has a "mandate."

ROFL!

[Atlas]

Not to mention fraud-free.

I'm still laughing my ass off at W*GS' hilarious attempt to argue that a con man who seized the presidency in a judicial coup has a "mandate."

ROFL!

LOL

In 2000 Geroge wouldn't have won Florida if it wasn't for his brother.. but that's all water under the bridge. The man is a disaster as a President and he is going to ruin the Republican party for years to come.

[W*GS]

Not to mention fraud-free.

That's wrong - there hasn't been a major election yet that met that standard. At best, you can argue that the cases of fraud in 1992 and 1996 didn't materially change the outcome. It's not clear to me that 2000 and 2004 don't meet that standard as well.

I'm still laughing my ass off

I'm surprised you have any ass left.

at W*GS' hilarious attempt to argue that a con man who seized the presidency in a judicial coup has a "mandate."

I was arguing nothing of the sort - just that Bush won more of the popular vote in 2004 than Clinton did in either 1992 or 1996. Do you have any proof otherwise?

[W*GS]

The man is a disaster as a President and he is going to ruin the Republican party for years to come.

Perhaps. It's a pity that the Democrats are falling under the sway of the Dean/Moore/Soros/Pelosi faction - that doesn't bode well for them either. If, by some amazing circumstance, the Democrats do retake control, it won't be because of anything they've done, it will be because the GOP has messed up so badly. Like I've noted, "I hate Republicans" is not a campaign-winning tactic.

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The man is a disaster as a President and he is going to ruin the Republican party for years to come.

You'd think that by now W*GS would have figured this out and would have found some other conservative idiot to defend. :D

[Atlas]

If, by some amazing circumstance, the Democrats do retake control, it won't be because of anything they've done, it will be because the GOP has messed up so badly. Like I've noted, "I hate Republicans" is not a campaign-winning tactic.

I agree with that. People are going to vote against the republicans because of Bush. It's up to the democrats if they can do anything with it though.

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Like I've noted, "I hate Republicans" is not a campaign-winning tactic.

Good thing for you and your ilk that "I hate gays, liberals, and Muslims" is, huh?

I always chuckle when right-wing shills like you criticize the Democrats for allegedly having "no ideas."

What "ideas" have Bush and the Corrupt Old Party bestowed on America and the rest of the world?

(Note: rampant corruption, criminality, cronyism, ineptitude, anti-intellectualism, anti-scientism, and belligerence don't count as "ideas.")

Answer?

No ideas - just pure politics, greed, and self-interest.

(Which is probably why you identify with this crew so strongly and why you can't resist the compulsion to attack its critcs at every turn.)

[W*GS]

Good thing for you and your ilk that "I hate gays, liberals, and Muslims" is, huh?

I musta hit a soft spot because LABF is all frothed-up and making an ass of himself. Again.

As for homosexuals, you're the one with the homophobia, not me.

I don't particularly hate liberals - it's just that they're sadly misguided. Same goes for conservatives.

On the topic of Muslims, I don't concern myself one way or the other with them - so long as they behave in society, I don't care what they believe. Just as with all religious folk. Now, those like OBL and his followers, I don't believe they represent true Islam, any more than the Spanish Inquisition represented true Christians.

So, you attempted to smear me with three specifics; I just amply demonstrated that indeed, all you made was a cheap smear. Care to retract it? Probably not - that would require a level of maturity and intellectual honesty you do not possess.

I always chuckle when right-wing shills like you criticize the Democrats for allegedly having "no ideas."

So what ideas does your party have? How many were purchased by Soros?

(Which is probably why you identify with this crew so strongly and why you can't resist the compulsion to attack its critcs at every turn.)

I don't attack all "critcs [sic]" - just you when you make baseless smears and slurs against me. For some reason, you identify so strongly with the right-wing and the Bush administration that any of my criticisms or even my takes (when different than yours on a given issue or topic) must mean that I'm a wholehearted dogmatic supporter of the Right generally or the Bush administration specifically. Why do you compulsively persist in making that error, when it's been proven wrong time and again? There are others on the OM who are conservative and who do support Bush - is it because they cower before your personal attacks, slurs, and smears, whereas I don't, that I've "earned" your hatred and you can't help but lie?

What's your real problem with me? It's not that I'm a conservative, because I'm not. Is it because I've pulverized you in every argument we've ever had? Is there something about your self-esteem and self-worth that's so fragile that any perceived reduction in either causes you to lash out in anger, fear, and hatred?

I've met my share of folks like you on the 'Net over the years; you're definitely one of the most pathological.

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Ooooh... I hit a nerve.

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Quotes

"In 1998, 16 major polls asked about impeaching Clinton...Only 36% supported hearings to consider impeachment, and only 26% supported actual impeachment and removal. Even so, the impeachment debate dominated the news for months, and the Republican Congress impeached Clinton despite overwhelming public opposition."

- David Swanson

"By a margin of 53% to 42%, Americans want Congress to impeach Bush if he lied about the war in Iraq, according to a new Zogby poll. 53% agreed with the statement: "If Bush did not tell the truth about going to war with Iraq, Congress should consider holding him accountable through impeachment."

- David Swanson

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"Liberal media" indeed.

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Shallow Throat: 'Ratchet it up, take 'em down'

"The wheels are coming off the bus," a giddy Shallow Throat said. "Now that the Bush Administration is imploding from within, it's time for those of us on the outside to set more political charges.

"So many who have wanted to 'get' these creeps, but who have been silent before, are leaking damaging information about them. The Establishment conservatives -- those who were pushed out of influence and power by the neo-cons who hijacked our party -- are getting their message out daily: It's OK to get rid of these Bush guys because if we don't, they'll take us all down with them -- the party, the economy, the Constitution, the military, the veterans, whatever's left of respect for the U.S. in the world."

I hadn't seen Shallow Throat like this in a long, long time. The high-ranking Bush Administration GOP mole, who previously had revealed so much of the motivations and weaknesses from inside the White House, just let the words come pouring out.



"In short, we're at the shores of Lake Critical Mass, my friend -- but not quite to the Promised Land. Tell your liberal Dem colleagues to ratchet up the pressure and join us traditional conservatives in pushing this crew off the political cliff. If we each work our respective constituencies with intelligence and determination, the long nightmare will soon be over."

"But where to push the hardest?" I asked. "Where are they weakest? We don't want to scatter-shot our energies."

DRY-ROT CAN DO WONDERS

"Their main points of weakness? Try anywhere. Their whole foundation, built on lies and fraud and corruption and in-your-face arrogance and bullying, has rampant dry-rot at the core. Just hit it hard, anywhere, and more structure will fall off, by this time almost on its own."

"Good metaphor," I said, "but give us some specific guidance here. Should we concentrate on the Iraq war? Supreme Court nominees? Corruption? Torture? Where?"

"What I'm saying," Shallow Throat responded, "is that it's Shadow-Cabinet time. The Dems, if they're smart, will organize their forces accordingly. Certain Democrat Senators and Representatives should have specific portfolios of attack. Some, those with special expertise, should concentrate on Iraq. Some on corruption, focusing on DeLay, Frist, Abramoff, Cheney. Some on our electoral system rife with fraud and vote-tabulation manipulations. Some on the Constitution and abuse of police power. Some should be shadowing Rove, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Bush. Some on the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Gonzales torture policies. Some on following out the Scooter Libby and Niger Yellowcake chain. Some on Alito and his way-out-of-the-mainstream ideological jurisprudence and open conflicts of interest. Some on foreign policy, especially how the Bush neocons are anxious to move the U.S. to war with Syria and/or Iran.

"To change metaphors, the Bush Administration is like a Great White Shark beached right now, mostly by its own actions. In such a position, it's extremely vulnerable, but in order to ensure that it doesn't escape at the next HardRight tide, you've got to tie it up tightly. You've got to organize the various teams so that everyone knows how and where to throw the ropes over the carcass, where the nodal points of weakness are.

"If everyone's merely running around shouting and cheering, you'll just get your ropes all tangled up and little will be accomplished, except to make everyone temporarily feel good. We don't want to feel good, we want to get this batch of crooks and liars and power-hungry zealots out of the peoples' White House. Then we can set about the long process of undoing years of Bush&Co. damage, and start the restoration process.

GOP ELITE MAKES ITS MOVE

"That's one reason why I'm suggesting that you make as many alliances as you can, even if some of them are only tangential, with the traditional elements of the GOP, the Establishment conservatives, the moderate rank-and-file, those good reasonable conservatives in the Congress worried about their chances for re-election," said ST. "Use what they're saying about this Bush crew -- Bill Buckley, Larry Wilkerson, Colin Powell, Brent Scowcroft, John Danforth, the leakers in the CIA, those who published the Downing Street Memos, et al. These are not dastardly 'liberals'; these make up the backbone of traditional center-right rule.

"Those speaking out against the Busheviks are taking giant risks right now saying what they're saying, and they need all the support they can get. Yes, of course, they should have revealed all this stuff years ago, but don't waste energy denouncing them for their belated courage, the point is that they're saying it now. Use it."

"But how," I asked, "can we ensure that the Democrats will not falter, that they are willing to take the lead in attacking the Bush Administration consistently and frontally on all these issues?"

"Look, Bernie," said ST, "for years, your progressive friends have been pointing out how spineless the Democrats have been in the face of Karl Rove's mendacious assault on them and the democratic process as a whole. But now, sensing the weaknesses and openings in the crumbling Bush&Co. facade, they're starting to make forays, try out some political jui-jitsu moves, rack up a few victories. In some ways, as unbelievable as it sounds, they are starting to make noises as if they finally understand what the word 'opposition' means. (A few already have taken the necessary giant step: admitting they were wrong in granting Bush authorization to take the country to war in Iraq, because the Administration lied and misled them as they also lied and deceived the public at large.)

"As these Democrat leaders begin to speak out -- especially Harry Reid in the Senate and Nancy Pelosi in the House -- don't bad-mouth them for their earlier timidity; praise them and encourage them for what they're doing now. Keep your eyes on the prize: cleansing the White House of this ruinous, reckless, incompetent crew. You can fight among yourselves later."

"What I don't understand," I asked, "is what do you guys, you traditional Republicans, get out of encouraging us progressive Democrats to lead the fight in toppling the Bushies?"

RE-OPENING THE BIG CENTER

"I thought that would be self-evident," said Shallow Throat, with a you-really-have-to-ask? look thrown my way. "We're frozen out. The Hard Rightists, neo-con crazies and religious zealots have a total lock on power in the Republican Party. The only way we can ever hope for our more realistic and moderate candidates to get back into contention is to impeach or otherwise get rid of this destructive cabal. We'd prefer to do it ourselves but we're too weak right now. This time out, the Dems must take the lead in bringing them down.

"After that, the Big Center is open once again -- you guys in the center-left, we in the center-right. In a fair fight -- which means an honest electoral system, with hand-counted paper ballots by official poll workers -- we think we can whip your butts, but even if your side wins, we still have a good shot the next time. Now do you get it? It's in our self-interest -- which just happens to be what's good for the country as a whole -- to return the federal government to the Big Center by eliminating those who don't give a fig for democratic institutions, except how to manipulate and distort them in the service of a tiny sliver of the American population."

"And you're convinced that the Bushies can be taken now, that they're that weak?" I asked.

"For sure. But with several important caveats. They may be dumb and incompetent, but they're not politically stupid, they're still in power, and they have few moral qualms. They see what you and I see, that they're in free-fall right now, and that they're no longer trusted or seen as occupying the moral/ethical high ground; they realize that unless they take some drastic action to stop that free-fall, they're going down -- with huge anchors tied around their necks: Iraq, Katrina, Libby, jobs, torture, widescale corruption, the conservative Establishment revealing even more of their mendacity and incompetence, etc.

BEWARE THE WALKING WOUNDED

"Which translates into: They will do anything, ANYTHING, to stave off their impending loss of power. If they feel they have to totally shift the focus, to distract the public from the Administration's self-created woes, they will act accordingly; launch an attack on another country; look the other way again as a large-scale terrorist attack (or public health threat) takes place inside the United States; kick their slime-machine into high gear against anyone who criticizes them. In short, don't take your eyes off the Busheviks for a second; they're wounded, cornered animals ready to do anything to strike out and escape the political noose -- and, not incidentally, likely criminal prosecutions down the line."

"But," I asked, "if the situation inside the Administration is so scary for those deemed 'disloyal,' why are you risking your neck to talk to me and get the word out to your ostensible political enemies?"

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend. The enemy for us all right now is the Bush bunker crew holding the reins of federal political power. We work together now to defeat them, we fight it out later in the good, old-fashioned, civil way we've always fought. Let the best ideas win -- not the biggest lies.

"Sure, I'm frightened of what might happen to me if I were caught talking with you. But, as I tried to emphasize in our discussion tonight, the objective conditions are now there for taking down this bumbling, vicious, greedy crew. Even if my own neck is at risk, at least I'll know I'd be helping take them down with me. Not a bad bargain."

And with that, Shallow Throat, wearing a calm, big grin, vanished into the night. I sat there sipping my Negra Modelo, feeling uplifted, warm, hopeful.

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Still dodging my questions regarding your take on your pro-fragging brethren, I see.

Why?

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[...]I sat there sipping my Negra Modelo, feeling uplifted, warm, hopeful.

Wrong ending. More like:

"I woke up from my fantasy, and then realized I'd have to change the sheets."

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W*GS' news source?

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[Atlas]

Wrong ending. More like:

"I woke up from my fantasy, and then realized I'd have to change the sheets."

Wings I respect your opinion but your the one living in a fantasy world... I mean really.. Bush is a complete and total f+ckup. You must see this!! He is absolutly horrible. He is arrogant, stupid and easy influenced by the people around him.

If Hillary and McCain ran against each opthe next year I go McCain but if but I would go ANYONE.......... ANYONE over Bush if he could run again. Hitler was more rational and intelligent than Bush.

There are a lot of things that are burned into my mind and one image I'll never forget is this.

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If there is a hell I'm confident George W. Bush has a room reserved. He lied, he cheated and he killed for an unjust cause. His fate will be worse than any of his victims.

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Wings I respect your opinion but your the one living in a fantasy world... I mean really.. Bush is a complete and total f+ckup. You must see this!! He is absolutly horrible. He is arrogant, stupid and easy influenced by the people around him.

I've felt the same way about most presidents.

If Hillary and McCain ran against each opthe next year I go McCain

Why? He worked very hard to get a law passed that censors political speech.

Hitler was more rational and intelligent than Bush.

Rational? No. Intelligent? Perhaps.

Your comment? Stupid.

If there is a hell I'm confident George W. Bush has a room reserved. He lied, he cheated and he killed for an unjust cause. His fate will be worse than any of his victims.

He'll have lots of company - Clinton, GHWB, Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon, LBJ (especially), JFK (especially), Eisenhower, Truman... At least Bush won't be as bad a shape as I'm quite sure FDR is.

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Wings I respect your opinion but your the one living in a fantasy world... I mean really.. Bush is a complete and total f+ckup. You must see this!! He is absolutly horrible. He is arrogant, stupid and easy influenced by the people around him.

Yep.

The O'W*GS Factor has been feeding at the Scaife/Murdock/Cato/Heritage disinformation/propaganda trough for so long he can no longer tell fact from fantasy.

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W*GS to Der Chimp's rescue!

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Don't need to doctor this pic. The truth speaks volumes

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"Yo quiero your oil."

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W*GS to Der Chimp's rescue!

How does a cartoon showing Bush with his pants on fire "rescue" him?

You've gone off the deep end and become nothing more than a "Whatever W*GS posts, attack him!" 'bot.

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Right on cue - W*GS to President Katrina's rescue.

Dictionary of Republicanisms

Over the past few decades, the radical right has engaged in a well-funded, self-conscious program of Orwellian doublespeak, transforming the American political discourse to suit its ends. Think tanks like the Cato Institute routinely market phrases for their political resonance, like "personal" vs. "private" accounts. Frank Luntz, the Republican pollster, lexicographer and MSNBC pundit who combines Madison Avenue techniques with K Street connections, sends out regular missives informing Republican operatives and politicians on how to spin conservative policy proposals. (He was on The Daily Show demonstrating his talents, defining "manipulation" as "explanation and education.") Paul Wolfowitz admitted to Vanity Fair that "weapons of mass destruction" was agreed upon as the reason to go to war with Iraq because it was the most salable rationale. And we all know how that turned out.

Before we can win the great battle of ideas, we must debunk the right's political discourse, a veritable code of encrypted language that twists common usage to deceive the public for the Republicans' purposes. The key to their linguistic strategy is to use words that sound moderate to us but mean something completely different to them. Their tactics range from the childish use of antonyms ("clean" = "dirty") to the pseudo-academic use of prefixes ("neo" is a favorite) to the pernicious and very expensive rebranding of traditional labels ("liberal" as an insult).

We decided we needed to break the code by building a Republican dictionary. Skewer their deceptions with the fine-tipped sword of satire. Lies melt away in the face of mockery.


"burning bush" n. A biblical allusion to the response of the President of the United States when asked a question by a journalist who has not been paid to inquire [Bill Moyers, New York, NY].

Cheney, Dick n. The greater of two evils [Jacob McCullar, Austin, Tex.].

China n. See Wal-Mart [Rebecca Solnit, San Francisco, Calif.].

class warfare n. Any attempt to raise the minimum wage [Don Zweir, Grayslake, Ill.].

climate change n. The blessed day when the blue states are swallowed by the oceans [Ann Klopp, Princeton, NJ].

compassionate conservatism n. Poignant concern for the very wealthy [Lawrence Sandek, Twin Peaks, Calif.].

creationism n. Pseudoscience that claims George W. Bush's resemblance to a chimpanzee is totally coincidental [Brian Sweeney, Providence, RI].

DeLay, Tom n. 1. Past tense of De Lie [Rick Rodstrom, Los Angeles, Calif.]. 2. Patronage saint [Andrew Magni, Nonatum, Mass.].

democracy n. A product so extensively exported that the domestic supply is depleted [Michael Schwartz, unknown].

dittohead n. An Oxy(contin)moron [Zydeco Boudreaux, Gretna, La.].

energy independence n. The caribou witness relocation program [Justin Rezzonico, Keene, Ohio].

extraordinary rendition n. Outsourcing torture [Milton Feldon, Laguna Woods, Calif.].

faith n. The stubborn belief that God approves of Republican moral values despite the preponderance of textual evidence to the contrary [Matthew Polly, Topeka, Kans.].

Fox News fict. Faux news [Justin Rezzonico, Keene, Ohio].

free markets n. Halliburton no-bid contracts at taxpayer expense [Sean O'Brian, Chicago, Ill.].

girly men n. Males who do not grope women inappropriately [Nick Gill, Newton, Mass.].

God n. Senior presidential adviser [Martin Richard, Belgrade, Mont.].

growth n. 1. The justification for tax cuts for the rich. 2. What happens to the national debt when Republicans cut taxes on the rich [Matthew Polly, Topeka, Kans.].

habeas corpus n. Archaic. (Lat.) Legal term no longer in use (See Patriot Act) [Josh Wanstreet, Nutter Fort, WV].

healthy forest n. No tree left behind [Dan McWilliams, Santa Barbara, Calif.].

homelandism n. A neologism for love of the Homeland Security State, as in "My Homeland, 'tis of thee, sweet security state of liberty..." [Tom Engelhardt, New York, NY].

honesty n. Lies told in simple declarative sentences--e.g., "Freedom is on the march" [Katrina vanden Heuvel, New York, NY].

House of Representatives n. Exclusive club; entry fee $1 million to $5 million (See Senate) [Adam Hochschild, San Francisco, Calif.].

laziness n. When the poor are not working [Justin Rezzonico, Keene, Ohio].

leisure time n. When the wealthy are not working [Justin Rezzonico, Keene, Ohio].

liberal(s) n. Followers of the Antichrist [Ann Wegher, Montello, Wisc.].

Miller, Zell n. The man who shot and killed Alexander Hamilton after a particularly tough interview on Hardball [Drew Dillion, Arlington, Va.].

neoconservatives n. Nerds with Napoleonic complexes [Matthew Polly, Topeka, Kans.].

9/11 n. Tragedy used to justify any administrative policy, especially if unrelated (See Deficit, Iraq War) [Dan Mason, Durham, NH].

No Child Left Behind riff. 1. v. There are always jobs in the military [Ann Klopp, Princeton, NJ]. 2. n. The rapture [Samantha Hess, Cottonwood, Ariz.].

ownership society n. A civilization where 1 percent of the population controls 90 percent of the wealth [Michael Albert, Piscataway, NJ].

Patriot Act n. 1. The pre-emptive strike on American freedoms to prevent the terrorists from destroying them first. 2. The elimination of one of the reasons why they hate us [Michael Thomas, Socorro, NM].

pro-life adj. Valuing human life up until birth [Kevin Weaver, San Francisco, Calif.].

Senate n. Exclusive club; entry fee $10 million to $30 million [Adam Hochschild, San Francisco, Calif.].

simplify v. To cut the taxes of Republican donors [Katrina vanden Heuvel, New York, NY].

staying the course interj. Slang. Saying and doing the same stupid thing over and over, regardless of the result [Suzanne Smith, Ann Arbor, Mich.].

stuff happens interj. Slang. Donald Rumsfeld as master historian [Sheila and Chalmers Johnson, San Diego, Calif.].

voter fraud n. A significant minority turnout [Sue Bazy, Philadelphia, Pa.].

Wal-Mart n. The nation-state, future tense [Rebecca Solnit, San Francisco, Calif.].

water n. Arsenic storage device [Joy Losee, Gainesville, Ga.].

woman n. 1. Person who can be trusted to bear a child but can't be trusted to decide whether or not she wishes to have thechild. 2. Person who must have all decisions regarding herreproductive functions made by men with whom she wouldn't want to have sex in the first place [Denise Clay, Philadelphia, Pa.].

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Poor LABF.

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#356 is pretty funny, though.

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#356 is pretty funny, though.

#356 is undoubtedly the one that has W*GS' sphincter in knots.

Anything that smacks of a favorable assessment of Clinton's presidency tends to do that.

After all, according to W*GS' warped sense of ethics, whenever Bush or any republican screws up or gets into hot water, the mere mention of Clinton's name is sufficient for complete absolution.

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Thanks for the am laugh, LABF.

Clearly, any disputation of Clinton's sainthood has a remarkable effect on you - you get all snippy. Even the slightest bit o' humor at God's (errr, I meant "Clinton") expense gets you all lathered up, and launches you on yet another "let's make up nonsense about W*GS and attack him" tirade.

Exactly as I expected and intended. You're a fun (and easy) plaything.

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Ha ha ha!

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W*GS: The last of the BushCo chickenheads.

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Where have all the Bush/Cheney bumper stickers gone?

By Dave Lindorff

Has anyone seen a car with one of those 2004 "Bush/Cheney" bumper stickers on it lately? It's been days since I've noticed one.

My community, which is about 50 percent Republican, used to be full of them, mostly pasted on the backs of hulking SUVs and brightly colored Hummers.

Suddenly, I'm just not seeing the things anymore. I suppose it's possible that they all just fell off, but then why am I still seeing Kerry/Edwards bumper stickers? Did Democrats use better glue?

No, I suspect something else is at work: buyers' remorse, or maybe shame.

At this point, it must be a little embarrassing to have a sticker on your car broadcasting the fact that you voted for those two clowns. :clown: :redbutt:

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(Guaranteed to make LABF go bananas!)

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Well, at least we know one guy who is probably still proudly displaying his Bush/Cheney sticker.

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Well, at least we know one guy who is probably still proudly displaying his Bush/Cheney sticker.

I didn't vote for them in either 2000 or 2004. The only bumper sticker on my car is Colorado's "Native".

Too bad you can't put a bumper sticker on your tricycle.

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W*GS: Doing for Bush what Monica did for Bill since 2000.

[W*GS]

W*GS: Doing for Bush what Monica did for Bill since 2000.

LABF: Obsessed with Clinton's thang since 1992 (at least).

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Isn't it funny? W*GS identifies himself as an "atheist" - yet he's the OM's most tenacious defender of an administration which is completely beholden to the religious far-right - an administration bought and paid for by those who would turn America into a theocracy (see Kenneth Blackwell in OH for just one example.)

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Isn't it funny? W*GS identifies himself as an "athiest" - yet he's the OM's most tenacious defender of an administration which is completely beholden to the religious far-right - an administration bought and paid for by those who would turn America into a theocracy (see Kenneth Blackwell in OH for just one example.)

Sigh.

Interesting that you, LABF, a "tenacious" decrier of the influence of Big Money on politics, is a wholehearted supporter and rationaliser for the Democrats, who are the very definition of the plaything of Big Money - read Soros, the public sector unions, and the Trial Lawyer's Association. I've dared you many times to go to opensecrets.org and let the facts inform your views, but you've always declined. I believe a serious dose of fear of the truth and denial of the reality of the Democratic Party keeps you from finding the facts.

I'm not a Republican, never been a member of the GOP, nor have I ever voted for any GOP candidate nor supported them financially or in any other way. You, LABF, on the other hand, are apparently a tried-and-true member of the Democratic Party. Before you start lobbing stones at me (in your inimitable strawman style), I suggest you get your own Party cleaned up. I'll leave it to you how best to do that - but it is safe to say that taking potshots at me on the OM, indeed, all the time you spend on the OM generally, is not really a good way of going about it.

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Perfect summation of W*GS' response to all Bush critics:

http://www.bartcop.com/women-monkeys.jpg

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

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Jenna Jameson plans to fight 'religious right' at council meeting

Lesley Wright
The Arizona Republic

SCOTTSDALE - Adult film star Jenna Jameson said she will appear at a Scottsdale City Council meeting Monday to try and save her new Club Jenna from a restrictive new ordinance.

Jameson blasted the city for handing its sexually oriented businesses ordinance to attorney Scott Bergthold, "a well-known hired gun for the religious right" to revise the code.

"Erotic dancing has been declared a legal form of artistic expression in court after court, including the U.S. Supreme Court," Jameson said.

"Whether you want to watch erotic dances or not is entirely up to you," Jameson said, "but no one has the right to impose their own narrow moralism on the rest of us, and that is exactly what Mr. Bergthold is advising Mayor Mary Manross to do."

The council will go through a laundry list of options for revising the ordinance. Some of the restrictions would outlaw topless dancing and alcohol, a move that Skin Cabaret owner Todd Borowsky said would effectively shut them down.

Skin, which won the 2004 Best of Phoenix award from New Times, has operated from 1137 N. Scottsdale Road for 30 years with little notice from residents.

That changed in August, when Jameson purchased the long-lived Babe's Cabaret just up Scottsdale Road and prepared for a major renovation.

Scottsdale officials had planned to revise the ordinance anyway to bring it up to date with recent court rulings, but decided to give it a closer look as a result of community outcry over Babe's.

Borowsky said that he and his lawyer, First Amendment attorney John H. Weston, were shut out of the process during the drafting of the ordinance. When they finally saw it on Dec. 2, they were appalled.

"In my experience, this is a very, very extremist proposal," said Weston, who has practiced First Amendment law for 25 years. "I have not seen this attempted in Arizona, California or any of the Western states."

The Scottsdale City Attorney's Office has refused to discuss the issue before Monday's meeting.

Bergthold, who is associated with a Christian-based non-profit group of attorneys called the Alliance Defense Fund, also declined comment.

If the restrictions go through, he likely will be talking to some judges.

"I think this piece of legislation is potentially the subject of litigation for many lawyers in many courts for a very long period of time," Weston.

The council meeting begins at 5 p.m. at Scottsdale City Hall, 3939 N. Drinkwater Blvd.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/1209nesexbiz-ON.html

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Quotes

"Christmas and the New Year are actually two holidays. So there is a plural,
which in the English language, necessitates the use of 's.' I suppose you could say 'Merry Christmas' and 'Happy New Year,' but you probably have sh*t to do."

- Jon Stewart, on the O'Reilly whore's objection to "Happy Holidays"

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[W*GS]

LABF's actual picture:

http://www.compfused.com/directlink/855/

[ClevelandBronco2]

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I don't know about mock executions, but Mock's posts are definitely torture.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I don't know about mock executions, but Mock's posts are definitely torture.

:thumbsup:

Another point upon which most liberals and conservatives will agree.

Waterdink is sort of like W*GS - with a constant IV drip of Jack Daniels.

:D

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[W*GS]

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[W*GS]

Thanks for proving that the only opinions you're interested in are your own, LABF. Any deviation from your loony orthodoxy is met with juvenile insults.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Post a Bush 'toon and Whigs the right-wing attack chihuahua starts yapping.

Just like clockwork.

Dance, Whigs, dance!

:giggle:

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

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[W*GS]

No comment.

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[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Awwww!

Am I picking on your team again, W*GS?

Poor little fella.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Ha ha ha.

W*GS never did get the satire thing.

:laugh:

[Atlas]

This is very funny

http://www.ifilm.com/WMPPlaylist.asx?l=-1015365714&ifilmId=2691992&bandwidth=300

I like how he pledges $400 relief for Katrina

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

This is very funny

http://www.ifilm.com/WMPPlaylist.asx?l=-1015365714&ifilmId=2691992&bandwidth=300

I like how he pledges $400 relief for Katrina

LOL

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"I thought President Clinton was maybe the best. It was his crowd. They talk about Bill Clinton being 'the first black president,' well when you walk into that church with 12,000 or whatever it was, I mean it was very clear who that crowd loved and respected."

- George H.H. Bush, on Bill Clinton's reception at the Coretta Scott King funeral

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/02/10/politics/main1303595.shtml


It was also very clear who was not loved or respected...

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[Atlas]

George Bush test

http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/I/-/bush_poland_test.gif

[Atlas]

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[Atlas]

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[Atlas]

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Lol Lol

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Hilarious!

^5

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[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

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[Atlas]

George Bushisms

http://www.compfused.com/directlink/1207/

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Watch this drive...

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[Atlas]

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That one ain't no sh!t. We are borrowing billions of $$$ every year from China and Japan to fund this government. They are going to own the country pretty soon.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

That one ain't no sh!t. We are borrowing billions of $$$ every year from China and Japan to fund this government. They are going to own the country pretty soon.

The kind of America Bush is trying to create is one in which there are two classes:

Bush and his super-wealthy elite pals, and the illegals and sweatshop workers who do all the sh_t jobs and heavy lifting for them for peanuts.

[Atlas]

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[Atlas]

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[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

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:rofl: ^5

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[Atlas]

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[Atlas]

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[Atlas]

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[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

:laugh:

^5

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Quote of the Day

"Bush looked into Putin's eyes and saw his soul. Putin looked into Bush's ear
and saw daylight on the other side."

- Will Durst

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Memo to the Democrats

http://www.bartcop.com/demobear1.jpg

It's yours if you want it. All you have to do is grab it.

http://www.bartcop.com/demobear2.jpg

That's it - You can do it!

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Success!

Now what do you do with it?

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Bush looking thru the binoculars with the lens caps on ....... PRICELESS!

[Atlas]

Bush looking thru the binoculars with the lens caps on ....... PRICELESS!
That is amazing. I wondered if that picture was photoshopped, but I doubt it.

I don't think this is a photoshp job. I hear Bush is a good dancer.
http://us.a2.yahoofs.com/users/43dac25bz6d05d47d/d553/__sr_/219d.jpg?phgwCOEB0xT1d3Dc

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Can't see the pics Atlas

[Atlas]

Can't see the pics Atlas

http://us.a2.yahoofs.com/users/43dac25bz6d05d47d/d553/__sr_/219d.jpg?phgwCOEB0xT1d3Dc

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

http://www.bartcop.com/pyramid-monkey.JPG
"It's my job to level with the American people..."
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[clarker]

http://www.bartcop.com/pyramid-monkey.JPG
"It's my job to level with the American people..."
http://www.bartcop.com/w-leaks.jpg
http://www.bartcop.com/leak-sinking.jpgThat one is pretty funny.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

:laugh:

[Atlas]

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LOL

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"Bush has not yet been held accountable for any of his actions over the past 5 years. Why start now? He knows that the press, which has enabled his lying and political backstabbing, will never hold him accountable because to do so would be to expose their complicity in this disastrous government. The Republicans are telling us to move forward, when every act they take moves us backwards."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stephen-elliott/fitzgerald-bush-and-the_b_18836.html

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[Atlas]

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"Bush has not yet been held accountable for any of his actions over the past 5 years. Why start now? He knows that the press, which has enabled his lying and political backstabbing, will never hold him accountable because to do so would be to expose their complicity in this disastrous government. The Republicans are telling us to move forward, when every act they take moves us backwards."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stephen-elliott/fitzgerald-bush-and-the_b_18836.html

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It's amazing after all the blunders this administration has made that no one Not one single person has been fired.
From 911 to tales about WMDs in Iraq to the failed war in Iraq of going in with to few soldiers and a failed policy ever since.
leaking information about CIA employees to Abu Grhaib and torture operations in Afghanistan and Eastern Europe.

It's a joke. 2 more years(sigh)

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

It's amazing after all the blunders this administration has made that no one Not one single person has been fired.
From 911 to tales about WMDs in Iraq to the failed war in Iraq of going in with to few soldiers and a failed policy ever since.
leaking information about CIA employees to Abu Grhaib and torture operations in Afghanistan and Eastern Europe.

It's a joke. 2 more years(sigh)

There's one thing the bush crime family is very good at, viz., making sure that it can't be held accountable for its high crimes and misdemeanors.

It's like Al Capone is running the country.

The scariest part is that there are goobers in America who believe this is a good thing (and even scarier that many of them call themselves "Christians.")

:pity:

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

What You Need To Believe To Be A Republican

01) Jesus loves you, and shares your hatred of homosexuals, Arabs, and Hillary Clinton.

02) Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when Bush's daddy made war on him, a good guy when Cheney and Rumsfeld did business with him, and a bad guy when Bush couldn't find Bin Laden.

03) Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is Communist, but trade with China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of international harmony.

04) The United States should get out of the United Nations, and our highest national priority is enforcing U.N. resolutions against Iraq.

05) A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body, but multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting all mankind without regulation.

06) The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in speeches, while slashing veterans' benefits and combat pay.

07) If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't have sex.

8) A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle and antagonize our long-time allies, then demand their cooperation and money.

09) Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy, but providing health care to all Americans is socialism.

10) HMOs and insurance companies have the best interests of the public at heart.

11) Global warming and tobacco's link to cancer are junk science, but creationism should be taught in schools.

12) A president lying about an extramarital affair is a impeachable offense, but a president lying to enlist support for a war in which thousands die is solid defense policy.

13) Government should limit itself to the powers named in the Constitution, which include banning gay marriages and censoring the Internet (in fact, my sending this to you might come back to haunt me).

14) The public has a right to know about Hillary's cattle trades, but George Bush's and Dick Cheney's driving records are none of our business.

15) Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you're a conservative radio host. Then it's an illness and you need our prayers for your recovery.

16) Supporting "Executive Privilege" is imperative for every Republican ever born, who will be born or who might be born in perpetuity.

17) What Bill Clinton did in the 1960s is of vital national interest, but what Bush did in the '80s is irrelevant.

18) There's nothing wrong with supporting drunken hunters who shoot their friends and blaming the friends for looking too much like quail.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Bill O'Reilly in "Polishing My Peabody"

http://www.toostupidtobepresident.com/shockwave/aar/oreilly.htm

Hilarious!

[Atlas]

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[Atlas]

OK this can't be a real pic!!!!

http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/n/b/bush_twins_prank.jpg

[Atlas]

I wonder if Iraqis had it to do all over again if they would have rather perfered to do this.

http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/0/a/bush_statue_baghdad.jpg

[Atlas]

An oldie but a goodie
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[Atlas]

These misleading ads should have told us a lot of what we soon found out about this administration...... deception and lies

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[Atlas]

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[Atlas]

This administration has proved to be liars.

http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/J/7/bush_spiderman2.jpg

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[Atlas]

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[Atlas]

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[Atlas]

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Not to mention all the Americans who died because "I wasn't on point, I didn't feel a sense of urgency..."

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[W*GS]

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[Atlas]

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what is it??

[Atlas]

Not to mention all the Americans who died because "I wasn't on point, I didn't feel a sense of urgency..."

http://www.bartcop.com/katrina-seal.jpg

What about the "wanted dead or alive" crap he said about Bin Laden? Like he was some Smaltown hick Sheriff.

[mhgaffney]

LABF once posted a pic of a sheep watching Bush on FoxNews. I loved that pic.

It was me.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

It was me.

I posted it awhile back also.

[Atlas]

I posted it awhile back also.

There are a lot of great picks on this thread.

[Atlas]

http://z.about.com/d/atheism/1/7/7/-/3/NaziBrutalityChristian-e.jpg

[Atlas]

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[Atlas]

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Hilarious!

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

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[Atlas]

This one Tensi would agree with.
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Bush Family Evil Empire
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Bush's "bring 'em on" death taunt is up to 2691 American victims.

THREE more Bush victims since yesterday.

[Atlas]

Here are some Foley cartoons!!
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[Atlas]

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[Atlas]

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[Atlas]

http://cagle.com/news/FoleyFoibles/images/cohen.jpg

Hilarious!Hilarious!Hilarious!Hilarious!Hilarious! Hilarious!Hilarious!Hilarious!Hilarious!

[Atlas]

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[Atlas]

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[Atlas]

Ain't this one the truth.
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[Atlas]

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[Atlas]

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[Montaq]

I'm disapointed to come back and find this thread all but dead and buried. :(