Would you take Portis back?

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I know at least a few people here loved him. Taco John looked like someone had shot his dog the day Portis was traded.

Would you take him back?

[Hogan11]

Nope......next question

[SoCalBronco]

I know at least a few people here loved him. Taco John looked like someone had shot his dog the day Portis was traded.

Would you take him back?

For his rookie contract salary sure, but not for his Skins deal.

[orange crusher]

For his rookie contract salary sure, but not for his Skins deal.

I'll second that (and it's just to take him back - no Champ Bailey included).

[Bronx33]

Ummm NO! or maybe if he took a paycut and had his mouth stitched shut and found somebody to dress him correctly.

[Meck77]

Yeah sure. After he took a pay cut, agreed to be a team player, agreed to not act like a Flava Clown, and apologized to all Broncos fans on the NFL network for telling the media that one of the reasons he was leaving town was because the Broncos fans never supported him when we all know he left for the money.

In other words he isn't coming back under my terms.

[Spider]

Take Portis Back ?
Sniffing car exhaust again hey bob ?
Hell yeah Take portis back if the Price is right , but then that is standard for any player now isnt it ........
Go ahead Bob Tell me how you would be biatching , stomping your feet , if the Cheifs were to Bring Portis in ...........

[Bob's your Information Minister]

I'd pissed if we brought him in, yes. We don't need him.

Now, if we didn't have LJ and Priest retired...BRING IN PORTIS! It would be too much fun with the Broncos in the same division.

[RhymesayersDU]

No, but only because we churn out RB's every year.

[labronx]

I'd pissed if we brought him in, yes. We don't need him.

Now, if we didn't have LJ and Priest retired...BRING IN PORTIS! It would be too much fun with the Broncos in the same division.

the real question is do you want Portis as a chief?

[Bob's your Information Minister]

the real question is do you want Portis as a chief?

In the right situation, yes. He's more talented than 90 percent of the backs in this league.

[Spider]

I'd pissed if we brought him in, yes. We don't need him.

Now, if we didn't have LJ and Priest retired...BRING IN PORTIS! It would be too much fun with the Broncos in the same division.
:bs: some one else ......... Seriously , if Portis out Preforms anyone one , he would be a starter ,and you ass would be making a Thread ... Hey Al Wilson meet your new friend .........

[Pendejo]

Yeah...it all depends on the terms of his return. I like the guy, but not with the price tag he's currently carrying.

Saying that...I'd make the same trade that brought Bailey and Bell for Portis...a million times out of a million.

[IHaveALight]

In a couple of years when his contract ballons and the skins cut him, I'd be glad to have him back at the right price. I wouldn't trade anything for him though.

[BRONCCRUSHFAN]

Cough, Hack (Soda comes flying from my flared nostrils), are you smoking some of that backwoods Missouri Grown rag weed, Bob? Not just no, but hell no. I know that wasn't a choice, but I made it so. For him to be allowed back on the Broncos (this is the world according to BCF), he would have to take a HUGE paycut. He would need to learn that the Broncos and the NFL do not revolve around CP. He would have to stop his daily whining about his contract and that the Broncos aren't showing him any love. Shove that heavyweight belt somewhere where the sun doesn't shine. Apologize to every Broncos and NFL fan for his cry baby whiny attitude, and saying the Broncos fans didn't have his back. Finally, learn to dress that shows you are a man of good character. We here in Denver have seen what happens when you have a team with men of good character, and unfortunately CP is a clown.

[Mr. Trout]

I'm the only one who voted yes. I would like to have 5 TD's in a game again. Sure

[Dukes]

I'm a pretty vengefull person, so no way in hell would i want that douche back. He got what he wanted......$$$$$$$$$

[Bronx33]

I'm the only one who voted yes. I would like to have 5 TD's in a game again. Sure


Trout that hood has been jacking with you for 3 days now......

[ClevelandBronco2]

One question for all you guys who say you'd never take him back:

What, you've never made it with an ex?

[Hogan11]

One question for all you guys who say you'd never take him back:

What, you've never made it with an ex?

Made it yes.....took them back? No.

[BRONCCRUSHFAN]

Hot, sweaty, pig sex, yes. Took them back, not even after begging on their knees :giggle:

[Jason in LA]

Take back a scat back who can't get the tough yards and puts the team in 2nd and 3rd and long too much? Nope. I said all those things while Portis was going for 3000+ yards with the Broncos. He doesn't get the meaningful yards.

Last year Bell only had one carry for a loss. That's more effective than Portis' style. I'll take Bell over Portis at the same price. Bell will back up that statement by the end of the year.

[Spider]

The Point is , you fill the field with your best , question is who is the best ?
Portis may not be tough , a scat back , But Portis was productive in our system ,a threat everytime he touched the ball ..... If Portis were to come back and Bell out preformed him , then so be it , but With Portis history with us , you at least have to give him a chance if the $$ 's are right .........

[Paladin]

No.


That says it all right there.

[Spider]

No.


That says it all right there.
I see ...... a shot in the dark here ..... maybe thats why you are posting on the internet and not in dove valley .......

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Not after what happened after he left the team: saying the fans didn't love him, the whole Ohalete ordeal, and telling Sean Taylor that it was ok to stay away from the Skins offseason workouts.

[Spider]

Not after what happened after he left the team: saying the fans didn't love him, the whole Ohalete ordeal, and telling Sean Taylor that it was ok to stay away from the Skins offseason workouts.
Gold talked shiat also ..

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Gold talked shiat also ..

and Gold shouldn't have been brought back, especially for what he was given.

[Kaylore]

I'd take him back for cheap. Who wouldn't? I don't hate Portis at all and I wish him well. I just hope his team sucks this year, that's all.

[RhymesayersDU]

I'd take him back for cheap. Who wouldn't? I don't hate Portis at all and I wish him well. I just hope his team sucks this year, that's all.

Wow, an actual thought, instead of homeristic babble.

Refreshing.

[Bronx33]

I'd take him back for cheap. Who wouldn't? I don't hate Portis at all and I wish him well. I just hope his team sucks this year, that's all.

Khan has anybody ever mention you have cleavage?

[Kaylore]

Khan has anybody ever mention you have cleavage?

[Bronx33]

YEP! it's true....but it's a good thing ask the klingon bit*che*.

[BroncoMatt]

He is a super talent, of course I would take him back. But I wouldn't give Champ back nor would I give him a superstar contract, if the price is right who wouldn't want any pro-bowler on their team?

[Jason in LA]

The Point is , you fill the field with your best , question is who is the best ?
Portis may not be tough , a scat back , But Portis was productive in our system ,a threat everytime he touched the ball ..... If Portis were to come back and Bell out preformed him , then so be it , but With Portis history with us , you at least have to give him a chance if the $$ 's are right .........

Portis was the most exciting back, and the back that could get a big play at any time. But that type of back isn't as effective as a back that will give you good yards every carry. RD was more effective than Portis, even though RD wasn't a big play threat. The running game was better with RD. Bell should be a mix between the two. He has Portis speed, with about 20 extra lbs. Hopefully he has some toughness. I've never been a fan of scat backs, including Portis. Sure, the stats look pretty, and they make good highlights, but they don't lead teams to wins.

[Quagmire]

No getting him back for what reason? The guy cant honor his contract and doesnt show up for camp. He thrived in our system but isnt that good in DC as he was here. Besides we got Maurice to entertain us and Tatum Bell who I think will be 10 times better than Rueben Droughns. Thats not to say Reuben sucked just that Tatum is that much better talentwise. Also one more thing, Portis would have to get rid of his agent for me to even CONSIDER the possibility of him coming back.

[clarker]

I don't know about last year with the Skins, but it seemed that Portis took himself out the game if someone so much as breathed on him. I think he was worried about getting hurt before his big pay day. I didn't like that. But man is that guy fast.

Bell looks pretty damn fast as well, so if he can stay on the field this year, I think he will do just fine.

[Kaylore]

Portis was the most exciting back, and the back that could get a big play at any time. But that type of back isn't as effective as a back that will give you good yards every carry. RD was more effective than Portis, even though RD wasn't a big play threat. The running game was better with RD. Bell should be a mix between the two. He has Portis speed, with about 20 extra lbs. Hopefully he has some toughness. I've never been a fan of scat backs, including Portis. Sure, the stats look pretty, and they make good highlights, but they don't lead teams to wins.
You're absolutely correct. It was better to have a slower back that makes people miss and can grind the tough yards than a 2-3 yards-per-carry back that rips off a big one now and then. A back that can consistantly get us 4-5 yards will set up all the other dominos in our offense to really make things happen.

Some have suggested that with the new rule-calling, the run game isn't as important and emphasis should be put on the pass game to exploit the advantages there. I see it as the opposite. I think that everyone is going to have great passing games (look at lasy year) and the teams with a strong rushing offense to compliment that are the ones that will excel.

[clarker]

Gold talked shiat also ..Bingo, if Gold could come back, then Portis could to. Shannon Sharpe didn't have to many kind words to say about Shanny or Denver for that matter(the never made me feel at home,B-more did so I got a house>>) when he left for the Ravens and he still came back.

The only reason Portis couldn't come back is..$$$$$! No, cap room for him.

[Clockwork Orange]

Sharpe & Gold aren't running backs, which has proven to be an area that's easy to replace around here with a minimal amount of financial commitment.

Portis and his contract can stay in Washington.

[clarker]

Sharpe & Gold aren't running backs, which has proven to be an area that's easy to replace around here with a minimal amount of financial commitment.

Portis and his contract can stay in Washington.Sorry to go off topic,but I have a question. Who is the guy in your Avatar?

[Clockwork Orange]

Sorry to go off topic,but I have a question. Who is the guy in your Avatar?

Mitch Hedberg.

[clarker]

Mitch Hedberg.Sorry but I don't know who that is. It is sad that someone that young pass away.

[Jetmeck]

I know at least a few people here loved him. Taco John looked like someone had shot his dog the day Portis was traded.

Would you take him back?

Another reason to ban this idiot !!!!!

[Al Wilson]

I'de love to have Portis back.

[Spider]

Portis was the most exciting back, and the back that could get a big play at any time. But that type of back isn't as effective as a back that will give you good yards every carry. RD was more effective than Portis, even though RD wasn't a big play threat. The running game was better with RD. Bell should be a mix between the two. He has Portis speed, with about 20 extra lbs. Hopefully he has some toughness. I've never been a fan of scat backs, including Portis. Sure, the stats look pretty, and they make good highlights, but they don't lead teams to wins.
Basicaly you are making the Big Play vs the Chain moving , clock controling 3 yards and a cloud of dust argument ........
Both offenses have merit , depending on your defense ....... If you have a stout Defense , kinda hard not to go with a home run threat , if you have a weak D or a middle of the pack D , then you want grind it out keep the score low ...... What sold me on portis was a 4 down and short vs the Rams Portis was a rook, Griese threw portis the ball , Portis got the first down ...... Pure clutch ..... Like I say there is alot of factors to take in .......

[clarker]

Basicaly you are making the Big Play vs the Chain moving , clock controling 3 yards and a cloud of dust argument ........
Both offenses have merit , depending on your defense ....... If you have a stout Defense , kinda hard not to go with a home run threat , if you have a weak D or a middle of the pack D , then you want grind it out keep the score low ...... What sold me on portis was a 4 down and short vs the Rams Portis was a rook, Griese threw portis the ball , Portis got the first down ...... Pure clutch ..... Like I say there is alot of factors to take in .......Portis' ability to run low and get yards right up the middle was underrated too.

But Portis and his agent priced himself out of Denver. If he were playing for a team that had not proved that it could turn just about any back into a 1,000 yard rusher, he would have had more leverage.

[Spider]

Portis' ability to run low and get yards right up the middle was underrated too.

But Portis and his agent priced himself out of Denver. If he were playing for a team that had not proved that it could turn just about any back into a 1,000 yard rusher, he would have had more leverage.
I would agree with that , but I would point out , we didnt control the clock well with Portis , but if these Browncos work out , controling the clock isnt as big of a deal ;D

[clarker]

I would agree with that , but I would point out , we didnt control the clock well with Portis , but if these Browncos work out , controling the clock isnt as big of a deal ;DTrue. But no defense can be out on the field the majority of the time game after game. By the end of the season your D would be worn out. It seems to take more energy to play defense than offense.

Even the 85 Bears and 2000 Ravens needed a good running game to give them some rest.

[Spider]

True. But no defense can be out on the field the majority of the time game after game. By the end of the season your D would be worn out. It seems to take more energy to play defense than offense.

Even the 85 Bears and 2000 Ravens needed a good running game to give them some rest.
either that or force the other team to gamble more .... but now we are splitting hairs ;D

[Nuggets4]

Mitch Hedberg.

One of the greatest comedians of the last decade.

[wabbit]

The answer to this simpleton question is another question;

Why wouldn't anyone take a gifted RB if the right situation presented itself?

Next question; why take up board space with mind numbing polls like this??

I know it's off-season, but criminy, I'm sure you can find innumerable Chiefy fans elsewhere more than willing to discuss topics of this depth...or lack thereof; beer can ambience for your home, creative uses for your gear shift nob...why your mother, and father for that matter, don't look like you

Damn, 'Bob, I know the world is a tightly confined closet for you KC people, but can't you dip just a little deeper into your vast reservoir of life experience?

Sheesh

[Mr. Trout]

Trout that hood has been jacking with you for 3 days now......

The hood is there I guess bronx...but portis did a lot for us and he is better than Tatum Bell...We had a diamond and we let him go... So what if he talks ****...Every good player in the NFL talks ****...For two seasons he had numbers to compare to hall of famers. It is about winning...Im sorry to say all the people who talk about character on a team are wishful thinking...players win the game and portis is one of them.

[Atlas]

Portis is a good back and despite his style or lack thereof he is a pretty good guy. Since Denver finds backs everywhere If he came back to Denver his greatest value would be for Denver to trade him. So yes I would like to see Portis come back to Denver and then I would like to see Denver trade him for a quality S and a draft pick.

[Taco John]

I'd take Portis back without even thinking too much about it. He was popular in the locker room, and his antics were pretty tame in comparison to a gun-weilding thug like Diaper Boy. Portis might wear Bob the Builder overalls, and declare his team the "team to beat" in December, but he backs it up by giving everything he's got to be the best he can be. The minute he stops doing that is the minute I'll refuse to have him on my team. But even on the Redskins, he's going to be a top 5 RB pick in fantasy leagues across the nation.

[Rascal]

He wasn't top five last year TJ.

[Jason in LA]

Basicaly you are making the Big Play vs the Chain moving , clock controling 3 yards and a cloud of dust argument ........
Both offenses have merit , depending on your defense ....... If you have a stout Defense , kinda hard not to go with a home run threat , if you have a weak D or a middle of the pack D , then you want grind it out keep the score low ...... What sold me on portis was a 4 down and short vs the Rams Portis was a rook, Griese threw portis the ball , Portis got the first down ...... Pure clutch ..... Like I say there is alot of factors to take in .......

I'd take the chain moving RB over the big play RB. I want the effective yards.

The problem with both Portis and RD is that they fit perfectly into one catagory, but not the other. They don't have that good mix. TD had the prefect mix of the two. That made him special. There are other backs, like LT, Fred Taylor (when he isn't hurt), Shaun Alexander, Ahman Green (when he isn't fumbling), Priest Holmes, Corey Dillon, Curtis Martin, and Edgrin James, who also have that good mix of the two. Emmit Smith had a good mix of the two. We'll have to wait and see what Bell can do. He has the big play potential like all those backs, but can he get the tough yards like those backs is the question. He has the size to do it. He's as big as some of the backs on the list I gave, including TD. And he's probably faster than most, if not all of them. He has the size and speed to fit both catagories. If he has the toughness, he'll be much better than Portis.

[Jason in LA]

he is better than Tatum Bell

At this point that is a true statement, but mostly because Bell hasn't had the chance to show what he can do. Bell might make that statement false by the end of the season. I think he'll out rush Portis, and probably out due what Portis did as a Bronco.

Coming out of college Portis was probably rated a little better than Bell, but not by much. I'd say Bell has just as much talent as Portis. He just has to prove it on the field.

[chanesaw]

How many TD's did Droughns score? Give me a Portis over a Droughns anyday.

BTW, I would take Portis back in a heartbeat, but I hope Bell makes me forget all about Clinton.

[Spider]

I'd take the chain moving RB over the big play RB. I want the effective yards.

The problem with both Portis and RD is that they fit perfectly into one catagory, but not the other. They don't have that good mix. TD had the prefect mix of the two. That made him special. There are other backs, like LT, Fred Taylor (when he isn't hurt), Shaun Alexander, Ahman Green (when he isn't fumbling), Priest Holmes, Corey Dillon, Curtis Martin, and Edgrin James, who also have that good mix of the two. Emmit Smith had a good mix of the two. We'll have to wait and see what Bell can do. He has the big play potential like all those backs, but can he get the tough yards like those backs is the question. He has the size to do it. He's as big as some of the backs on the list I gave, including TD. And he's probably faster than most, if not all of them. He has the size and speed to fit both catagories. If he has the toughness, he'll be much better than Portis.
I though Portis was a real threat catching , as back out of the backfield ...
If Portis had stayed in Denver , good chance he would have out done all those backs you mention with the exception of TD .................
Backs like Portis bring a unique problem to a defense , that Problem is maintaining your lanes , against Denvers run block scheme , it is hard enough ( ala 1,000 yard backs left and right ) if Portis would have stuck around , he would have exploded in this system ( ie reading blocks ) ... where we had a problem was shortyardage , Portis was too impatient to let blocks develop , this can be learned also ...... I still have not seen a solid reason why Portis shouldnt be brought back if he wanted to come, note not once have I said Portis will out preform Bell , or Portis should get the job , in this thread , all stated was Portis should get the chance to try if he wanted to , and if Bell out did portis , so be it ........ I have seen more personal reasons then fundemental reasons .......

[Jason in LA]

Well, if Portis was willing to come back for the league min, and share time with Bell, then yeah, take him back. But I don't think that's the question. A reduces salary doesn't mean he's coming back for cheap.

A perfect example of why I don't like Portis' style was the game against the Bears a couple of years back. He had like 160 yards, but about 120 of them came on two carries, and it led to 10 points. His stats looked great, he had exciting highlight runs. He was the homerun threat. And the Broncos were sitting on 10 points because he had only 40 yards on all his other carries.

In his first game for the Skins it was the same thing. Very first carry he goes for 64 yards, and the Broncos looked stupid for trading him. Skin fans were acting like they got a steal. Like it would be like that all the time. What did Portis do the rest of the game? 84 yards on 28 carries that led to three FGs. His yards per carry dropped every week.

As for Portis scoring more TDs than RD, that's true, but the Broncos scored the same amount of points in 2004 as they did in 2003. Both years they scored 381 points. In the fantacy football world it's better, but in the real world it was the exact same thing.

[Crushaholic]

I was very vocal about my dissapointment over losing Portis. However, he has turned into the flava clown that the wise people at Dove Valley quietly predicted when they let him go. I like Meck's terms...pay cut, team player, apologize to Broncos fans...

That will never happen, so I'll pass...

[Ninjafied]

Why wouldn't anyone take a gifted RB if the right situation presented itself?


I have to disagree. Some teams and their coaches do better with “me” centric players. Shanahan and the Broncos are NOT one of them. Every time he picks up a free agent with a questionable attitude the team seems to suffer in the long run; usually in some bitter falling out halfway through the season that the media loves to hop on.
The coach simple don’t tolerate that sh*t anytime their egos pick up. Heck, Shanny barely got along with Sharpe – and he was a lot more mild than Portis. And you think Portis has gotten any better with age? Maybe it the agent or the fellow Miami players, but every year he’s moving farther away from being a team player.
On a similar note – absolutely no to Moss and TO ever being a Bronco either.

[Atlas]

I have to disagree. Some teams and their coaches do better with “me” centric players. Shanahan and the Broncos are NOT one of them. Every time he picks up a free agent with a questionable attitude the team seems to suffer in the long run; usually in some bitter falling out halfway through the season that the media loves to hop on.
The coach simple don’t tolerate that sh*t anytime their egos pick up. Heck, Shanny barely got along with Sharpe – and he was a lot more mild than Portis. And you think Portis has gotten any better with age? Maybe it the agent or the fellow Miami players, but every year he’s moving farther away from being a team player.
On a similar note – absolutely no to Moss and TO ever being a Bronco either.

Good post. Sharpe drove Shanny crazy. Denver wouldn't have been resigned Sharpe after the '96 season if it wasn't for Elway stepping in.

[Mr. Trout]

At this point that is a true statement, but mostly because Bell hasn't had the chance to show what he can do. Bell might make that statement false by the end of the season. I think he'll out rush Portis, and probably out due what Portis did as a Bronco.

Coming out of college Portis was probably rated a little better than Bell, but not by much. I'd say Bell has just as much talent as Portis. He just has to prove it on the field.


It is going to be a very tall order for Bell to match Portis's production over two years. I like Bell but I think we should have kept Portis and looked for a more economical corner elsewhere. That said I do like the Champ.

[Mastermind2002]

Would I take Portis back? Nope!

[Arkie]

Portis would have to take a BIG paycut, and we get to keep Champ and Tatum. Every team passed on Portis in the draft, and then the Broncos made him look good. His best years were in Orange and always will be.

[IHaveALight]

I don't understand what everyone is saying about Portis not being effective in short yardage. Maybe it's just me but last year we couldn't convert short yardage situations for crap. Where we didn't have that problem when Portis was around. If it wasn't Portis getting the first down it was his presence that did. He opend up so many things for us in play action.
Bottom line, the Broncos short yardage game was far better off with Portis. This coming from a guy that absolutly loved the trade (and still do).

[Jason in LA]

I never complained about Portis in short yard situations. I complained about him turning 1st and 10 into 2nd and 12. That happened too much. He was easily tackled. There were too many plays where he didn't get much out of them.