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Garcia Bronco
06-16-2005, 02:51 PM
If you own a Ford you might not want to park it in your garage or near your house......they catch fire because...get this...poor design. Although the corksuckers won't admit it...You can tell if you car is infected if it has the ford emblem on it and was made after 1990. You might want to have to Cruise Control disco'ed

Saw it on CNN.

ludo21
06-16-2005, 02:53 PM
i always hated gay fords!!! break down as u drive em and cant stay together!!

Hogan11
06-16-2005, 02:55 PM
I owned a Ford once........once.

I'll never own another one even if the thing was given to me.....pure garbage, trash is too elevated a description for the Mustang I had. I paid more in repairs than I did for the car itself.

TheDave
06-16-2005, 03:14 PM
Don't let spider see this ... ;)

labronx
06-16-2005, 03:16 PM
I owned a Ford once........once.

I'll never own another one even if the thing was given to me.....pure garbage, trash is too elevated a description for the Mustang I had. I paid more in repairs than I did for the car itself.

I knew ford was skanless, once I found out that the transmission line sits directly above the steering column and time goes by it scrapes the transmission line pipe(about the thickness of a marker) and eventually it will start to leak. its about 3-4 hundred bux to replace that peice of pipe.

If you mickey mouse it you cut the pipe with a saw and pop in regular hose and bend it around the steering colum and save yourself 3-4 dollars for like 3 dollars and about an hour of work

That is either bad design or done on purpose

skanless

I've never owned a ford and never will due to that.
It belonged to my father.

crazyhorse
06-16-2005, 03:32 PM
If you own a Ford you might not want to park it in your garage or near your house......they catch fire because...get this...poor design. Although the corksuckers won't admit it...You can tell if you car is infected if it has the ford emblem on it and was made after 1990. You might want to have to Cruise Control disco'ed

Saw it on CNN.

Seems as though CNN would have reported that about 15 years ago if it's going on since '90. Must not be too many burning up if it took 'em 15 years to figure it out.

That's all I have owned since before '90. 1st I've heard of it. Is there a recall on the part? Seems like electrical and I believe the switches are made overseas.

MT-Tdawg
06-16-2005, 03:35 PM
Ford sucks. If it doesn't have a bowtie or a ram's head on the grill i probably won't drive it...well there are exeptions....

crazyhorse
06-16-2005, 03:38 PM
Ford sucks. If it doesn't have a bowtie or a ram's head on the grill i probably won't drive it...well there are exeptions....

Hey, that's great news! They are practically giving away Chevrolets right now. Seems nobody wants those anymore. They have gotten pretty ugly. Go buy ya one, they need the money.

epicSocialism4tw
06-16-2005, 03:38 PM
Ford sucks. If it doesn't have a bowtie or a ram's head on the grill i probably won't drive it...well there are exeptions....

Chevy is just as poor.

I will not buy an American made car because they are so impractical. The manufacturer expects you to foot too large of a repair bill.

Best mid-level carmakers in order:
Toyota
Honda
Nissan

They are such good vehicles and such an obvious buy that they are putting the American carmakers in some serious trouble.

FADERPROOF
06-16-2005, 03:40 PM
I drive a Ford(yes, I admit it.)

1991 Ford Taurus!

Billy Clyde Puckett
06-16-2005, 03:41 PM
Chevy is just as poor.

I will not buy an American made car because they are so impractical. The manufacturer expects you to foot too large of a repair bill.

Best mid-level carmakers in order:
Toyota
Honda
Nissan

They are such good vehicles and such an obvious buy that they are putting the American carmakers in some serious trouble.

And virtually every one of those cars you can buy is made in the US or Canada, many in the same plants as "American" cars.

Dukes
06-16-2005, 03:43 PM
This whole bashing Ford is just rediculous. Nowadays quality of the vehicle is not determined by the make, but by the care given to the vehicle by the owners. No matter what type it is, Chevy, Ford, Toyota, Dodge etc... if they owner neglects it, it's not going to last long. It's sad that nobody has even mentioned this yet :nono:

epicSocialism4tw
06-16-2005, 03:43 PM
And virtually every one of those cars you can buy is made in the US or Canada, many in the same plants as "American" cars.

Sure, but tell me why I can get 250,000 miles out of a Nissan Sentra, but by the time my Mustang hits 150,000 its all she wrote.

Those cars are not engineered in America.

Spider
06-16-2005, 03:44 PM
you guys are Killing me here ;D ........ I am more of a pick up guy though ..... And Mustangs ....
Oh before I forget .............Fords Rule ........... Have a nice day ;D

crazyhorse
06-16-2005, 03:51 PM
Chevy is just as poor.

I will not buy an American made car because they are so impractical. The manufacturer expects you to foot too large of a repair bill.

Best mid-level carmakers in order:
Toyota
Honda
Nissan

They are such good vehicles and such an obvious buy that they are putting the American carmakers in some serious trouble.

I hate to burst your bubble, but the parts for all cars are made all over the world for every make. They are only assembled in the factories. If the parts are bad then the problem could come from anywhere.

The trouble that american car makers are having, is paying the employees enough money to send thier kids too school. Not to mention health costs. If we paid them minimum wages think how much better the product could become.

Your Honda was likely made right here in the USA. Assembled by the same people. The cars being better just isn't true. I have driven American cars my whole life. Ford almost exclusively, and have yet to be stuck on the side of the road. Or paying any more in repair bills than anyone else has too. In fact, I have spent $0 in the last 15 or so years. I dont know why you would expect anymore than that. The only thing I've done in that time is have a parking brake recall and they fixed it for nothing. The car was a '97 Cobra Mustang.

MT-Tdawg
06-16-2005, 03:55 PM
you guys are Killing me here ;D ........ I am more of a pick up guy though ..... And Mustangs ....
Oh before I forget .............Fords Rule ........... Have a nice day ;D

Old ford trucks are tanks, Rustangs are just that. The 1st vehicle i ever owned was a 74 F-100 4x4. ORANGE. Damn tree jumped out in front of me though. In this day and age most new cars are created equal to a point. I really don't like foreign cars though, never really have. I hold a deep deep hatred for Hondas. If anybody wants to be really nice and buy me a 6 month early birthday present I'll take a Blue SRT-4. I'd rep you for sure Ha!

epicSocialism4tw
06-16-2005, 04:00 PM
I hate to burst your bubble, but the parts for all cars are made all over the world for every make. They are only assembled in the factories. If the parts are bad then the problem could come from anywhere.

The trouble that american car makers are having, is paying the employees enough money to send thier kids too school. Not to mention health costs. If we paid them minimum wages think how much better the product could become.

Your Honda was likely made right here in the USA. Assembled by the same people. The cars being better just isn't true. I have driven American cars my whole life. Ford almost exclusively, and have yet to be stuck on the side of the road. Or paying any more in repair bills than anyone else has too. In fact, I have spent $0 in the last 15 or so years. I dont know why you would expect anymore than that. The only thing I've done in that time is have a parking brake recall and they fixed it for nothing. The car was a '97 Cobra Mustang.

While driving the same Mustang Cobra (Black with Black ragtop), I broke the serpentine belt in the 2nd year of ownership in the middle of nowhere. When getting it fixed, I was told that I had to expect routine breakdowns while owning a Mustang. That car also spent time in the shop with transmission problems and electrical problems before it (thank goodness) was totalled in an accident.

They don't hold any resale value because the public as a whole knows that they are unreliable especially over 100,000 miles.

Paladin
06-16-2005, 04:04 PM
The trouble that american car makers are having, is paying the employees enough money to send thier kids too school. Not to mention health costs. If we paid them minimum wages think how much better the product could become.

There's something just plain phucked up about the tone and meaning of that little paragraph. Can you see where? :crazy:

Jeeezus. WFD. :loopy:

crazyhorse
06-16-2005, 04:07 PM
While driving the same Mustang Cobra (Black with Black ragtop), I broke the serpentine belt in the 2nd year of ownership in the middle of nowhere. When getting it fixed, I was told that I had to expect routine breakdowns while owning a Mustang. That car also spent time in the shop with transmission problems and electrical problems before it (thank goodness) was totalled in an accident.

They don't hold any resale value because the public as a whole knows that they are unreliable especially over 100,000 miles.

The point I am trying to make, is that if you trace down who made those parts you would find they are the same people making parts for your Honda.

Just remember, those breakdowns you had, happen in every make of car.

Northman
06-16-2005, 04:07 PM
I owned a Ford once........once.

I'll never own another one even if the thing was given to me.....pure garbage, trash is too elevated a description for the Mustang I had. I paid more in repairs than I did for the car itself.


Depends on the year really. i had a 95 escort for 8 years and never had a problem. i now have a ford focus ZX3 and still have not had a problem. you know, part of the secret to having a good car is maintaining it and changing the oil once in while. Nyah!

crazyhorse
06-16-2005, 04:11 PM
There's something just plain pink puppy bellied up about the tone and meaning of that little paragraph. Can you see where? :crazy:

Jeeezus. WFD. :loopy:

I was being sarcastic.

You just piss down your leg every time I post something, dont you? Take it easy big fella. Nobody's tryin' to sneak one by ya.

epicSocialism4tw
06-16-2005, 04:14 PM
The point I am trying to make, is that if you trace down who made those parts you would find they are the same people making parts for your Honda.

Just remember, those breakdowns you had, happen in every make of car.

Sure, but they don't happen in the first two years of ownership of a brand new $35,000 car.

Part making does not have much to do with it. Engineering does.

Garcia Bronco
06-16-2005, 04:14 PM
Seems as though CNN would have reported that about 15 years ago if it's going on since '90. Must not be too many burning up if it took 'em 15 years to figure it out.

That's all I have owned since before '90. 1st I've heard of it. Is there a recall on the part? Seems like electrical and I believe the switches are made overseas.


Be that as it may...I hope yours burn down your house..haha

epicSocialism4tw
06-16-2005, 04:16 PM
Be that as it may...I hope yours burn down your house..haha
:crazy:

Garcia Bronco
06-16-2005, 04:17 PM
:crazy:

hehe...what...he's a chief fan...I put a curse upon their homes daily.

epicSocialism4tw
06-16-2005, 04:19 PM
hehe...what...he's a chief fan...I put a curse upon their homes daily.
I used that smiley because I didn't think that it was tactful to laugh out loud on that one ;D

Garcia Bronco
06-16-2005, 04:24 PM
In all seriousness...they're pieces of ****..left and right....when a cruise control switch ignites brake fluid through a thin cover and will burn down down your car...that's a poor design and a piece of ****....now folks like horse crazy can walk around re-assuring himself that his piece of **** probably won't burn down his house...he's right....but damn if there ain't a chance...btw...the keys don't have to be in the ignition for this to happen....it can happen at anytime...even while you sleep.

Dr. Broncenstein
06-16-2005, 04:27 PM
This reminds me of 2nd grade...

Ford sucks

No, Chevy sucks

No, Dodge sucks

My dad can beat up your dad

epicSocialism4tw
06-16-2005, 04:29 PM
This reminds me of 2nd grade...

Ford sucks

No, Chevy sucks

No, Dodge sucks

My dad can beat up your dad

No...you suck. Your wimpy dad sucks too. So does your bloodhound.

Garcia Bronco
06-16-2005, 04:30 PM
This reminds me of 2nd grade...

Ford sucks

No, Chevy sucks

No, Dodge sucks

My dad can beat up your dad


I know..right...I just try to pass on some useful information and it becomes a calling for a reproduction of the less filling/tastes great contingent.

Dr. Broncenstein
06-16-2005, 04:31 PM
Come get some ham, you fat lard....

MT-Tdawg
06-16-2005, 04:31 PM
No...you suck. Your wimpy dad sucks too. So does your bloodhound.

LOL

Dr. Broncenstein
06-16-2005, 04:33 PM
Make fun of my bloodhound doggies and I will find you.... cut out your spleen.... crap on it.... puke on it... and make you watch my dogs friggin devour it.... as you bleed out

MT-Tdawg
06-16-2005, 04:36 PM
Make fun of my bloodhound doggies and I will find you.... cut out your spleen.... crap on it.... puke on it... and make you watch my dogs friggin devour it.... as you bleed out

Welcome to the fight of the decade. Fighting out of the red corner, Dr. Bronensteins bloodhound. Fighting out of the blue corner, Mocks cat. Lets get it on!

labronx
06-16-2005, 06:30 PM
Welcome to the fight of the decade. Fighting out of the red corner, Dr. Bronensteins bloodhound. Fighting out of the blue corner, Mocks cat. Lets get it on!
Am I the only one who put in a real life situation here? ???

Billy Clyde Puckett
06-16-2005, 06:44 PM
Everyone has an emotional attachment to their car. There are books writtwn on how inaccrurate subjective car quality surveys are like Consumer Reports, JD Power, etc.

There is one completely objective assessment made by a company called Harbour Consulting. All they do is Quality and manufacturing efficiency measurements for the auto industry. They have access to all dealer and manufacturer repair, quality, rework, reject, etc. files from all manufacturers and rate quality based on those files. They have open access to all manufacturing plants in North America and many overseas, plus access to all franchised dealers (used car indelpendents like Rocky's are not included). They measure both number of problems and seriousness of problems in their quality studies. Every problem repaired by the manufacturer or the franchised dealers is recorded. Since their studies do not include independent service providers, they measure the quality only for the first three years. The reasoning being that most repairs the first three years are covered under warranty and done at dealers.

Unforetunately as part of their arrangement with the automakers, the findings are supposed to be held in strict secrecy and are not available to the public, only to the auto manufacturers. However, occasionally there are leaks posted on the web. If you can track down one of those leaked reports, most will be surprised at the results.

KillerBronco#76
06-16-2005, 06:56 PM
if you guys want a car thatll last a long ass time just get a crown vic"interceptor". Every thing on those bastards is heavy duty i know someone who has 320,000 miles and 18 accidents and it still runs like a champ, ford wasnt messin around when they made the interceptors for the police.

labronx
06-16-2005, 07:05 PM
if you guys want a car thatll last a long ass time just get a crown vic"interceptor". Every thing on those bastards is heavy duty i know someone who has 320,000 miles and 18 accidents and it still runs like a champ, ford wasnt messin around when they made the interceptors for the police.

thats prolly the only ford I would buy, infact I would buy one

Raider Bill
06-16-2005, 07:08 PM
The F-Series has been the best-selling full-size pickup in the United States for 26 years and the nation's best-selling vehicle for 21 years running


http://www.epinions.com/images/newworld/1486/160153-auto-resized200.gif

Raider Bill
06-16-2005, 07:10 PM
Dodge and Chevy pickups suck. Ford builds the best pickup trucks.

Garcia Bronco
06-16-2005, 07:15 PM
Dodge and Chevy pickups suck. Ford builds the best pickup trucks.

The f150 burns down the most according to the report....and I'd give that mother-b**** the pepsi challege with the Titan.

Garcia Bronco
06-16-2005, 07:17 PM
if you guys want a car thatll last a long ass time just get a crown vic"interceptor". Every thing on those bastards is heavy duty i know someone who has 320,000 miles and 18 accidents and it still runs like a champ, ford wasnt messin around when they made the interceptors for the police.
They also identifed this one by name in the report and was as the Grand Mar-what-the-hell-ever-it's called.

Spider
06-16-2005, 07:23 PM
The f150 burns down the most according to the report....and I'd give that mother-b**** the pepsi challege with the Titan.
I would accept that challenge ........... Titian vs any one of my Fords ( I wont use the 71 Flatbed , that would be cheating or my ) ..... But I will take your challenge with my F150 , F250 either one .....

Garcia Bronco
06-16-2005, 07:26 PM
I would accept that challenge ........... Titian vs any one of my Fords ( I wont use the 71 Flatbed , that would be cheating or my ) ..... But I will take your challenge with my F150 , F250 either one .....


You own two of those gas guzzlers? Thet's a good republican.

Spider
06-16-2005, 07:32 PM
You own two of those gas guzzlers? Thet's a good republican.
Ha! I figured you didnt want any part of the Challenge ......... Dont feel bad , there have been a few up here buy them full Sized imports and try to Keep up with the Fords, Dodge, Chevys up here ........

Dr. Broncenstein
06-16-2005, 07:33 PM
I own a diesel-sipping 04 f250 4x4 crew.... gets better milage than my toyota 4x rice cooker... and pulls a 24 foot boat 80 mph uphill like there was nothing behind me. The best thing is firing up the diesel powerstroke at 5 am in my snooty neighborhood... which in turn fires up my hounds....

Garcia Bronco
06-16-2005, 07:37 PM
Ha! I figured you didnt want any part of the Challenge ......... Dont feel bad , there have been a few up here buy them full Sized imports and try to Keep up with the Fords, Dodge, Chevys up here ........

What had you anticipated us doing? Playing chicken on a Casper road? Or did you want to see which one could burn to the ground faster?

Spider
06-16-2005, 07:41 PM
What had you anticipated us doing? Playing chicken on a Casper road? Or did you want to see which one could burn to the ground faster?
Ha! Just work that a pick up is meant for .. you game ?

crazyhorse
06-17-2005, 05:02 AM
I know..right...I just try to pass on some useful information and it becomes a calling for a reproduction of the less filling/tastes great contingent.

I believe you have more than one post on this thread.

All of which are aimed at telling folk how great your Honda is over thier American cars. Then crack on others for standing up for America.

Nice work.

Rep.

crazyhorse
06-17-2005, 05:18 AM
Sure, but they don't happen in the first two years of ownership of a brand new $35,000 car.

Part making does not have much to do with it. Engineering does.

One of my sons friends Nissan 300 Z burned to the ground in front of my house before school one morning. Seems he had a fuel injector leaking. Damn thing only had 130,000 miles on it. I cant believe that every part in every car just doesn't last forever. So there goes that theory.

I mean, the kid gave like 2500 bucks for it. In your opinion, he shopuld have been able to buy an old car and get new car reliability out of it.

BTW, I just sold a 96 Windstar van. It had 180,000 miles on it and ran like a top. I used it for running a route for my business. Yes, I use fords for high mileage work loads and still have not put a dime in them.

I can appreciate your point on the engineering problems. But they all have 'em. You are being overly critical of domestic cars. BTW, the new Mustang was designed by a Japanese engineer fellow. I cannot stress enough, that all cars are built in a concerted effort by foreign and domestic companies.

For the record, reports are saying that it is the switch that is to blame for the fires. Not engineering of the vehicle.

crazyhorse
06-17-2005, 05:23 AM
You own two of those gas guzzlers? Thet's a good republican.

Some folks like a little power with thier truck.

Here is some light reading for you while you contemplate your next response.

http://www.epinions.com/content_77935382148

Billy Clyde Puckett
06-17-2005, 05:41 AM
Sure, but tell me why I can get 250,000 miles out of a Nissan Sentra, but by the time my Mustang hits 150,000 its all she wrote.

Those cars are not engineered in America.

Partially true, but many of the critical systems on the Japanese cars are American in origin. The v6 engine in most Honda's is a GM design built by Honda. The only real difference between the engine in my wife's Odessy and the Chevy company car I drive is the injectors and exhaust system which gives the Honda some extra HP. Most of the braking and steering systms in japanese cars are adapted from American designs as the conditions here are much diferent than in Japan.

Since they have been purchased by Ford, the Volvos and Jags have become 90% Ford designs

Arkie
06-17-2005, 09:36 AM
People will buy a lemon and tend to hate that make for the rest of their lives. Ford and Chevy make the best full-size pickup trucks. Ford has the more popular work truck for the slightly better towing capacity. Nobody else can compete with the Americans making heavy-duty haulers.

Garcia Bronco
06-17-2005, 10:33 AM
The v6 in my Maxima is considered one of the best ever made.....

Spider Horse -

You guys can drive you fords around and be happy about it. They're the greatest thing since they said "What if we sliced the bread before we sold it?"

Garcia Bronco
06-17-2005, 10:34 AM
I believe you have more than one post on this thread.

All of which are aimed at telling folk how great your Honda is over thier American cars. Then crack on others for standing up for America.

Nice work.

Rep.

I never said what I drive.

RaiderH8r
06-17-2005, 11:50 AM
Mercedes...Benz that is. Can't beat German engineering.

crazyhorse
06-17-2005, 01:22 PM
The v6 in my Maxima is considered one of the best ever made.....

Spider Horse -

You guys can drive you fords around and be happy about it. They're the greatest thing since they said "What if we sliced the bread before we sold it?"

http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.eea17ba/0

Beantown Bronco
06-17-2005, 01:35 PM
If you own a Ford you might not want to park it in your garage or near your house.......

You could've stopped the sentence there and it would've worked. :)

Raider Bill
06-17-2005, 03:49 PM
The f150 burns down the most according to the report....and I'd give that mother-b**** the pepsi challege with the Titan.


Because there are more of them on the road since they are one of the most popular vehicles in America. Duh.

I dont really give a damn, my truck doesnt have cruise control.

Sodak
06-17-2005, 07:57 PM
What about Lincoln Navigators?

Spider
06-17-2005, 08:04 PM
Because there are more of them on the road since they are one of the most popular vehicles in America. Duh.

I dont really give a damn, my truck doesnt have cruise control.
;D ....your choice in a football team sucks , but you know a good Pick up ..... Now I got to pos rep you ,.......Damn I hate that

-Slap-
06-17-2005, 08:56 PM
The v6 in my Maxima is considered one of the best ever made.....

I'm a believer.

TomServo
06-17-2005, 09:55 PM
check your car or trucks recall record or tsa's, here http://www.autosafety.org/
or check on other cars you just thought were solid but turns out not to be so.

was talking to my friend at a little league game tonight and he wanted to have the ford vs. chevy truck argument, i didnt bite and told him we might as well argue wether addams family or munsters was better. or now that i think about it, its just as pointless as arguing wether the chiefs or raiders suck more.

TomServo
06-17-2005, 09:59 PM
btw the best V 6 ever.. the buick 231 aka 3.8 born in 1963 as a 225

Billy Clyde Puckett
06-18-2005, 08:04 AM
[QUOTE=Garcia Bronco]The v6 in my Maxima is considered one of the best ever made.....
QUOTE]

I don't know who "considered" is but it does not include me. My 2001 was towed to the shop 17 times in the 13 months I owned it. It was fun to drive when I could get it on the road.

RaiderH8r
06-20-2005, 06:04 AM
[QUOTE=Garcia Bronco]The v6 in my Maxima is considered one of the best ever made.....
QUOTE]

I don't know who "considered" is but it does not include me. My 2001 was towed to the shop 17 times in the 13 months I owned it. It was fun to drive when I could get it on the road.
You might want to give the twin turbo v12 a look some time. It's pretty snappy too.

crazyhorse
06-20-2005, 06:18 AM
btw the best V 6 ever.. the buick 231 aka 3.8 born in 1963 as a 225

I thought it was the slant 6 from chrysler.

Garcia Bronco
06-20-2005, 06:42 AM
What kind of gas mileage did that 63 buick get?

Garcia Bronco
06-20-2005, 06:47 AM
Hey big guy...they didn't replace it? I had afriend who got a bad jetta and either the dealership or the manufacturer replaced it. I can't remember which though

crazyhorse
06-20-2005, 06:50 AM
What kind of gas mileage did that 63 buick get?

At .25 a gallon, who cared?

Garcia Bronco
06-20-2005, 12:00 PM
At .25 a gallon, who cared?



Well choke....if one wanted to compare it to a V6 today that gets 30 miles to the gallon...vs say....16....well...there really isn't much of a comparison is there?

Billy Clyde Puckett
06-20-2005, 12:15 PM
Hey big guy...they didn't replace it? I had afriend who got a bad jetta and either the dealership or the manufacturer replaced it. I can't remember which though

It was leased so it did not qualify under Colorado Lemon Law. After the last time they gave up and let me turn it in without any penalty. It was a fuel system problem. Would be driving down the road and it would suddenly just shut down.

Garcia Bronco
06-20-2005, 12:17 PM
The iggy coils went bad on mine, but had it back in 24 hours.

bendog
06-20-2005, 12:20 PM
I get the feeling with German cars it's a matter of pride to see which vehicle can be engineered to have the widest variety and numbers of uncurable and seemingly impossible mechanical failures.

crazyhorse
06-20-2005, 12:28 PM
Well choke....if one wanted to compare it to a V6 today that gets 30 miles to the gallon...vs say....16....well...there really isn't much of a comparison is there?

Just add fuel injection. Problem solved.

Garcia Bronco
06-20-2005, 12:48 PM
So nobody knows if the 63 buick got good gas mileage?

Billy Clyde Puckett
06-20-2005, 12:56 PM
I had a 62 Pontiac Catalina that was a great car till my coach's son crashed into it with his Mustang while it was parked. Caved in the back of the Cat pretty good, but they had to sweep up the pieces of the Mustang. I was inside my girls friend's house at the time with it parked on the street. Kid was not hurt bad, but coach went crazy because he had been seriously injured in a car crash that also killed his wife.

Gas was .25 - .30 at the time, so I don't remember exactly what mileage it got, but that was pre all of the pollution equipment so I am guessing it was around 15 mpg.

Garcia Bronco
06-20-2005, 01:09 PM
Some folks like a little power with thier truck.

Here is some light reading for you while you contemplate your next response.

http://www.epinions.com/content_77935382148

WTF does this have to do with the price of tea in china?

RaiderH8r
06-20-2005, 01:14 PM
I get the feeling with German cars it's a matter of pride to see which vehicle can be engineered to have the widest variety and numbers of uncurable and seemingly impossible mechanical failures.
Don't know about mechanical failures but this things got so many gizmos and gadgets its a dream. Computer monitored air pressure in the tires, ass coolers, GPS, PMS, and EIEIO.

bendog
06-20-2005, 01:22 PM
Don't know about mechanical failures but this things got so many gizmos and gadgets its a dream. Computer monitored air pressure in the tires, ass coolers, GPS, PMS, and EIEIO.
for the money, give me a lexus. That said, I'd like a toyota tacoma extended cab, if my dog Henry can fit in the jump seat area.

RaiderH8r
06-20-2005, 01:28 PM
for the money, give me a lexus. That said, I'd like a toyota tacoma extended cab, if my dog Henry can fit in the jump seat area.
Yeah, I thought about it but didn't like the seats, more importantly the dealer pissed me off. The Benz guy hooked me up and gave me all that I wanted, special ordered the ride and still checks up on me every month to make sure all is well. I told him I may be back for the McLaren SLR if he's nice. :thumbs: However, the old lady wants to breed and that could be problematic for ownership of that kind of ride...I'm inclined to buy the "kids car" to haul the ruggers around.

bendog
06-20-2005, 01:40 PM
I've never been a big fan of "used" cars, and generally buy something reliable and drive it till it falls apart, or costs me too much to repair it. My mazda may be an exception, cause I changed jobs and stopped travelling, and Mrs Dog inherited her Dad's LeSabre, so we put mile on that pos, and I may dump it with less than 75K. But Mrs Dog bought a 2001 Lexus RX 300, with the factory warrantly. 3 years bumper to bumber on anything not rubber, roadside pickup. Very nice deal, she got.

KillerBronco#76
06-30-2005, 07:26 PM
You guys this just happened to my freinds explorer it was sitting inside his garage and ended up burning his house down at 3 a.m. today. i just found out about it. luckly no one was hurt but the whole house and all their cars are trashed.I realy didnt think much about this thing till today but its crazy how it can just happen like that. Youd think that they would figure out how to make a car that wouldnt lite on fire just randomly. I mean it seams like all the other companies did it why couldnt they just follow suit. I dont know but i realy never had a bad veiw of the ford company till now its just too bad stuff like this has to happen.

baja
06-30-2005, 09:25 PM
I have two ford pickups all in all not bad trucks but my Toyota Landcruser is awesome.I love this ride.

BTW Where is Mock?

Garcia Bronco
06-30-2005, 10:23 PM
That sucks.

Kaylore
06-30-2005, 11:46 PM
I have two ford pickups all in all not bad trucks but my Toyota Landcruser is awesome.I love this ride.

BTW Where is Mock?
Banished for racism or some such kind of post.

DBroncos4life
07-01-2005, 01:06 AM
No matter what you drive if you take care of it the way you should it will last, that said I think I own the only Honda is a POS. It looks nice but man its pissing me off. It doesn't seem to want to run when its hot out. Lucky for me its SUMMER!!!!

Garcia Bronco
07-01-2005, 05:12 AM
No matter what you drive if you take care of it the way you should it will last, that said I think I own the only Honda is a POS. It looks nice but man its pissing me off. It doesn't seem to want to run when its hot out. Lucky for me its SUMMER!!!!


Hey man...can you drive down to the store and pick me up something?

Crushaholic
07-01-2005, 09:33 AM
I've had Fords ever since I was old enough to drive. My first car was a Thunderbird hand-me-down. I've only had one problem with a Ford...and it was my fault. I had an Explorer and the engine blew up and smoke was gushing out of the hood. However, I probably should have tended to that little red light that said "check engine"....OOPS... Ha!

DBroncos4life
07-01-2005, 10:08 AM
Hey man...can you drive down to the store and pick me up something?



Sure what do you need?