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Bronco_Beerslug
06-07-2005, 02:51 PM
I really don't know what to say.

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By MICHAEL KUNZELMAN, Associated Press Writer 35 minutes ago

BOSTON - On April 25, Gregory Despres arrived at the U.S.-Canadian border crossing at Calais, Maine, carrying a homemade sword, a hatchet, a knife, brass knuckles and a chain saw stained with what appeared to be blood. U.S. customs agents confiscated the weapons and fingerprinted Despres. Then they let him into the United States.

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The following day, a gruesome scene was discovered in Despres' hometown of Minto, New Brunswick: The decapitated body of a 74-year-old country musician named Frederick Fulton was found on Fulton's kitchen floor. His head was in a pillowcase under a kitchen table. His common-law wife was discovered stabbed to death in a bedroom.

Despres, 22, immediately became a suspect because of a history of violence between him and his neighbors, and he was arrested April 27 after police in Massachusetts saw him wandering down a highway in a sweat shirt with red and brown stains. He is now in jail in Massachusetts on murder charges, awaiting an extradition hearing next month.

At a time when the United States is tightening its borders, how could a man toting what appeared to be a bloody chain saw be allowed into the country?

Bill Anthony, a spokesman for U.S. Customs and Border Protection, said the Canada-born Despres could not be detained because he is a naturalized U.S. citizen and was not wanted on any criminal charges on the day in question.

Anthony said Despres was questioned for two hours before he was released. During that time, he said, customs agents employed "every conceivable method" to check for warrants or see if Despres had broken any laws in trying to re-enter the country.

"Nobody asked us to detain him," Anthony said. "Being bizarre is not a reason to keep somebody out of this country or lock them up. ... We are governed by laws and regulations, and he did not violate any regulations."

Anthony conceded it "sounds stupid" that a man wielding what appeared to be a bloody chain saw could not be detained. But he added: "Our people don't have a crime lab up there. They can't look at a chain saw and decide if it's blood or rust or red paint."

Sgt. Gary Cameron of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police would not comment on whether it was, in fact, blood on the chain saw.

On the same day Despres crossed the border, he was due in a Canadian court to be sentenced on charges he assaulted and threatened to kill Fulton's son-in-law, Frederick Mowat, last August.

Mowat told police Despres had been bothering his father-in-law for the past month. When Mowat confronted him, Despres allegedly pulled a knife, pointed it at Mowat's chest and said he was "going to get you all."

Police believe the dispute between the neighbors boiled over in the early-morning hours of April 24, when Despres allegedly broke into Fulton's home and stabbed to death the musician and 70-year-old Veronica Decarie.

Fulton's daughter found her father's body two days later. His car was later found in a gravel pit on a highway leading to the U.S. border. Despres hitchhiked to the border crossing.

After the bodies were found on the afternoon of April 26, police set up roadblocks and sent out a bulletin that identified Despres as a "person of interest" in the slayings, according to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.

The bulletin caught the eye of a Quincy police dispatcher because it gave the suspect's Massachusetts driver's license number, missing a character. The dispatcher plugged in numbers and letters until she found a last known address for Despres in Mattapoisett. She alerted police in that town, and an officer quickly spotted Despres.

In state court the next day, Despres told a judge that he is affiliated with
NASA and was on his way to a Marine Corps base in Kansas at the time of his arrest.

After the case was transferred to federal court, Despres' attorney, Michael Andrews, questioned whether his client is mentally competent.

Fulton's friends in Minto, a village of 2,700 people, told the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal that he was a popular musician, a guitarist known as the "Chet Atkins of Minto" and a 2001 inductee in the Minto Country Music Wall of Fame.
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Northman
06-07-2005, 03:52 PM
heh, boy he doesnt look insane. lol

watermock
06-07-2005, 04:09 PM
Anthony conceded it "sounds stupid" that a man wielding what appeared to be a bloody chain saw could not be detained. But he added: "Our people don't have a crime lab up there. They can't look at a chain saw and decide if it's blood or rust or red paint."

I could tell in 10 seconds. As weird as it sounds, Blood, paint and rust each have their own taste. Not to mention that the guy was carrying enough weapons to make Alec blush.

elsid13
06-07-2005, 04:10 PM
I don't know if I should laugh or cry.......

watermock
06-07-2005, 04:20 PM
Paint would probably be tasteless, Rust is bitter, and blood has sugar in it.

That's the most incredibly lame excuse I have every heard of.

The idea you need a crime lab to tell the difference is so ludicrous.

The only thing would be if he was using the saw on vension or something.

He should of been held to determine if it was human blood.

How did they catch murderers in the old days? Good Lord.

Bronco_Beerslug
06-07-2005, 04:29 PM
Paint would probably be tasteless, Rust is bitter, and blood has sugar in it.

That's the most incredibly lame excuse I have every heard of.

The idea you need a crime lab to tell the difference is so ludicrous.

The only thing would be if he was using the saw on vension or something.

He should of been held to determine if it was human blood.

How did they catch murderers in the old days? Good Lord.
I don't know, I just look at the guy and I've got some questions. Then find a bloody chainsaw I've got to detain him. Someone else has to take responsibility and turn him loose on the U.S. I can't do it.

Sodak
06-07-2005, 06:18 PM
Paint would probably be tasteless, Rust is bitter, and blood has sugar in it.

That's the most incredibly lame excuse I have every heard of.

The idea you need a crime lab to tell the difference is so ludicrous.

The only thing would be if he was using the saw on vension or something.

He should of been held to determine if it was human blood.

How did they catch murderers in the old days? Good Lord.

Why would you want to taste something that might be blood. That sounds like a horrible idea to me. I can't even begin to count the diseases you could catch, unless of course, you already have them all... Uhh

I hear ethelyne glycol tastes like sugar, but you won't find me putting it in my gin sour...

Sodak
06-07-2005, 06:24 PM
Oh yeah, that guy looks like a freaking psycho. They should have locked him up just for looking like a psycho... with a freaking chainsaw, and a hatchet, and a homemade sword, oh yeah, and a freaking psycho knife, and brass knuckles. I'm sure he was coming across to do work Americans won't do. Ah, hell, let him in! Freaking psycho...

watermock
06-07-2005, 06:30 PM
You would make an excellent border patrol guard Sodak.

My point is perfectly clear. To have some moron tell me he can't tell the difference between paint, rust and blood is so ludicrous it's amazing.

I don't lick blood off of chainsaws, but I can tell blood from paint and for god sakes, rust.

The whole comment was made to illustrate how ludicrous the comment was. If you can't tell the difference between blood and rust or paint, I feel sorry for you. One glance should tell you the difference just from flesh held in the saw.

So whatever. If you don't believe you can tell the difference between paint, rust and blood, your a moron.

watermock
06-07-2005, 06:32 PM
First, you don't usually paint a chainsaw now do you.

Second, I it's not too difficult to simply spray a chainsaw with WD40 now is it.

Third, the guy is totally busted, but your ragging on me?

Get Bent. I didn't chop their heads off with a chainsaw.

I love it when there is misplaced idiocy.

What part of the fact that this guy sawed off head don't you quite get yet?

Sodak
06-07-2005, 06:34 PM
You would make an excellent border patrol guard Sodak.

My point is perfectly clear. To have some moron tell me he can't tell the difference between paint, rust and blood is so ludicrous it's amazing.

I don't lick blood off of chainsaws, but I can tell blood from paint and for god sakes, rust.

The whole comment was made to illustrate how ludicrous the comment was. If you can't tell the difference between blood and rust or paint, I feel sorry for you. One glance should tell you the difference just from flesh held in the saw.

So whatever. If you don't believe you can tell the difference between paint, rust and blood, your a moron.

I totally agree. What a bunch of idiots. The whole thing is amazing.

I would make good border patrol. A mine field would be my first priority.

watermock
06-07-2005, 06:37 PM
This clown looks so high on murder and meth it's rediculous.

Sorry, but man. Our border can't keep a man with a bloody chainsaw across the line?

Clockwork Orange
06-07-2005, 07:33 PM
http://www.sensesofcinema.com/images/15/texas.jpg

America, here I come!!

Garcia Bronco
06-07-2005, 07:48 PM
Man....that's about insane.......glad they got him and no harm done.

Needa Pass Rush
06-07-2005, 07:51 PM
I really don't know what to say.

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By MICHAEL KUNZELMAN, Associated Press Writer 35 minutes ago

BOSTON - On April 25, Gregory Despres arrived at the U.S.-Canadian border crossing at Calais, Maine, carrying a homemade sword, a hatchet, a knife, brass knuckles and a chain saw stained with what appeared to be blood. U.S. customs agents confiscated the weapons and fingerprinted Despres. Then they let him into the United States.

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Shanahan should give him a second chance! He could be the head-hunter we've been looking for at Free safety! ROFL!

Sodak
06-07-2005, 07:58 PM
Man....that's about insane.......glad they got him and no harm done.

I was wondering about that. Did they catch him before he axed someone else?

Garcia Bronco
06-07-2005, 08:09 PM
Well let us hope they got him....you know...you're damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Breck Bronc
06-07-2005, 10:54 PM
It's not well publicized, but Mock won the 1984 U.S. Taste Challenge, where contestants had to differentiate between Elmer's Glue, watery mayonnaise, and male ejaculate by taste.

Kaylore
06-07-2005, 10:56 PM
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Canadians are so silly. Look at his mohawk.

watermock
06-07-2005, 11:04 PM
It's not well publicized, but Mock won the 1984 U.S. Taste Challenge, where contestants had to differentiate between Elmer's Glue, watery mayonnaise, and male ejaculate by taste.

Not exactly, I won two state debate championships in the most literate state in the USA.

But that isn't well publicized now is it there moron. Elmer is good glue, watery mayo is quite honestly, clueless, and male ejaculate by taste is just plan homosexual.

Want me to beat you down more?

I will go one more while you pissed me off. I won a state debating championship, you probably don't even have a clue about glue properties, and male ejaculate is your problem.

Are you sufficiently beaten down yet you moron?

watermock
06-07-2005, 11:08 PM
I'm not even done with your ass.

I will bust your ass down to dumbass.

I will take every thing you have said and bust it down to idiocy.

You wouldn't know how to make glue if it was poured on your face.

As far as watery mayo, that's just a homosexual reach. Get a clue.

Your reference to Male Ejaclulate is just another example of your homosexuality.

Want another beat down?

Breck Bronc
06-07-2005, 11:19 PM
Want another beat down?Sure, why not?

Atlas
06-07-2005, 11:26 PM
That's pretty funny

Crushaholic
06-08-2005, 09:50 AM
With those eyes, the runaway bride would be a PERFECT woman for him...

Rock Chalk
06-08-2005, 10:23 AM
I don't know, I just look at the guy and I've got some questions. Then find a bloody chainsaw I've got to detain him. Someone else has to take responsibility and turn him loose on the U.S. I can't do it.

Oh yeah you lying little whore? If they detained him without any cause (which is stated clearly in the article) then you would be up in arms about his rights as a naturalized citizen and the government just locking people up for no reason.

You just want to find a reason to bitch. The guy said that there is no crime lab up there and no way to ascertain whether it WAS blood or not. He had broken no laws that anyone was aware of, had no warrants, and had every right to enter this country. What the hell were they supposed to do?

NaptownChief
06-08-2005, 10:35 AM
Bulk him up about 75 lbs and put him at MLB....He might be the second coming of Ray Lewis....in more ways than one.

Atlas
06-08-2005, 10:47 AM
Oh yeah you lying little whore? If they detained him without any cause (which is stated clearly in the article) then you would be up in arms about his rights as a naturalized citizen and the government just locking people up for no reason.

You just want to find a reason to b****. The guy said that there is no crime lab up there and no way to ascertain whether it WAS blood or not. He had broken no laws that anyone was aware of, had no warrants, and had every right to enter this country. What the hell were they supposed to do?

That's a good point BUT they don't have to let a person into this country. If a guy came up to the border from Mexico with blood on a chainsaw I promise you he would have been turned away.

NaptownChief
06-08-2005, 10:50 AM
Oh yeah you lying little whore? If they detained him without any cause (which is stated clearly in the article) then you would be up in arms about his rights as a naturalized citizen and the government just locking people up for no reason.

You just want to find a reason to b****. The guy said that there is no crime lab up there and no way to ascertain whether it WAS blood or not. He had broken no laws that anyone was aware of, had no warrants, and had every right to enter this country. What the hell were they supposed to do?


I can't imagine you being more correct...

Rock Chalk
06-08-2005, 11:29 AM
That's a good point BUT they don't have to let a person into this country. If a guy came up to the border from Mexico with blood on a chainsaw I promise you he would have been turned away.

You are right, they dont have to let ILLEGALS in, but they cannot keep a NATURALIZED CITIZEN (which this guy was) from entering.

Bronco_Beerslug
06-08-2005, 12:50 PM
Oh yeah you lying little whore? If they detained him without any cause (which is stated clearly in the article) then you would be up in arms about his rights as a naturalized citizen and the government just locking people up for no reason.

You just want to find a reason to b****. The guy said that there is no crime lab up there and no way to ascertain whether it WAS blood or not. He had broken no laws that anyone was aware of, had no warrants, and had every right to enter this country. What the hell were they supposed to do?
Drinking again at work are we? Maybe that's a little harsh, you being such a fine example of a human being?

We all know where your patriotism lies when it comes to this country now, don't we.

Atlas
06-08-2005, 12:56 PM
You are right, they dont have to let ILLEGALS in, but they cannot keep a NATURALIZED CITIZEN (which this guy was) from entering.

My bad. He is a Canadian citizen though. So if he is a Candadian citizen we still can't keep him out???