Top 5 worst teams in the NFL

[Atlas]

These are the teams I have come up with.
The REdskins do have a pretty good defense but they have taken hits all year and they could end up higher on the list.

#1 Browns
#2 49ers
#3 Titans
#4 Dolphins
#5 Redskins

[scorpio]

These are the teams I have come up with.
The REdskins do have a pretty good defense but the have taken hits all year and they could end up higher on the list.

#1 Browns
#2 49ers
#3 Titans
#4 Dolphins
#5 Redskins

I think the Dolphins might surprise a few people this season.

Mine are:

#1 Redskins (team chemistry and morale, not to mention reputation, is shot to hell.)
#2 Bears
#3 49ers
#4 Titans
#5 Browns

[TheReverend]

These are the teams I have come up with.
The REdskins do have a pretty good defense but the have taken hits all year and they could end up higher on the list.

#1 Browns
#2 49ers
#3 Titans
#4 Dolphins
#5 Redskins

I suspect the Fins and Browns of being decent this season. Ahem:

#1. Redskins (especially if they start Campbell)
#2. 49ers
#3. Bengals
#4. Saints
#5. Texans

[rbackfactory80]

I think the Dolphins might surprise a few people this season.

Mine are:

#1 Redskins (team chemistry and morale, not to mention reputation, is shot to hell.)
#2 Bears
#3 49ers
#4 Titans
#5 Browns

As long as air McNair is out there the titans will not be a bottom 5 team. I think the rams will fade out even more this year.

[2KBack]

1.Redskins (too much chaos)
2.49ers (Crap coach, Rookie Qb)
3.SeaHawks (No more running game, no more recievers, Ray Rhodes)
4.Chicago (Eternally)
5.Titans (still rebuilding)

I'm actually looking foreward to Cincy and Arizona being competitive this season.

[MajikMan7]

#1. Redskins (wishful thinking)
#2. 49ers
#3. Browns
#4. Packers
#5. Cheifs

[watermock]

With the Redskins in total chaos, I think they are going to struggle big time.

I don't see much about San Fransisco to scare anyone.

The Browns didn't do anything except have a garage sale.

Oakland is going to find out what a cancer Moss is and that street cred doesn't add up to wins. Defense does.

The last one is anyone's guess. Maybe the Packers. They are thin at several spots.

Teams on the rise:

Minnesota
Detroit
Miami
Arizona
Dallas

[Arkie]

1. Tennessee Titans
2. San Francisco 49ers
3. Chicago Bears
4. Seattle Seahawks
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers

We will get the 9th pick because Washington will be the 9th worst team.

[watermock]

How is Washington going to win any games? Philly is still decent, and Dallas is going to be improved.

Arrington and Taylor are either injured, pissed or in jail.

If Portis goes down, and he's being worked too hard, they might win 3 games.

[JPEZ]

1. Skins
2. 49ers
3. Bears
4. Browns
5. Seahawks

[Arkie]

How is Washington going to win any games? Philly is still decent, and Dallas is going to be improved.

Arrington and Taylor are either injured, pissed or in jail.

If Portis goes down, and he's being worked too hard, they might win 3 games.

They start winning in week 1 vs. Chicago.

[Priest Dante]

Arizona
Chicago
Detroit
Miami
San Francisco

Oakland

[watermock]

They start winning in week 1 vs. Chicago.

Didn't we lose at home to Chicago a couple years ago? I wouldn't chalk that up as a win whatsoever.

[bengalsown]

I suspect the Fins and Browns of being decent this season. Ahem:

#1. Redskins (especially if they start Campbell)
#2. 49ers
#3. Bengals
#4. Saints
#5. Texans

Even after we embarassed you on Monday Night Football, you still haven't figured out that the Bengals are a pretty good team? We will win 10 games at least this season.

[Uncle Bill]

People seem to be pretty down on the Bears in this thread. They actually have one of the most talented young defenses in the league (Tillman, Azumah, Urlacher, Harris, et al), and will have a pretty strong running game. Grossman is a big question mark, but their defense will keep them competitive. I haven't looked at their schedule lately, but I would be surprised if they didn't wind-up playing .500 ball.

[Crushisback]

San Fran
Chicago
Saints
Redskins (Rookie QB and they lost the true leader to their Defense not CB either)
Raiders (locker room disaster)

[-Slap-]

Chicago is going to have a top five defense this season. I think they have as good chance of winning that division as anyone else.

Its just about impossible to name a bottom five because there's such a disparity between the conferences. I think every team in the NFC besides Philly, Carolina and maybe Atlanta, would struggle to make the playoffs in the AFC.

San Francisco certainly seems like the bottom of the barrel, though. They're weak everywhere and they just pissed away the top pick on the second coming of Marc Wilson.

[TheReverend]

Why can't San Diego talk Ryan Leaf out of retirement?

[Play2win]

Why can't San Diego talk Ryan Leaf out of retirement?
What Retirement?!?

To retire, that means you would've had to work.

Ryan Leaf, as an NFL QB, NEVER WORKED!!!

[Clockwork Orange]

What Retirement?!?

To retire, that means you would've had to work.

Ryan Leaf, as an NFL QB, NEVER WORKED!!!

Don't talk to him, allright?! Knock it off!!

[Atwater27]

1. Niners(their team is in shambles plus its going to take time to 'breakin' a rookie QB, plus their oline is the worst since the Texans expansion oline)
2. Redskins(Dan Synder is an idiot. You cant put all stars on a team and expect to win. It doesnt work that way. THIS ISNT BASEBALL!)
3. Browns(This team is a mess, They have 3 running backs but 1 is a 1st round bust(at this point), one is always hurt, and the other has his heart a mile above sea level (:D). They gave all their dline away and will be led by a MLB looking to prove himself due to a contract year. Their secondary is just dredful and they gave away their only decent corner away.)
4. Chicago(Grossman is coming off of an injury and i expect him to stuggle. Yet they will have a top 15 team and will begin to turn it around in '06 but not this year.)
5. Giants(their going to find out Eli Manning is not the QB they thought they were getting when they traded the real QB away to SD)

[NaptownChief]

#1. Redskins (wishful thinking)
#2. 49ers
#3. Browns
#4. Packers
#5. Cheifs



The Redskins isn't the only wishful thinking on your list...Bears deserve to be on the list and the Donks probably deserve honorable mention.

[NaptownChief]

They're weak everywhere and they just pissed away the top pick on the second coming of Marc Wilson.



You really don't think much of that kid do ya....Personally I like his chances, he reminds me of Jake Plummer with a brain.

[Clockwork Orange]

The Redskins isn't the only wishful thinking on your list...Bears deserve to be on the list and the Donks probably deserve honorable mention.

Right behind the 7-9 Chefs.

[NaptownChief]

Right behind the 7-9 Chefs.


And 2 of those 7 wins will probably be Donkey wins...

[Clockwork Orange]

And 2 of those 7 wins will probably be Donkey wins...

Yeah, just like last year the Chefs were gonna dominate the Broncos in week one and establish their dominance right off the bat. Gunther would fix everything and the division title (Chef fan's equivalent of the Lombardi Trophy) was in the bag.

Then a funny thing happened.......

[ClevelandBronco2]

#1 49ers (tie)
#1 Browns (tie)
#1 Redskins (tie)
#1 Titans (tie)
#1 Dolphins (tie)

[DivineLegion]

Ill give you Three usualy teams that take the bottom spot that should break .500 this season...Cincy, Detroit (if they fix thier Qb problems), and the Cardinals...

[Hogan11]

How anyone can list the Saints as one of the league's worst is beyond me......

49ers, Browns, Titans and Giants are your bottom feeders without question

[wabbit]

Its almost harder to figure out who will tank it than it is to make a favorites list.

Everyone in the AFC West looks...interesting...grant you, KC & Oakland defenses aren't the best, but you just don't know. (and shut up 'Bob...you had your run with "Gunther's gonna get you" stuff last year)

I think everyone...in Denver anyway...is pretty happy with Norv as Oakland coach & Collins at QB. Between the two of them they could figure entirely unique new ways to screw themselves.

[Priest Dante]

The Redskins isn't the only wishful thinking on your list...Bears deserve to be on the list and the Donks probably deserve honorable mention.
Ah you took the bait. Nobody could actually think the team with the number 1 Offense 3 years running could be in the bottom 5. True ,our record sucked last season but we were in all of those games(besides the one against The Chargers where The Chiefs didn't even show), but we had very little to fix to win those games. With Priest healthy and our new defensive players, the Chiefs should make the playoffs with ease. Who knows what will happen then( please don't choke!).

[yavoon]

The Redskins isn't the only wishful thinking on your list...Bears deserve to be on the list and the Donks probably deserve honorable mention.

wow never knew everyone hated the bears so much. they had a staggeringly good defense last year. and before grossman went down thomas jones was maybe the most productive back in the league(like the first fourish weeks).

[yavoon]

in all likelihood there will be hardluck stories in the bottom 5 and u can't just predict who will get decimated by injury or some other such thing.

[Atlas]

I think the Bears, Cardinals will both suprise. I think both of them can win their division.

[Odysseus]

How anyone can list the Saints as one of the league's worst is beyond me......

49ers, Browns, Titans and Giants are your bottom feeders without question

You are right about your bottom feeders.

Saints found a way to lose for 20 consecutive seasons. If they won every game they played for 10 years they would not even sniff .500. When Ricky Williams bagged on this town and how satisfied they were with NOT winning they were insulted. They should have been anytime Ricky "smoke a dope" Williams has anything to say. This team always finds a way to never come close to it's potential. It's a Saints tradition. The Cardinals, Lions, and even the Bears have a chance of a better season than these guys. This is just flat out a loser team.

[Odysseus]

Redskins - home of paycheck players and the 2005 season that couldn't be. Paycheck Portis is going to start requesting more breaks on the bench. What difference does it make our team isn't winning? The WR are crumbly. Whose under center? They keep catching bad press. They will put up a good showing but that is all it will be.

Titans - Rebuilding from Titan parts and pieces

Browns - A lot of player unrest, bad press, bad KW2, new coach...late season ralley

Seahawks - Constantly making dumb mistakes - They have the potential to be good but as usual they will frustrate.

9ers - Losing in suits is better?

Sleepers:
Steelers: Everyone knows they are good. Is Big Ben ready?
Jaguars: A lot of energy here but can they stay focused?
Bengals: They are the rise but are they ready?
Cardinals: Defense is the key but can the move the ball?

Craptown Chef is right. The Broncos, as well as all the AFCW teams could turn into stinkers. I don't think the records are that bad only the monumental lapse in potential for all these teams. 8-8 for any of them is a losing season.

Broncos - Only go as far as Plummer. Can the defense and special teams dictate?
Chefs - Defense will begin to gel right when the offense starts to fade. Can they gel?
Faders - Boom or bust team in the making. One dimensional on paper. Can they fill out?
Sparklers - They've never done anything twice in a row. Can they bring the heat?

All of these teams are one or two players/plays away from 8-8 seasons.

Welcome to parity football. How can you know the worst team records?

[TheNextStep]

San Francisco certainly seems like the bottom of the barrel, though. They're weak everywhere and they just pissed away the top pick on the second coming of Marc Wilson.

Damn you to hell for even mentioning the name! To hell, I say!

[TheNextStep]

I think everyone...in Denver anyway...is pretty happy with Norv as Oakland coach & Collins at QB. Between the two of them they could figure entirely unique new ways to screw themselves.

Or they could just keep throwing at Champ Bailey.... ;)

[LifersRaiders]

1. Denver
2. KC
3. San Diego
4. Denver
5. KC

[Priest Dante]

1. Denver
2. KC
3. San Diego
4. Denver
5. KC
Coming from a Raiders fan rofl

[Hogan11]

You are right about your bottom feeders.

Saints found a way to lose for 20 consecutive seasons. If they won every game they played for 10 years they would not even sniff .500. When Ricky Williams bagged on this town and how satisfied they were with NOT winning they were insulted. They should have been anytime Ricky "smoke a dope" Williams has anything to say. This team always finds a way to never come close to it's potential. It's a Saints tradition. The Cardinals, Lions, and even the Bears have a chance of a better season than these guys. This is just flat out a loser team.


You're talking historically (and I can see you point as thus) but I believe Atlas was talking about the upcoming season only....if that's the case, there's no way the Saints qualify as one of the leagues worst teams.

[DBroncos4life]

Coming from a Raiders fan rofl



Yeah 9 wins in two years puts the "fear" right back into other teams. Welcome to the blackhole!

[Tom A Hawk]

Yeah, just like last year the Chefs were gonna dominate the Broncos in week one and establish their dominance right off the bat. Gunther would fix everything and the division title (Chef fan's equivalent of the Lombardi Trophy) was in the bag.

Then a funny thing happened.......

yup, you got the worse beating of your teams life 45-17

[Hercules Rockefeller]

yup, you got the worse beating of your teams life 45-17

Chiefs Super Bowl: Beating Denver at home

[dumpy]

yup, you got the worse beating of your teams life 45-17

Come on man. We got our asses whooped 55-10 in the SB.

[Tom A Hawk]

Come on man. We got our asses whooped 55-10 in the SB.

my bad......forgot about that one....at least your team was there.

[fontaine]

I really hope the deadskins implode and they tank it in. I've always harbored an unatural hatred for the skins (except for Darrell Green, met him once, very nice guy) but this season I'll actually have a reason to root against them.

They'll be in the bottem five allright. I can't see how they get going on offense. They'll have to feed the rock to Portis 300 times and hope he holds up just to finish up on par with last season.

[Rock Chalk]

Even after we embarassed you on Monday Night Football, you still haven't figured out that the Bengals are a pretty good team? We will win 10 games at least this season.
Congratulations. You won a game on MNF. Big ****ing deal. How many times in the last 10 years have you been to the playoffs? Oh yeah, tweedle dick. Your team sucks until they can actually get to the playoffs.

[Odysseus]

You're talking historically (and I can see you point as thus) but I believe Atlas was talking about the upcoming season only....if that's the case, there's no way the Saints qualify as one of the leagues worst teams.

I've watched the Saints for years. They constantly underplay their potential. The Broncos will take busted up and used parts and still get into the playoffs.

The Saints suck. They always end up around the middle of the pack when they have the talent to actually be more. :pfbbt:

How can anyone know which teams are going to end up in last place record wise? I want to pull this thread up next off season and see whose got it right. Posters did not call the draft right, off season pick-ups right, players dropped right and have not substantially understood the direction of the team and it's June. :captain:

I'm just having fun with this dude. I appreciate your keeping focused. I'm like you. I'm looking forward to real football. :strong:

[NaptownChief]

I think any team in the NFC has a solid chance to being on this list come year end. With so much parity in the NFL the line between 12-4 and 4-12 is rather small...The line in the NFC is even smaller due to the fact from top to bottom the division really sucked last year and could easily carry that over to this year. So much so I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the Cards turned out to be the best in the NFC and wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they ended up the worst.

Only predictions I have from the NFC:

Roddy White will be considered the next 1st round WR bust(Mexico makes all WR's look that way).

Jimmy Johnson will scrap together a good defense no matter what players he has

The Saints will win 2 or 3 games less than they should as long as Haslett is the coach and Brooks is the QB

Everything else is up in the air.

[Kaylore]

1. Denver
2. KC
3. San Diego
4. Denver
5. KC
Wow that's Ironic.

Seriously though, None of the teams in AFC West are horrible teams.

[TheNextStep]

Wow that's Ironic.

Seriously though, None of the teams in AFC West are horrible teams.

Actually, I think every team in the AFC West has as much potential to be a really bad team as they do to be a really good team.

With Kansas City and Oakland, the reason for doubt is obvious and has been talked to death: Do they have defenses capable of stopping anybody? With Denver, again, the reason for doubt has been talked to death: Does importing a Cleveland Brown defensive line responsible (even moreso than cocaine) for making Jamal Lewis a household name shore up their defense or does it blow up in their faces? For San Diego, the reason for doubt is that it is extremely hard to ignore the fact that their record last year, while impressive on the surface, featured exactly ZERO wins against playoff teams.

Yeah... each team has the potential to be really good... but each team has just as much potential to really suck, my own team included.

[2KBack]

Actually, I think every team in the AFC West has as much potential to be a really bad team as they do to be a really good team.

With Kansas City and Oakland, the reason for doubt is obvious and has been talked to death: Do they have defenses capable of stopping anybody? With Denver, again, the reason for doubt has been talked to death: Does importing a Cleveland Brown defensive line responsible (even moreso than cocaine) for making Jamal Lewis a household name shore up their defense or does it blow up in their faces? For San Diego, the reason for doubt is that it is extremely hard to ignore the fact that their record last year, while impressive on the surface, featured exactly ZERO wins against playoff teams.

Yeah... each team has the potential to be really good... but each team has just as much potential to really suck, my own team included.

Honestly you've probably summed up most of the league at this point. I'm still not sure how I feel about this whole parity thing.

[DBroncos4life]

SD beat Denver so they did beat one playoff team.

[SpringStein]

Does importing a Cleveland Brown defensive line responsible (even moreso than cocaine) for making Jamal Lewis a household name shore up their defense or does it blow up in their faces?

Yeah... each team has the potential to be really good... but each team has just as much potential to really suck, my own team included.

TNS - I've always known you to be balanced - well, as much as a Raider's fan can be balanced. ;)

However, let's look at facts:

Last year's most often started DL:

Reggie Hayward, Ellis Johnson, Mario Fatefehi and Marco Coleman

This year's projected lineup:

Trevor Pryce (better than Hayward)
Gerrard Warren (better than Johnson)
Fatefehi - one more year of experience
Courtney Brown ( better than Coleman) if Brown can't go, then Ekuban. Coleman would be 3rd option.

Now if you want to make a case for our DB's to be questionable, that's fine. But I just don't get this overhyped hysteria about importing the Brown's line decimating our D.

[AlienBronco]

1. 49ers
2. Redskins
3. Bears
4. Buccaneers
5. Titans

[AlienBronco]

You could make a case that the 5 worst teams in the NFL reside in the NFC

[Atlas]

You could make a case that the 5 worst teams in the NFL reside in the NFC

Yes you can

[SpringStein]

You could make a case that the 5 worst teams in the NFL reside in the NFC

I would have a difficult time leaving the Browns off that list - second only to the 9ers.

[Atlas]

The Browns are # 1. They are a mess. A total rebuilding job.

[AlienBronco]

49ers are 0-4 against AFC teams
Browns are 1-3 against NFC teams

[TheNextStep]

TNS - I've always known you to be balanced - well, as much as a Raider's fan can be balanced. ;)

However, let's look at facts:

Last year's most often started DL:

Reggie Hayward, Ellis Johnson, Mario Fatefehi and Marco Coleman

This year's projected lineup:

Trevor Pryce (better than Hayward)
Gerrard Warren (better than Johnson)
Fatefehi - one more year of experience
Courtney Brown ( better than Coleman) if Brown can't go, then Ekuban. Coleman would be 3rd option.

Now if you want to make a case for our DB's to be questionable, that's fine. But I just don't get this overhyped hysteria about importing the Brown's line decimating our D.
Let's look at the facts, Spring:

Last year, Cleveland finished dead last against the run in the NFL. Yes, worse than the Chiefs. They gave up 2,314 rushing yards (worst in the league), 144.6 rushing yards per game (worst in the league), 22 rushing touchdowns (tied with SF for worst in the league), and gave up 141 rushing first downs (by FAR the worst in the league).

Meanwhile, Denver - with that allegedly inferior defensive line - finished 4th in the league against the run. They gave up just 1,512 rushing yards, 94.5 rushing yards per game, 16 rushing touchdowns, and 83 rushing first downs. All of those are MARKEDLY better than what Cleveland did.

Now, let's look at another fact: Of the Bronco front 7 that set those marks against the run last year, how many are returning as starters? Answer: 2, Al Wilson and DJ Williams... and, technically, only 1, considering that DJ Williams is moving positions.

I'm not saying that the Broncos defense WILL suck... but I am saying that it is FAR from unreasonable to have doubts about whether the Broncos will be a contender... just as it is not unreasonable to have the same doubts about every other team in the AFC West.

[Tha rock]

#1 S.F
#2 Giants
#3 miami
#4 Titans
#5 Browns
#6 bengals
#7 K.C
#8 Chicago
These are the worst teams of this season coming up.

[SpringStein]

Let's look at the facts, Spring:

Last year, Cleveland finished dead last against the run in the NFL. Yes, worse than the Chiefs. They gave up 2,314 rushing yards (worst in the league), 144.6 rushing yards per game (worst in the league), 22 rushing touchdowns (tied with SF for worst in the league), and gave up 141 rushing first downs (by FAR the worst in the league).

Meanwhile, Denver - with that allegedly inferior defensive line - finished 4th in the league against the run. They gave up just 1,512 rushing yards, 94.5 rushing yards per game, 16 rushing touchdowns, and 83 rushing first downs. All of those are MARKEDLY better than what Cleveland did.

So if Brown and Warren start, do they represent all 11 players on last year's Brown's D? And Brown started only a couple of games, btw.

Now, let's look at another fact: Of the Bronco front 7 that set those marks against the run last year, how many are returning as starters? Answer: 2, Al Wilson and DJ Williams... and, technically, only 1, considering that DJ Williams is moving positions.

I made my argument about the players projected to start this year are more talented that those that started last year. Do you disagree with any of those? As far as our LB's, are you saying that for your Raiders you would rather have Spragen than Gold? I'll take Gold, thank you very much. ;)

I'm not saying that the Broncos defense WILL suck... but I am saying that it is FAR from unreasonable to have doubts about whether the Broncos will be a contender... just as it is not unreasonable to have the same doubts about every other team in the AFC West.

And I have my doubts as well - as I think either of us could point out flaws about every NFL team. As I said, my doubts are more fixated on our DB's than they are on our line for this year.

[TheNextStep]

I was waiting for you to freakin' respond, you slowpoke sumb*tch!

I've got to clean up a little before I pick my son up from pre-school. I'm going to argue with you later tonight or maybe tomorrow (depending on if the wife wants to watch a movie tonight or not). Yes, I still disagree with what you've stated. :)

[SpringStein]

I was waiting for you to freakin' respond, you slowpoke sumb*tch!

I've got to clean up a little before I pick my son up from pre-school. I'm going to argue with you later tonight or maybe tomorrow (depending on if the wife wants to watch a movie tonight or not). Yes, I still disagree with what you've stated. :)


Shocking! I have a feeling we'll ending up agreeing to disagree as I doubt I change your mind and I know you won't change mine. :wave:

[SpringStein]

I've got to clean up a little before I pick my son up from pre-school.

Yea, I need to go get my grandson up from preschool as well!

[TheNextStep]

Shocking! I have a feeling we'll ending up agreeing to disagree as I doubt I change your mind and I know you won't change mine. :wave:

That's fine... but you know I'm going to make my argument anyway! Knowitall

[BlitzingDog]

SpringStein is right. ;)

[Odysseus]

Broncos - Only go as far as Plummer. Can the defense and special teams dictate?
Chefs - Defense will begin to gel right when the offense starts to fade. Can they gel?
Faders - Boom or bust team in the making. One dimensional on paper. Can they fill out?
Sparklers - They've never done anything twice in a row. Can they bring the heat?

All of these teams are one or two players/plays away from 8-8 seasons.

Welcome to parity football. How can you know the worst team records?

Nobody that I have seen this off season has predicted anything right and yet despite that everybdoy still wants to make another off season prediction.

Everyone thinks the Moss pickup gives the Raiders an unnatural advantage. Nobody thinks them flipping to their strong suit on defense is any big deal. Everybody knows the Fade Fades but nobody has any confidence in their ability to put up consistent numbers all year.

Nobody is certain about the Browncos. Broncos fans are worried whether Jake starts or Jake doesn't start. Everybody is positive the Broncos are getting into the playoffs but nobody is happy with that because they should win the Superbowl every year.

Chiefs don't see anything wrong with their team no matter what you point out to them. Everybody there thinks the Chiefs are unstoppable because three years ago their offense was pretty darn good and because they now have some defensive players suddenly they have a defensive team.

Chargers think everyone in the AFCW is underestimating them and that nobody is giving them their respect because for the first time ever they are going to surprise everybody with something that nobody has ever seen.

This is the season of good and evil. What you see is rarely what you get.

:undecided

I doubt everybody will like this post because nobody likes a post without numbers in it.