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DivineLegion
06-06-2005, 10:10 AM
Playbook by the numbers: Minicamp update


From hardwood to gridiron
Are you a recent grad with little-to-no college football experience that dreads a boring 9-5 job, yet longs for a career in sports? Well, maybe the NFL is the place for you. However, it's looked upon favorably if you have a background in college basketball, are about 6-foot-5 and possess great hands and quick feet.

In a league where the ebb and flow of trends is constant, the latest fad appears to be converting college basketball players into NFL players. With an infusion of foreign talent flooding the NBA market, many former hoopsters are finding a demand for their rare combination of size and athletic ability. Duke's Reggie Love failed to make the Packers roster as a receiver in 2004, returned to Duke to finish his basketball career, and is now trying to make Dallas' squad as a linebacker. Former power forwards Wesley Duke of Mercer and Chevon Troutman of Pitt both played high school football, but have zero college football experience. Regardless, the Broncos and Redskins invited both to minicamp in hopes their basketball skill set would transfer onto the gridiron.

The impetus behind the conversion craze is the recent success of Antonio Gates. In 2003, the Chargers signed the former Kent State hoops standout, who last played football at Detroit's Central High School, as a free agent. In his first year, Gates started 11 games and posted 24 receptions and two touchdowns. San Diego's experiment truly paid off last season when Gates led the team with 81 catches, 964 yards and 17 TDs en route to his first Pro Bowl selection.

The path from the hardwood to the football field was paved years ago by Tony Gonzalez. The Chiefs' No. 1 pick in 1997 excelled at Cal as a tight end and as a power forward, leading the Golden Bears to the Sweet 16 of the NCAA Tournament. Aside from a failed tryout with the Miami Heat, Gonzalez has stuck with football, becoming Kansas City's all-time leading receiver and establishing himself as a perennial Pro Bowl selection.

Recent College Hoops to NFL Experiments
Player Position Team Height School
Wesley Duke TE Broncos 6-5 Mercer
Zach Hilton TE Saints 6-8 North Carolina
Reggie Love LB Cowboys 6-4 Duke
Chevon Troutman* TE Redskins 6-6 Pittsburgh
* -- No longer on the team




Offseason pillage
Randy Moss is the NFL's version of Puck, the colorful character from MTV's Real World: San Francisco. To outsiders, his antics and the problems he caused made for great TV. For those who were stuck dealing with him on a daily basis, the drama got old very quick. This past offseason, the Vikings decided to make their locker room less turbulent by shipping their talented, yet troublesome, receiver to Oakland.

While dealing away the NFL's most dangerous receiving threat might seem like a recipe for a 2005 disaster, the Vikings seem to have played their hand well. Minnesota has finished in the top five in total offense in four of the last five seasons, but has continually failed to address the needs of a porous defense that has ranked in the bottom 10 each of the last five seasons. With cap space freed up by trading Moss, the Vikings were able to sign 317-pound defensive tackle Pat Williams and solidified their linebacker corps through trades by adding Sam Cowart in the middle and Napoleon Harris on the outside. Minnesota should also improve its 29th-ranked pass defense with the additions of shutdown corner Fred Smoot and veteran safety Darren Sharper.

Offensively, the Vikings used the No. 7 overall pick they received from Oakland to draft WR Troy Williamson, who's speed and ability to stretch the field vertically should ease the loss of Moss. Minnesota's bold decision to unload huge amounts of money devoted to one superstar in exchange for the ability to finally address multiple position needs may finally propel the Vikings to the top of the NFC.

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/8529517

scorpio
06-06-2005, 10:17 AM
No, he's not. Antonio Gates isn't even THE Antonio Gates yet. He had one good season on a hot team.

DivineLegion
06-06-2005, 10:20 AM
Another former college basketball player turned Pro-football player would be Julius Peppers...

DBroncos4life
06-06-2005, 10:31 AM
No, he's not. Antonio Gates isn't even THE Antonio Gates yet. He had one good season on a hot team.



Maybe you should pay more attention then. He came on STRONG towards then end of his first year, thats how most of people knew he would be good this year.

Tredici
06-06-2005, 10:53 AM
In answer to the thread question.

Yes. Please. Pretty Please. Pretty Please with Sugar on it. With a caveat. Let him be even BETTER.

labronx
06-06-2005, 11:00 AM
IS MATT DOMINGUEZ the NEXT Tony Gonzales?

Smilin Assassin
06-06-2005, 12:04 PM
Another former college basketball player turned Pro-football player would be Julius Peppers...


True, Julius played B-ball for the Tarheels, but he also led the football team with 15 sacks his senior yr and was simply a beast on D.

He was drafted because he could get to the QB.

kappys
06-06-2005, 12:10 PM
If I recall correctly Marcus Pollard was another basketball player turned into TE. He's a good example of a guy starting out as a pass catching TE, and then learning the blocking skills to make him a good overall player. He's started to slow down a bit in his NFL dotage, but I still think he is a quality player.

Antonio Gates is my favorite TE in the league now, but only because he bears the Kent State routes. "KENT STATE ELITE EIGHT" I also don't think last season was simply a fluke. It was absolutely one of the most dominating seasons a TE has ever had. He may not be able to repeat it, but only because of the respect he is going to get from opposing defenses.

scorpio
06-06-2005, 12:21 PM
Maybe you should pay more attention then. He came on STRONG towards then end of his first year, thats how most of people knew he would be good this year.

Okay man, I'll make sure my opinion agrees with yours before I post next time.

_i_O_i_

Atlas
06-06-2005, 12:34 PM
We can hope. It'll be 3 years before he even makes it to the regular season field.

DBroncos4life
06-06-2005, 12:38 PM
Okay man, I'll make sure my opinion agrees with yours before I post next time.

_i_O_i_


Or you could know what you are talking about first 4321~

scorpio
06-06-2005, 12:46 PM
Or you could know what you are talking about first 4321~

I know exactly what I'm talking about, and I'm not ready to hop on Gates' dick after one good season. Looks like you've got it covered anyway. :-X

labronx
06-06-2005, 12:51 PM
I know exactly what I'm talking about, and I'm not ready to hop on Gates' dick after one good season. Looks like you've got it covered anyway. :-X
then you would know that it's 1 1/3 good years possibly 1 2/3 ;D

LOL

scorpio
06-06-2005, 12:54 PM
then you would know that it's 1 1/3 good years possibly 1 2/3 ;D

LOL


I must have missed the part in 5th grade math where 1 1/3 = 2 ?

Must be nice to have it so fresh in your mind. When is the bake sale for the class field trip to the zoo?

Beantown Bronco
06-06-2005, 01:01 PM
Maybe you should pay more attention then. He came on STRONG towards then end of his first year, thats how most of people knew he would be good this year.

In Scorpio's defense, I wouldn't say that he came on very strong at the end of his rookie season. He had zero TDs in December and only had one game with more than 60 yards receiving all season long.

Gates surprised everyone with his breakout year last year. Anyone who says they weren't surprised is lying.

labronx
06-06-2005, 01:28 PM
I must have missed the part in 5th grade math where 1 1/3 = 2 ?

Must be nice to have it so fresh in your mind. When is the bake sale for the class field trip to the zoo?

just givin' ya a hard time

by the way my daughters trip to the zoo was last week, glad you asked :giggle:

labronx
06-06-2005, 01:29 PM
In Scorpio's defense, I wouldn't say that he came on very strong at the end of his rookie season. He had zero TDs in December and only had one game with more than 60 yards receiving all season long.

Gates surprised everyone with his breakout year last year. Anyone who says they weren't surprised is lying.

I guess im a liar too along with D4L.

Seriously, allot of people new about him going into last year, its not a bad thing if you didn't.

Tredici
06-06-2005, 01:34 PM
And now...

Back to Wesley Duke.

BTW This thread is worthless without pictures.

watermock
06-06-2005, 01:52 PM
BTW This thread is worthless without pictures.
Today 03:29 PM


http://66.49.247.155/BB/image.php?u=2889&dateline=1118059806

I'm still capable of drooling.

Alot of Chiefs say that BB players make the best TE's.

We have the Putz for better or worse for now.