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Atlas
06-04-2005, 12:44 AM
Alexander left wanting
Broncos defender learns from errors

By Jeff Legwold, Rocky Mountain News
June 4, 2005

When most of the football world last saw Roc Alexander, he was slumped in a chair inside the RCA Dome, blood on his left knee where a patch of skin used to be, bruised both in body and spirit.

For the better part of a playoff afternoon this past January, he found himself in the front row, taking his lumps in the league's classroom of experience.

"Oh, yeah, I remember sitting in that chair," Alexander said. "Anytime you get beat like that, I took it all upon me. That's what you've got to do, take it upon yourself. I'm not going to say I was a rookie or that's the position I play or anything like that. That's what I feel I have to do, take it upon myself to make me better and stronger.

"You can't hide. I'm not gonna hide."

Alexander was a Broncos rookie cornerback last year. He was the one tossed into the deep end in Denver's 49-24 playoff loss to the Colts, a game in which Indianapolis quarterback Peyton Manning threw for 457 yards and four touchdowns.

In the Broncos' defensive plan, Denver's coaches had tried to divvy up their defensive backs on the Colts' three 1,000-yard receivers. Champ Bailey ended up on Marvin Harrison much of the time, Kelly Herndon was on Brandon Stokley, and that left Alexander on Reggie Wayne for most of the game.

Wayne finished with 10 receptions for 221 yards - it was the third-best postseason total for a receiver in history - and Alexander was penalized three times in the game, twice for pass interference and once for holding.

"I watched the Indy game over and over," Alexander said. "Just watched it at home. You have to watch yourself to see what you can do better the next time. How else are you going to learn what you did wrong?

"I had to see my mistakes. I'm still living, you know. But I know I'm better than that. Everybody's good in this league and (Reggie Wayne) is really good, but I know I'm better than that."

So that is how Alexander has approached this off-season, wanting - on a team that used three of its six draft picks on cornerbacks in April - to show he is better than that.

Wanting to play, wanting to contribute. Wanting, as he puts it, to "go out there every day and compete, do my job and keep fighting every day."

Bailey was asked this week, as the Broncos continue their June mini-camp, how Alexander was coming along.

"Good," Bailey said. "Just technique, he's young, he's still learning, too. He's probably the fastest guy on the team. That boy can run. . . . He's still raw, but he's good, he's going to get so much better."

Alexander was one of the Broncos' undrafted rookies last season, a player who caught coach Mike Shanahan's eye in training camp. Shanahan said for much of last season that he liked Alexander's competitiveness, that he had "speed and toughness."

The former University of Washington cornerback was one of the fastest players at the 2004 scouting combine, with a 4.31-second 40-yard dash. He almost certainly would have been drafted had it not been for an extensive injury history as well as a lawsuit against him.

But he missed no games because of injuries this past season, playing all 17 games for the Broncos and starting one - Christmas night against the Tennessee Titans.

"It was amazing; for me just to stay healthy, the whole year was unbelievable," Alexander said.

And in a year when the Broncos lost safety Kenoy Kennedy and cornerback Kelly Herndon in free agency, Alexander is in a mix of eight cornerbacks on the team's current roster who have less than two seasons of experience and are all looking for playing time.

There also is the matter of the Broncos planning for the future as well. Lenny Walls, who played in only seven games this past season and will enter training camp as the starter at the right cornerback spot, will be a free agent at season's end.

Walls entered training camp last year as a starter as well but lost the job to Herndon after injuring his ankle in training camp.

"I don't know what the coaches think right now, but I want to compete for a spot," Alexander said. "I talk to Champ (Bailey) every day. I feel like I'm more into the group this year because it's my second year. When you're a rookie, you're just trying to kind of fit in, but this year I'm more part of the group. It's easier for me to talk to them, get some help.

"Experience helps. It wasn't fun, but it helped. I learned it's a different level out there, just a different level than where you were at before, and you have to see it first, maybe. I just go from there."

Clockwork Orange
06-04-2005, 12:46 AM
Well Roc, look on the bright side. It can only get better from there.

KillerBronco#76
06-04-2005, 02:13 AM
i thought he did a good job when he played in the preseason and during the season when he got in just got torn up vs. a good receiver i cant blame him for that. good to see he's using it motivation, i hope he gets a spot on the roster

Florida_Bronco
06-04-2005, 04:46 AM
I still think he'll amount to something here.

Dukes
06-04-2005, 08:26 AM
"Oh, yeah, I remember sitting in that chair," Alexander said. "Anytime you get beat like that, I took it all upon me. That's what you've got to do, take it upon yourself. I'm not going to say I was a rookie or that's the position I play or anything like that. That's what I feel I have to do, take it upon myself to make me better and stronger.

Just from reading that I can tell that he's a mature, team player. If he wasn't a rookie last year and played that poorly against Indy there's not many reasons why I could support him. He's def got my support now though. Go Roc!

SpringStein
06-04-2005, 08:30 AM
What is his chance of making the team this year, 50/50? With 3 CB's taken on day 1, it will be a challenge to hold on to his spot.

rbackfactory80
06-04-2005, 10:04 AM
What is his chance of making the team this year, 50/50? With 3 CB's taken on day 1, it will be a challenge to hold on to his spot.

With what happened to him last year vs. the colts it could take a whole career to get that kind of redemption.

Crushaholic
06-04-2005, 12:00 PM
What is his chance of making the team this year, 50/50? With 3 CB's taken on day 1, it will be a challenge to hold on to his spot.

I would be surprised if Darrent Williams gets a fair chance at CB. I want to think that we found the speedy return man for which we were searching. Others could get a look at safety. I think Roc will still have a spot on the depth chart.

Play2win
06-04-2005, 12:18 PM
What strikes me is, after our recent draft, we've got a hell of a lot of speed on both sides of the ball. A HELL OF A LOT!!!

I think our overall team speed has got to be near the tops in the league. Especially on the D. We all know about our LBs, but with the new crop of CBs, our whole Defensive backfield is built for speed. This is going to be a very exciting year!!!

2KBack
06-04-2005, 12:24 PM
What strikes me is, after our recent draft, we've got a hell of a lot of speed on both sides of the ball. A HELL OF A LOT!!!

I think our overall team speed has got to be near the tops in the league. Especially on the D. We all know about our LBs, but with the new crop of CBs, our whole Defensive backfield is built for speed. This is going to be a very exciting year!!!


I agree on most counts, but the lack of speed at Safety has me concerned.

TheReverend
06-04-2005, 12:24 PM
What is his chance of making the team this year, 50/50? With 3 CB's taken on day 1, it will be a challenge to hold on to his spot.

I figure we keep 6 spots for CB considering Darrent Williams will make it as a returner. Champ, Lenny and Willie should be the first 3 that leaves 2 and Id guess it would be Roc and Paymah with Foxworth on the PS, Browner and LeSeuer at S and Shoate pumping gas.

Play2win
06-04-2005, 12:37 PM
I agree on most counts, but the lack of speed at Safety has me concerned.

I am hoping some of our CBs will make a Successful switchover to safety. I am not just talking about LaSuer (sp) either, Whoever has got what it takes to play the position, because right now, on our team, it is equally as important as the starting Cornerback position.

frerottenextelway
06-04-2005, 12:40 PM
Cut the bastard. I don't care who it was against, anyone that gives up 300 yards to a team's #3 receiver shouldn't be on this team.

2KBack
06-04-2005, 12:55 PM
Cut the bastard. I don't care who it was against, anyone that gives up 300 yards to a team's #3 receiver shouldn't be on this team.


Reggie Wayne was the #2 reciever, but all 3 receivers had over 1000 yards last season.

Cito Pelon
06-04-2005, 06:02 PM
i thought he did a good job when he played in the preseason and during the season when he got in just got torn up vs. a good receiver i cant blame him for that. good to see he's using it motivation, i hope he gets a spot on the roster

Roc wasn't the only CB that Manning and the boys tore up last year. Having 000 (zero) pass rush, and a defensive coaching staff that couldn't seem to get on the same page didn't help at all.

Garcia Bronco
06-04-2005, 06:15 PM
"We Love ya Roc!"

Pendejo
06-04-2005, 06:21 PM
The fact of the matter is the Colts had 3 1,000 yard receivers last year. The Donks...with their anemic pass rush were able to pretty much account for two of them. Blaming it on a rookie thrust into a starter's role...and playing in his first playoff game is foolish. Reggie Wayne is legit, and the Colts knew a lot of what the Donks were looking to do with Roc based on their regular season tilt.

With the proper mind set you learn a hell of a lot more through failure than you do success. Assuming Roc is right in the head...he learned a tremendous lesson. He's a kid with upside. The Donks simply didn't field the better team...again.

DBroncos4life
06-05-2005, 12:31 AM
My feeling is that Roc will make the team. Walls will start next to Bailey and the others will fight for the nickel spot. I feel that LeSueur will make a better then avg saftey because of his ability to play zone. Browner will be a great player. I think he will cut down his weight, why it got that high in the first place is beyond me. Browner will be the future beside Bailey. Foxworth and Payham (sp) should make the team as well. After seeing Bells 4.3 speed as a gunner Denvers knew thats what they needed and thats why they got those two. Payham was a very good gunner for Wash State.

Atlas
06-05-2005, 02:15 AM
"We Love ya Roc!"

After the Colts game on the plane home Alexander was really down he was sitting beside himself on the plane back to Denver. Shanny came and sat next to him. He asked Roc if he played his hardest and asked him if he gave a 100%. Roc said a little defensively "Yes, sir Coach. I tried my best, I gave all I had." Shanny then said "Well, you have nothing to be ashamed of. Keep your head up and keep working to get better and good things will happen." This was told by Shanny after the game. As bad as that game hurt us to watch just put yourself in Alexander's position. Hopefully he can put it behind him and use that experience to get better.

Florida_Bronco
06-05-2005, 09:13 AM
After the Colts game on the plane home Alexander was really down he was sitting beside himself on the plane back to Denver. Shanny came and sat next to him. He asked Roc if he played his hardest and asked him if he gave a 100%. Roc said a little defensively "Yes, sir Coach. I tried my best, I gave all I had." Shanny then said "Well, you have nothing to be ashamed of. Keep your head up and keep working to get better and good things will happen." This was told by Shanny after the game. As bad as that game hurt us to watch just put yourself in Alexander's position. Hopefully he can put it behind him and use that experience to get better.

REP.

Anyone who watched that game certainly can't blame a lack of effort on Roc's part. I still believe Roc has a solid career ahead of him.

wabbit
06-05-2005, 09:26 AM
I haven't talked to anyone on the coaching staff in two months, but all you have to do is look at the draft, and then the signing of college FA Brandon Browner to know Alexander is in trouble...if only from a numbers standpoint.

I had very reliable information that Willie Middlebrooks was/is on the edge...perhaps a June 1st release, but as has been pointed out, the June 1st date didn't make any sense.

Regardless, both Middlebrooks & Alexander will have a mighty battle this year just to hold onto their jobs.

Shanahan & others all feel for these guys, but when it comes down to nut-cutting...it all business.

If one or two of these young kids really flashes some skill...'see ya, thanks for for stopping by'

TheReverend
06-05-2005, 09:28 AM
I haven't talked to anyone on the coaching staff in two months, but all you have to do is look at the draft, and then the signing of college FA Brandon Browner to know Alexander is in trouble...if only from a numbers standpoint.

I had very reliable information that Willie Middlebrooks was/is on the edge...perhaps a June 1st release, but as has been pointed out, the June 1st date didn't make any sense.

Regardless, both Middlebrooks & Alexander will have a mighty battle this year just to hold onto their jobs.

Shanahan & others all feel for these guys, but when it comes down to nut-cutting...it all business.

If one or two of these young kids really flashes some skill...'see ya, thanks for for stopping by'

My money is on willie playing nickel and then starting most of the season due to a walls injury. probowl, perhaps...

Mediator12
06-05-2005, 09:45 AM
I think the numbers game will begin with the safeties. Brandon and Young have alot to prove. For all of the talk of moving Browner to safety, it is not official yet like Leseuer. Once the safteties get worked out, the remaining guys will have to battle for 6 min active spots. Right now only Bailey and Walls are a lock. That leaves four open spots. Middlebrooks, Cox and Shoate are probably gone and that leaves Roc, Williams, Paymah, and Foxworth.

I like Willie but 51 games played and 2 starts in four years, constant recurring injuries, and zero consistency are going to show him the door this year.

rbackfactory80
06-05-2005, 01:10 PM
REP.

Anyone who watched that game certainly can't blame a lack of effort on Roc's part. I still believe Roc has a solid career ahead of him.

To tell you the truth I was so pissed off watching that game I had to leave the house. I said ok we stop the colts on the first drive they had then all of the sudden hell broke lose. I thought I was jinxing the team by watching the game so I went down the street to get some chinese food. Unfortunately in the quarter and a half I was gone things didn't get any better.

DariusGoingDeep
06-05-2005, 02:08 PM
I just hope Roc comes into camp a better player because of it. It was a very unfair situation to be in...an undrafted rookie, lined up against a 1000 yard reciever, with the best qb in the league throwing to him all day, in a huge playoff game...i feel bad for him, because of how hard he played and how little help he recieved from the safeties, yet how he became the goat... there was a lot of stuff that attributed to the loss

i know hes a pro, and is being paid to perform, but i dont know any UDFA that could come in and do much differently