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Rascal
06-02-2005, 11:50 PM
The wife and I just went and watched Crash. It was an excellent movie, although depressing, and I would recommend it.

However, on the way home we had a discussion. Is the racism depicted in the movie a good representation of real life? For those that didn't see the movie, how prevelent and and to what degree is racism in America?

Fortunately, I have never seen the extent of racism that was shown in the movie. But that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Mods, if this gets ugly or whatever please move it. But being the offseason and things are slow I figured what the hell.

ClevelandBronco2
06-03-2005, 01:08 AM
There are folks in this country who would consider me to be a race traitor. I married a Hispanic woman from Mexico, but here in the U.S., I'm called white.

On the other hand, there was a powerful empire in Europe 60 years ago that might have sent me to my death because, as a Slovene, I just wouldn't have been quite white enough.

My kids are mudbloods (it's a Harry Potter term for wizards that derive from muggle, or non-magic parents).

My ancestors on my mother's side fought valiantly in the War Between the States. BTW, it wasn't the Civil War. The Yankees got it wrong. Guess which side my family was on. My ancestors were too poor to own anyone, but I guess that didn't matter. It was the principle that one person ought to be able to own another that they fought for. (I'm guessing that they weren't very well educated, but that's just speculation on my part.)

My grandmother -- we're back on the Slovene immigrant side now (sorry if you can't keep up) was featured in a man/woman-on-the-street interview during the Hough riots in Cleveland, with her mug shot, no less, saying, "(Totally unacceptable N-word)s no good."

I've heard people in my church declare their scorn for other types of Christians. Catholics this, Baptists that. I left the religion that baptised me rather than put up with that garbage.

I have two aunts who've been forbidden by their churches to eat with each other. Mind you, they're still members of the same religious sect. It's just that one chose to change her church. She changed buildings, not sects, nothing more. Now they are allowed to talk but they can't eat together. Look, you tell me about that one.

Racism (and sexism, sectism, whatever-else-ism) has been, is, and always will be real. Not just here, but everywhere. IMHO, some folks need to be angry at other folks.

I'm at an advantaged position as a European-American (because my grandparents were smart enough to leave Europe before the Nazis would have executed them) and my kids look every bit the part as well, even though they're more Hispanic than anything else.

Problem is: I don't care about any of this. I'd never make a decision on a friend, an employee or a wife based on ethnic information. Look, if you have a problem with the woman I married then you have the problem, not me.

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Remember that line in Warren Beatty's "Bullworth?" Something like: "We all got to keep ******* each other until we're all one color.

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I haven't seen the movie, but racism sets me off. I grew up in a racially charged city. My father was the only man in his family who wouldn't tolerate racism while every one of the cousins in my generation (37 of them) were immersed in it. Thanks to my old man, I just never caught the racism disease.

Atlas
06-03-2005, 01:09 AM
I haven't seen the movie so I don't know what your talking about.

Personally I think everyone is way too touchy on the subject these days. The days of Archie Bunker, The Jeffersons and Sanford and Son are over and that is too bad. If we can't laugh at each other and our own insecurities I believe society as a whole loses.

ClevelandBronco2
06-03-2005, 01:24 AM
...racism sets me off. I grew up in a racially charged city. My father was the only man in his family who wouldn't tolerate racism while every one of the cousins in my generation (37 of them) were immersed in it. Thanks to my old man, I just never caught the racism disease.

I should correct myself. Two of the 37 first cousins were half Italian because my aunt married an Italian man. You wouldn't believe how poorly their father was treated by my other uncles and aunts. But sure, let's get real. How can an Italian hope to stand up to the ideals of a family of Slovenes?

Can it get more idiotic than that?

Don't even say it. Yes, I know it can.

KillerBronco#76
06-03-2005, 03:16 AM
the only way racism goes away is if no one cares if another person is racist. Its kinda like if someone is trying to annoy you, you just have to ignore them for them to go away. but the problem is everyone always holds a grudge and they wont just let it go. im talking about anyone and everyone. It seems like racist white people are pissed because the advantages minorities are given. And it seems like racist minorities are pissed at the advantages white people have. I dont see why its so hard to exept that almost everyone is given a chance to succeed. Thats whats great about america you can go from nothing to everything with hard work. Its all on the person to take the advantages they have and use them and not be jelous because someone else has different ones than you and you want theirs.Really with me and my freinds(of all races) we think of racism as a joke and tell racist jokes to each other all the time cause we dont care whats said. I think eventualy racism will wear away as the generations that experienced it eventualy die out( not meaning to offend anyone)

This is just the oppinion of a 17 year old so take it however you want

Northman
06-03-2005, 03:40 AM
the only way racism goes away is if no one cares if another person is racist. Its kinda like if someone is trying to annoy you, you just have to ignore them for them to go away. but the problem is everyone always holds a grudge and they wont just let it go. im talking about anyone and everyone. It seems like racist white people are pissed because the advantages minorities are given. And it seems like racist minorities are pissed at the advantages white people have. I dont see why its so hard to exept that almost everyone is given a chance to succeed. Thats whats great about america you can go from nothing to everything with hard work. Its all on the person to take the advantages they have and use them and not be jelous because someone else has different ones than you and you want theirs.Really with me and my freinds(of all races) we think of racism as a joke and tell racist jokes to each other all the time cause we dont care whats said. I think eventualy racism will wear away as the generations that experienced it eventualy die out( not meaning to offend anyone)





This is just the oppinion of a 17 year old so take it however you want



Totally agree.

Odysseus
06-03-2005, 06:04 AM
I was reading one of Michael Crichton's speechs. He likes to deliver these talks to gauge people's reactions to his material and see where he's on or off. It's very interesting stuff if you get the chance I highly reccommend it. His central theme has been and remains the rule of science.

I love science because of it's objectivity but our modern thinking is so clouded with negativity that we would find a way to pollute science just like the Nazi did. Bad reasoning leads to bad results. Environmentalism is good but since it has become politicized it is now bad.

One of the things he discussed is the myth of paradise. He talks about nature and how little we understand it. He proves that farmers are smart and most folks...city folks...have the wrong idea about life. There is no race, culture or group of people who have not committed murder, rape or some destructive human behavior. We are all sinners in this world.

Racism was a term used to describe the dominant cultures negative effect on other cultures. Reverse racism was a legal term invented to counter this claim. Now ALL racism has come under the new definition of racism. This is interesting to note because that means any discussion about racism is already tainted. There is NO discussion of racism in reality just corrections and adjustments to maintain whatever the dominant group wants.

I'm not anticipating anyone being enlightened by a thing that I say but my hope is while the dogs are yapping around the tree at this one pitiful little cat that they would realize they have no idea what the cats point of view is and to ask a dog what a cat thinks really is kind of funny if you think about it.

I know. Nobody likes cats. Whatcha gonna do?

Within any important issue, there are always aspects no one wishes to discuss. --George Orwell--

*SPEECHS: 1.Why speculate? A speech to the International Leadership Forum. 2.The Greatest Challenge facing mankind:Remarks to the commonwealth club of San Francisco. 3.Aliens cause Global Warming: The 2003 Michelin Lecture at the California Institute of Technology.

watermock
06-03-2005, 06:36 AM
As usual, tigger nails it.

I must have the crown on this thing, for no real reason.

I broke some bone or ligament in my good foot. How, I have no clue. I'm officially a cripple.

I like women of color, they just need to get that brillo pad under control.

I don't care what color you are, but I will tell you this, I hate Islamo-fascists.

Last year I paid thousands to have new curb, gutter and pavement in front of the house.

Mediacom just tore up the entire street putting in underground cable.

Go figure.

broncogary
06-03-2005, 06:37 AM
I know. Nobody likes cats. Whatcha gonna do?

Don't get mock started. :kubiak:

watermock
06-03-2005, 06:40 AM
My cat is a racist, he hates the Rottie down the street.

God he loves to tease that dog. If that dog ever gets ahold of him again, he's going to rip him apart. He's allready had one go around, I don't know if you remember, but I said Beezlebub was ambulatory.

He's fine, but what am I going to do.

I will just go out to the cat farm and get another. I'm rather attached to this one, but he's expendable. He's stone cold crazy.

I wouldn't mind having a dog, but I don't have a kid to yell at right now, to yell at the dog. The whole thing is absurd. A monkey would be amusing, for about two weeks.

Cat's are very low maintainance. Just have to keep the litter box to regulation, and your all set. hell, I don't even do more than pop off the lid of their tuna cans. They have tounges.

Poopy the hisser is about 115 in human years, and ornery as Grampa Simpson.

Billy Clyde Puckett
06-03-2005, 06:51 AM
Yes there is still some racism in the US but it is nothing like it was 40+ years ago when I was one of the first northern white kids to be bussed to an all black Jr. High two blocks from where Malcolm X grew up. I never had a problem based on race while I was there. Folk who make racism a huge issue today don't remember or did not experience those days.

I try very hard not to group people but to look at the individual. Most people forget the most important phrase of Martin Luther King's speech - "I have a dream that there will be a time when people are not judged by the color of their skin, BUT BY THE CONTENT OF THEIR CHARACTER." I try very hard to make my judgements of people based on their character. My wife makes a big deal about small pieces of her heritage, but I tell our kids that we are mutts just like most everyone else in the world. It's time we got past the hate based on non consequental things like skin color.

Hogan11
06-03-2005, 06:57 AM
I have no time for Racemen......I have to deal with enough weak minded people as it is.

Ray Finkle
06-03-2005, 09:25 AM
It depends...I am white and married an Indian women. Sometimes we get weird looks but not often. I think most times it depends on the area. The bigger the city, the more accepting it is....

Atlas
06-03-2005, 09:28 AM
It depends...I am white and married an Indian women. Sometimes we get weird looks but not often. I think most times it depends on the area. The bigger the city, the more accepting it is....

I went out with an Sioux Indian girl in college she was cute at the time she went back to the reservation to be a nurse. I saw her a couple of years ago and she hit the wall.... oh well, nice girl.

Ray Finkle
06-03-2005, 09:38 AM
I went out with an Sioux Indian girl in college she was cute at the time she went back to the reservation to be a nurse. I saw her a couple of years ago and she hit the wall.... oh well, nice girl.


LOL...Nis h i t a(I can't even spell her name right here....)is an India Indian.....hitting the wall is never good....look at Betty White...

baja
06-03-2005, 10:43 AM
I haven't seen the movie so I don't know what your talking about.

Personally I think everyone is way too touchy on the subject these days. The days of Archie Bunker, The Jeffersons and Sanford and Son are over and that is too bad. If we can't laugh at each other and our own insecurities I believe society as a whole loses.

this is my take too.

Tell me this is not true. People in general conversation talk one way but in smaller groups probe for true feelings about race and if certain signals are returned the conversation turns racist real fast and continues with great gusto. As a white guy I have stood by and watched this many a time and if I say something in defense of the race of people being talked about the conversation sharply reverts back to the two faced politically correct crap that is the current soup de jour.

baja
06-03-2005, 10:49 AM
the only way racism goes away is if no one cares if another person is racist. Its kinda like if someone is trying to annoy you, you just have to ignore them for them to go away. but the problem is everyone always holds a grudge and they wont just let it go. im talking about anyone and everyone. It seems like racist white people are pissed because the advantages minorities are given. And it seems like racist minorities are pissed at the advantages white people have. <b> I dont see why its so hard to exept that almost everyone is given a chance to succeed. </b>

Thats whats great about america you can go from nothing to everything with hard work. Its all on the person to take the advantages they have and use them and not be jelous because someone else has different ones than you and you want theirs.Really with me and my freinds(of all races) we think of racism as a joke and tell racist jokes to each other all the time cause we dont care whats said. I think eventualy racism will wear away as the generations that experienced it eventualy die out( not meaning to offend anyone)

This is just the oppinion of a 17 year old so take it however you want

It helps if you have big tits

Jori
06-03-2005, 03:24 PM
I saw the movie a couple of weeks ago and I found it fascinating. I think the overall theme of the movie was about how we form opinions about different races or groups based on stereotypes.

My father is black and my mother is a white French Canadian. I remember my dad saying the one comment he and my mom got was that he was marrying the devil. Me personally, I've been called zebra and oreo (by other blacks not whites). I've had people tell me I didn't know who I am because I am of mixed race. I had some bad times as a teenager, but I've learned that some people are just idiots. I'm proud of my mixed heritage (which is also Cherokee on my father's side).

I get a good laugh out of folks who try to figure out what race I am, some think I'm Hispanic, Asian....and some dude thought I was from Morocco :laugh:

dbfan4life
06-03-2005, 03:57 PM
Anyone ever hear Carlos Mencia's take on racism and political correctness? Funny stuff but sooooo very true. It's on his "Take a joke, America" CD or DVD. Basically says that same thing as some here. People take **** too seriously and need to lighten up and learn to laugh at others and to be laughed at yourself when you do something stupid.

FADERPROOF
06-03-2005, 04:28 PM
Never saw Crash, but I lvoe the movies American History X.

I have no time for racism, any of my friends that want to tell black jokes and drop th N word along with other derogatory words I immediately get on(which usually causes them to act lik immature ****s by saying it over and over again.)

I am used to being around a racist kind of atmosphere, the town I grew up in is a very small community and during my 4 years of highschool, we maybe had 5 black people attend our school, the rest were all white. It just led to a lot of closeminded and outsider views of what other races were like, hearing the stories and listening to jokes basically formed a lot of people's opinions of other races.

I'm now 4 years removed from highschool and don't see a lot of my classmates, but I hope that since they've all graduated that they have matured enough and met enough non-white people in this wordl to form a different view of what they are about instead of a sterotype on all as they lump each of them all together.

Alkazar
06-03-2005, 05:38 PM
My ancestors on my mother's side fought valiantly in the War Between the States. BTW, it wasn't the Civil War. The Yankees got it wrong. Guess which side my family was on. My ancestors were too poor to own anyone, but I guess that didn't matter. It was the principle that one person ought to be able to own another that they fought for. (I'm guessing that they weren't very well educated, but that's just speculation on my part.)



Just wanted to comment on this part. In reality, the South fought for the individual states right to choose for themselves, NOT FOR SLAVERY! This is a common misperception.

ClevelandBronco2
06-03-2005, 05:41 PM
Just wanted to comment on this part. In reality, the South fought for the individual states right to choose for themselves, NOT FOR SLAVERY! This is a common misperception.

Don't even bother, dude. That crappy old canard was nothing but a cover for the immoral support of slavery.

watermock
06-03-2005, 06:01 PM
I get a good laugh out of folks who try to figure out what race I am, some think I'm Hispanic, Asian....and some dude thought I was from Morocco

Before MLKJ had his head blown off, he said a few cool things.

labronx
06-03-2005, 06:33 PM
Before MLKJ had his head blown off, he said a few cool things.

you see, there you go again :pfbbt: :poke: :giggle:

Pick Six
06-03-2005, 06:46 PM
Don't even bother, dude. That crappy old canard was nothing but a cover for the immoral support of slavery.

People in the North thought very little about black people the same way that people in the South did. However, the way of life in the South was more DEPENDENT on slavery. They were fighting for their way of life and their right to continue with their way of life. It was much more complicated than the slavery issue.

ro_50
06-03-2005, 06:52 PM
Racism does exist in this country. My parents are from India and I was born and raised in Alabama. I'm 25. Its not that bad for me since I dont look like the Indians that come from my native country and speak clear english.

But I've been pulled over a couple of times, once in 1997 for apparently rolling a stop sign and my friend (who was Vietenamese) were patted down and they looked in my trunk for something (which I have no idea what for) since I was driving my dad's honda civic and my friend was driving his honda accord. The one cop said that my friend's accord fit the description of a car that was stolen and thats why we got stopped and for me rolling a stop sign. Oh yeah, this happened at 3 am when we were coming out of a church lock-in and we had no drugs (i dont do them) or alcohol on us and we showed them our ids, proof of insurance as well.

And the other time was a week after 9/11, i was driving home from Atl to Huntsville, AL. this is a trip ive made at least 50 times and i was pulled over in New Hope, Al. I was going the speed limit (47 in a 50 zone) and the cop who pulled me over said "he wanted to do a background check on me." after about 10 mins (he took my license and went over to his car) and then let me go and said "you are clear to go."

I think racism exists and I think I was pulled over twice cuz of my skin color. I know there are far more extreme cases of racism than mine, which were minor. But it does exist and for those that dont beleive it does, they need to become aware of it.

I'm dating an black girl right now and since I moved to the north (Michigan), people dont stare at us when we go out. But when I lived in alabama and was dating a black girl, we got more stares.

It depends on what is the social context of where you live.

TheNextStep
06-03-2005, 07:20 PM
I'm one of those people who is really, really touchy about race. I despise racism and do not tolerate racism... which made my stay in south Texas interesting.

That said, I have an honest question about something that's puzzled me for a while:

I know that back before the civil rights movement, one of the many racial slurs used was to call a black person a "spade." So here's the question: The expression, "I'm not afraid to call a spade a spade"... is that a derivative of card playing, is it a racist expression, or is there some other origin for the expression?

labronx
06-03-2005, 07:25 PM
However, the way of life in the South was more DEPENDENT on slavery. They were fighting for their way of life and their right to continue with their way of life. It was much more complicated than the slavery issue.
Hilarious!
two humans fighting over the right to own another human?
because one claims that he is used to living that way?
so he needs to own a human in order to survive?
he can't survive on his own?
common now!
or is it that he needs to own him to feel in control of his life of his world or the world to be fullfilled?
it's as simple as that right? or no?

tell me where does it get complicated?
the economics of the south, agriculture, legalities, social pshycology of the south,slave dependancy, drug dependancy, women, vice, where does it end!


adaptation my friend thats the way of life.
Thats the whole reason we are here!

no excuses!

Only The Strong Survive!
We Livin' THIS till the day that we die
Survival of the Fittest!

labronx
06-03-2005, 07:31 PM
I'm one of those people who is really, really touchy about race. I despise racism and do not tolerate racism... which made my stay in south Texas interesting.

That said, I have an honest question about something that's puzzled me for a while:

I know that back before the civil rights movement, one of the many racial slurs used was to call a black person a "spade." So here's the question: The expression, "I'm not afraid to call a spade a spade"... is that a derivative of card playing, is it a racist expression, or is there some other origin for the expression?

whats up man!

I alwayz wondered about that one and thought about it through the card game, however it didn't make sense, because then, anything will apply?

like im not afraid to call a square a square or im not afraid to call a dog a dog or you know... it can go on forever.

good one!

hopefully someone will fill us in

-Slap-
06-03-2005, 07:33 PM
I'm one of those people who is really, really touchy about race. I despise racism and do not tolerate racism... which made my stay in south Texas interesting.

That said, I have an honest question about something that's puzzled me for a while:

I know that back before the civil rights movement, one of the many racial slurs used was to call a black person a "spade." So here's the question: The expression, "I'm not afraid to call a spade a spade"... is that a derivative of card playing, is it a racist expression, or is there some other origin for the expression?

Here's a rather lengthy explanation of the origin of that phrase, courtesy of yaelf.com.

"to call a spade a spade"

(Phrase Origins)

is NOT an ethnic slur.
It derives from an ancient Greek expression: _ta syka syka, te:n
skaphe:n de skaphe:n onomasein_ = "to call a fig a fig, a trough a
trough". This is first recorded in Aristophanes' play _The Clouds_
(423 B.C.), was used by Menander and Plutarch, and is still current
in modern Greek. There has been a slight shift in meaning: in
ancient times the phrase was often used pejoratively, to denote a
rude person who spoke his mind tactlessly; but it now, like the
English phrase, has an exclusively positive connotation. It is
possible that both the fig and the trough were originally sexual
symbols.
In the Renaissance, Erasmus confused Plutarch's "trough"
(_skaphe:_) with the Greek word for "digging tool" (_skapheion_;
the two words are etymologically connected, a trough being
something that is hollowed out) and rendered it in Latin as _ligo_.
Thence it was translated into English in 1542 by Nicholas Udall in
his translation of Erasmus's version as "to call a spade [...] a
spade". (_Bartlett's Familiar Quotations_ perpetuates Erasmus'
error by mistranslating _skaphe:_ as "spade" three times under
Menander.)
"To call a spade a bloody shovel" is not recorded until 1919.
"Spade" in the sense of "Negro" is not recorded until 1928. (It
comes from the colour of the playing card symbol, via the phrase
"black as the ace of spades".)

This, of course, does *not* necessarily render the modern use of
"to call a spade a spade" "politically correct". Rosalie Maggio, in
_The Bias-Free Word-Finder_, writes: "The expression is associated
with a racial slur and is to be avoided", and recommends using "to
speak plainly" or other alternatives instead. In another entry, she
writes: "Although by definition and derivation '****ardly' and
'****er' are completely unrelated, '****ardly' is too close for
comfort to a word with profoundly negative associations. Use
instead one of the many available alternatives: stingy, miserly,
parsimonious..." Beard and Cerf, in _The Official Politically
Correct Handbook_, p. 123, report that an administrator at the
University of California at Santa Cruz campaigned for the banning
of such phrases as "a chink in his armor" and "a nip in the air",
because "chink" and "nip" are also derogatory terms for "Chinese
person" and "Japanese person" respectively. In the late 1970s in
the U.S., a boycott of the (now defunct) Sambo's restaurant chain
was organized, even though the name "Sambo's" was a combination of
the names of its two founders and did not come from the offensive
word for dark-skinned person.

Hogan11
06-03-2005, 07:39 PM
I remember the Sambo's thing...we had one in the town I lived in at the time and they made them change their name to No Place Like Sam's.....I think it was bought out by Friendlys...or was it Perkins?

-Slap-
06-03-2005, 07:44 PM
I remember the Sambo's thing...we had one in the town I lived in at the time and they made them change their name to No Place Like Sam's.....I think it was bought out by Friendlys...or was it Perkins?

I don't buy that excuse, either. I remember a mural on the wall of a little dark skinned boy messing with a tiger, who was pretending to be asleep, in my neighborhood Sambo's.

I just reread that and it looks like a bad joke, but it was true.

Spider
06-03-2005, 08:37 PM
Racism is still here , granted not like it was in the 30's but it is still here , you want to see Racism ? be a whitey and go on a res , this is no Joke , a Guy was killed 3 years ago on the wind river Res, murder still hasnt been solved ... 2 Years ago right here in Casper , So. Poplar street , a guy just moved from Chicago , Shot and killed a black man cause he was black , North A street , a 18 Year old Male was taken into custody last year for Chasin black People with a 12 gauge shotgun ( he had just moved from Cali)
then of course we have the Mathew Sheppard case , well that wasnt Racism , that was homophobes ........
Casper can be a bad ass place , we have rough necks comming from everywhere , another boom happening right now in Casper , and Booms attract young people single wild and have nothing to lose , looking for a job .......
Just like the guy that pulled a knife on me a few months back , From Cali , thinking he could push this redneck around ..........
so I think we are getting alot of rejects from other states , moving here , thinking Racism is ok, and pushing locals around is ok ..........

Spider
06-03-2005, 08:39 PM
Hell we are actually having Traffic Jams , built almost 200 miles of new surface streets , 750 new houses another 2500 planned .........

watermock
06-03-2005, 08:47 PM
Jeepers Ro 50.

That ain't kosher.

watermock
06-03-2005, 08:56 PM
Mock hurt his left foot.

Dammit. God dammit.

I think it's healing. I have a bad hip, knee ankle and toe on the right foot. My left leg is fine.

I will fall down like a frog if my left leg goes...

labronx
06-03-2005, 08:57 PM
Hell we are actually having Traffic Jams , built almost 200 miles of new surface streets , 750 new houses another 2500 planned .........
man spide,

your freakin' scarying me. Ima have to walk alone in the parking lot after work.

seriously though, some pretty crazy stuff hapenin up there.
Shoot the fact that it's named Casper scares me right there.

LA is more drug or gang or money driven crimes they are not as obviously racist as the ones you described

that kinda s*t scares the crap out of city boys and in a way im from the woods too.
Id **** my pants if hicks or reds are maddoggin me I wouldn't stay a minute in that town from what you make it seem.

"honey just keep your eyes on the road and keep drivin', don't stop!"

so are they those crimes federal being that they are racially motivated?

Spider
06-03-2005, 09:51 PM
man spide,

your freakin' scarying me. Ima have to walk alone in the parking lot after work.

seriously though, some pretty crazy stuff hapenin up there.
Shoot the fact that it's named Casper scares me right there.

LA is more drug or gang or money driven crimes they are not as obviously racist as the ones you described

that kinda s*t scares the crap out of city boys and in a way im from the woods too.
Id **** my pants if hicks or reds are maddoggin me I wouldn't stay a minute in that town from what you make it seem.

"honey just keep your eyes on the road and keep drivin', don't stop!"

so are they those crimes federal being that they are racially motivated?

No , the one on So. Poplar was ruled Drug related , despite the witness hearing th guy say Die you F'n ni**&r , and the guy with a shotgun Was tried in county court , we dont have much of a federal infrastructur here in Casper , the guy that died on the Res , well his death will never be found out , and if so , be hard to convict .......
Most of us believe in the state motto "Equal Rights" ...... it is the elements from other states that are giving us a bad name .......In fact a woman lives 3 houses down from me , black , lived here all of her life , Her mom Ran a bording house back in the late 1800's and she has never had a Problem with Racism , in Fact there are 4 black Familys on this block , and they are better nieghbors then I am ;D ........

Spider
06-03-2005, 10:04 PM
oh and about the name Casper , well he was a Lt. in the army , in charge of protecting settlers , and travelers in this area , being 50 miles north of Ft. Fetterman it was a daunting task. The Native americans were out for blood after the Sand Creek massacre that happened in Colo .
Well there are 3 stories about the demise of Casper ......
1. Capser Collins died protecting settlers from a Indian uprising .....
2. Collins died protecting soldier , that was wounded in a battle ....
3. A tribe of Lakotas attacked Ft. Casper , and to save the Unit Casper Collins Charged head on to buy time for the wounded to escape ......
Despitewhat story you want to believe , Casper died going for it , and that means somthing here , they finaly found Casper collins Rifle in the Plate ΒΌ Mile from Ft.Casper , so the 3 rd story has the most credit ........
BTW , Ft.Collins was named after Caspers Dad , both were from Ohio , sent here to tame the west .... ;D

baja
06-03-2005, 10:41 PM
Mock hurt his left foot.

Dammit. God dammit.

I think it's healing. I have a bad hip, knee ankle and toe on the right foot. My left leg is fine.

I will fall down like a frog if my left leg goes...

Keep it out of your mouth and you won't have that problem.

BRONCCRUSHFAN
06-04-2005, 01:17 AM
I had the fortunate or unfortunate pleasure (depending on your point of view), to have been on every Continent in the world besides Antarctica and Europe. We as Americans have come farther in the last 40 years, than some nations have in several hundred. For instance, take a good look at Rwanda. Although yes both sides of that rebellion were Africans, they didn't see it that way and tried to commit genicide on the other (If you want a good movie, check out Hotel Rwanda). The same goes in Ethiopia, Somalia, and the Middle East. We view these people as Africans and Arabs, they don't even see one another as part of the same race. It makes you evaluate how precious life is, when you see what Sunni Muslims will do to ****e Muslims. Now, you are going to say that is religious based and not race based, but they are exactly the same. People hating people for their differences (i.e Race, color, creed, religious denomination, or sexual orientation).

I am very excited to see where America will be 40 years from now, seeing how far we've come in such a short time. Unfortunately though, I don't think you will totally get rid of Racism. The only hope we have is to cripple it so bad, that the severe minority are the only idiots out there.

However, I firmly believe in my heart that some of the groups and government agencies that are designed to fight racism, actually encourage it. I say this, because if you were to Eracism, they would have no purpose, and therefore would not receive funds. Imagine Jessie Jackson or the ACLU trying to justify their existance and government funding, if racism were destroyed.

Pick Six
06-04-2005, 01:27 AM
two humans fighting over the right to own another human?
because one claims that he is used to living that way?
so he needs to own a human in order to survive?
he can't survive on his own?
common now!
or is it that he needs to own him to feel in control of his life of his world or the world to be fullfilled?
it's as simple as that right? or no?

America fought with herself over the idea of slavery being used to maintain the economy of the South and determining the direction of the future. The southern states were dependent on crops taken from the plantation. That's the way of life I'm talking about. The North was more into manufacturing, but the South depended on slaves to keep their economy moving. If you think that it's merely a question of the North being right and the South being wrong over the slavery issue, you need to read up on the issues surrounding the Civil War.

That's one of the reasons that Lincoln "freed the slaves" in 1863. The southern economy would have taken a big hit if the slaves left the plantation. It was more of a strategic ploy to weaken the resolve of the South rather than "the right thing to do". In fact, after the Emancipation Proclamation, black people were "free" but they had nowhere to go. Lincoln didn't care about the slaves as human beings. In fact, the Constitution at the time stated that a black person only counted as 2/3 of a person. He wanted to hit the South in the pocketbook. Slaves were just pawns in a larger game. There is no doubt that slavery was a BIG issue, but it wasn't the only issue at work.

TheNextStep
06-04-2005, 01:45 AM
Thank you for the answer, Slap. I can't tell you how long that's bothered me.

I'd rep you but I apparently must spread it around some more...

Cito Pelon
06-04-2005, 01:58 AM
25% of what we call "racism" is crybabies needing an excuse to cover their own inadequacies. That goes for "reverse-racism" also.

25% of "racism" is peer pressure. "Birds of a feather flock together", basically.

Another 25% of racism isn't racial at all - it's YOU'RE AN ASSHOLE! NOBODY likes you.

The last 25% of racism is racism, pure and simple. And usually that's pure ignorance. Daddy and Mommy were racists, and the next generation never breaks away from that indoctrination.

If you start by assuming humans are no different than chimpanzees, it all makes sense. If you start out expecting humans to be better than chimpanzees, you're just setting yourself up to be enraged by human behavior. That is the sum lesson of my life's experience with humans, and I've been around the block a few times.

TDmvp
06-04-2005, 07:30 AM
Hate is a total wasteful thing . in the timeeveryone spends hating one another we could have probally wiped hunger out of most of the world , cured cancer,and load of stuff.

I see "white" people of today sometimes be ignorant to things they themselfs havent faced.While not being maybe a part of the problem they are in ways blind to the fact there is one ,while some are just stupid hate loven red necks who hate things they dont know , wont know , and probally wouldn't understand if you spelled it out to them in 3rd grade speech.

While some see past color to the heart of the man and care for all and understand the past and push foward to when everyone is as we was ment to be

I see "black" people today struggle to feel accepted in their own home town struggle to find a voice who actually is working for their benifit and battle a wound that aint healed yet,While some are mean ,bitter,and uncaring about their own race or any other and are just as unwilling to heal the wound.

While some are working hard to lift themselfs and ALL around them to better things and knowing where they came from and understanding it but not wanting to use it for their gain,as they build a future




racism .. 1 little word that strikes so many feelings...

I do not blame the little old "white" lady who is scared when encounters a group of "black" teens ...

I do not blame "black" middle aged man who fears they are being picked out by the police for their color .


I blame us all for letting something like hate fill so much of the short amount of time we have here , and hope someday we can understand Pain makes us equal . Our souls make us equal . Love makes us equal. Death makes us equal ,
"Colors" just make us different ....

-Slap-
06-04-2005, 08:08 AM
I haven't seen Crash. I heard that its just relentless in its message, though. Literally every scene is race driven. I've never been anywhere like that or experienced anything like that, so I tend to believe the film maker kind of went overboard to make his points.

I have never understood the term "reverse racism". I think racism is racism. I know a lot of black people will claim that its impossible for any black person to be racist because its only natural for a persecuted underclass to hate the people who oppress them. I've seen Spike Lee and Harry Edwards play this card many times. It makes sense. Racism is their bread and butter. They don't want to be reminded that they perpetuate it, though.

I don't think we'll ever see an end to racism. Ethnocentrism is deeply ingrained into many people and that condition typically metastasizes into racism, given a little time and the proper (inevitable) conditions.

I used to wring my hands over racism and wish it would go away, but its a Quixotic quest. The best we can do is treat the people we care about as well as we can and let the rest shake out as it will.

BRONCCRUSHFAN
06-05-2005, 12:24 AM
I've seen Spike Lee and Harry Edwards play this card many times. It makes sense. Racism is their bread and butter. They don't want to be reminded that they perpetuate it, though.

I don't think we'll ever see an end to racism. Ethnocentrism is deeply ingrained into many people and that condition typically metastasizes into racism, given a little time and the proper (inevitable) conditions.

I used to wring my hands over racism and wish it would go away, but its a Quixotic quest. The best we can do is treat the people we care about as well as we can and let the rest shake out as it will.

You must spread some more reputation around before giving it to Slap again (or whatever the hell that message says).

REB
06-05-2005, 12:29 AM
Here's an idear................ Stop




REB

1-2-3-:broncos:

ClevelandBronco2
06-05-2005, 12:42 AM
Hate is a total wasteful thing . in the timeeveryone spends hating one another we could have probally wiped hunger out of most of the world , cured cancer,and load of stuff.

I see "white" people of today sometimes be ignorant to things they themselfs havent faced.While not being maybe a part of the problem they are in ways blind to the fact there is one ,while some are just stupid hate loven red necks who hate things they dont know , wont know , and probally wouldn't understand if you spelled it out to them in 3rd grade speech.

While some see past color to the heart of the man and care for all and understand the past and push foward to when everyone is as we was ment to be

I see "black" people today struggle to feel accepted in their own home town struggle to find a voice who actually is working for their benifit and battle a wound that aint healed yet,While some are mean ,bitter,and uncaring about their own race or any other and are just as unwilling to heal the wound.

While some are working hard to lift themselfs and ALL around them to better things and knowing where they came from and understanding it but not wanting to use it for their gain,as they build a future




racism .. 1 little word that strikes so many feelings...

I do not blame the little old "white" lady who is scared when encounters a group of "black" teens ...

I do not blame "black" middle aged man who fears they are being picked out by the police for their color .


I blame us all for letting something like hate fill so much of the short amount of time we have here , and hope someday we can understand Pain makes us equal . Our souls make us equal . Love makes us equal. Death makes us equal ,
"Colors" just make us different ....

Looks like you're working to spread the light, TDmvp. Until the truth is accepted, none of us can be free.

TomServo
06-05-2005, 01:35 AM
everytime i hear jesse jackson or al sharpton whine @ what ol white america owes them i wonder if theyve ever been to gettsyburg to honor all those poor white boys that fought to end slavery.

Pick Six
06-05-2005, 01:36 AM
then of course we have the Mathew Sheppard case , well that wasnt Racism , that was homophobes ........

Good ol' Topeka, KS is the home of the Phelps idiots if you ever feel like punching someone's lights out... :wiggle:

TomServo
06-05-2005, 01:40 AM
on a side note.....one of my grandfathers had such a thick spanish accent my mom had to translate his english to me w/i was little..........and the man was a freakin racist. im just saying a person doesnt have to be white and fly a confederate battle flag to be a racist.

MileHighMania
06-05-2005, 06:32 AM
Sorta on topic here...

Has anyone heard if they are using an identical remake of the General Lee in the new Dukes of Hazzard movie? You know, with the rebel flag on top? Whether they do it or not, there will be a new huge race debate b/c of the flag. I don't care for the movie, but am interested in what they do.

Merlin
06-05-2005, 09:39 AM
There is no doubt that racism in America has greatly diminished in the past 40 years, and despite the blip in the 80s, it has continued fade. The biggest problem with racism (obviously there are others, but this is the most pernicious) is that it currently operates at an institutional level. By the latter I mean that there are practices within are social structures that continue to benefit certain groups of people over others (whom ever is the dominant group within that community, they derive the benefit).

Lets consider the process of hiring. If we take two well-qualified candidates (forget equal since there always is some type of difference), quite often people will choose the individual with whom they feel most comfortable (and why not, our "instincts" are also used to make decisions). If one's experience embeds them more in one type of culture than another, is it surprising that they will feel more comfortable with the one that is closest to theirs; thus, birds of a feather fly together. It is factors such as these that require institutions some times to implement process that encourage diversity, otherwise it is unlikely to occur by itself (or it will occur at too slow a pace).

Bringing this to the NFL ;), if all owners are white older men, is it surprising they will feel more comfortable picking someone with whom they can connect? Again, is it surprising that GMs are going to pick someone that with communication is a simple process (not that it would be complicated with another subculture, it is just a question of which is perceived subconsciously as being easier).

Now take the NFL and blow it up to America at large (only it is worse in corporate America because merit is not as easily measured as it is in the sports field). On the plus side, as a culture, as we become more integrated, these issues become more moot, and their is no question that integration keeps growing. However, there will always be some form of prejudice. It is in our nature to differentiate, the problem is how the process of differentiation manifests itself in the community. Sadly, too often it is wrapped by ignorance and delivered with unreasoned hate.

Merlin

baja
06-05-2005, 09:42 AM
There is no doubt that racism in America has greatly diminished in the past 40 years, and despite the blip in the 80s, it has continued fade. The biggest problem with racism (obviously there are others, but this is the most pernicious) is that it currently operates at an institutional level. By the latter I mean that there are practices within are social structures that continue to benefit certain groups of people over others (whom ever is the dominant group within that community, they derive the benefit).

Lets consider the process of hiring. If we take two well-qualified candidates (forget equal since there always is some type of difference), quite often people will choose the individual with whom they feel most comfortable (and why not, our "instincts" are also used to make decisions). If one's experience embeds them more in one type of culture than another, is it surprising that they will feel more comfortable with the one that is closest to theirs; thus, birds of a feather fly together. It is factors such as these that require institutions some times to implement process that encourage diversity, otherwise it is unlikely to occur by itself (or it will occur at too slow a pace).

Bringing this to the NFL ;), if all owners are white older men, is it surprising they will feel more comfortable picking someone with whom they can connect? Again, is it surprising that GMs are going to pick someone that with communication is a simple process (not that it would be complicated with another subculture, it is just a question of which is perceived subconsciously as being easier).

Now take the NFL and blow it up to America at large (only it is worse in corporate America because merit is not as easily measured as it is in the sports field). On the plus side, as a culture, as we become more integrated, these issues become more moot, and their is no question that integration keeps growing. However, there will always be some form of prejudice. It is in our nature to differentiate, the problem is how the process of differentiation manifests itself in the community. Sadly, too often it is wrapped by ignorance and delivered with unreasoned hate.

Merlin

Or you could just say birds of a feather tend to flock together.

Real change happens when "birds" cease to recognize their differences. One day we will be all light brown wonder what we will find to feel different and superior about then?

Merlin
06-05-2005, 10:00 AM
on a side note.....one of my grandfathers had such a thick spanish accent my mom had to translate his english to me w/i was little..........and the man was a freakin racist. im just saying a person doesnt have to be white and fly a confederate battle flag to be a racist.
Latin-Americans have many examples of racism, despite their claim for moral high ground. Why do you think Argentinians think they are the cream of the crop in South America? Generally it is related to their Caucasian heritage (they consider themselves the whitest country in the south). Chileans often disparage Argentinian behaviour, but many can often be seen feeling pride about being the second "whitest" country.

On a different note, many tribes in Africa treat members of tribes they conquered in the past as subservient. Also, there are examples of slavery in some areas of Africa.

However, Europeans love to benefit from all the help they receive from immigrants, yet they deny them rights of citizenship even after living there for over a decade (and racism is clearly expressed in some political platforms). In Switzerland place of birth is irrelevant, one does not receive Swiss citizenship by being born there.

America has many flaws, and its racist history has manifested in a violent and visible manner. However, America's attempts to address these issues is/should be the envy of many.

Merlin

BRONCCRUSHFAN
06-05-2005, 10:05 AM
Or you could just say birds of a feather tend to flock together.

Real change happens when "birds" cease to recognize their differences. One day we will be all light brown wonder what we will find to feel different and superior about then?

Social class structure, but that is a completely different debate.

-Slap-
06-05-2005, 10:38 AM
I think a lot of it depends on how and where you come up in this world. My mom's family was from Detroit. They lived in a house on 23rd Street for several years. My grandmother was trying to raise five children by herself after my grandfather's untimely death, so they were essentially living at the poverty level. The neighborhood changed around them until they were basically living in a ghetto. They saw their property value plummet. Eventually things deteriorated to the point where they just walked away from the house.

This experience left my uncle Edwin very imbittered towards black people. When you lose the house you grew up in, you don't care about the societal inequities that created an underclass of people and ripple effects on the community. You simply become a racist.

Another uncle, Edwin's younger brother was in Mexico seveal years later and he was the passenger in an automobile accident. The corrupt Mexican officials dropped him off at some primitive hospital that slapped him back together in haphazard fashion. He wound up with a speech impediment, that ironically left him sounding like Mexican person struggling with English.

Unfortunately the cops decided to throw him in jail, too. My uncle Edwin hired a pilot, snuck into Mexico, bribed a couple people, eased into the hospital and basically busted his brother right out of the country. He was damned lucky not to get arrested and rot in a Mexican prison beside him. My uncle's opinions of our friends south of the border was extremely low after this incident.

There's no question my uncle was a confirmed racist. His viewpoints about groups of people were openly discussed to anyone who would listen to him. His opinions weren't passed on to him by racist ancestors, but formed by his life experences. Was he wrong? Definitely. He was also one of the best men I ever knew. Just like he risked himself to rescue his baby brother, he would have done the same thing for any member of my family. He also treated every individual the same way and I saw him show respect towards people of all colors in his dealings with them. My black and Mexican friends never knew about any negative feelings he might have harbored about groups of people because he always treated them well.

My mother opened our home to various disadvantaged young people over the years. One of them was a young black man who's basically been absorbed into our family over the last 20+ years. He was a pallbearer at my uncle's funeral several years ago. He knew about my uncle's past, because I eventually confided in him one day, and he understood what formed my uncle's racist opinions. He also saw both sides of the man and saw that inside Edwin's heart he was decent caring man who would help any person in trouble, regardless of race.

My friend also grew up dirt poor in Buffalo and was told by plenty of relatives, "never trust whitey". I'm sure many of those people had good reasons for giving him that advice, but I'm glad he didn't listen to them. He knew that, just like my uncle, a person's opinions can be formed by their experiences, but a person should not be defined solely by those opinions.

I don't condone my uncle using racist language around me as a young boy, but I forgive him. I'm glad I was reading at an early age and I was able to experience different viewpoints. Also, my mother, who grew up in the same house really didn't share my uncle's prejudices. My father, who played sports his whole life with blacks, and had a Mexican stand as best man at his wedding also gave me a better perspective on different types of people.

I guess my point with this long rambling note is that being a racist or holding racist opinions doesn't necessarily make you an evil person, or even a bad person. There's good and bad in all of us, its what we do with it that matters.

-Slap-
06-05-2005, 10:53 AM
Latin-Americans have many examples of racism, despite their claim for moral high ground. Why do you think Argentinians think they are the cream of the crop in South America? Generally it is related to their Caucasian heritage (they consider themselves the whitest country in the south). Chileans often disparage Argentinian behaviour, but many can often be seen feeling pride about being the second "whitest" country.

On a different note, many tribes in Africa treat members of tribes they conquered in the past as subservient. Also, there are examples of slavery in some areas of Africa.

However, Europeans love to benefit from all the help they receive from immigrants, yet they deny them rights of citizenship even after living there for over a decade (and racism is clearly expressed in some political platforms). In Switzerland place of birth is irrelevant, one does not receive Swiss citizenship by being born there.

America has many flaws, and its racist history has manifested in a violent and visible manner. However, America's attempts to address these issues is/should be the envy of many.

Merlin

The old Olympic Auditorium in Los Angeles was home to many great boxing matches over the years. Back in the late 60s/early 70s the owner died and his wife inherited the property. She knew nothing about boxing and everyone assumed she would sell her interest in the building, but instead she chose to continue staging fights.

I don't know if she understood boxing, but she definitely understood human nature and boxing cards at the Olympic reflected her beliefs. Rarely were two fighters of the same ethnicity ever matched against one another. Instead it was Mexicans against Puerto Ricans and blacks against whites and all the other possible combinations. The place was rocking every night. Occasionally someone got hit in the head with a bottle or stabbed in the parking lot, but she was tremendously successful for a long time using this matchmaking philosophy.

Archer81
06-05-2005, 11:02 AM
so its racist to want legal immigrants. i see. so the 10 million mexican immigrants who have crossed into the US since 1990 are what? all picking fruit? is our produce industry that demanding?

-Slap-
06-05-2005, 11:17 AM
so its racist to want legal immigrants. i see. so the 10 million mexican immigrants who have crossed into the US since 1990 are what? all picking fruit? is our produce industry that demanding?

There is a demand for people who will do that kind of work. You're not going to find many white or black people willing to perform that kind of repetitive, backbreaking labor.

Merlin
06-05-2005, 12:09 PM
so its racist to want legal immigrants. i see. so the 10 million mexican immigrants who have crossed into the US since 1990 are what? all picking fruit? is our produce industry that demanding?
??? :kiddingme Who stated that? Are you that poor at creating straw men or is your reading comprehension that poor?

There is a difference between inviting legal immigrants to work in your contry for a few seasons, and the implementation of policies that invite immigrants to work in your country for 5-20 yrs while denying them any possibility of citizenship. The first is frequently based on labour needs while also trying to manage the population growth of the area. Conversely the latter is often grounded on racist underpinnings. These countries are obviously not concerned with population management since the immigrants are an integral part of the system (and frequently having children in said country). But the fact that they have supported the infrastructure, contributed to the tax base, and been important members of the social system for a decade has not bearing in them getting citizenship.

As a comparison consider the policies of the States and Canada. In both cases you can apply for citizenship after 3 years of landed immigrant status (and frequently said immigrants receive their citizenship without much difficulty).

BTW, your statement clearly refers to immigration in America, whereas the immigration policies I was referring to were clearly European. A little more attention in your reading would be of value.

Merlin

Odysseus
06-05-2005, 12:38 PM
I guess my point with this long rambling note is that being a racist or holding racist opinions doesn't necessarily make you an evil person, or even a bad person. There's good and bad in all of us, its what we do with it that matters.

Some of my closet friends are racist. They are white, black, red and brown. I understand their point of view and they understand mine. I'm all about fair play and giving everyone a chance to prove who they are as people. I keep the conversation on the business of being human. I'm not afraid of love. I think most people want to believe they are fair. What makes America great is we have the basis for opportunity here whether we understand that is what it is or not. Where else in the world do you have discussions on peace? Being born here in itself is an opportunity. Everyone should travel just so they can see that.

There is a lot of hidden discrimination that is complicated and difficult to address. How do you encourage migrant workers to handle the jobs that help keep our economy competitive without burdening middle class with health and welfare issues? How do you create urban opportunities for self employment rather than reducing an opportunity to always meaning a job? How do we build industry in America and include the free trade agenda? How do you reverse 100 years of unfair advantages and business practices without penalizing the people today unfairly? There is a way to do all of this but our strength is our pride and our pride, greed, and selfishness is our weakness. We are not the only materialistic country in the world...just the richest.

Star Wars is about racism. Star Trek is about racism. Battlestar Gallactica is about racism. It is a bunch of familiar faces in costumes talking about the boogie man in the back of everything that is uniquely American. It is very old wound that is in every step we make. I don't know what the answers are. I think it remains like the question a choice each of us must make each day. I used to say we use the rule of logic, the rule of science but even that can be corrupted or deception.

The only fix is time. The only answer is patience. The only course is taking another whack at it....just one more time. It's an internal and external struggle where the only conversation is from me to me. Nobody else is listening. They have their own conversations.

I spent some time growing up around 7 mile / 8 mile. I've seen a little. What they did in Detroit was bad for everyone and it just kept getting worst. I don't blame anyone for being bitter or angry.

ZachKC
06-05-2005, 12:54 PM
I had the fortunate or unfortunate pleasure (depending on your point of view), to have been on every Continent in the world besides Antarctica and Europe. I don't know....this just struck me as funny.

ZachKC
06-05-2005, 01:06 PM
I worked for a good amount of time serving tables at a Country Club and I would like to report that racism is alive and well. Alot of people say things like "we have come a long ways over the past 40 years" and "there are other places that are a lot worse" and I agree with them but I am also not interested in catering to the lowest common denominator.

Some of the things that would come out of these people was disgusting. It is one of the reasons I stopped working there. These are people that own large companies...supervise large amounts of people and hire people.

Makes you think...

Archer81
06-06-2005, 01:01 AM
no one is denying them citizenship. if you avoid the process to begin with, how badly do you want to be a citizen of the country you are working for? illegal immigration pulls down the minimum wage, actually hurting workers who were 1. born here or 2. came here legally.

bronco militia
11-05-2012, 02:25 PM
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ludo21
11-05-2012, 02:32 PM
the good ol days when Slap posted.... and rascal for that matter

beardedwonder
11-05-2012, 02:35 PM
white people love wayne brady because he makes bryant gumbel look like malcolm X

gunns
11-05-2012, 02:45 PM
the good ol days when Slap posted.... and rascal for that matter

No doubt.

I'm shocked Terry Bradshaw would be so dumb. Just shocked.

Archer81
11-05-2012, 02:50 PM
Early sirhcyennek81 posts. Without the :Broncos:. Interesting.


:Broncos:

Pick Six
11-05-2012, 02:52 PM
My cat is a racist, he hates the Rottie down the street.

God he loves to tease that dog. If that dog ever gets ahold of him again, he's going to rip him apart. He's allready had one go around, I don't know if you remember, but I said Beezlebub was ambulatory.

He's fine, but what am I going to do.

I will just go out to the cat farm and get another. I'm rather attached to this one, but he's expendable. He's stone cold crazy.

I wouldn't mind having a dog, but I don't have a kid to yell at right now, to yell at the dog. The whole thing is absurd. A monkey would be amusing, for about two weeks.

Cat's are very low maintainance. Just have to keep the litter box to regulation, and your all set. hell, I don't even do more than pop off the lid of their tuna cans. They have tounges.

Poopy the hisser is about 115 in human years, and ornery as Grampa Simpson.

Poopy the hisser...Newbies, this is how you do it. There will never be another Watermock...Ha!

yerner
11-05-2012, 03:06 PM
No doubt.

I'm shocked Terry Bradshaw would be so dumb. Just shocked.

wait, it's racist to say jimmy johnson was chasing a bucket of chicken?

cmhargrove
11-05-2012, 03:08 PM
I always wondered why there weren't more Chinamen in the NFL. Anyone know why?

baja
11-05-2012, 03:19 PM
I always wondered why there weren't more Chinamen in the NFL. Anyone know why?

Too much of a commute ???

Drunken.Broncoholic
11-05-2012, 03:32 PM
wait, it's racist to say jimmy johnson was chasing a bucket of chicken?

People looking for racism in the quote will ignore the fact the chicken comment had everything to do with Johnson's chicken addiction. Bradshaw had zero intention of racism. His stupidity should be questioned though. He's dumb but no racist