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SouthStndJunkie
05-28-2005, 03:20 PM
Make your predictions as to what kind of season Jerry Rice will have as a donk.

You can guess from anything such as he retires before the season, or he gets cut, or he plays and then name his specific catches/yards/TD numbers.

I will tally them up and keep track of them.

SSJ

SouthStndJunkie
05-28-2005, 03:21 PM
Put me down for 31 catches/390 yards/3 TDs

SSJ

Ballhawk
05-28-2005, 03:22 PM
The Media will start a Rice watch beginning with the first practice, and the all the attention we get this year will help to propell Rod to the HOF!

Goobzilla
05-28-2005, 03:27 PM
Jerry breaks a hip on opening day, calls Shanny a "whippersnapper", and shakes his fist at the Dolphins and yells "Hey you kids get off my lawn!"

Seriously I'd say less than 19 grabs for 175 yds and 1 TD IF he makes the final roster.

NFLBRONCO
05-28-2005, 03:27 PM
40 catches

500 yds

7 TD's

Northman
05-28-2005, 03:36 PM
32 catches, 470 yds and 3 tds.

baja
05-28-2005, 03:36 PM
37 catches @ 14yds per = 518 and 6 tds

I say this not because I think Watts will not have a good year but because I'm guessing that Rod, Ashley or Darius will miss some games and Rice will pick up the slack

SouthStndJunkie
05-28-2005, 03:38 PM
37 catches @ 14yds per = 518 and 6 tds

I would take that in a second.

SSJ

RhymesayersDU
05-28-2005, 03:41 PM
SuperBowl MVP.

Northman
05-28-2005, 03:42 PM
its just so hard to say how much Rice will contribute. if shanny plays Watts more than Rice's numbers will probably be lower. but if Watts continues to have issues catching the ball than Rice may play a larger role.

Bronco9798
05-28-2005, 03:42 PM
28 catches, 1 TD, 387 yards

crazyhorse
05-28-2005, 03:49 PM
I predict he is a shell of his former self, and will suck enough to be on the bench by mid season.

If he's not, then the WR corps of the Broncos will suck.

-Slap-
05-28-2005, 03:50 PM
32 catches, 416 yards, two touchdowns, one complaint to the media that he's being misused/not used enough.

Jason in LA
05-28-2005, 03:54 PM
If he reaches the numbers that are being posted, that'll mean Watts isn't playing well, or that there were some injuries. I'm a Rice fan, but I'm hoping for 17 catches for 200 yards. And give him 3 token TDs in garbage time so he can get his 200 TDs.

Chances are he'll be like Reed, Brooks, and the other old WRs the Broncos have signed over the years.

Bronx33
05-28-2005, 04:33 PM
Jerry breaks a hip on opening day, calls Shanny a "whippersnapper", and shakes his fist at the Dolphins and yells "Hey you kids get off my lawn!"

Seriously I'd say less than 19 grabs for 175 yds and 1 TD IF he makes the final roster.


Iam with goob on this call.............

missingnumber7
05-28-2005, 05:21 PM
I predict he puts on a jersey, helmet and cleates and contributes in ways unmeasurable to the team.

elsid13
05-28-2005, 05:22 PM
37 catchs, under 300 yards and 6 TDs, becames a short yard specialist and sub into the red zone packages

TheManeMan
05-28-2005, 05:27 PM
Less than Watts...

DBroncos4life
05-28-2005, 06:00 PM
I think he gives 110%. Number wise 10-20 catches 100-200 yards 1 or 2 tds.

Tombstone RJ
05-28-2005, 06:50 PM
He does not make the final roster. Cut city.

eddie mac
05-28-2005, 07:28 PM
24 receptions 327 yards 4td's

TheReverend
05-28-2005, 08:12 PM
I don't care if it's 0 for 0 and 0 TDs if he can show Ash and Darius how to prepare and set an example on effort and maybe share a few tips.

For the record, though, I predict 19 catches, 288 yards and 5 TDs

baja
05-28-2005, 08:35 PM
37 catches @ 14yds per = 518 and 6 tds

I say this not because I think Watts will not have a good year but because I'm guessing that Rod, Ashley or Darius will miss some games and Rice will pick up the slack

Connecticut Bronco Fan
05-28-2005, 09:59 PM
He has his best year in awhile, with 55 catches, 842 yards ( 15.5 per catch ) and 8 TD's. Rice gets Three TD in the first 2 bronco games.

Odysseus
05-29-2005, 12:01 AM
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_2763098

Golden oldies
Here are 10 athletes who were still going strong after turning 40:

1. Gordie Howe
Played professional hockey until he was 52. In his last season, he played in all 80 of the Hartford Whalers' games. The most points he scored was in 1968-69, when he racked up 103 for the Detroit Red Wings - at age 41.

2. George Blanda

Blanda played pro football from 1949-75, longer than any other player. In 1970, at 43, he led the Raiders to four wins and a tie with his last-second heroics. He played his final NFL game at 48.

3. Jerry Rice

The NFL's all-time leading receiver and newest Bronco turns 43 on Oct. 13. In 2002, at 40, Rice had a 92-catch, 1,211-yard season and helped lead the Raiders to Super Bowl XXXVII.

4. George Foreman

On Nov. 5, 1994, at age 45, more than two decades after losing the "Rumble in the Jungle" to Muhammad Ali, Foreman knocked out Michael Moorer, 26, to win the heavyweight boxing title. Foreman retired in 1997 with a pro record of 76-5 with 68 knockouts.

5. Nolan Ryan

The all-time major-league strikeout king played from 1966-93 and recorded his 5,000th strikeout in 1989 at age 42. On July 11, 1990, he became the oldest pitcher to throw a no-hitter, against the Oakland A's. He threw another one the next season. Ryan won the ERA title at 40 and led the league in strikeouts at 41.

6. Warren Spahn

Just five days after turning 40, Spahn, pitching for the Milwaukee Braves, threw a no-hitter against the Giants. That season, he went 21-13 and led the National League with a 3.02 ERA. Spahn went 23-7 with a 2.60 ERA at age 42.

7. Martina Navratilova

Arguably the greatest female tennis player in history - she won 18 career major singles titles - she kept on rockin' well into her 40s. At age 46, she won mixed doubles titles in 2003 at the Australian Open and Wimbledon. Last year, at 47, she returned to singles, and in her first singles match at Wimbledon in 10 years, she pummeled Catalina Castano 6-0, 6-1 in 47 minutes.

8. Jack Nicklaus

In 1980, at 40, Nicklaus won the U.S. Open and the PGA Championship. At 42, he finished second in the U.S. Open. At 43, he finished second in the PGA. But the highlight of the Golden Bear's golden 40s came in 1986, when, at 46, he came from behind on the final day to win his sixth green jacket at the Masters.

9. Babe Didrikson Zaharias

One of the greatest all-around athletes in history, Zaharias began her career on the amateur golf tour in 1934. She was one of the founding members of the LPGA in 1950. Didrikson was still at the top of her game in 1953 when she was diagnosed with rectal cancer and underwent surgery. The next year she was back on the LPGA tour and won the 1954 U.S. Open by a record 12 strokes at age 43. By 1955 the cancer reappeared in her spine and she retired from sports permanently. She died Sept. 27, 1956, at 45.

10. Carlton Fisk

Playing catcher in the major leagues is a brutal profession. But in 1991, at 43, Fisk caught 106 games, hit 18 home runs and drove in 74 runs for the Chicago White Sox. From the ages of 40 to 43, he caught an average of almost 100 games a season. Fisk also hit 72 home runs after he turned 40.

(P Saunders tripe)

I wish Jerry Rice all the best.

Atlas
05-29-2005, 06:00 AM
21 catches 356 yards and 3 tds

watermock
05-29-2005, 06:45 AM
30 catches 400 yards 5 TD's.

Tombstone RJ
05-29-2005, 06:51 AM
I don't care if it's 0 for 0 and 0 TDs if he can show Ash and Darius how to prepare and set an example on effort and maybe share a few tips.

For the record, though, I predict 19 catches, 288 yards and 5 TDs

People seem to be forgetting that Rod Smith can show Ash and Darius how to prepare for games and Rod can set an example on effort too.

rbackfactory80
05-29-2005, 11:11 AM
37 catches @ 14yds per = 518 and 6 tds

I say this not because I think Watts will not have a good year but because I'm guessing that Rod, Ashley or Darius will miss some games and Rice will pick up the slack

52 catches 658 yards 4 touchdowns. ????????

-Slap-
05-29-2005, 11:30 AM
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_2763098

Golden oldies
Here are 10 athletes who were still going strong after turning 40:

1. Gordie Howe
2. George Blanda
3. Jerry Rice
4. George Foreman
5. Nolan Ryan
6. Warren Spahn
7. Martina Navratilova
8. Jack Nicklaus
9. Babe Didrikson Zaharias
10. Carlton Fisk

Roberto Duran has to be on that list somewhere. He fought past his 50th birthday and probably only retired because of a serious injuries sustained in an automobile accident.

http://coxscorner.tripod.com/Images/duranltchamp.jpg

In his prime, he was the best pound for pound fighter who ever lived.

Pendejo
05-29-2005, 11:36 AM
Roberto Duran has to be on that list somewhere. He fought past his 50th birthday and probably only retired because of a serious injuries sustained in an automobile accident.

http://coxscorner.tripod.com/Images/duranltchamp.jpg

In his prime, he was the best pound for pound fighter who ever lived.

The best pound for pound fighter who ever quit.

After regaining his title, Leonard said, "To make a man quit, to make a Roberto Duran quit, was better than knocking him out."

He was great, but not the best. The best never quit.

-Slap-
05-29-2005, 11:57 AM
The best pound for pound fighter who ever quit.

After regaining his title, Leonard said, "To make a man quit, to make a Roberto Duran quit, was better than knocking him out."

He was great, but not the best. The best never quit.

Leonard and Mike Trainer knew Duran spent three months partying non stop after Roberto jumped two weight classes and kicked the living piss out of Ray in Montreal. They lured him in the ring quickly, Roberto got sick and Leonard did some classless taunting in a forgettable fight. Big deal. I don't think any less of Roberto for that fight than I do of Ray for his wife beating and coke habit. Unlike Leonard, Roberto wasn't able to use his fame to manipulate and orchestrate his career with such precision. He was still a greater fighter and a better man.

Duran only lost once in his first 70 bouts. He dropped a ten round to Esteben De Jesus in 1972. Duran avenged the loss with a knockout two years later. When De Jesus died later, penniless from AIDS, it was Roberto Duran who paid for his funeral.

Ironically, Hector Camacho beat both men in their final bouts, eking out a 12 round decision over Duran 2001 after mopping the ring in five beautiful rounds against Leonard in 1997.

http://www.sapere.it/tc/img/Sport/Boxe3/Duran/robduran1.jpg

bilrob
05-29-2005, 01:40 PM
It doesn't make any differance when Rice will be inserted into the game, it will depend on the situation. Red Zone, Third and Long etc. He will make a clutch catch from time to time and get his share of TDs. The best reason for him on the squad is his example of a work ethic. I can see it now. "Watts, get out there with Rice and work along side of him and do what he does. Stay as long as he does and try to out do him" Rice will be a mentor to guys like Watts, and some of the younger players. He is a valuable pickup.

BroncoInferno
05-29-2005, 02:04 PM
Leonard and Mike Trainer knew Duran spent three months partying non stop after Roberto jumped two weight classes and kicked the living piss out of Ray in Montreal. They lured him in the ring quickly, Roberto got sick and Leonard did some classless taunting in a forgettable fight. Big deal. I don't think any less of Roberto for that fight than I do of Ray for his wife beating and coke habit. Unlike Leonard, Roberto wasn't able to use his fame to manipulate and orchestrate his career with such precision. He was still a greater fighter and a better man.

Duran only lost once in his first 70 bouts. He dropped a ten round to Esteben De Jesus in 1972. Duran avenged the loss with a knockout two years later. When De Jesus died later, penniless from AIDS, it was Roberto Duran who paid for his funeral.

Ironically, Hector Camacho beat both men in their final bouts, eking out a 12 round decision over Duran 2001 after mopping the ring in five beautiful rounds against Leonard in 1997.

http://www.sapere.it/tc/img/Sport/Boxe3/Duran/robduran1.jpg

And Duran carried himself with class leading up to and during their first fight? Duran spit at Leonard's sister, called his wife unspeakable things, refused Leonard's congratulatory hand at the end of the fight with a big "**** you"...yeah, real classy guy. He was a great fighter. He was also a massive tool, and he deserved every bit of Leonard's taunting in the second fight. Duran used psycological tactics to lure Leonard out of his fight plan the first go-round. He got Leonard to fight on his terms, in a street fight. Leonard turned the tables in the second fight and made Duran have a nervous breakdown in the middle of the ring. The prick deserved every bit of it. Almost as fun was watching Tommy Hearns knock him silly with one of his devastating rights a couple of years later.

And for the record, I'm not a big Leonard fan. His so-called "wins" over Hagler and Hearns (the second fight) were nothing short of robbery.

BroncoInferno
05-29-2005, 02:07 PM
On Rice: I hope it's along the lines of 20 catches. Otherwise, it will mean that either Darius isn't playing well or that one of the top three guys is hurt.

Pendejo
05-29-2005, 02:45 PM
Leonard and Mike Trainer knew Duran spent three months partying non stop after Roberto jumped two weight classes and kicked the living piss out of Ray in Montreal. They lured him in the ring quickly, Roberto got sick and Leonard did some classless taunting in a forgettable fight. Big deal. I don't think any less of Roberto for that fight than I do of Ray for his wife beating and coke habit. Unlike Leonard, Roberto wasn't able to use his fame to manipulate and orchestrate his career with such precision. He was still a greater fighter and a better man.

Duran only lost once in his first 70 bouts. He dropped a ten round to Esteben De Jesus in 1972. Duran avenged the loss with a knockout two years later. When De Jesus died later, penniless from AIDS, it was Roberto Duran who paid for his funeral.

Ironically, Hector Camacho beat both men in their final bouts, eking out a 12 round decision over Duran 2001 after mopping the ring in five beautiful rounds against Leonard in 1997.

http://www.sapere.it/tc/img/Sport/Boxe3/Duran/robduran1.jpg

I'm not saying that Duran wasn't a great fighter, but he was flawed. You can make all the excuses for him that you want. He did beat the piss out of Leonard in their first tilt, but when the tables were turned in the second go round he uttered the infamous "No mas." He quit. He knew he was beaten. You can blame Leonard for coaxing him back in the ring all you want, but the bottom line is...Duran signed on...a drunk or not...and got his hat handed to him. It's funny how you laud Duran's 3 months of hard partying then throw out Leonard being a wife beater and a coke fiend shortly there after. I guess Duran was immune to the stuff.

Anyway that's not the point. The point is when he found himself in a fight that wasn't going his way...he quit. Just like the felon Mike Tyson when Holyfield was taking him to school. I'm not saying that he's the same sort of punk that Tyson is, or even a punk at all...what I'm getting at is...When you say that Duran is the best pound for pound fighter ever...you're dismissing out of hand a lot of great pugilists who flat out didn't quit. For whatever excuse you want to make for him...Duran did. That one fight will forever tarnish his legend...maybe not in your eyes...but in the eyes of most people. And rightfully so. It was some low class sh!t.

Duran was great, but not the best ever under any kind of system of weights and measures. Pound for pound or otherwise. Obviously you're more than welcome to disagree with me as much as I disagree with you. I'll leave it at that.

rbackfactory80
05-29-2005, 02:52 PM
He will have 112 catches 1547 yards and 14 td's. :bs:

-Slap-
05-29-2005, 03:15 PM
I'm not saying that Duran wasn't a great fighter, but he was flawed. You can make all the excuses for him that you want. He did beat the piss out of Leonard in their first tilt, but when the tables were turned in the second go round he uttered the infamous "No mas." He quit. He knew he was beaten. You can blame Leonard for coaxing him back in the ring all you want, but the bottom line is...Duran signed on...a drunk or not...and got his hat handed to him. It's funny how you laud Duran's 3 months of hard partying then throw out Leonard being a wife beater and a coke fiend shortly there after. I guess Duran was immune to the stuff.

Anyway that's not the point. The point is when he found himself in a fight that wasn't going his way...he quit. Just like the felon Mike Tyson when Holyfield was taking him to school. I'm not saying that he's the same sort of punk that Tyson is, or even a punk at all...what I'm getting at is...When you say that Duran is the best pound for pound fighter ever...you're dismissing out of hand a lot of great pugilists who flat out didn't quit. For whatever excuse you want to make for him...Duran did. That one fight will forever tarnish his legend...maybe not in your eyes...but in the eyes of most people. And rightfully so. It was some low class sh!t.

Duran was great, but not the best ever under any kind of system of weights and measures. Pound for pound or otherwise. Obviously you're more than welcome to disagree with me as much as I disagree with you. I'll leave it at that.

I didn't laud Duran for his three month bender. I said that Leonard and Mike Trainer pounced on the opportunity to catch him out of shape. Just like they waited until Marvin was shot. Just like they made Tommy endure eight years of Leonard's taunts, and thought he was washed up, before giving him a rematch.

I merely mentioned Leonard's drug and spousal abuse problems because he was always a teflon athlete and he remains that way today.

-Slap-
05-29-2005, 03:22 PM
And Duran carried himself with class leading up to and during their first fight? Duran spit at Leonard's sister, called his wife unspeakable things, refused Leonard's congratulatory hand at the end of the fight with a big "**** you"...yeah, real classy guy. He was a great fighter. He was also a massive tool, and he deserved every bit of Leonard's taunting in the second fight. Duran used psycological tactics to lure Leonard out of his fight plan the first go-round. He got Leonard to fight on his terms, in a street fight. Leonard turned the tables in the second fight and made Duran have a nervous breakdown in the middle of the ring. The prick deserved every bit of it. Almost as fun was watching Tommy Hearns knock him silly with one of his devastating rights a couple of years later.

And for the record, I'm not a big Leonard fan. His so-called "wins" over Hagler and Hearns (the second fight) were nothing short of robbery.

For the record, I believe he spat at Ray and called Ray's wife a whore. Good for him. Nobody deserved that kind of treatment more than Ray Leonard.

I always laugh when people say that Duran dragged Leonard into a street brawl in the first fight. Here's El Cholo, who spent his entire career at 135 pounds, he skips the junior welterweight division entirely and moves up to challenge Leonard at welterweight, but then he's outslugging the natural 147 pounder? Anybody else see the humor in this?

dbroncos31
05-29-2005, 06:23 PM
110 catches, 1475 yards, 17 Tds.









oh seriously...
39 catches, 510 yards, 6 TDs, two of which will win us games in the final two minutes..

dbroncos31
05-29-2005, 06:25 PM
It doesn't make any differance when Rice will be inserted into the game, it will depend on the situation. Red Zone, Third and Long etc. He will make a clutch catch from time to time and get his share of TDs. The best reason for him on the squad is his example of a work ethic. I can see it now. "Watts, get out there with Rice and work along side of him and do what he does. Stay as long as he does and try to out do him" Rice will be a mentor to guys like Watts, and some of the younger players. He is a valuable pickup.
imagine being a 2nd year WR (like Watts) and being tutored by Jerry Rice and Rod Smith. it would be heaven. If Watts isn't amazing after having teachers like this, i will be angry. and you won't like me when i'm angry.

Atlas
05-30-2005, 08:58 AM
The best pound for pound fighter who ever quit.

After regaining his title, Leonard said, "To make a man quit, to make a Roberto Duran quit, was better than knocking him out."

He was great, but not the best. The best never quit.

He has spent his whole carreer trying to live down that one moment. As great a fighter as he was too bad that's what he is going to be remembered for.

Arkie
05-30-2005, 09:08 AM
25 catches, 300 yards, 6 TDs