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DBroncos4life
05-27-2005, 09:35 PM
Broncos | Myers Working at Center - from www.KFFL.com
Fri, 27 May 2005 12:22:12 -0700
Lee Rasizer, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports Denver Broncos rookie OL Chris Myers has been working at center during practice. Myers also has been practicing the past two weeks at long snapper, a position he has not manned since high school.
Broncos | Lelie Working on Intermediate Routes - from www.KFFL.com
Fri, 27 May 2005 12:18:06 -0700
Lee Rasizer, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports Denver Broncos WR Ashley Lelie is working on running more intermediate routes in practice. Last season he compiled 21 plays of 20-plus yards and led the league by averaging 20.1 yards on 54 catches. Lelie seldom has been a factor inside the 20 and teams were catching on to his ability to go long. "Playing against a lot of defenses toward the end of the year, they kind of knew that's what I did and they'd back up way off me and take me out of the game, just by playing that type of defense," he said. "They knew I wasn't going to get any slants or 'unders' like that."
Broncos | LeSueur Switching to Safety - from www.KFFL.com
Fri, 27 May 2005 12:16:35 -0700
Updating a previous report, the Rocky Mountain News reports Denver Broncos CB Jeremy LeSueur is moving to safety. The move is not a big deal for him because when he was drafted in the third round in 2003, some teams had him pegged as a safety. LeSueur will still slide to cornerback in certain nickel situations. He missed all of last season with a hernia. LeSueur said he still experiences some "normal" soreness from hernia surgery in September.
Kaylore
05-27-2005, 09:40 PM
LeSueur said he still experiences some "normal" soreness from hernia surgery in September.
I had hernia surgery and know what he's talking about. It never 100% goes away, but gets very very mild and very seldom. He'll be fine.
SoCalBronco
05-27-2005, 09:43 PM
thanks DB.
Cito Pelon
05-27-2005, 09:44 PM
LeSueur, doesn't he have a nickname? That name is too hard to type.
He's gonna be just plain 31 to me from now on.
DBroncos4life
05-27-2005, 09:45 PM
LeSueur, doesn't he have a nickname? That name is too hard to type.
He's gonna be just plain 31 to me from now on.
He is one of the players that I always have to go look up to see if Im spelling it wrong and every time I do misspell it.
Clockwork Orange
05-27-2005, 09:46 PM
If Lelie actually becomes a capable receiver in intermediate routes he'll be in the Pro Bowl at the end of the year. With his deep speed and the rules regulating CBs, he's going to find himself open quite a bit underneath.
SoCalBronco
05-27-2005, 09:46 PM
LeSueur, doesn't he have a nickname? That name is too hard to type.
He's gonna be just plain 31 to me from now on.
Several nicknames:
LeSewer
The Sewer
Le Bust
He better make an impact this year. One of the few blemishes of the 2004 class.
DBroncos4life
05-27-2005, 09:46 PM
thanks DB.
I wonder if this means that Myers will be the future center for the team. What are your thoughts about this?
Clockwork Orange
05-27-2005, 09:51 PM
Seemed to me that Ben Hamilton was always considered the future center after Nalen is gone.
Myers is a versatile guy. He'll play multiple positions just like he did in college. It's what makes him a nice fit for this team.
SoCalBronco
05-27-2005, 09:52 PM
I wonder if this means that Myers will be the future center for the team. What are your thoughts about this?
He can be a good center or guard. Personally i like him at guard better, but i read somewhere he likes center the best. I am interested in what 77OlineDad has to say on this, he is a much more informed on this than me, obviously. But i liked Chris at center and guard, not so much at tackle though, either one is fine. I know you strongly feel your boy is a much better center prospect than guard prospect and that would be fine since i like Myers at guard better. I could see Hamilton, Sewell and Myers being the interior for the future and that would be cool. Now that Alexander got hurt, both Myers and Sewell are locks to make the team now, though.
DivineLegion
05-27-2005, 09:54 PM
I would like to take this time to thank everyone who posts news...thank you...
DBroncos4life
05-27-2005, 10:10 PM
I would like to take this time to thank everyone who posts news...thank you...
no problem man. I feel the same way that you do for those that do it as well.
DBroncos4life
05-27-2005, 10:13 PM
He can be a good center or guard. Personally i like him at guard better, but i read somewhere he likes center the best. I am interested in what 77OlineDad has to say on this, he is a much more informed on this than me, obviously. But i liked Chris at center and guard, not so much at tackle though, either one is fine. I know you strongly feel your boy is a much better center prospect than guard prospect and that would be fine since i like Myers at guard better. I could see Hamilton, Sewell and Myers being the interior for the future and that would be cool. Now that Alexander got hurt, both Myers and Sewell are locks to make the team now, though.
I guess we will have to see. Sewell did play guard before coming to NU though. I think he started some at guard as well while at NU but he played his senior year at center. He improved so much over that year too. Hes pretty smart and strong so Im sure he could make the move in the NFL. I just want to see him play.
KillerBronco#76
05-27-2005, 10:35 PM
I had hernia surgery and know what he's talking about. It never 100% goes away, but gets very very mild and very seldom. He'll be fine.
Yea i had a hernia surgery, a acl repair and a medial miniscus repair all in the same offseason.
it sucked but i was ready to go by the next season although i wasnt even as strong as i was sophmore year but i still was 3rd on the team in tackles playing a 3-4 de. so i didnt do so bad
ClevelandBronco2
05-27-2005, 10:43 PM
LeSueur, doesn't he have a nickname?
Baby Peas
Clockwork Orange
05-27-2005, 10:45 PM
Yea i had a hernia surgery, a acl repair and a medial miniscus repair all in the same offseason.
Are you Courtney Brown?
watermock
05-28-2005, 12:16 AM
Lot's of things are tried this time of year. The thinking might be that right now, Hamilton moving to center if Nalen gets hurt would create a bigger hole than sticking Myers in there.
But I suspect they are giving him a long look at long snapping. If he's good, that frees up a roster spot, possibly to keep that 7th round kicker as a KO specialist and emergency punter/fg. Good for us, bad for Leach.
Paladin
05-28-2005, 01:31 AM
One thing that can be noted is that if he is able to play more than one position and long snap, too, he could be tagged as an athletic fellow. Sounds like he fits the Broncos' mold for a solid role player. Maybe more, depending. Good choice.
They come to camp next Wednesday. Maybe we will get more of a sense of who will be where then. Gads. The Camp is not too far away, is it?
chrisp
05-28-2005, 02:12 AM
I'm intrigued about the center position. Clearly Nalen's the man, and may yet have a few more years than we think, but you have to think that the Broncos are looking to have a replacement lined up.
Everyone seems to think that Hamilton will be that replacement in the long term, however I remember reading something here from Wabbit in the past which gave me the impression that this is not necesarily the thinking inside Dove valley.
You would certainly think that at 283 lbs Hamilton would be a better fit for Center than guard, but having said that, since his rookie year subbing for an injured Nalen at center he's seen all his playing time at Guard and done a pretty good job there too - maybe its his performance as a guard that has guided the coaches thinking rather than his suitability for center?
Although I've always been one to suggest that "size doesn't matter" and whilst the Broncos line will always be one of the lightest in the league, it did start to concern me a couple of seasons ago that the average weight was soooooo far off even some of the smaller lines in the league. In 2003, Ephraim Salaam was the ONLY guy we had OVER 290lbs whereas most lines didn't have ANYONE under 300! Now Foster alone has upped that average, and you only have to look at the size of the backups we have in camp this year to see that the line is definitley going to get bigger in the long term, but the old adage still applies that if you're good enough you're big enough, so it could just be that the broncos coaches see Hamilton having a long and successful career as a starting guard and therefore want to try out other options as the backup center.
All these musings aside, its probably too early to draw any conclusions from where Myers lines up at the moment. He was, after all, drafted for his versatility, so maybe the biggest issue right now is not which O-line position he's backing up, but whether or not he can do the long-snapper role? If he can, its goodbye Mike Leach and hello extra roster spot to play with! (assuming of course that Myers isn't a total liability as a backup guard/center, which hopefully is not the case)
Odysseus
05-28-2005, 02:53 AM
If Lelie actually becomes a capable receiver in intermediate routes he'll be in the Pro Bowl at the end of the year. With his deep speed and the rules regulating CBs, he's going to find himself open quite a bit underneath.
I think if he gets utilized smarter he has all the tools to do that. Having him and Darius switch routes every now and again isn't a bad idea.
eddie mac
05-28-2005, 02:57 AM
Look at the current roster to see the shift. Of the 15 offensive linemen currently on the roster 66% are over the 300lb mark. Although 4 of our projected starters are under the mark.
79 Sewell, Josh C 6' 2" 301
73 Spikes, Cameron G 6' 4" 313
62 Myers, Chris G 6' 4" 300
60 Hicks, Reese G 6' 6" 318
63 Stuber, Tim G 6' 5" 315
70 Clabo, Tyson G 6' 6" 314
67 Clement, Anthony T 6' 8" 337
72 Foster, George T 6' 5" 338
64 Pears, Erik T 6' 8" 315
74 Green, Cornell T 6' 6" 315
66 Nalen, Tom C 6' 3" 286
69 Alexander, P.J. G 6' 4" 297
50 Hamilton, Ben G/C 6' 4" 283
65 Carlisle, Cooper G/T 6' 5" 295
78 Lepsis, Matt T 6' 4" 290
watermock
05-28-2005, 04:14 AM
Looks like we have to sort out the wheat from the chaf. I'm not thrilled with this line, but imagine the angst if Hamilton and Cooper both left now that Alexander has pulled a Soulja!
I don't think this Clemett guy is a bad signing, nor Spikes post Alexander. Considering our cap situation, I think we have done just about all we could of.
Needa Pass Rush
05-28-2005, 06:23 AM
Yea i had a hernia surgery, a acl repair and a medial miniscus repair all in the same offseason.
it sucked but i was ready to go by the next season although i wasnt even as strong as i was sophmore year but i still was 3rd on the team in tackles playing a 3-4 de. so i didnt do so bad
Was the meniscus tear on the same knee as the acl? That would be pretty typical. If not, which injury bothers you more today, the meniscus or acl?
KillerBronco#76
05-28-2005, 09:33 AM
yea they were both in the same knee, the miniscus tear was wierd cause it was in a spot wear they could repair it instead of taking out the torn part like they ususaly do.
The Miniscus tear deffinatley caused me the most pain while rehabing cause tons of scar tissue built up so i coudnt move my knee, so my trainer layed me on a table took my told me to hold on to the edge and pushed my ankle to my ass real quick and tore all the scar tissue it was deffinatley one of the most painfull experiences iv ever been thru. But i dont have any problems with it now.
The acl tear probley affects me the most today just because my knee is numb on left side, and realy sensitive right around where they put the screw but as far as making cuts and stuff i never had any problems i came out faster and more agile than before the surgery so i dont get all this it takes 2 years to fully recover stuff, i guess fore some people its more of a mental aspect of it that makes it hard for them to make cuts and plant off that leg. mentaly it wasnt a problem although you gain some confidence after you take that first hit to your knee.
clarker
05-28-2005, 09:41 AM
Look at the current roster to see the shift. Of the 15 offensive linemen currently on the roster 66% are over the 300lb mark. Although 4 of our projected starters are under the mark.
79 Sewell, Josh C 6' 2" 301
73 Spikes, Cameron G 6' 4" 313
62 Myers, Chris G 6' 4" 300
60 Hicks, Reese G 6' 6" 318
63 Stuber, Tim G 6' 5" 315
70 Clabo, Tyson G 6' 6" 314
67 Clement, Anthony T 6' 8" 337
72 Foster, George T 6' 5" 338
64 Pears, Erik T 6' 8" 315
74 Green, Cornell T 6' 6" 315
66 Nalen, Tom C 6' 3" 286
69 Alexander, P.J. G 6' 4" 297
50 Hamilton, Ben G/C 6' 4" 283
65 Carlisle, Cooper G/T 6' 5" 295
78 Lepsis, Matt T 6' 4" 290I hope Myers pans out so we can get rid of Hamilton. I can't stand that guy. If he were a rubber, Jake Plummer would have knocked up half of Denver last year because he offers no protection.
I heard that Hamilton is in line to take over for Nalen someday, but I hope not.
plummershelper
05-28-2005, 09:47 AM
I hope Myers pans out so we can get rid of Hamilton. I can't stand that guy. If he were a rubber, Jake Plummer would have knocked up half of Denver last year because he offers no protection.
I heard that Hamilton is in line to take over for Nalen someday, but I hope not.
If he were a rubber, Jake Plummer would have knocked up half of Denver last year because he offers no protection.
Ha!! REP
RhymesayersDU
05-28-2005, 09:53 AM
Several nicknames:
LeSewer
The Sewer
Le Bust
He better make an impact this year. One of the few blemishes of the 2004 class.
Beat me to it.
Billy Clyde Puckett
05-28-2005, 10:31 AM
If he were a rubber, Jake Plummer would have knocked up half of Denver last year because he offers no protection.
Ha!! REP
Well I guess you guys know more than the coaching staff since they have graded out Hamiltion as thier number one OL the last two years.
minibronco
05-28-2005, 11:06 AM
thanks for the news
watermock
05-28-2005, 11:23 AM
Other than a little smallish, Hamilton has just continued to get better and better. He's had a few holding penalites, but ask any QB about that one.
I thought Lepsis graded out extremely well in addition. Foster improved dramatically, but is still struggling at times in pass protection. That's just what I saw. I'm no expert on the OL. It's better than given credit for. The typical dimwit on the east coast will just say one of two things: Denver cheats, or Denver cheats.
Just because our OL isn't the size to pound it down throats in the redzone, is NOT the root problem of our redzone problems.
Yes, it would be nice to have some clodhoppers in the redzone, but you give up other things. I imagine the strategy was to go nintendo because of a lack of confidence in the OL in the redzone, but I simply don't agree with that.
Rascal
05-28-2005, 11:46 AM
Unfortunately I think Lepsis is on the down slope of his career. Because of his stature he relies on is quickness and athletic ability, and due to his age that is going to become a problem in future years. Hopefully 2006 draft will answer that for us.
While I've heard numerous good things about Clabo, Sewell, and Myers I've yet to see anything on the field. So I'll with hold judgment on them until later. I don't have any trust in Carlisle.
Atlas
05-28-2005, 11:49 AM
Unfortunately I think Lepsis is on the down slope of his career. Because of his stature he relies on is quickness and athletic ability, and due to his age that is going to become a problem in future years. Hopefully 2006 draft will answer that for us.
While I've heard numerous good things about Clabo, Sewell, and Myers I've yet to see anything on the field. So I'll with hold judgment on them until later. I don't have any trust in Carlisle.
HE also relies on technique and good footwork which should be just fine. There is no reason to think Lepsis can't play 12 years in this league. He has always been pretty much injury free.
watermock
05-28-2005, 11:56 AM
I've never said we might look at a franchise LT next year. The fact is, I didn't see Lepsis as a major weakness at all, especially moving over from first TE to RT then LT. Shanahan said he graded out well, and man, they guy is hardly a franchise LT.
Considering teams like to throw an athletic RDE at our LT, I thought he graded out better than I anticipated.
Since I said Foster was really a RT, and is finally grading out as "adequate" in that spot, I say keep him there. He matches up against bigger LDE's better IMO and is finally getting the position down.
Clockwork Orange
05-28-2005, 11:59 AM
Unfortunately I think Lepsis is on the down slope of his career. Because of his stature he relies on is quickness and athletic ability, and due to his age that is going to become a problem in future years. Hopefully 2006 draft will answer that for us.
The 2006 draft is precisely what can answer that for the Broncos. It's a bumper crop of tackles with at least 4 looking like sure fire 1st rounders.
That additional 1st rounder from Washington could end up being one of them.
Odysseus
05-28-2005, 12:11 PM
no problem man. I feel the same way that you do for those that do it as well.
Football news is ALWAYS good stuff. Thanks.
Odysseus
05-28-2005, 12:20 PM
The 2006 draft is precisely what can answer that for the Broncos. It's a bumper crop of tackles with at least 4 looking like sure fire 1st rounders.
That additional 1st rounder from Washington could end up being one of them.
This would be a great move by the Broncos. Wow! :thumbsup:
What else is strong in next year's draft?
Rascal
05-28-2005, 12:30 PM
Well let's think about it. Denver as never been a team that puts in a rookie (except DJ) and it usually takes 2-3 years for them to do really well in our system (expecially offensively).
So looking at each position:
Offense:
LT-Lepsis. He is in his 8th year and should probably have 2 more years at least of top play. A replacement should be thought about especially in this critical position. 2006 has a bunch of good tackles available. A rookie would be good to get here and train for next two years to replace him.
LG-C-RG-Ben Hamilton, Nalen, Carlisle. Hamilton is also the heir apparent to Nalen's spot who has about 1-2 years left, and I have zero confidence in Carlisle. Myers, Clabo, Sewell are all young guys being developed for the guard spots so the future should be secure. Although getting some veteran talent next year or another rookie is never out of the question.
Foster-is in his second year and if he develops into the player he should be that position is secure.
TE-Putzier is in his third year and still developing so that position is secure should he develop as expected.
RB-Bell, Q, and Clarett. All young a capable. Good to go, although another pick in 2006 is expected.
FB-Kyle Johnson. A question mark here, but seems to be on the right track. Should he become 1/2 of griffith was then we are good to go.
QB-Plummer. I honestly expect us to draft a QB next year and start to groom as his replacement and to push him in future years.
WR-Rod, Lelie, Watts. Rod is getting long in the tooth and probably has 2 years of his old self remaining before we see a decline. Lelie is a good long threat, while Watts still needs development. Drafting another WR or picking up a good young WR would be good move.
Defense:
D-line: Pryce, ???. This unit needs some more attention next year (Rodrique Wright anyone). Assuming at least one brown pans out and we retain them for future years, we still need two positions and one future one as pryce is getting old.
LB's. DJ is young and good to go, and if Gold pans out that position should be okay. Wilson is getting up there in age. Although he should be good for several more years.
Secondary: Champ is golden and hopefully we can retain Walls next year. If not we have a stockpile of rookies to hopefully replace him. Lynch is almost done so a replacement is needed here (Fergy more then likely if he can withstand the abuse), so a FS is needed. Hopefully Leseuer or that rookie can handle it. An upgrade will probably be needed here next year.
So, based on that. We could use some attention at RT, QB, WR, D-line, safety for next year.
Based on the talent in that draft I think we would be best served to address our lines as it stands now (a lot of talent). Getting a legit tackle on both sides would be good and address two areas of concern for the future. So yes, getting a replacement for Lepsis in training would be a good idea.
watermock
05-28-2005, 01:01 PM
IMO, if Hamilton is due to move to center, drafting a LT and letting him learn guard first isn't a bad move.
I think Jake has a pretty hefty tag in a couple years, If Shanny is sold on some QB, then git er done. Otherwise, another Tackle or DT is in the works. We can find a safety.
When certain players go down as a few certainly will, and we cut some slackers, as we will, the route in a big draft will be clearer, but don't even expect to predict a Denver pick. T.J. picked Foster, who I said wasn't an L.T., but at least he got it right.
Next year, drafting some Soulja's should be interesting. That's the last thing on my mind, it's sorting thru the trash we allready have at this point, trying to find that golden ring.
Clockwork Orange
05-28-2005, 01:02 PM
What else is strong in next year's draft?
D-line. Mathias Kiwanuka & Rodrique Wright would have both been top 10 picks had they come out last year and that's where they'll be picked next year. Orien Harris & Gabe Watson are likely 1st rounders. If Mario Williams comes out he'll probably be a top 10 pick. If Haloti Ngata comes out he'll be a 1st rounder.
Plenty of talent to be had. It's shaping up to be a pretty good year to have two 1st rounders. :yep:
watermock
05-28-2005, 01:15 PM
I agree, having a monster pass rush is paramount with the new rules, but lets see what we have in our flock of DL before we go that route.
If we get a bunch of 4F's, then we pounce on a dominant DT like a Kevin Williams if available.
It's awful early to discuss the 2006 draft, but we might get a high pick, or two if we suck this year. My prediction is around #7 and #28.
Odysseus
05-28-2005, 02:16 PM
D-line. Mathias Kiwanuka & Rodrique Wright would have both been top 10 picks had they come out last year and that's where they'll be picked next year. Orien Harris & Gabe Watson are likely 1st rounders. If Mario Williams comes out he'll probably be a top 10 pick. If Haloti Ngata comes out he'll be a 1st rounder.
Plenty of talent to be had. It's shaping up to be a pretty good year to have two 1st rounders. :yep:
I got my wish list. Defensive Tackle and Offensive Tackle.
Thanks.
Odysseus
05-28-2005, 02:33 PM
Defense:
D-line: Pryce, ???. This unit needs some more attention next year (Rodrique Wright anyone). Assuming at least one brown pans out and we retain them for future years, we still need two positions and one future one as pryce is getting old.
Based on the talent in that draft I think we would be best served to address our lines as it stands now (a lot of talent). Getting a legit tackle on both sides would be good and address two areas of concern for the future. So yes, getting a replacement for Lepsis in training would be a good idea.
Good Takes on Offense. I would love to have a guy who has pro bowl potential at OLT. Let Lepsis season him. I like their search for the right guard combination. I'm glad they are getting some guys with size AND speed.
The Broncos are going to see what they can salvage from the Browncos and at the end of the season either pay them or draft someone. They are market value deals and smart. I would prefer an explosive defensive tackle but it depends on how the DL plays.
Pryce is going to need a bookend regardless of how he plays. Backs are tricky monsters and I would rather have three starting DE than just 1 1/2 :injured:
Ballhawk
05-28-2005, 03:15 PM
Unfortunately I think Lepsis is on the down slope of his career. Because of his stature he relies on is quickness and athletic ability, and due to his age that is going to become a problem in future years. Hopefully 2006 draft will answer that for us.
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The 2006 draft seems loaded with OTs. I really believe we go after a top guy. Of course if Clabo playts as well here as in NFLE than we could pass. I wonder if Foster will ever see the left side or if they have him penciled in as a cornerstone probowler on the right?
SpringStein
05-28-2005, 07:02 PM
The 2006 draft is precisely what can answer that for the Broncos. It's a bumper crop of tackles with at least 4 looking like sure fire 1st rounders.
That additional 1st rounder from Washington could end up being one of them.
I think there will be at least 5 tackles, and maybe 6, taken in the first round in '06.
1 D'Brickashaw Ferguson Sr. Virginia 6-5 295
2. Marcus McNeill Sr. Auburn 6-9 340
3 Jon Scott Sr. Texas 6-6 310
4 Eric Winston Sr. Miami (Fla.) 6-6 310
5 Derek Morris Jr. NC State 6-6 335
6 Andrew Whitworth Sr. LSU 6-7 325
The top 3 will possibly be taken in the first 15 selections. Another guy I want to keep an eye on is Boston College's Jeremy Trueblood at 6' 8", 335.
clarker
05-28-2005, 10:41 PM
Other than a little smallish, Hamilton has just continued to get better and better. He's had a few holding penalites, but ask any QB about that one.
I thought Lepsis graded out extremely well in addition. Foster improved dramatically, but is still struggling at times in pass protection. That's just what I saw. I'm no expert on the OL. It's better than given credit for. The typical dimwit on the east coast will just say one of two things: Denver cheats, or Denver cheats.
Just because our OL isn't the size to pound it down throats in the redzone, is NOT the root problem of our redzone problems.
Yes, it would be nice to have some clodhoppers in the redzone, but you give up other things. I imagine the strategy was to go nintendo because of a lack of confidence in the OL in the redzone, but I simply don't agree with that.When the Broncos won the Super Bowls they were small but they were strong as an ox. Look at Schlereth when he played and looked at Hamiltion. Hamilton looked like a Tight End compared Schlereth.
Hamilton is good between the 20's when he can get in space and zone block in the running game. But on any passing down he is gets ran over almost all the time. Some times by linebackers.
No our OL not being able to pound it out down on the goal line is not the sole reason for the red zone problems,but it doesn't help any way. Down on the goal line is where the Broncos missed Shannon Sharpe the most on the field.(and 3 rd downs.)
When the Broncos won the Super Bowls they were small but they were strong as an ox. Look at Schlereth when he played and looked at Hamiltion. Hamilton looked like a Tight End compared Schlereth.
Hamilton is good between the 20's when he can get in space and zone block in the running game. But on any passing down he is gets ran over almost all the time. Some times by linebackers.
No our OL not being able to pound it out down on the goal line is not the sole reason for the red zone problems,but it doesn't help any way. Down on the goal line is where the Broncos missed Shannon Sharpe the most on the field.(and 3 rd downs.)
That's 100% about Sharpe I have wondred what our season would have been like had Sharpe played
clarker
05-28-2005, 10:50 PM
That's 100% about Sharpe I have wondred what our season would have been like had Sharpe playedI don't know what their over all record would have been with Sharpe, because they had the same record with him as they did last year.
But look what happened to Jake's INT %. I don't think the fact that Sharpe retired and Plummer's INT % went way up are unrelated.
lookin' glass
05-28-2005, 11:03 PM
I agree with you Clarker about Hamilton getting run over way too much. I love his work ethic, technique ect. but he just can't physically hold at the point of attack.
Atlas
05-29-2005, 06:04 AM
Since I said Foster was really a RT, and is finally grading out as "adequate" in that spot, I say keep him there. He matches up against bigger LDE's better IMO and is finally getting the position down.
It's only Foster's second year in the league!! Christ give the guy a break. HE played awesome last year and I look at him being the starting tackle for Denver for a long time.
chrisp
05-31-2005, 10:43 AM
I don't think we need to panic about size, our smaller, more athletic line held down the likes of Gilbert Brown and Reggie White in the super bowl. In fact, if our guys play their game right, size ends up being a problem for the big guys they go up against, because they get pretty tired by the end of the game.
But it IS worth nothing that the line of 2 years ago was actually SMALLER on average than the superbowl lines: zimmerman et al averaged roughly 290-295 at a time when the average lineman weighed 300-305, but 2 years ago our starting line averaged about 285-290 when around the league the average was more like 315-320!!! That was a bit too drastic of a discrepancy, and as someone else has also pointed out, it looks like this year the Broncos are determined to bring bigger guys into camp.
TheReverend
05-31-2005, 11:07 AM
It's only Foster's second year in the league!! Christ give the guy a break. HE played awesome last year and I look at him being the starting tackle for Denver for a long time.
Couldnt have said it better. And will the rest of you back off Hamilton? The guy is a cement block.