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Sassy
05-24-2005, 04:00 AM
...Has qualified for the Indy 500.
Does she have a chance against the men?

http://www.danicaracing.com/
Patrick out to be first female Indy winner
Mon May 23, 2005 09:17 PM ET
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By Lewis Franck
INDIANAPOLIS (Reuters) - But for a split-second wobble in practice, Danica Patrick would most likely have become the first woman to take pole position at the Indy 500.

As it is, the 23-year-old rookie will start Sunday's race in fourth position on the grid -- the best starting position by a woman in the classic American event's 89-edition history.

She is only the fourth woman to qualify for the Indy 500 and her predecessors, among many other admirers, believe she can become the first woman to win, despite a lack of experience.

"All the ingredients are in place," said Janet Guthrie, the first female driver to break the all-male barrier at Indianapolis in 1977.

"Danica is the first woman to arrive at the Speedway with top-notch equipment and the full backing of a winning team. And she has the talent and determination to make the most of her opportunity.

"Despite her inexperience at Indianapolis, there's no reason Danica can't win if she gets the right breaks on race day."

Patrick drives a Rahal Letterman Racing Panoz/Honda. The team won the Indy last year with Buddy Rice, who will miss this year's race because of a back injury.

Her car is identical to that of team mate Kenny Brack of Sweden, the 1999 champion who will start 23rd on the grid.

LONGEST RACE

Sunday will be the longest race of Patrick's career and only the fourth time she has raced her car on an oval.

She posted the fastest lap of any driver this month when she touched 229.880 mph (369.956 kph) in unofficial practice. Continued ...
Patrick had already attracted attention when she was the fastest driver in the Indianapolis Motor Speedway's rookie orientation program.
By the end of her qualifying run, on May 15, the media attention had grown to a frenzy.

Patrick made a basic error in the first turn of her four-lap, 10-mile run, calmed down and scorched through the next three laps in her 650-horsepower, open-wheel racer to qualify fourth with 227.004 mph, the best placing for a woman since Lyn St James qualified sixth in 1994.

Without that first-lap bobble, Patrick could have been the first woman on pole in the race.

"I feel like I wasted a pole car," Patrick said with steely cold eyes staring at the cameras and tape recorders of the media. "But then again, maybe I saved it."

Brazil's Tony Kanaan, in a Dallara-Honda, took pole position with 227.566 mph.

ENGLISH EXPERIENCE

Patrick left home in Roscoe, Illinois, at 16 to race Formula Fords in England. There she was spotted by Bobby Rahal, the 1986 Indy 500 winner and now co-owner of the Rahal Letterman team, during his short tenure as Jaguar's Formula One CEO and team principal.

Racing in England toughened her. "I came back every six months from England to the States. My parents kept telling me I was different every time, I'd matured or I'd changed," she said in a teleconference.

Since her stunning qualifying run American television networks have been vying for airtime with her, schoolchildren crowd outside her garage and newspapers, which cover almost exclusively NASCAR racing, have been devoting pages to the young driver.

Patrick accepts the attention with aplomb. "Going fastest and 'could have, should have, would have,' having a pole, is big news. It should be big news for any driver," she said.

She also has no regrets about appearing scantily clad in a photographic spread in a men's magazine.

"I was comfortable with it," she said. "But people are still talking about it, and that's the point of media and doing things -- you want to create a buzz and try to make people aware."




© Reuters 2005. All Rights Reserved.

Sassy
05-24-2005, 04:06 AM
Just for you guys...
(because I'm feeling generous this am) ;D

http://www.danicaracing.com/images/photos/danica-sparco.jpg

watermock
05-24-2005, 04:12 AM
Just Great. Why do I feel the "big one" is on the horizon?

Watching her stomp up and down because she didn't win the pole was scary.

A rookie female driver ranting about not having the pole. Nothing to worry about here.

Garcia Bronco
05-24-2005, 04:43 AM
Since the machine does all the work....yes she can beat anyone.

watermock
05-24-2005, 04:57 AM
That is an illusion. Open wheel is racing on the edge. I'm not saying she can't race, but simply qualifying is different than racing. I hope she makes it, but history isn't on her side.

broncogary
05-24-2005, 05:26 AM
Does she talk on the cell phone while she's driving?

Spider
05-24-2005, 05:56 AM
Women can be Rednecks also .... ;D
Slap in a CD of Hick Hop like Big and rich and gas the motor .......

Spider
05-24-2005, 05:58 AM
Just for you guys...
(because I'm feeling generous this am) ;D

http://www.danicaracing.com/images/photos/danica-sparco.jpg
Damn she is fine .......

Atlas
05-24-2005, 06:00 AM
I don't care for racing but I would watch her play beach volleyball.

http://www.lemans-racing.com/images/trajectoires/17720031058445330.jpg

Sassy
05-24-2005, 06:10 AM
http://www.danicaracing.com/images/photo-mid-left.jpg
There...I turned it into a "girly" thread just for you guys....

NaptownChief
05-24-2005, 06:59 AM
A rookie female driver ranting about not having the pole. Nothing to worry about here.



Well the good news about that is she is the first women to race at Indy that actually desires the "pole" if you know what I mean. ;D

Arkie
05-24-2005, 07:32 AM
Since the machine does all the work....yes she can beat anyone.

Are you just trying to stir the pot? ;)

I don't expect somebody like you to be so ignorant because I respect your takes in most of the other subjects on this board.

She will have to accurately adjust the speed of the car when it needs to go faster or slower and steer through the corners. As you know, a race can be decided in 1/1000th of a second. That's why it's a huge mistake if she steps on the brakes one second too early or too late. These "machines doing all the work" take corners at very high speeds, she will have to take 10 times the turning force of a normal car. Imagine having to go around a track that is several miles long, many times at these high speeds. As you can imagine, that would be pretty tough on your body. That's why she has to be super strong and fit and be able to concentrate really well to finish the race. She will have to have superb vision. It is a little different from the eye tests that we do when getting a checkup. She has to be able to see everything around her at speeds of several hundred miles per hour. For example, she has to be able to see what is displayed on the pit signs in a split second, and read any changes in the race conditions very quickly. Most of us don't have this "dynamic vision." Speed by itself, does not win races. It is a combination of speed, skill, awareness, and knowing what needs to be done to win the race that separates the best from the rest. And all of this is just from her point of view. The pit crew is just as important to the team. I know you and me both would jump in the driver's seat to make millions of dollars if "the machine did all the work for us." In reality, she would kick our asses. We would both come in dead last everytime in one of these races.

Spider
05-24-2005, 07:33 AM
Non
Athletic
Sport
Centered
Around
Rednecks

bendog
05-24-2005, 07:42 AM
Don't like nascar cause that is really all about the wrecks and a guy like 'the terminator' is admired. Formula cars ..... that's something else. I saw her take a qualifiying lap in Japan on espn while I stairmastered. She looked like she could drive.

Spider
05-24-2005, 07:48 AM
Don't like nascar cause that is really all about the wrecks and a guy like 'the terminator' is admired. Formula cars ..... that's something else. I saw her take a qualifiying lap in Japan on espn while I stairmastered. She looked like she could drive.
Rubbin is Racin , Rubbin is Racin ,Rubbin is Racin ....... ;D or so I am told

bendog
05-24-2005, 07:52 AM
I think it's more frowned upon in formula to use your nose to spin out the guy in front of you. Frankly Nascar has made it unsafe to drive on the damn highways out here. It used to be you could just avoid the circa 1970 chevrolets with jacked up suspensions and thousand dollar wheel rims, but now you get yahoo republican rednecks driving Suburbans thinking their Ernhardt Jr.

Spider
05-24-2005, 08:01 AM
I think it's more frowned upon in formula to use your nose to spin out the guy in front of you. Frankly Nascar has made it unsafe to drive on the damn highways out here. It used to be you could just avoid the circa 1970 chevrolets with jacked up suspensions and thousand dollar wheel rims, but now you get yahoo republican rednecks driving Suburbans thinking their Ernhardt Jr.
LOL .....

FADERPROOF
05-24-2005, 08:21 AM
I don't care for racing but I would watch her play beach volleyball.

http://www.lemans-racing.com/images/trajectoires/17720031058445330.jpg

Looks like a potential avatar for you :)

As far as her winning the Indy 500, she placed 3rd in qualifying so I don't see a reason why she couldn't move up a mere 2 spots to win it.

watermock
05-24-2005, 08:25 AM
she isn't the first female to try it. Jill St.James had several attempts. She wiped out consistently and is retired.

Spider
05-24-2005, 09:15 AM
Nyah!

Atlas
05-24-2005, 09:27 AM
Don't like nascar cause that is really all about the wrecks and a guy like 'the terminator' is admired. Formula cars ..... that's something else. I saw her take a qualifiying lap in Japan on espn while I stairmastered. She looked like she could drive.

The Terminator was terminated

ozomulsion
05-24-2005, 09:40 AM
Looks like a potential avatar for you :)

As far as her winning the Indy 500, she placed 3rd in qualifying so I don't see a reason why she couldn't move up a mere 2 spots to win it.

It doesn't really work like that. It's all about being able to tell your crew what adjusments to make as the race goes on. It takes experience to get this down. Very often the fastest car at the end of the day was not one of the fastest to start the day.

ozomulsion
05-24-2005, 09:46 AM
Hey Sassy, what does this thread have to do with Nascar?

FADERPROOF
05-24-2005, 10:00 AM
It doesn't really work like that. It's all about being able to tell your crew what adjusments to make as the race goes on. It takes experience to get this down. Very often the fastest car at the end of the day was not one of the fastest to start the day.

Well, it's at least obvious she has a fast car and can drive the thing, its all a matter of luck and picking the right spots, but if she's starting 3rd then I say she has a chance at winning it.

FADERPROOF
05-24-2005, 10:14 AM
and holy crap! she's only a year older than I am...

ozomulsion
05-24-2005, 10:21 AM
Wow! This is only his 4th race ever on an oval. She will crash, mark my words. The only question is how many cars she will take out with her.

Mtbrncofn
05-24-2005, 07:12 PM
Thank God it's not NASCAR. Stick with that open wheel crap, Danica and best of luck to you. We've been through the Shawna Robinson experiment and it sucked ass. Women seem to fare better in the open wheel cars. It's more about finesse. Sarah Fisher has also qualified and raced in the 500 a couple of times. Hasn't fared so well though.

She's got a good shot. Please don't come over to NASCAR though.

Sassy
05-24-2005, 07:22 PM
Hey Sassy, what does this thread have to do with Nascar?
Ha! What do I know!?
LOL!

watermock
05-24-2005, 07:36 PM
Just give me the damn GTO Sassy, I'll put in a 455 high compression and draft bump them right off the track.

Believe it or not, mock is a pretty good race driver. Good enough to run over Slap anyway.

DB-Freak
05-24-2005, 07:44 PM
Just give me the damn GTO Sassy, I'll put in a 455 high compression and draft bump them right off the track.

Believe it or not, mock is a pretty good race driver. Good enough to run over Slap anyway.
Yea I noticed.

Seeing that you haven't killed yourself yet with that much alcohol in your body.

watermock
05-24-2005, 07:58 PM
First, she whined like someone should of handed her the Pole. Then she whined again when she didn't get it, when it was her own driver error that took time off the clock.

She was so obsessed with winning the pole, which is basically a worthless prize, that she almost turned the car around, then still whined.

They have given her a great setup, but I give her 200 laps, she's too impatient. Her car will find the soft wall before the race is half over when she gets on slick tires. Hopefully she will walk away, but I almost guarantee it, she doesn't understand the envelope whatsoever.

When the car even slightly goes away, she's going to go into the wall.

Garcia Bronco
05-24-2005, 08:39 PM
I'll say this...I bet she can burn four rubbers at the same time.