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MT-Tdawg

05-20-2005, 09:30 PM

If he agrees to terms and makes the team.

http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=334&storyID=4170

TheManeMan

05-20-2005, 09:30 PM

I heard it'll become official on Sunday...

Kaylore

05-20-2005, 09:35 PM

Sounds like they're treating it right. He'll have to compete. And frankly, I wouldn't mind a guy who might not have much left, but at least still has good hands and can teach all the children with Rod Smith about coaching.

I'm tired of the drops, and a guy with good hands as our fourth or fifth man out there doesn't seem like a bad deal to me. He probably still beat a lot of the fifth corners on most teams.

If he sucks, we cut him. If he's good, he'll play the fifth or fourth guy.

-Slap-

05-20-2005, 09:36 PM

What the hell. No use crying about it now. If he makes a couple big catches this year, it will be a couple more than we got out of the number four WR spot last year.

I'm confident he'll do what right regarding Rod's number 80.

http://webpages.csus.edu/~sac60259/jerryricebig.jpg

-Slap-

05-20-2005, 09:40 PM

I'll spoil whichever one of our resident Raider fan's fun by posting the picture of his 200th touchdown right now.

http://www.photofile.com/Photos/Albums/Whats_Hot_Page/NFL/Achievements/Images/Jerry_Rice_200th_Touchdown_JPG.JPG

I have to go take a shower now.

-Slap-

05-20-2005, 09:45 PM

At least he won't have to retire in this hideous gear.

http://images.sportsnetwork.com/football/nfl/allsport/seahawks/rice_jerry2.jpg

Now that this is done, I'm starting to feel pretty good about it.

Darius?

http://www.denverbroncos.com/resources/custom/Images/Top%20Stories/2004/watts_darius_040821.jpg

Earn those reps, or this old killer will bleed them away from you without a shred of remorse.

-Slap-

05-20-2005, 09:51 PM

The numbers are simply ridiculous.

Jerry Rice

13-time Pro Bowler: 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1998, 2002

Among the league's all-time top 50
Receptions: 1
Receiving yards: 1
Receiving TDs: 1
Yards from scrimmage: 1
Rush/Receive TDs: 1

+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 1985 sfo | 16 | 6 26 4.3 1 | 49 927 18.9 3 |
| 1986 sfo | 16 | 10 72 7.2 1 | 86 1570 18.3 15 |
| 1987 sfo | 12 | 8 51 6.4 1 | 65 1078 16.6 22 |
| 1988 sfo | 16 | 13 107 8.2 1 | 64 1306 20.4 9 |
| 1989 sfo | 16 | 5 33 6.6 0 | 82 1483 18.1 17 |
| 1990 sfo | 16 | 2 0 0.0 0 | 100 1502 15.0 13 |
| 1991 sfo | 16 | 1 2 2.0 0 | 80 1206 15.1 14 |
| 1992 sfo | 16 | 9 58 6.4 1 | 84 1201 14.3 10 |
| 1993 sfo | 16 | 3 69 23.0 1 | 98 1503 15.3 15 |
| 1994 sfo | 16 | 7 93 13.3 2 | 112 1499 13.4 13 |
| 1995 sfo | 16 | 5 36 7.2 1 | 122 1848 15.1 15 |
| 1996 sfo | 16 | 11 77 7.0 1 | 108 1254 11.6 8 |
| 1997 sfo | 2 | 1 -10 -10.0 0 | 7 78 11.1 1 |
| 1998 sfo | 16 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 82 1157 14.1 9 |
| 1999 sfo | 16 | 2 13 6.5 0 | 67 830 12.4 5 |
| 2000 sfo | 16 | 1 -2 -2.0 0 | 75 805 10.7 7 |
| 2001 oak | 16 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 83 1139 13.7 9 |
| 2002 oak | 16 | 3 20 6.7 0 | 92 1211 13.2 7 |
| 2003 oak | 16 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 63 869 13.8 2 |
| 2004 oak | 4 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 5 67 13.4 0 |
| 2004 sea | 13 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 25 362 14.5 3 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 303 | 87 645 7.4 10 | 1549 22895 14.8 197 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

http://www.geocities.com/jerryriceman80/rice_donsidelinelast99.jpg

Odysseus

05-20-2005, 09:55 PM

If he retires a Broncos it would be a good story.
If he can't make the team. Everyone will know he went out trying.
Darius, Lelie and Rod get a chance to see what a 42 year old WR looks like.
I think the fact that he's on a no guarantee gives everyone a shot.

Rod's new website....rodsmith80....He's not giving that number up.

-Slap-

05-20-2005, 09:59 PM

GreatBronco16

05-20-2005, 10:07 PM

It would be a great story if he catches a touchdown in Super Bowl XL.

How bout if he caught the winning TD as time expires? Nice huh.

Play2win

05-21-2005, 12:34 AM

Rice is going to solve our Red-Zone woes, and Ian Gold will solve our Turnover woes.

Clockwork Orange

05-21-2005, 01:23 AM

If he helps out in the red zone, it's worth it. In the red zone his lost couple of steps won't be nearly as much of a liability. He's still a good route runner and still has great hands, so he'll have his uses.

But if he doesn't perform in camp, he'll be cut just like anyone else. I'm all for it. Earn the job or lose it.

But I don't give a rats tail who he is or what he does, he doesn't take the number 80 from Rod Smith under any circumstances.

watermock

05-21-2005, 02:15 AM

I think this is a personal favor by Shanahan to Rice. I'm just letting it roll off my back like a duck, and would laugh like hell if Rice dons a Bronco Shirt at the HOF. When I said we needed to bring in a vet WR, I wasn't thinking Jerry Rice.

Hey, Jerry Rice has been a great player, and our Coach took him in off the street. I don't agree with it, but you have to say that our club has class. My dad was a Big Brother, and he told me that you just have to give a hand, you don't have to get pulled in. I just thought Rod Smith alllready had the Big Brother routine down here.

If Shanahan wants to give Jerry Rice a swan song as a Bronco, I am not the one to argue. Wouldn't it it be odd is we made it to the SuperBowl and Jerry Rice caught the winning TD? Someone slap me...

baja

05-21-2005, 05:08 AM

Atlas

05-21-2005, 07:06 AM

Rice is going to solve our Red-Zone woes, and Ian Gold will solve our Turnover woes.

Yeah he had a whopping 3 TDs last year.

-Slap-

05-21-2005, 07:19 AM

Yeah he had a whopping 3 TDs last year.

The same number that Putzier, Watts, Luke and Jackson combined for last season.

Spider

05-21-2005, 07:20 AM

Rice is going to solve our Red-Zone woes, and Ian Gold will solve our Turnover woes.
TE and Power running will solve our Redzone woes , but what Rice can help with is giving Rod Help on 3 rd down , over the last 2 years , Rod has been Jakes security blanket , we need a viable possesion Reciever .... I still think Watts can do it , but if Rice becomes a Bronco he has my support ........ «««««««««« Doesnt diss Players on the roster .........

Atlas

05-21-2005, 07:25 AM

The same number that Putzier, Watts, Luke and Jackson combined for last season.

I agree and they will have to play better this year BUT that doesn't mean Rice is going to help Denver's red zone problems.

Sir Mawn

05-21-2005, 08:17 AM

KillerBronco#76

05-21-2005, 08:24 AM

This is exactly what i wanted, i only wanted him here if he was gonna have to earn the roster spot wich he is gonna have to do. If he can earn it then hell yes what wrong with have a consistent wr who runs good routes incase any of our receivers fall into a slump or become inconsistent this season.

Bronco9798

05-21-2005, 08:44 AM

Just finished reading the other Rice thread where many people are calling the deal a joke, and all of a sudden in this one everybody's for it?

Don't get me wrong, I see nothing wrong with this deal (nothing that excites me either BTW).

I'm against it, but what choice do we have, we're only fans. If he puts on the uniform, I'll pull for him for 3 hours on Sunday/Monday and hope he helps the team. I'm just hoping he don't make the team. People are infatuated with the name and the Jerry Rice of the past. I'll be surprised to see him make the team, and if he does, well so be it.

GO BRONCOS!!!!!!!!!!

orange 4 life

05-21-2005, 08:47 AM

What the hell. No use crying about it now. If he makes a couple big catches this year, it will be a couple more than we got out of the number four WR spot last year.

I'm confident he'll do what right regarding Rod's number 80.

agree completely.
there's some upside to this move, but realistically no downside.
im fine with it. hell, im happy about it...

..as long as rod wears number 80.

KillerBronco#76

05-21-2005, 08:52 AM

..as long as rod wears number 80.
If he even looks at rods jersey the wrong way i say he's off the team no way in hell does he get #80

Atlas

05-21-2005, 09:24 AM

agree completely.
there's some upside to this move, but realistically no downside.
im fine with it. hell, im happy about it...

..as long as rod wears number 80.

There is no downside as along as Shanny cuts his ass.

ZachKC

05-21-2005, 09:33 AM

Rice is going to solve our Red-Zone woes
ha

sirhcyennek81

05-21-2005, 09:56 AM

Thinking Rice is going to be the offense's version of jimmy spencer. Player-Coach on the field. Also, Having rice in during the redzone will draw coverage, it still is jerry rice.

bombquixote

05-21-2005, 10:08 AM

okay, well i'd rather we pick up rice than freddie mitchel. that said, i think if we go after a receiver, we should go after someone who is a legitimate posession threat. i mean, it's all good to have another leader in the locker room, but the reality is rice isn't going to do much on the field.

delany

05-21-2005, 10:14 AM

The issue of who will don #80 is funny to me.

If Rod has a problem with it...then I would have a problem with it.

Sometimes though, I think that fans worry about it more than SOME of the players. Maybe it just isn't that important to Rod. Who knows?

If there ever was a player that would give his number up for a guy like Rice...it is Rod.

Rod has also been known to wear other numbers in training camp. Maybe he would get a kick out of wearing a low digit number like Watts...

MileHighMania

05-21-2005, 10:29 AM

I'd rather them sign Troy Brown.

DBroncos4life

05-21-2005, 11:07 AM

Antino Freeman ran a 4.5 something not to long ago, per KFFL.com. It also said he was in good shape as well. I thought about posting something about him but I didn't get around to it. I wouldn't mind him coming in and competing for a spot as well.

Hulamau

05-21-2005, 11:12 AM

Rod, Lelie, Watts (or Nate Jackson) and Jerry Rice all lined up in our 4 WR package will be a tough nut for any defense to handle. At least two of those guys are going to get wide open, and Rice would be a perfect decoy in any event.

No team is going to slack off coverage on the GOAT just cause he's got a few miles on the wheels.

Bronx33

05-21-2005, 11:36 AM

ugh* i hope to god his ego doesnt screw up the youngsters and our recieving corps,and rice better not ask for smiths number or ill hate rice even more than before. :twitch:

-Slap-

05-21-2005, 11:55 AM

Just finished reading the other Rice thread where many people are calling the deal a joke, and all of a sudden in this one everybody's for it?

Don't get me wrong, I see nothing wrong with this deal (nothing that excites me either BTW).

I guess I flip flopped on the Rice signing, but I agree with all the people who said that at least this will keep Freddie's Mitchell's fat mouth out of Dove Valley.

Bottom line is he cost us nothing and if he catches just one big touchdown in an important game all season he'll probably justify his roster spot.

Rock Chalk

05-21-2005, 11:58 AM

Bronx33

05-21-2005, 12:01 PM

Man Im never going to live this down if Rice becomes a Bronco.

Ive hated that prick since day 1.

Its gonna be hard to root for him.

I wont, not until he makes the team. I will be rooting against him in camp.

I'am with alec on this try out.........i hope the youngsters beat him out fair and square.

baja

05-21-2005, 12:02 PM

Shanahan, Rice in Talks

But No Promises Will Be Made to NFL's All-Time Leading Receiver
*** UPDATED 2:14 P.M. MST ***

By Andrew Mason
DenverBroncos.com

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- If Jerry Rice wants to be a Bronco, a slot on the team's roster heading into training camp is his.

BRONCOS TV: COULD RICE BECOME A BRONCO?
QUARTERBACK CAMP PHOTO GALLERY

But nothing beyond that can be assured.

Head Coach Mike Shanahan wouldn't make any promises in a Thursday conversation with Rice that touched upon the potential of bringing the NFL's all-time leading receiver to the Broncos.

"Jerry knows that if he does come here, he's going to come here and compete with the rest of the guys," Shanahan said. "There's no promises of him being the third receiver, the fourth receiver, the fifth receiver. If he does come here, we're going to give him a chance to compete with the other receivers.

"I told Jerry, 'I don't know if you lost a step or two steps, but you're going to come here for one reason -- to compete with our other guys, and if you're one of our top five guys at the end of camp, you'll be on our football team. If you're not, I'd have one of the toughest jobs in the world -- to release a guy that is arguably the best player to ever play the game."

Rice -- who played under Shanahan from 1992-94 when he served as the San Francisco 49ers' offensive coordinator -- was amenable to those terms, Shanahan noted.

"Jerry said, 'Hey, Coach, I would want it no other way. I want to prove to you that I can still play, and if you don't think I can help your football team win, and it would be best for you not to have me on your football team, I understand it. I'm looking for a team that will give me a legitimate chance to compete, and I want to do it for the Denver Broncos.'"

There is no deal in place between the Broncos and the 42-year-old receiver as of yet.

"I think Jerry would like to play here," Shanahan said, "but there's always parameters that you have to work out with a contract; there's always decisions that he has to make from a family perspective.

"I'd like to talk about this Tuesday or Wednesday of next week when there is hopefully a deal done. I'm trying to be as honest as I can with (the media) right now that we don't have a deal done, but I do think there's a chance that Jerry Rice would be with the Denver Broncos, but if he was with the Denver Broncos that it would be on those terms."

Should Rice accept the no-guarantee terms, it would be a no-lose scenario in Shanahan's eyes.

"I don't see that there's any downside as long as somebody understands what the situation is going in," Shanahan said. "Now, if the person expects to be the No. 3 wide receiver -- with a guy like Darius Watts, I don't think it's fair for me to say, 'Jerry, come on in and you're going to be the No. 3 guy, or fourth guy or fifth guy.' I can't make those promises and I would never do that to a veteran player."

When asked about Rice on Thursday, safety John Lynch concurred with the notion that there is no downside to adding Rice.

"There could be absolutely nothing negative about bringing a guy like that in," Lynch said. "I would love the opportunity just to be in his presence, to be around him, to get the feel a little bit about his habits and what's made him (into) the greatness that he's achieved, because you hear all the legends of the way he works, his habits. He's the first one on the field and the last one off. Even when you've been in the league for a while, you love playing around players like that, so I would love the opportunity to play with him."

But it has to be under the afore-mentioned terms -- which weren't possible last fall when Oakland shopped Rice around the league before dealing him to Seattle, nor were they in place two months earlier after the Raiders released Tim Brown during the preseason.

Like Rice, Brown played under Shanahan earlier in his career, when Shanahan was head coach of the Los Angeles Raiders.

"One of the reasons why I didn't try to pick up Jerry Rice after Oakland (let him go) is that he expected to be the No. 3 receiver," Shanahan said. "I could not do that to Jerry Rice -- or to Tim Brown (last August after Oakland released him). All I could tell those guys is, 'I'll give you a chance to come in here and compete, but if you're looking at a guarantee, I can't promise you that.'"

At the very least, Rice's 20 seasons in the NFL and his historically diligent work ethic would offer the chance for him to lead by example.

"I definitely think you can never have enough leaders," linebacker Al Wilson said. "Especially at the wide-receiver position; with the young guys we have -- with him and a guy like Rod Smith -- I definitely think it would boost their confidence up and take them to the level at which we need them to play."

But Shanahan sees more than intangibles from his once and perhaps future protegé.

"I'm not bringing him in here just because he's a leader and he knows the game," Shanahan said. "I'm bringing him in here because I think there's a legitimate chance for him to help our football team win."

I gave this it's own thread but it seems to be dieing - still it's a good read

ZachKC

05-21-2005, 12:03 PM

Man Im never going to live this down if Rice becomes a Bronco.

Ive hated that prick since day 1.

Its gonna be hard to root for him.

I wont, not until he makes the team. I will be rooting against him in camp.
What makes you not like Rice? Just out of curiosity?

I am not a big fan of his but it always seems he has been a pretty good professional in this league. Not a drama queen, goes to work and plays good ball.

-Slap-

05-21-2005, 12:08 PM

You can't help, but admire Rice. He's so much better than the second best WR in NFL history (whoever that might be) that you can make a good case for him as the best player who ever lived.

Rock Chalk

05-21-2005, 12:09 PM

What makes you not like Rice? Just out of curiosity?

I am not a big fan of his but it always seems he has been a pretty good professional in this league. Not a drama queen, goes to work and plays good ball.
55-10

Rock Chalk

05-21-2005, 12:09 PM

You can't help, but admire Rice. He's so much better than the second best WR in NFL history (whoever that might be) that you can make a good case for him as the best player who ever lived.
Sure you can help it. He was on the San Francisco team that kicked our ass. I dont like any of those pricks, and never will.

ZachKC

05-21-2005, 12:10 PM

55-10
Gotcha

baja

05-21-2005, 12:11 PM

55-10

So you hate him because he is good, is that pot logic?

Bronx33

05-21-2005, 12:15 PM

55-10

Ohhhhhh the pain returns! i will forever hate each and every player on that team.........i just hated hearing SF this SF that montana this montano that , i hated SF glory days thats all you ever heard from announcers.

Bronco9798

05-21-2005, 01:22 PM

rbackfactory80

05-21-2005, 03:20 PM

rbackfactory80

05-21-2005, 03:26 PM

I'd rather them sign Troy Brown.

Denver has no money which is why all of the moves that are made are gambles. Little risk for great reward.

Hercules Rockefeller

05-21-2005, 03:27 PM

Can't believe Lynch said something about the presence Rice would bring to this team and how it could help out. Doens't JL know that the GOAT has a huge ego and won't help mentor the younger WRs. Champ and Al echoed similar sentiments. Obviously those guys don't read this site, then they'd know that Rod's the one that's supposed to help the younger WRs.

DB-Freak

05-21-2005, 03:52 PM

-Slap-

05-21-2005, 04:17 PM

watermock

05-21-2005, 05:39 PM

Lynch needs to watch his back or he will go Atwater.

I seriously doubt we bring in Rice. Just my opinion.

watermock

05-22-2005, 03:27 AM

http://66.49.247.155/BB/image.php?u=3159&dateline=1116716562

Your 17 over the limit, give or take a hundred.

Honestly, I never have cracked 130.

167 I go into a BMW. it's amusing tho. I'm not scared to go 200, but dang, that's so fast. No room for error. I wouldn't be scared to crank it up in Kansas, but I worry about the tires. losing a tire at that speed would be kinda bad.

watermock

05-22-2005, 03:36 AM

Give me a Nissan NSX or a BMW coupe, I am fearless, I will go 200. But you lose your tread, your going to be on a wild ride. I kinda get scared at 135 on American junk. On new Jap junk I might hit 155 but I don't think I could hit 167 without pissing my pants. I don't have that level of confidence unless it would be a track.

I have no problem cruising at around 95. 167 I dunno. too much pressure.

Bronx33

05-22-2005, 06:53 AM

http://mas.scripps.com/DRMN/2005/05/21/431246775_d.jpg

Lookin old........

DivineLegion

05-22-2005, 08:08 AM

Well if half of the D cordinators in the leauge think like most the people in this fourm it looks like all we have to do is put Jerry on the field and b/c hes so old we can just be assured no one is going to cover him...wait maybe thats it.

How can this hurt us not only does he draw coverage of either a nickle or dime back...or if we smokes them even a Strating CB...We know he can catch and he can probably still school some young CBs.

Maximus

05-22-2005, 09:23 AM

If he even looks at rods jersey the wrong way i say he's off the team no way in hell does he get #80

Jerry Rice owns the #80... He's the greatest player to ever wear that number and Rod Smith should bow down and give it to him... It's called Respect. If Rod doesn't offer it he's a classless bastard IMHO!

Tredici

05-22-2005, 09:25 AM

Jerry Rice owns the #80... He's the greatest player to ever wear that number and Rod Smith should bow down and give it to him... It's called Respect. If Rod doesn't offer it he's a classless bastard IMHO!

Good thing your opinion counts for absolutely nothing. Rod Smith is the best receiver in Bronco history. He doesn't have to give up anything for an over the hill 49er who doesn't know when to sit down.

Maximus

05-22-2005, 09:28 AM

Good thing your opinion counts for absolutely nothing. Rod Smith is the best receiver in Bronco history. He doesn't have to give up anything for an over the hill 49er who doesn't know when to sit down.

Nor does yours... Yeah the greatest Bronco vs the Greatest in NFL history. That's a good compairson :kiddingme:

Spider

05-22-2005, 09:30 AM

Nor does yours... Yeah the greatest Bronco vs the Greatest in NFL history. That's a good compairson :kiddingme:
Rod should sell 80 to the old Bastard ...... 1.5 Mill would cover it .....

Maximus

05-22-2005, 09:35 AM

Rod should sell 80 to the old Bastard ...... 1.5 Mill would cover it .....

It would be better than getting into a dispute about it. It would only tarnish Smiths reputation... It would be like John Elway going to another team and having to argue over his number that he wore for his entire career because of some 2nd rate slug that is wearing it now ( And yes Tred Smith is a second rate slug compared to Rice )

Spider

05-22-2005, 09:42 AM

It would be better than getting into a dispute about it. It would only tarnish Smiths reputation... It would be like John Elway going to another team and having to argue over his number that he wore for his entire career because of some 2nd rate slug that is wearing it now ( And yes Tred Smith is a second rate slug compared to Rice )
Facts are Rod Smith is 80 In D town , Rice should be thankfull he is getting another crack @ it in a system that is best suited to him , I though Holmgren had a system for Rice , but it didnt work ...... Now Rice gets to retire in a classy uniform , and a chance to get some decent # 's ..... If Elway went to another Team , that already had #7 , then it is up to that Player if he gets rid of #7 or not , a Player comming shouldnt demand Shiat , This was my stance on Sharpe comming back also .........

Smilin Assassin

05-22-2005, 09:44 AM

It would be better than getting into a dispute about it. It would only tarnish Smiths reputation... It would be like John Elway going to another team and having to argue over his number that he wore for his entire career because of some 2nd rate slug that is wearing it now ( And yes Tred Smith is a second rate slug compared to Rice )

I don't think it would tarnish Rod's image at all.

Most people (fans/media) are still suprised or upset that Rice took the retired #80 in Seattle. To take it from an established fan favorite/comsumate pro such as Rod when it's clear to 31 other teams he's no longer the 'great jerry rice', would only tarnish Jerry's image, IMHO.

Atlas

05-22-2005, 09:50 AM

Atlas

05-22-2005, 09:52 AM

Maximus

05-22-2005, 09:55 AM

Facts are Rod Smith is 80 In D town , Rice should be thankfull he is getting another crack @ it in a system that is best suited to him , I though Holmgren had a system for Rice , but it didnt work ...... Now Rice gets to retire in a classy uniform , and a chance to get some decent # 's ..... If Elway went to another Team , that already had #7 , then it is up to that Player if he gets rid of #7 or not , a Player comming shouldnt demand Shiat , This was my stance on Sharpe comming back also .........

Again Smith is 80 in denver but, Rice is #80 Every where! How is it going to look on NFL films when they show the legacy of Jerry Rice & he has 80 on in every uniform except in denver? That would look pretty bad IMO

I agree with you he should be happy to be playing for anyone at this time but, Rod Smith should be honored because if he gives up the number he will always be linked with the greatest of all times if he happens to retire after playing for the donks. The other scenario is just asking for criticism Smith would become infamous for breaking Rices' Tradition!

Maximus

05-22-2005, 09:58 AM

Jerry Rice is at BEST Denver's 4th WR. No way does he get #80

He can wear #16

Atlas, it's best that you stick to changing your Avatars... That is what you're good at!

Spider

05-22-2005, 09:59 AM

Again Smith is 80 in denver but, Rice is #80 Every where!
Everywhere doesnt count though , Denver does , thats where the Broncos are .....

How is it going to look on NFL films when they show the legacy of Jerry Rice & he has 80 on in every uniform except in denver? That would look pretty bad IMO
Only if he has a crappy year , Hell if Dion Sanders had a great year for the Ravens wearing #37 , all we would have heard about is Dion , not the #

I agree with you he should be happy to be playing for anyone at this time but, Rod Smith should be honored because if he gives up the number he will always be linked with the greatest of all times if he happens to retire after playing for the donks. The other scenario is just asking for criticism Smith would become infamous for breaking Rices' Tradition!
What Tradition ? that was already Broke when Rice became a seahawk , Right now , Rice is viewed as a Player out living his Reputation ....... In the End Max that is what it all boils down to , when a player out lives his talent ....

Atlas

05-22-2005, 10:04 AM

Atlas, it's best that you stick to changing your Avatars... That is what you're good at!

Gee good response. Especially when I'm right and your opinion is just crap.

The worst take of the year

Maximus

05-22-2005, 10:10 AM

I don't think it would tarnish Rod's image at all.

Most people (fans/media) are still suprised or upset that Rice took the retired #80 in Seattle. To take it from an established fan favorite/comsumate pro such as Rod when it's clear to 31 other teams he's no longer the 'great jerry rice', would only tarnish Jerry's image, IMHO.

Good point. Largent is one of the greatest in the NFL but, If you're asked a question like this on a Quiz how would you answer:

Name the greatest WR in NFL History to wear the Number 80.

A) Steve Largent
B) James Lofton
C) Rod Smith
D) Jerry Rice

The answer surely wouldn't be Steve Largent. Rices' skills have diminished greatly but his legacy hasn't so players giving up the number really shouldn't be the issue or a factor if a fan doesn't want him on the team... bottom line is can he still contribute. I think he can and I think he can be a starter in the slot for your donkeys!

Maximus

05-22-2005, 10:16 AM

Gee good response. Especially when I'm right and your opinion is just crap.

The worst take of the year

Like I actually care what you think ( assuming that you can ). You sound dumber than that blond in your avatar looks... At least I have a football take on a football thread!

Atlas

05-22-2005, 10:21 AM

Like I actually care what you think ( assuming that you can ). You sound dumber than that blond in your avatar looks... At least I have a football take on a football thread!

Your the one obsessing over my avatar.

My football take on this is that your take is a pile of horse sh_t.

Maximus

05-22-2005, 10:23 AM

Everywhere doesnt count though , Denver does , thats where the Broncos are .....

Only if he has a crappy year , Hell if Dion Sanders had a great year for the Ravens wearing #37 , all we would have heard about is Dion , not the #

What Tradition ? that was already Broke when Rice became a seahawk , Right now , Rice is viewed as a Player out living his Reputation ....... In the End Max that is what it all boils down to , when a player out lives his talent ....

Some players transcend all boundries. Rice happens to be one of those people. When you think of Rice it's #80, Jordan its #23, Kareem 33, Elway 7 etc.

Deion and Jordan both decided to give up their numbers. I forgot Deions reason I thought it had something to do with his age or something but we all know that Jordan gave his up because of his baseball number. When Rice leaves it will only make Smiths legacy that much greater because he would have showed class by deferring to the greatest of all times!

Spider

05-22-2005, 10:32 AM

Some players transcend all boundries. Rice happens to be one of those people. When you think of Rice it's #80, Jordan its #23, Kareem 33, Elway 7 etc.
Jordan as with the others exception of Elway will be remembered as Players that held on to long ....We see it in Boxing , Baseball , Hockey , Football,like with Montana , he kept his Niner # , but in the end People will remember he went to KC , when he should have retired .......

Deion and Jordan both decided to give up their numbers. I forgot Deions reason I thought it had something to do with his age or something but we all know that Jordan gave his up because of his baseball number.
Dion did , he took 37 cause of his age , but all people will remember is he held on too long ......

When Rice leaves it will only make Smiths legacy that much greater because he would have showed class by deferring to the greatest of all times!
I dont think so , What Rod did on the field will be his legacy as it should be ...
Tell me , How would you feel if Nalen came to Oakland and Demanded Ottos # ?

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05-22-2005, 10:33 AM

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Smilin Assassin

05-22-2005, 10:37 AM

Good point. Largent is one of the greatest in the NFL but, If you're asked a question like this on a Quiz how would you answer:

Name the greatest WR in NFL History to wear the Number 80.

A) Steve Largent
B) James Lofton
C) Rod Smith
D) Jerry Rice

The answer surely wouldn't be Steve Largent. Rices' skills have diminished greatly but his legacy hasn't so players giving up the number really shouldn't be the issue or a factor if a fan doesn't want him on the team... bottom line is can he still contribute. I think he can and I think he can be a starter in the slot for your donkeys!

True. I won't argue Rice is the best WR ever to play in the NFL.

But, if you were to ask me who the greatest WR to wear #80 in Seattle was, my answer would indeed be Largent.

And, (should we aquire Rice) if you ask me that same question about the #80 in Denver 2 years from now (when Rod will STILL be on the team), my answer would be Rod Smith.

As wrong as you may think it would be to see Rice wearing anything but the number 80 on NFL films, is as wrong as I feel it would be to see that same fate befall Rod Smith for what will probably amount to one yr while some passing legend decides he's not done playing yet, and takes his number.

Again, I can't see this tarnishin Rod's name one way or the other.

Maximus

05-22-2005, 10:37 AM

Jordan as with the others exception of Elway will be remembered as Players that held on to long ....We see it in Boxing , Baseball , Hockey , Football,like with Montana , he kept his Niner # , but in the end People will remember he went to KC , when he should have retired .......

Dion did , he took 37 cause of his age , but all people will remember is he held on too long ......

I dont think so , What Rod did on the field will be his legacy as it should be ...
Tell me , How would you feel if Nalen came to Oakland and Demanded Ottos # ?

Bad example Spider... Nalen never wore 00 and Nalen isn't a HOF'er Assuming that Nalen was a better player than Otto and Otto was questionable for the HOF I would say that Otto's number would be up for grabs but, in the present Otto would tell Nalen to find another number.

Tredici

05-22-2005, 10:38 AM

Nor does yours... Yeah the greatest Bronco vs the Greatest in NFL history. That's a good compairson :kiddingme:

You are stupid.

clarker

05-22-2005, 10:39 AM

Joe Montana changed from #16 to #19 because Len Dawson's #16 was retired and no one would say that Dawson had the legacy that Montana does.

If Joe Montana can change his number, so can Rice.

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05-22-2005, 10:40 AM

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Spider

05-22-2005, 10:41 AM

Bad example Spider... Nalen never wore 00 and Nalen isn't a HOF'er Assuming that Nalen was a better player than Otto and Otto was questionable for the HOF I would say that Otto's number would be up for grabs but, in the present Otto would tell Nalen to find another number.
true it was a Bad example , I did reach there ..... I thought of Blitienkoff ( sp?) #25 , but Kaufman wore that ......

Spider

05-22-2005, 10:43 AM

Joe Montana changed from #16 to #19 because Len Dawson's #16 was retired and no one would say that Dawson had the legacy that Montana does.

If Joe Montana can change his number, so can Rice.
hmmmm See , I thought Montana kept his # . just shows how important the # is ...... My entire point is Production ...... Thanks for clearing that up Clarker .....

Maximus

05-22-2005, 10:53 AM

hmmmm See , I thought Montana kept his # . just shows how important the # is ...... My entire point is Production ...... Thanks for clearing that up Clarker .....

The production is important. I agree with Smilin Assassin neither would lose or be diminished with a number change but, smith would gain ever more accolades for allowing Rice to wear the number. Rice probably stays for 1 season and retires Smith puts his number back on and the Announcers and Media hacks give him Kudos for showing respect to an aging veteran that was well past his prime.

Spider

05-22-2005, 10:57 AM

The production is important. I agree with Smilin Assassin neither would lose or be diminished with a number change but, smith would gain ever more accolades for allowing Rice to wear the number. Rice probably stays for 1 season and retires Smith puts his number back on and the Announcers and Media hacks give him Kudos for showing respect to an aging veteran that was well past his prime.
Maybe , But then would Rice want Rod Smiths # ?
Lets face it , only Marvin Harrision has out Done Rod Smith , who clearly doesnt have the Skills of a Harrision , Rod does what he does out of Hard work , and while Jerry is past his Prime , Jerry also knows Hard work got him where he is today ...... 6 in one hand half a dozen in the other .........

Pezman

05-22-2005, 11:01 AM

Joe Montana changed from #16 to #19 because Len Dawson's #16 was retired and no one would say that Dawson had the legacy that Montana does.

If Joe Montana can change his number, so can Rice.

Maybe we need you to spell that out to him come the next few days. I dont think it will be as easy as that. I just know Rod's numbers are going to Rice... call it a feeling or whatever. Rod is not the type to put up a fight over it. Tis a sham... errr shame.

Maximus

05-22-2005, 11:02 AM

Maybe , But then would Rice want Rod Smiths # ?
Lets face it , only Marvin Harrision has out Done Rod Smith , who clearly doesnt have the Skills of a Harrision , Rod does what he does out of Hard work , and while Jerry is past his Prime , Jerry also knows Hard work got him where he is today ...... 6 in one hand half a dozen in the other .........

Yeah... Agreed!

Spider

05-22-2005, 11:08 AM

Yeah... Agreed!
good talk Max ......... :thumbsup:

cabronco

05-22-2005, 11:11 AM

I think Rod Smith will keep his number 80, and JR will just be thankful to wear a jersey this year. Not saying Jerry does not want his old number, but should respect the fact that Rod has been a constant role model for the broncos, in as much as he was for the 49ers.

clarker

05-22-2005, 11:18 AM

Maybe we need you to spell that out to him come the next few days. I dont think it will be as easy as that. I just know Rod's numbers are going to Rice... call it a feeling or whatever. Rod is not the type to put up a fight over it. Tis a sham... errr shame.I think your right. My bet is that Rice will want #80 and Smith will give it to him. But if Montana, who I really don't care for, was cool enough to respect Dawson and Change his number, so could Rice.

I don't mind Rice comming to Denver, but I am glad that Shanny has made it clear that he has to compete for a job and it will not be handed to him.

Arkie

05-23-2005, 01:19 PM

Rice is going to solve our Red-Zone woes,

:yep:

I think Rice can find his way to the endzone...

All-time touchdown leaders
1. J Rice 207
2. E Smith 175
3. M Allen 144
4. M Faulk 135
5. C Carter 130
6. J Brown 126
7. W Payton 125
8. J Riggins 116
9. L Moore 111
10. B Sanders 109

MrMagicTomBrady

05-23-2005, 05:29 PM

I wouldn't want a broken down Rice on my team just for leadership. He should retire with the 49ers (the team he built his legacy with.) He should be remembered for receiving touchdown passes from the quarterback The Great Brady has successfully replaced

Bronco9798

05-23-2005, 05:39 PM

I think your right. My bet is that Rice will want #80 and Smith will give it to him. But if Montana, who I really don't care for, was cool enough to respect Dawson and Change his number, so could Rice.

I don't mind Rice comming to Denver, but I am glad that Shanny has made it clear that he has to compete for a job and it will not be handed to him.

Do you guys really believe that Rice will have to compete for a job if he is signed. I think Shanny is just putting a spin on those statements for the media and so the younger WR's don't get discouraged. If he's signed he'll have a job, regardless. I don't believe that crap that he has to compete for a job. :juggle:

Bronco9798

05-23-2005, 05:41 PM

I persoally hope he gets on a plane headed for Denver and it's up in Siberia or somewhere.....

broncohaven

05-23-2005, 05:50 PM

If anyone but Rod is wearing #80 next year, I'm going to throw up on my shoes.

clarker

05-23-2005, 05:54 PM

Do you guys really believe that Rice will have to compete for a job if he is signed. I think Shanny is just putting a spin on those statements for the media and so the younger WR's don't get discouraged. If he's signed he'll have a job, regardless. I don't believe that crap that he has to compete for a job. :juggle:Shanny hasn't been known to sign or keep a player just because of the good old days.

Of course there is no way to prove that he had to compete for the job. If Rice does come to Denver and makes the team, all the Shanny bashers will say Shanny lied and Rice didn't have to compete for the job. The only way to prove it is if he gets cut.

Circle Orange

05-23-2005, 06:41 PM

Who's Rice trying to kid?! It's reported he'll settle for being fourth string. Is that pathetic or what?? A hall of famer reduced to fourth string because he can't let it go...if he were a quarterback you'd never hear the end of it. And he won't accept backup money. Who's gonna pay a leg for a fourth stringer? Please!

And he's already retired like, five times.

Go home, Jerry. Go home. :sickortir

Raider Bill

05-23-2005, 06:59 PM

I had you guys pegged for Freddie Mitchell. I guess the Mastermind didn't watch the tape of the NFC championship game. On Dorsey Levin's TD Mitchell threw one of the nastiest blocks I've ever seen a WR throw, on a DE none the less.

If I were a fan of your team, I would want to see someone proven to hedge that 3rd or 4th WR spot. Rice still has something to offer in that system IMO, trouble is he won't play Special teams like a traditional 4th or 5th guy would.

broncohaven

05-23-2005, 07:34 PM

Rice to me doesn't offer much to the team. We have a WR leader in Rod, and all Rice is going to do in any capacity other than leadership is steal reps from young guys that we're going to have to count on in the near future. I don't see the value in this signing at all.

Arkie

05-23-2005, 08:08 PM

John Lynch said it best, “My thought is there could be absolutely nothing negative about bringing a guy like that in. I would love the opportunity just to be in his presence and just get to see a little bit of his work habits. You hear all the legends about the way he works.”

All the other Broncos seem to want him here too. Jerry is the type of player that makes his teammates better.