Best Weapon at receiver in the AFC West?

[WaffleBoy]

Vote!

The Boy Wonder :super:

[Mr Chatterboodamn]

Moss, go away

[Sir Mawn]

Obviously Moss. Rod's still better than Lelie.

[ludo21]

moss is a beast, he always has double digit td seasons, and yet, he doesnt even put forth all his effort, just an insane athlete

[toad]

Moss, no question....heck he's one of, likely THE, best in the NFL, not just the AFC West.

[WaffleBoy]

Obviously Moss. Rod's still better than Lelie.

Oops... I meant best weapon.

The Boy Wonder :super:

[Ballhawk]

I dont know I would say Rod til he shows his age. Of course I take into consideration Leadership, Blocking, willingness to do whatever it takes, umm like punt returning, Chasing a guy 90 yards to save a TD and such.

If you are talking purely top end talent then Moss, but he is not the best WR in the game much less AFC and is definately not a winner.

[JPEZ]

I would say Moss!! But I'm pullin' for the Boy Wonder!! Vincent Jackson!!
AFC rookie of the year!! ;D Go Bears!

[Crushaholic]

Until I see Moss catch a pass in a Raiders uniform, I won't count him. So there... Nyah!

[Drek]

At reciever its no question Moss, but as an offensive weapon in general he looses out to LT2.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Hey! You left off the WR that scored the most TDs in the West last year! What gives? ;D

[IHaveALight]

How could anyone not vote for Moss? He is by far the most dangerious weapon at his position. Now, best overall WR in the West would be debatable.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

How could anyone not vote for Moss? He is by far the most dangerious weapon at his position. Now, best overall WR in the West would be debatable.

Um, no. There's no WR that comes CLOSE to Moss in the AFC West.

[IHaveALight]

Um, no. There's no WR that comes CLOSE to Moss in the AFC West.

I said it was debatable, not that he wasn't the best overall WR in the West. Moss's best atribute is that he's a home run threat. In other areas of the game there are better WR's in the west then him. Overall Moss still takes the crown IMO, but it is debatable.

[Northman]

Vote!

The Boy Wonder :super:


**** yea Waffle! nice avatar! woot! man, i hope he does well for you guys.

[Alkazar]

Moss definately has talent, but until he matures he won't be a complete weapon like Rod so I chose "Other" since you didn't put Rod on the list.

[Kaylore]

Waffle and his lame polls. Its Moss.

[elsid13]

Voted other for LT. Any time a RB can make 100 rec and over 1000 rushing that is a weapon

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Moss definately has talent, but until he matures he won't be a complete weapon like Rod so I chose "Other" since you didn't put Rod on the list.

ROFL!

[broncos love]

I will say jeb putzier is the best weapon in the afc bar none

[Tha rock]

I would say Moss!! But I'm pullin' for the Boy Wonder!! Vincent Jackson!!
AFC rookie of the year!! ;D Go Bears!



It would have to be moss hands down but I do like vince jackson I just hate the team he went to he might be the next T.o is what I here on Nfl total access. I have also heard fred Ex is on his way to check out broncos facility does anyone know anything about that.

[DB-Freak]

Moss definately has talent, but until he matures he won't be a complete weapon like Rod so I chose "Other" since you didn't put Rod on the list.
Wow...........

some people need to get a grip.

[Taco John]

Vote!

The Boy Wonder :super:



What a stupid poll. Quit wasting bandwidth with moronic drivel.

[Taco John]

All this is, is a homer test, and people are failing it misrably...

If you said anyone other than Moss, I'm sorry, but you're a hopeless homer. It's not even close.

[DB-Freak]

All this is, is a homer test, and people are failing it misrably...

If you said anyone other than Moss, I'm sorry, but you're a hopeless homer. It's not even close.
I love Rod, but there is no way he is anywhere close to moss. And Moss is not the same type of receiver that he was during his first few years in the league.

Still i love rod.

[Tha rock]

Moss has really kept his consistency from rookie year with chris carters help the only other wide outs who can compare to moss is T.O, moose muhaamud,jerry rice thats it.

[Sassy]

I'll take ROD over Moss and Lelie as our WEAPON...how many PI calls did he get last year ;D

[Tha rock]

who can do more down the strech and rod cant even beat double coverages there is no way rod over moss.

[Champbaileystopsmoss]

who can do more down the strech and rod cant even beat double coverages there is no way rod over moss.

Whoa! the rod knows the game better than anyone in the NFL, he has 2 super bowl rings for a reason. Now the answer to this thread is yes moss... but i would take ROD over moss any day!

[Northman]

who can do more down the strech and rod cant even beat double coverages there is no way rod over moss.


Moss can only beat double coverages when he feels like playing. of course that would be every other play so it wouldnt do him much good if he didnt show up all the time. Moss has skillz but he is a toolshed and a Canker sore waiting to happen. no thanks, ill take the guy who has two Super Bowl rings and a great attitude in Smith.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Whoa! the rod knows the game better than anyone in the NFL, he has 2 super bowl rings for a reason. Now the answer to this thread is yes moss... but i would take ROD over moss any day!

That's because you're a delusional homer.

[Spider]

All this is, is a homer test, and people are failing it misrably...

If you said anyone other than Moss, I'm sorry, but you're a hopeless homer. It's not even close.
Depends ....... Seriously , when it comes to blocking , Rod hands down , I saw Rod take on the DE for the Vikes one on one , Route Running = Rod , he isnt the fastest , but he is Crisp , Pure pass catching , Speed and and leaping = Randy Moss ....... alot of it depends on the offense you run , then you have to factor in the TE , he has more effect on the passing game , If Moss would have went ot the Chiefs or the Chargers , then we are toast , he who controls the Hashmarks with a TE , controls the game , and it is still true today ..
So since we are a running team , Moss wouldnt Replace Rod per say , We need the down field blocking , we need the Stud TE to control the hashmarks ......

[Macnut]

It might be the homer in me but I believe Lelie could come close to Moss given the right QB. How successfully would Moss be if he had Plummer throwing to him in Denvers offense? Not very in my opinion. If Lelie had Dante throwing to him, he would be alot more successful than he is now with Plummer at QB. Still Moss is the King.

[Kaylore]

It might be the homer in me but I believe Lelie could come close to Moss given the right QB. How successfully would Moss be if he had Plummer throwing to him in Denvers offense? Not very in my opinion. If Lelie had Dante throwing to him, he would be alot more successful than he is now with Plummer at QB. Still Moss is the King.
I have to disagree. I think Lelie will be an awesome weapon, but Moss was amazing right out of the chute and has been dominant. He is HOF worthy. Lelie, at this point anyway, isn't.

[Macnut]

I have to disagree. I think Lelie will be an awesome weapon, but Moss was amazing right out of the chute and has been dominant. He is HOF worthy. Lelie, at this point anyway, isn't.
Like I said, Switch the QBs and Lelies #'s would jump up considerably while Moss would dive down. Still Moss is better.

[Taco John]

Depends ....... Seriously , when it comes to blocking , Rod hands down , I saw Rod take on the DE for the Vikes one on one , Route Running = Rod , he isnt the fastest , but he is Crisp , Pure pass catching , Speed and and leaping = Randy Moss ....... alot of it depends on the offense you run , then you have to factor in the TE , he has more effect on the passing game , If Moss would have went ot the Chiefs or the Chargers , then we are toast , he who controls the Hashmarks with a TE , controls the game , and it is still true today ..
So since we are a running team , Moss wouldnt Replace Rod per say , We need the down field blocking , we need the Stud TE to control the hashmarks ......



Uh... No, it doesn't depend at all. The question is who is the best weapon at receiver in the AFC West. The answer is Randy Moss. Any answer past that is nothing but homerism any way you want to look at it. You can split it out and try to factor in TEs and coaches and waterboys if you want. The answer is still going to be that Moss is the best weapon at receiver in the AFC West.

[watermock]

As a HornHead, I didn't like the Moss trade, especially since they passed on BMW for Williamson. They could of moved down to get him.

They got Nap Harris and a green rookie with speed. We will see if Williamson is all he is cracked up to be, but Mike Williams is so damn strong in all phases. On draft day, between Minnesota passing on Williams and Denver taking a midget at least a round early, I just turned it to Lifetime.

[Tha rock]

Moss is the top wide out in the Afc hands down argubly in the leauge how could a guy whos not even on the radar be better than moss, jerry porter is better than rod moss hands down still.

[watermock]

Go take a shiat and come back. Jerry Porter is better than Rod Smith? Give me a break. Why do you think they almost let him go and traded for Moss?

OH, and welcome to the franchise tag with Woodson. Oakland will win 5 or 6 games next year. You just traded your #1 pick and Harris, and spent a hundred million on a crackhead.

The world doesn't spin around Randy Moss. I will tell you one other thing. Randy Moss has a chronic ankle that makes him take alot of plays off. It's a stone cold fact he can't play with pain like a Rod Smith, who played on two broken legs. This isn't even to mention that moss carried a 10 million dollar tag.

Have fun with him, Minnesota is overjoyed he's gone.

[Blueflame]

Moss is the top wide out in the Afc hands down argubly in the leauge how could a guy whos not even on the radar be better than moss, jerry porter is better than rod moss hands down still.

Raider fans can claim that Jerry Porter is better than Rod Smith... but that's not what nfl.com says. Not only did Rod put up better numbers than Porter last year, but so did Lelie.

[Sarcastro]

It has to be Lelie. I mean this guy had Plummer throwing to him and he still put up over 1,000 yards.

[watermock]

Man of War would of kicked all their asses.

[2KBack]

Moss has really kept his consistency from rookie year with chris carters help the only other wide outs who can compare to moss is T.O, moose muhaamud,jerry rice thats it.


you lumped Mussim Muhammad (sp?) in with TO, Moss, and Rice? I Guess Marvin Harrison, Chad Johnson, Rod Smith, and Hines Ward are all scrubs.

[Spider]

Uh... No, it doesn't depend at all. The question is who is the best weapon at receiver in the AFC West. The answer is Randy Moss. Any answer past that is nothing but homerism any way you want to look at it. You can split it out and try to factor in TEs and coaches and waterboys if you want. The answer is still going to be that Moss is the best weapon at receiver in the AFC West.
Sure it does .... If you dont have a TE that can control the hashmarks , then teams can "Stair case "or "Book end" Randy moss all day .......a weapon is only as good as the team that is using it .....

[TheDave]

Randy Moss... (((Shudders))) why do i fear this guy is going to cost us a game a year for a while! Here's to hoping the immaturity and brain farts continue!

[WaffleBoy]

.......a weapon is only as good as the team that is using it .....

I agree that Randy Moss is not the sure answer. Let's see how productive he is without Culpepper and the dome. Gonzalez would be a good debate IMO.

The Boy Wonder :super:

[Spider]

I agree that Randy Moss is not the sure answer. Let's see how productive he is without Culpepper and the dome. Gonzalez would be a good debate IMO.

The Boy Wonder :super:
;D Gonzo and Moss on the same team ...... or Moss with the chargers ...... Nevermind I will be having nightmares tonight if I keep on this line of thinking ;D

[WaffleBoy]

;D Gonzo and Moss on the same team ...... or Moss with the chargers ...... Nevermind I will be having nightmares tonight if I keep on this line of thinking ;D

Bailey is already having nightmares.

The Boy Wonder :super:

[yavoon]

excellent homer bait thread.

[Sassy]

The world doesn't spin around Randy Moss. I will tell you one other thing. Randy Moss has a chronic ankle that makes him take alot of plays off. It's a stone cold fact he can't play with pain like a Rod Smith, who played on two broken legs. This isn't even to mention that moss carried a 10 million dollar tag.

Have fun with him, Minnesota is overjoyed he's gone.
:thumbsup:
Let's just see how Mr. Moss does this year...

[broncohaven]

All this is, is a homer test, and people are failing it misrably...

If you said anyone other than Moss, I'm sorry, but you're a hopeless homer. It's not even close.
Bingo. I thought the mane would do better than this. I lean towards the Homer end of the spectrum, but this should be a complete no brainer. The fact that it doesn't play that way in the poll is pitiful.

[broncohaven]

Sure it does .... If you dont have a TE that can control the hashmarks , then teams can "Stair case "or "Book end" Randy moss all day .......a weapon is only as good as the team that is using it .....
Get a grip Spidey. You, and anyone else arguing this, sound absurd.

[Spider]

Get a grip Spidey. You, and anyone else arguing this, sound absurd.
I suggest you get a grip ....... Tell me how many Rings Does moss have ?
How many does manning Have ........
News flash , Elway the greastest QB in the NFL , didnt get a ring untill he got a team ..............This isnt rocket science ...........

[WaffleBoy]

Let's see how good the "best" weapon is without Culpepper and the dome.

The Boy Wonder :super:

[Spider]

Let's see how good the "best" weapon is without Culpepper and the dome.

The Boy Wonder :super:
Thats true , catching the Ball in controled conditions isnt the same as being in the elements ......

[yavoon]

Let's see how good the "best" weapon is without Culpepper and the dome.

The Boy Wonder :super:

as opposed to lets not see? its amazing u can get neg rep for such weak sauce posts.

[BlaK-Argentina]

How did Moss play the last time he faced Bailey? (just asking)

[Tha rock]

How can anyone say that rod smith compares to moss and his routes are more crisp rod does not run the roues as crisp as moss and hes not as fast. Jerry porter is hella of alot better than rod smith hes just not getting used as much and I really think this will be one of collins break out years with porter and moss. like I said porter is raw and he can beat double coverrages and can beat up on so called shut down corners something I have not seen rod do. I will admit rod is tough and good so he on the top Afc west wideouts along with porter, gonzo,gates,lelie,mcardell these are all good wide outs but moss is the best threat of all.

[WaffleBoy]

as opposed to lets not see? its amazing u can get neg rep for such weak sauce posts.

It's amazing, isn't it? ;D

The Boy Wonder :super:

[WaffleBoy]

How did Moss play the last time he faced Bailey? (just asking)

I don't think they ever faced each other. However, I would think the Broncos coaching staff would double Moss instead of playing Bailey on him without a safety. Moss is known to catch alot of passes without being open.

The Boy Wonder :super:

[Tha rock]

you lumped Mussim Muhammad (sp?) in with TO, Moss, and Rice? I Guess Marvin Harrison, Chad Johnson, Rod Smith, and Hines Ward are all scrubs.


No I forgot to mention marvin, chad ,Rod but hines is not compared with these guys like moose, rice,T.O.,moss and so on.

[Spider]

How can anyone say that rod smith compares to moss and his routes are more crisp rod does not run the roues as crisp as moss and hes not as fast. Jerry porter is hella of alot better than rod smith hes just not getting used as much and I really think this will be one of collins break out years with porter and moss. like I said porter is raw and he can beat double coverrages and can beat up on so called shut down corners something I have not seen rod do. I will admit rod is tough and good so he on the top Afc west wideouts along with porter, gonzo,gates,lelie,mcardell these are all good wide outs but moss is the best threat of all.
If you only had a clue ............

[Tha rock]

Had a clue that moss is better than any wide out in the Afc west and argubly in leauge or that porter needs to have another breakout year to quiet his critics.

[Spider]

Had a clue that moss is better than any wide out in the Afc west and argubly in leauge or that porter needs to have another breakout year to quiet his critics.
Sure you did ....... Tell me kiddo , name another Reciever in the NFC north like Moss , and yet no rings ........

[Tha rock]

Rings dont matter for someone who is destined for the hall in canton as well as one of greatest wide outs to play the game. I rest my case!!!

[Spider]

Rings dont matter for someone who is destined for the hall in canton as well as one of greatest wide outs to play the game. I rest my case!!!
Rings dont matter ??? Hilarious! . if you say so

[RhymesayersDU]

I know Moss is the best receiver not only in the West, but like top-3 in the whole NFL.

With that said, it's called homerism people. I voted Lelie, and am damn proud too.

[Tha rock]

Rings dont matter ??? Hilarious! . if you say so


Its like saying would you want to have five minutes of fame or an eternity of it. or saying hero or legend there is no comparison.

[Tha rock]

I know Moss is the best receiver not only in the West, but like top-3 in the whole NFL.

With that said, it's called homerism people. I voted Lelie, and am damn proud too.


see he knows moss is one of the best.

[Spider]

Its like saying would you want to have five minutes of fame or an eternity of it. or saying hero or legend there is no comparison.
you are so full of Shet , I think your eyes are brown ........ 5 minutes of Fame for winning a SB ....... Hilarious! , I got the feeling not to many people here take you serious

[Maurice_Clarett]

Dude, I am not talking about any reciever in the AFC bad... but anybody who does not think Moss is the best now in the AFC is a total homer moron.

This is the dumbest poll I have ever seen, why do you never see me brag on Moss? Because you all know he is the man and it serves no purpose

[Tha rock]

you are so full of Shet , I think your eyes are brown ........ 5 minutes of Fame for winning a SB ....... Hilarious! , I got the feeling not to many people here take you serious


There is always another team who wins the Sb and your forgotten!! in canton your there forever. with what your posts are saying there is brocnco fans not taking you serious.

[Spider]

Dude, I am not talking about any reciever in the AFC bad... but anybody who does not think Moss is the best now in the AFC is a total homer moron.

This is the dumbest poll I have ever seen, why do you never see me brag on Moss? Because you all know he is the man and it serves no purpose
Point is , a weapon is only as good as the team around him ........ If that wasnt the case Randy and Peyton would have seen the Super Bowl in Person ..... Now i know some here think that Rings dont matter , but they do .......

[Maurice_Clarett]

Point is , a weapon is only as good as the team around him ........ If that wasnt the case Randy and Peyton would have seen the Super Bowl in Person ..... Now i know some here think that Rings dont matter , but they do .......

Why do you think Shanarat took so many CB's in the draft Spider?

[Spider]

There is always another team who wins the Sb and your forgotten!! in canton your there forever. with what your posts are saying there is brocnco fans not taking you serious.
you are right everyone has forgotten the Name Trint Dilfer , Jim Plunkett , Doug Williams,Terrell Davis , Phill Simms , Don Bebee , Art Monk , Sammy Smith ,Antonio Freeman , Haven Moses , Rick upchurch ....... you goofball

[Spider]

Why do you think Shanarat took so many CB's in the draft Spider?
you cant be serious after Deltha O'Neal pick ........ I think thats a given .......

[Tha rock]

Point is , a weapon is only as good as the team around him ........ If that wasnt the case Randy and Peyton would have seen the Super Bowl in Person ..... Now i know some here think that Rings dont matter , but they do .......


They dont get remenerd like the guys in the hall is all im saying!!!

[Tha rock]

you cant be serious after Deltha O'Neal pick ........ I think thats a given .......


what given moss is a threat so there is corners coming to denver chump cant do it on his own he couldnt cover porter.

[Spider]

They dont get remenerd like the guys in the hall is all im saying!!!
you're an Idiot !!!!!!!!!!! ....

[Spider]

I want MC to answer his own dumb ass question ....... Remember Dale Cater MC ? hell we tried to land him beofre Moss ever came here ............ all I want is you to think about your question MC , answer it for yourself ...... Denver has always been looking for the CB position , From O'Neal , MiddleBust , Cater , Denard Walker , Walls , all these guys beofre Moss came here .........

[Tha rock]

Ok your the idiot thats saying guys in the hall dont get remembered more than Sb champs thats a team not a single individual.

[Spider]

Ok your the idiot thats saying guys in the hall dont get remembered more than Sb champs thats a team not a single individual.
LOL ..... New to the sport I see ........

[Tha rock]

I want MC to answer his own dumb ass question ....... Remember Dale Cater MC ? hell we tried to land him beofre Moss ever came here ............ all I want is you to think about your question MC , answer it for yourself ...... Denver has always been looking for the CB position , From O'Neal , MiddleBust , Cater , Denard Walker , Walls , all these guys beofre Moss came here .........


They were looking becuse chump got slammed by porter.

[Tha rock]

LOL ..... New to the sport I see ........


No!!! not really I here a whole lot of guys saying canton rather than SB rings.

[Spider]

Let me guess M.C. Shanny Knew Moss was comming , Back when Denver tried to get Carter , Drafted O'Neal ,MiddleBrooks , Picked up Denard Walker so they would be ready for Moss when he got here right ........

[Spider]

No!!! not really I here a whole lot of guys saying canton rather than SB rings.
Amazing you can hear anything with your head that far up your own ass ......

[Tha rock]

Let me guess M.C. Shanny Knew Moss was comming , Back when Denver tried to get Carter , Drafted O'Neal ,MiddleBrooks , Picked up Denard Walker so they would be ready for Moss when he got here right ........


No becuse chump couldnt cover porter and needed help!!! Just admit it your in denial.

[Spider]

They were looking becuse chump got slammed by porter.
Champ got Slammed by Poter when Dale Carter was here ?
Deltha was here when that Happened ?
keep Reaching , you are starting to sound like the Rock .........

[Tha rock]

Amazing you can hear anything with your head that far up your own ass ......


spider is clearly in denial!!! you can tell hes a poor sport if he starts whining like this.

[2KBack]

I pose this question to "tha rock."

How many of these remembered HOF recievers played for winning teams, Championship teams (rings) or were thrown to by a HOF QB?

[Spider]

No becuse chump couldnt cover porter and needed help!!! Just admit it your in denial.
you retard , Champ wasnt even in Denver when we tried to get those Guys .. Damn you are either realy stupid , or drunk .........

[Tha rock]

Champ got Slammed by Poter when Dale Carter was here ?
Deltha was here when that Happened ?
keep Reaching , you are starting to sound like the Rock .........


Look all this comes down to is that Moss came over and hes a big threat no matter whos on him as well as porter was here and played big aginst bailey and chump cant cover porter he cant cover moss so the broncs drafted Cb and moss is one of the best wideots face it just becuse hes on an opposing team that does not mean his talent is not there.

[Tha rock]

I pose this question to "tha rock."

How many of these remembered HOF recievers played for winning teams, Championship teams (rings) or were thrown to by a HOF QB?


Alot of them but there is also alot who werent on Sb teams im not saying rings are nothing but as an individual you want to be the best at what you do so that means your shooting for canton.

[Tha rock]

you retard , Champ wasnt even in Denver when we tried to get those Guys .. Damn you are either realy stupid , or drunk .........


I didnt say they were there did I. your still in denial.

[Spider]

LOL , you assclown , you and MC brought up the Point Denver is Bringing in all these CB's and when I pointed out , we have been doing that since Shanny got here , I am the one in Denial Hilarious! .....class dismissed Kiddies

[Tha rock]

LOL , you assclown , you and MC brought up the Point Denver is Bringing in all these CB's and when I pointed out , we have been doing that since Shanny got here , I am the one in Denial Hilarious! .....class dismissed Kiddies


so thats why you kept drafting Dbs it doesnt matter in the past he did it for a specific reason this season moss.

[Spider]

so thats why you kept drafting Dbs it doesnt matter in the past he did it for a specific reason this season moss.
LOL ...... Sure thing Kiddo , Denver has Been trying for Corners for 10 Years , but this year it is because of Moss ...........good thinking

[2KBack]

Look all this comes down to is that Moss came over and hes a big threat no matter whos on him as well as porter was here and played big aginst bailey and chump cant cover porter he cant cover moss so the broncs drafted Cb and moss is one of the best wideots face it just becuse hes on an opposing team that does not mean his talent is not there.

no one here has denied that Moss is as talented as a WR comes. It just takes more than that, his talent hasn't really resulted in a whole lot of wins back in Minny.

In football, your success is hinged on your teammates more than any other sport. I can't imagine someone saying, I want to be in the HOF, super bowls aren't important. That alienates every other guy on your team that is fightin for a win come sunday.

also, I'm pretty sure the sudden CB influx is more a result of Peyton than anyone in the AFC West.

[Tha rock]

For all I know they could have been drafting for depth or looking for good tacklers or someone posed a threat on the vertical game it doesnt matter. This season was for a specific need moss.

[Tha rock]

no one here has denied that Moss is as talented as a WR comes. It just takes more than that, his talent hasn't really resulted in a whole lot of wins back in Minny.

In football, your success is hinged on your teammates more than any other sport. I can't imagine someone saying, I want to be in the HOF, super bowls aren't important. That alienates every other guy on your team that is fightin for a win come sunday.

also, I'm pretty sure the sudden CB influx is more a result of Peyton than anyone in the AFC West.


Exactly!! peyton or moss whatever the reason it was a specfic need that would need to be filled. It does not alienate evryone on your team that you want to play to perfection and get it done I also never said Sbs werent important I was saying that guys make to the Nfl and want that felling of knowing they played to there full potential and that they were great in there time.

[2KBack]

my point is, Moss doesn't play to perfection, he doesn't play anywhere near a constant level of greatness. He could, but that would mean playing every down, blocking, staying on the field for the entire game, taking some blame for losses, playing a leadership role. The BEST weapons do more than what Moss has shown he is willing to do.

[Tha rock]

I disagree moss is headed toward the hall hes also a leader on the field and I agree he could try evry down but regardless he gets the job done and is one of the greatet the NFl has seen regfaurdless of what anyone says.

[Bronx33]

my point is, Moss doesn't play to perfection, he doesn't play anywhere near a constant level of greatness. He could, but that would mean playing every down, blocking, staying on the field for the entire game, taking some blame for losses, playing a leadership role. The BEST weapons do more than what Moss has shown he is willing to do.


But he did stay at a holiday inn once..............

[Bronx33]

I really could care less if moss goes to canton......

[WaffleBoy]

If Moss does make it to the Hall, I would love to hear his induction speech. "I played when I wanted to play." Hilarious!

The Boy Wonder :super:

[Bronx33]

If Moss does make it to the Hall, I would love to hear his induction speech. "I played when I wanted to play." Hilarious!

The Boy Wonder :super:


LOL ..................I was a team player that thought of nothing more than my self, chris carter had nothing to do with my success ect ect ect.

[-Slap-]

Since Kennison is inexplicably absent from my ballot, I would be tempted to pick Moss. I won't though, because he's a pecker.

If Moss' first signs of physical breakdown last year develop into a trend this year and if Ashley Lelie has a bigger breakout season than most are still expecting, its not inconceivable that Lelie will outproduce Moss this year and from here on out.

[-Slap-]

If Moss does make it to the Hall, I would love to hear his induction speech. "I played when I wanted to play." Hilarious!

The Boy Wonder :super:

I'm confident he'll be the same drawling, ungracious ass he's always been.

[Tha rock]

slap I dont know about that lelie isnt even amongst the top 5 wideoute in the NFl.

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slap I dont know about that lelie isnt even amongst the top 5 wideoute in the NFl.

Nope. Not even close. Lelie does have at least top ten WR talent, if he really blossoms this season.

I'm just saying that Moss has been very healthy up until last season. I would guess that since his ability is so God gifted he might not work as diligently as an average athlete such as Rod Smith. Maybe he does and he'll play his usual 16 games next season. For the first time ever you have to wonder about his physical status just a little bit.

In no way am I expecting Lelie to outproduce Moss this season, but it wouldn't be completely shocking.

[Tha rock]

He was still very productive even well hurt and still had some spectacular games and broke on double coverages. Maybe he has top 10 but thats maybe on lelile.

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He was still very productive even well hurt and still had some spectacular games and broke on double coverages. Maybe he has top 10 but thats maybe on lelile.

Moss missed three games with a hamstring injury and he was practically worthless in four others. He also made token appearances in two games strictly as a concession to a consecutive games streak, which is fairly consistent with Randy's priorities. He did play pretty well in his return, but he couldn't do enough to prevent Minnesota's annual winter slide.

[Bronx33]

Moss = Loss

[Odysseus]

Is anyone willing to go on record saying that Randy Moss is going to the pro bowl this year?

[Bronx33]

Is anyone willing to go on record saying that Randy Moss is going to the pro bowl this year?


SURE! but he will be injured in regular season, so the alternate will play.

[Tha rock]

yeah ok guys keep living in fantasy land.