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Billy Clyde Puckett
04-25-2005, 05:15 PM
I heard this kid on the way home today and if he makes the team, I think he will become a very popular player. He had obviously not been coached by his agent on how to talk to the press so he was very open and showed a lot of personality and intelligence. He is having the time of his life. Major points:

Thinks directional punting and kickoffs are his strongest point.
Did most of his workouts for scouts in Phoenix to prove he could punt/kick at near sea level.
Never missed an extra point (perfect for a BU kicker)
Only about 5 of his kickoffs did not go through the end zone all year and they were planned "sky kicks" to pin the opponent deep.
Played linebacker and enjoys getting into the tackle once in a while.

He was very refreshing. I am certainly hoping this is the Broncs punter for the next 10-15 years.

KansasBronco
04-25-2005, 05:18 PM
Thanks for the report. I hope it wins it also. Even if we have a few growing pains with a rookie, please don't make me ever watch Baker punt for us again.

Odysseus
04-25-2005, 05:21 PM
If Big Guy is on board then I'm sold.

ØrangeÇrush
04-25-2005, 05:45 PM
I agree quiettiger...if Big Guy is allright with it...so am I.

watermock
04-25-2005, 06:11 PM
How amusing.

Some kid hits a late round pick, doesn't have a clue how to present himself, could only hit 50 percent of his kicks at IAA, punted for one year, and because Big Guy says he's the next the next Ray Guy and Linebacker your all buying into it.

This always happens two days after the draft. All reason goes to the wind and pengins hit the homer parade off the cliffs.

Tombstone RJ
04-25-2005, 06:15 PM
The chefs took a punter in the third round. It will be fun to compare the chef's pick with the Bronco's pick to see which team got it right.

Billy Clyde Puckett
04-25-2005, 06:34 PM
How amusing.

Some kid hits a late round pick, doesn't have a clue how to present himself, could only hit 50 percent of his kicks at IAA, punted for one year, and because Big Guy says he's the next the next Ray Guy and Linebacker your all buying into it.

This always happens two days after the draft. All reason goes to the wind and pengins hit the homer parade off the cliffs.

Sorry it came across to you that way Mock, I just said he was fun and refreshing to hear so I am cheering for him. If he is the next Ray Guy, fantastic. If he is a flop, he still sounds like a great kid and I hope he has a great life.

footstepsfrom#27
04-25-2005, 07:14 PM
I hope this guy makes the team as a punter and handles the kickoff chores with the same success he had in college. I've been wondering for ages why they can't find somebody that can reach the end zone. We wind up giving the other team the ball at the 35 yard line about half the time because Elam doesn't have the distance. Which brings up another point; how is it that a guy who can kick a 63 yard FG can't hit the end zone? Makes no sense to me. Maybe this dude's the answer. They need somebody.

IbleedORANGEandBLUE
04-25-2005, 07:20 PM
i just hope the best for him...he doesnt have much pressure or expectation placed on him, so i hope he succeeds, and fills the void on special teams the the broncos...it would be a big plus for us

ØrangeÇrush
04-25-2005, 07:31 PM
How amusing.

Some kid hits a late round pick, doesn't have a clue how to present himself, could only hit 50 percent of his kicks at IAA, punted for one year, and because Big Guy says he's the next the next Ray Guy and Linebacker your all buying into it.

This always happens two days after the draft. All reason goes to the wind and pengins hit the homer parade off the cliffs.


Its your lack of optimism and hope that has driven you to alcohol Watermock, I'm sure of it..you should try some positive thinking one of these days. :)

Ballhawk
04-25-2005, 07:35 PM
How amusing.

Some kid hits a late round pick, doesn't have a clue how to present himself, could only hit 50 percent of his kicks at IAA, punted for one year, and because Big Guy says he's the next the next Ray Guy and Linebacker your all buying into it.

This always happens two days after the draft. All reason goes to the wind and pengins hit the homer parade off the cliffs.

Damn Mock he is here to handle KO and Punting...and if you could, can you break down the complexities of Punting the ball that would take more than a year to learn.

watermock
04-25-2005, 07:41 PM
What makes you think he will be better than Nick Harris?

Pendejo
04-25-2005, 07:43 PM
He can't be much worse than Baker or Knorr...even if he sucks astronomically. The Donks' kicking game is horrible.

Ballhawk
04-25-2005, 07:59 PM
What makes you think he will be better than Nick Harris?

7th round pick instead of 4th...but overall he sounds like a decent kicker even with limited experience. Punting is just one of those things you can do or can't. If he nailed 19 of 20 inside the 20, he seems to have grasped how to place kicks, the hardest part.

If he does not pan out how are we worse than last year? I am just not going to rip into a 7th round punter because he has 1 year under his belt.

Nuggets4
04-25-2005, 08:18 PM
I just love his bio on his webpage.

labronco
04-25-2005, 09:41 PM
Coming out of I-AA, he's intriguing. You can't compare him to anybody, yet. He's here to compete against Baker. Nick Haris or not, I'd give him an even chance to win the job. If he happens to have some personality, that's great. But he's still a punter. Let's not spend too much time on this.

Odysseus
04-25-2005, 09:47 PM
The chefs took a punter in the third round. It will be fun to compare the chef's pick with the Bronco's pick to see which team got it right.

It would be sweet if this kid improved our Special Teams for a 6th. I guess we'll have to see the season full speed to get the answer to that.

enjolras
04-25-2005, 09:56 PM
I thought he was a 7th?:)

DBroncos4life
04-25-2005, 10:00 PM
What makes you think he will be better than Nick Harris?



Seriously why do you got to try and piss on the people that have a good attitude about the team? Big Guy posts that the kid has a good attitude, loves life, and is happy and all you can say is blah blah this blah blah bad. It gets old.

Drek
04-26-2005, 04:49 AM
At least the guy can kick the ball down the field. All but 5 kickoffs through the endzone? Thats a beaster leg, with power like that he can't be worse than our punters from last year.

Odysseus
04-26-2005, 05:04 AM
I thought he was a 7th?:)

I didn't post 6th. That was Clarett. He was using my computer and my IP address. I hate when that happens.

Needa Pass Rush
04-26-2005, 05:50 AM
I hope this guy makes the team as a punter and handles the kickoff chores with the same success he had in college. I've been wondering for ages why they can't find somebody that can reach the end zone. We wind up giving the other team the ball at the 35 yard line about half the time because Elam doesn't have the distance. Which brings up another point; how is it that a guy who can kick a 63 yard FG can't hit the end zone? Makes no sense to me. Maybe this dude's the answer. They need somebody.

Do they use a "K" ball in college? The dynamics will change in the pros. Hopefully, he can still have similar success. He will be able to learn a lot from Elam, I'm sure.

Mile High Shack
04-26-2005, 07:32 AM
Anyone who doesn’t outkick the coverage or kick it in the endzone everytime is fine with me for punting and Baker sucked at kicking off.

bendog
04-26-2005, 08:05 AM
He sucked at punting too.

Master___Pain
04-26-2005, 08:06 AM
What makes you think he will be better than Nick Harris?

FWIW, Nick Harris is still in the NFL. With a robust 40.2 yards per kick average.

On the subject of punters, did the kid from BYU, Payne, get picked up?

TheDave
04-26-2005, 08:08 AM
Anyone who doesn’t outkick the coverage or kick it in the endzone everytime is fine with me for punting and Baker sucked at kicking off.

Hell with the way our special teams was last year i would be happy if the just booted every ball out the back of the endzone. No worrying about hang time, direction, etc. just kick the thing as far and straight as you can!

Bronco_Beerslug
04-26-2005, 08:32 AM
I heard this kid on the way home today and if he makes the team, I think he will become a very popular player. He had obviously not been coached by his agent on how to talk to the press so he was very open and showed a lot of personality and intelligence. He is having the time of his life. Major points:

Thinks directional punting and kickoffs are his strongest point.
Did most of his workouts for scouts in Phoenix to prove he could punt/kick at near sea level.
Never missed an extra point (perfect for a BU kicker)
Only about 5 of his kickoffs did not go through the end zone all year and they were planned "sky kicks" to pin the opponent deep.
Played linebacker and enjoys getting into the tackle once in a while.

He was very refreshing. I am certainly hoping this is the Broncs punter for the next 10-15 years.


Our best draft pick (steal of the draft)!!!!!!!!!


Booming talent
By ED ODEVEN
Sun Sports Staff
08/29/2004
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illbroncsfn
04-26-2005, 10:39 AM
If Todd Sauerbrun is around as a June 1st cap casualty I would prefer for him to handle our punting duties.

Although it was quite a while a go, as a rookie for the Bears Sauerbrun handled the kickoff duties so he could be a perfect fit.

stoxman
04-26-2005, 02:19 PM
Broncos | Ernster Could See Holding Duties - from www.KFFL.com
Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:20:07 -0700

Andrew Mason, of DenverBroncos.com, reports Denver Broncos P Paul Ernster, a 2005 seventh-round selection, could be used as the team's placekick holder this season.

Broncoman13
04-26-2005, 03:49 PM
Coming out of I-AA, he's intriguing. You can't compare him to anybody, yet. He's here to compete against Baker. Nick Haris or not, I'd give him an even chance to win the job. If he happens to have some personality, that's great. But he's still a punter. Let's not spend too much time on this.


Punters are vastly underrated in the NFL. I'd be willing to pay Shane Lechler as much as Elam, VanderJagt or any other kicker in the league. A good punter can swing FP and give you an additional 40-50 yards PER GAME. That's a lot if you consider most offenses avg right around 360 yards of total offense per game. Add 50 to that and you're sitting at 410 yards per game. It's doesn't go in the offensive or defensive categories but it's all relative!

stoxman
04-26-2005, 03:56 PM
Punters are vastly underrated in the NFL. I'd be willing to pay Shane Lechler as much as Elam, VanderJagt or any other kicker in the league. A good punter can swing FP and give you an additional 40-50 yards PER GAME. That's a lot if you consider most offenses avg right around 360 yards of total offense per game. Add 50 to that and you're sitting at 410 yards per game. It's doesn't go in the offensive or defensive categories but it's all relative!

Agreed!

sirhcyennek81
04-26-2005, 04:10 PM
Ernester is already better then any punter on the roster. How a punter cant average 44 ypk in denver is amazing. betting he makes it to the final roster.

Kaylore
04-26-2005, 04:24 PM
Ernester is already better then any punter on the roster. How a punter cant average 44 ypk in denver is amazing. betting he makes it to the final roster.
Yeah, half your games a mile above sea level leaves little excuses. I hope he makes things easier for us. That he did all his workouts at sea level gives me hope he's better than what we've been playing with forever.

Odysseus
04-26-2005, 10:42 PM
Punters are vastly underrated in the NFL. I'd be willing to pay Shane Lechler as much as Elam, VanderJagt or any other kicker in the league. A good punter can swing FP and give you an additional 40-50 yards PER GAME. That's a lot if you consider most offenses avg right around 360 yards of total offense per game. Add 50 to that and you're sitting at 410 yards per game. It's doesn't go in the offensive or defensive categories but it's all relative!

Agreed...

Question: How do you get back 100 yards from penalties, 100 yards from missed opportunities on turnovers, 100 yards from missed tackles, 100 yards from bad punts, 100 yards from bad kick offs, 100 yards from mistakes on special teams covered, 100 yards from bad field position and 100 yards from not having a KR/PR guy?

ANSWER: You can't.

The problem with the Broncos is execution. It doesn't matter if your offense is clicking and your defense is top rated if you can't master the details of your game. People get focused on what happens on third down but never evaluate how the heck did they get there in the first place.

Special teams is going to help our bottom line stats improve. Special teams, if done well, will never get any credit but likewise even if it's abysmal rarely catches blame at the end of the season. It's the hidden factor in football and one where it is too easy to make a difference.

If you want to have fun with math do your own special teams equations.

Real numbers:
X = number of yards on offense +/-
Y = number of yards on defense +/-
P= number of penalties +/-
S = number of yards on Special Teams +/-

Imaginary numbers:
F= number of yards they SHOULDA/COULDA +/-
(Missed opportunities)

Naw...This is bogus. It's too complicated! How the heck can anyone know what a missed opportunity is? Forget about it. What was I thinking?! I guess I was trying to create an exception report to isolate the key variance I am trying to relate in common terms. Never mind. Forget I mentioned it.

I wonder how much in penalty fines are paid out by ball hawking safeties versus the "hard hitting" ones? I wonder if there is a big difference in the numbers?

I wuv maff.

Champbaileystopsmoss
04-26-2005, 11:02 PM
Agreed...

Question: How do you get back 100 yards from penalties, 100 yards from missed opportunities on turnovers, 100 yards from missed tackles, 100 yards from bad punts, 100 yards from bad kick offs, 100 yards from mistakes on special teams covered, 100 yards from bad field position and 100 yards from not having a KR/PR guy?

ANSWER: You can't.

The problem with the Broncos is execution. It doesn't matter if your offense is clicking and your defense is top rated if you can't master the details of your game. People get focused on what happens on third down but never evaluate how the heck did they get there in the first place.

Special teams is going to help our bottom line stats improve. Special teams, if done well, will never get any credit but likewise even if it's abysmal rarely catches blame at the end of the season. It's the hidden factor in football and one where it is too easy to make a difference.

If you want to have fun with math do your own special teams equations.

Real numbers:
X = number of yards on offense +/-
Y = number of yards on defense +/-
P= number of penalties +/-
S = number of yards on Special Teams +/-

Imaginary numbers:
F= number of yards they SHOULDA/COULDA +/-
(Missed opportunities)

Naw...This is bogus. It's too complicated! How the heck can anyone know what a missed opportunity is? Forget about it. What was I thinking?! I guess I was trying to create an exception report to isolate the key variance I am trying to relate in common terms. Never mind. Forget I mentioned it.

I wonder how much in penalty fines are paid out by ball hawking safeties versus the "hard hitting" ones? I wonder if there is a big difference in the numbers?

I wuv maff.

I got lost after the first question can anyone break this down... shoulda taken football for junkies 101....

Atlas
04-26-2005, 11:08 PM
What makes you think he will be better than Nick Harris?


Nick Harris is still punting in the NFL maybe Shanny shouldn't have cut him.

Mile High Shack
04-27-2005, 06:17 AM
Nick Harris is still punting in the NFL maybe Shanny shouldn't have cut him.

I don't think he was any better than Ruin (yes I spelled it that way on purpose) though.......so it was kinda waste of a 4th rounder.

Nuggets4
04-27-2005, 08:02 AM
Agreed...

Question: How do you get back 100 yards from penalties, 100 yards from missed opportunities on turnovers, 100 yards from missed tackles, 100 yards from bad punts, 100 yards from bad kick offs, 100 yards from mistakes on special teams covered, 100 yards from bad field position and 100 yards from not having a KR/PR guy?

*************LOTS OF STUFF DELETED FOR SPACE*************

I wuv maff.

Is the answer 7?

Haroldthebarrel
04-27-2005, 09:17 AM
Nah, think the answer is more like 42;)

Mile High Shack
04-27-2005, 09:21 AM
Nah, think the answer is more like 42;)
But…what is the question? ;)

Odysseus
04-27-2005, 09:23 AM
Broncos | Ernster Could See Holding Duties - from www.KFFL.com
Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:20:07 -0700

Andrew Mason, of DenverBroncos.com, reports Denver Broncos P Paul Ernster, a 2005 seventh-round selection, could be used as the team's placekick holder this season.

1. Punter
2. Kick off
3. Place kick holder

This stuff is too good to be true. If he makes the team this could be good.

Haroldthebarrel
04-27-2005, 09:32 AM
I think the question is: "how many miles can a man walk down...", but in this instance it could just as well we:"How many corners can Shanahan draft now, before he can find his man". :)

Mile High Shack
04-27-2005, 09:37 AM
I think the question is: "how many miles can a man walk down...", but in this instance it could just as well we:"How many corners can Shanahan draft now, before he can find his man". :)
Much better question than what do you get when you multiply 6 by 7

Odysseus
04-27-2005, 09:57 AM
Much better question than what do you get when you multiply 6 by 7

Gus Frerotte?