Mello

[watermock]

Remember when Mock told you that Mello was a better pick than LeBawn?

It's so amazing to watch ESPN throw HeBrawn into the highlights and have Stephen A. Smith defend his idiocy.

ESPN is still spinning DEBRAWN.

God its funny to watch that moron eat crap.

Well, Kobe got what he wanted, how he can cry about his wife's cyst.

[FADERPROOF]

Umm...you're an idiot if you thought it was a better pick.

[Pendejo]

Carmelo is a good player...but James is a phenom.

Anthony is on a better team.

[FADERPROOF]

Carmelo is a good player...but James is a phenom.

Anthony is on a better team.

Exactly correct.

[azbroncfan]

LeBron is better than Mello. Not that Mello isn't a good player but as someone else pointed out LeBron is a freak.

[orange 4 life]

i think right now only time will tell. lebron is certainly the more dominating individual player, but mello doesnt have to dominate on an individual level. in fact, he'd only hurt the team if he did.

the nuggets are winning, and thats that matters.

sam adams on 950 the fan said "the nuggets have won 30 of their last 29. thats right, theyve won more games than theyve played."

it cracked me up, because it sure feels that way doesnt it?

[watermock]

this is idiotic.

Are you people blind?

Are you so brainwashed by ESPN that you can't see who is the better player?

Mello dumps in 25/7 every night and is so quiet.

Tell me what LeBrawn has done lately, yeah, he can dump in 40 and lose.

I said it before, and I will say it again. Mello is the best draft choice in ages for the Nuggets.

It's amusing people are still arguing about it at this point. The team runs better than any in the NBA. Go ahead and tell me where LeBrawn is next week.

[watermock]

sam adams on 950 the fan said "the nuggets have won 30 of their last 29. thats right, theyve won more games than theyve played."

Go nuggies!

[watermock]

Houston is sweating this game.

[orange 4 life]

that was kinda my point mock.

if mello played on a sh!t team, would he be throwing down 40?

yeah, i think he probably would.
if lebron played on the nuggs, would we be better than we are now?

honestly, i dont think so.

lebron has proved he can dominate as an individual, but individual accomplishents arent the point of team sports.

[FADERPROOF]

this is idiotic.

Are you people blind?

Are you so brainwashed by ESPN that you can't see who is the better player?

Mello dumps in 25/7 every night and is so quiet.

Tell me what LeBrawn has done lately, yeah, he can dump in 40 and lose.

I said it before, and I will say it again. Mello is the best draft choice in ages for the Nuggets.

It's amusing people are still arguing about it at this point. The team runs better than any in the NBA. Go ahead and tell me where LeBrawn is next week.

You're ther one that's blind. LeBron is now reaching top 5 status, Melo is a great player but he's not up there.

Could he be eventually? Certainly, this is only his 2nd year in the league and he is stepping his game up big time.

LeBron is still being mentioned as an MVP candidate, why? Because he is a superstar on a team hat sucks, and people know that the Cavs would be god aweful if it weren't for him on this team, he brings the only dignity to that team.
LeBron is 3rd in the league in scoring, 7th in the league in assists, 30th in rebounds, and 2nd in minutes played, all of those stats are above Carmelo.

Yes, Anthoy is a great player, as is Dwayne Wade, but your argument doesnt hold any water if you just want to compare teams, because the Nuggets have a much better team.

[FADERPROOF]

that was kinda my point mock.

if mello played on a sh!t team, would he be throwing down 40?

yeah, i think he probably would.
if lebron played on the nuggs, would we be better than we are now?

honestly, i dont think so.

lebron has proved he can dominate as an individual, but individual accomplishents arent the point of team sports.

What do you say about James' 7.3 assists per game then? Individual stat that means he can dish it off to his teammates(who aren't as good as Carmelo's team) and they can score with it.

[Paladin]

Er.... Mock.....er.....You are the one who started this thread and is therefor "arguing."

I don't care who they say is "better." Depends on what "measurables" you use. Mello is perfect fo the Nuggets, and they are winning. Mello fits the Nugget' team concept very well.

James' skill sets are impressive. But the team is losing. His skill sets are such that the team suffers. The Cavs have not team concept. Therefor, they lose. They may need to find role players to keep James out there. Problem is that the team will continue to lose, and James will leave after three more years, and the Cavs will be no where. Again.

Enjoy the floor show while you can!

[yavoon]

haha only a denver board could convince themselves that lebron is worse than carmelo=[. wow. impressive ****.

[FADERPROOF]

. They may need to find role players to keep James out there.

Just the opposite, we need a premiere shooter(like Michael Redd) to come to Cleveland in order for the Cavs to be successful. Role players won't get it done, cause we have role players now and we're losing, we need another guy that can shoot the basketball in order to be a winning team...and playing defense wouldn't hurt either.

[watermock]

In a couple days LeBrawn's season will be over.

That is bottom line. Stephen A. Smith can bitch about it all he wants.

I called this two years ago.

Go play with it. Want to know why I am raising a stink? Idiots are still sucking LeBrawns balls, that's why.

They are still sucking Kobe's sweaty balls too.

Both are going to rub their nutsack in a week.

Maybe you don't understand reality.

K-Mart and Mello are the hottest thing in basketball right now.

I don't care what people say. Denver is going to Roll thru San Antonio.

[Clockwork Orange]

Who cares?

You can have the better player, I'll take the better team.

[FADERPROOF]

In a couple days LeBrawn's season will be over.

That is bottom line. Stephen A. Smith can bitch about it all he wants.

I called this two years ago.

Go play with it. Want to know why I am raising a stink? Idiots are still sucking LeBrawns balls, that's why.

They are still sucking Kobe's sweaty balls too.

Both are going to rub their nutsack in a week.

Maybe you don't understand reality.

K-Mart and Mello are the hottest thing in basketball right now.

I don't care what people say. Denver is going to Roll thru San Antonio.

Since you're going by team record, wouldnt Darko Milicic and Dwayne Wade be better than both Carmelo and LeBron considering the Pistons won the title last year and the Heat have the best overall recoerd this year?

Thos are your standards right there, stick to them.

[watermock]

Look, all I said was that Mello was the best choice for Denver in a decade.

I said that when he was drafted. Your yapping about Darko and Dwayne Wade?

Sit down and shut up.

I could beat you down on so many levels it's not even funny.

Darko and Dwayne Wade?

[watermock]

The reason the Heat has the best record isn't because of LeBrawn or Darko.

His name is Shaq you moron.

[azbroncfan]

this is idiotic.

Are you people blind?

Are you so brainwashed by ESPN that you can't see who is the better player?

Mello dumps in 25/7 every night and is so quiet.

Tell me what LeBrawn has done lately, yeah, he can dump in 40 and lose.

I said it before, and I will say it again. Mello is the best draft choice in ages for the Nuggets.

It's amusing people are still arguing about it at this point. The team runs better than any in the NBA. Go ahead and tell me where LeBrawn is next week.
You probably said the same thing about Jordon before he had a team around him too.

[FADERPROOF]

The reason the Heat has the best record isn't because of LeBrawn or Darko.

His name is Shaq you moron.

No ****, I'm just saying if you want to make the "Carmelo is better because his team is better" then you would have to include the other players in that draft as well.

It's not a hard concept, especially since you started up the damn thing.

LeBron is the better player, Carmelo is on the better team, got it?

[watermock]

And when did Lebawn or Darko play for a winning team, and WTF does that have to do with anything.

I gave you facts. I didn't bring up Shaq in the east, you did.

[azbroncfan]

When I last looked Darko got a ring last year. Mello is light years ahead of Darko though in my opinion.

[FADERPROOF]

You probably said the same thing about Jordon before he had a team around him too.

I'm sure, Jordan's 6 championships seems to erase the fact that he didnt win one until his 8th season in the league, and thats when guy named Scottie Pippen was there.

Before Jordan had a team around him, Bulls didnt win jack ****, put a team arounda superstar and they rattled off title after title.

[watermock]

No ****, I'm just saying if you want to make the "Carmelo is better because his team is better" then you would have to include the other players in that draft as well.

It's not a hard concept, especially since you started up the damn thing.

LeBron is the better player, Carmelo is on the better team, got it?

No, I ain't "got it". Mello is the better player, period. Just because you have LeBrawns T-shirt jersey doesn't impress me.

Mello is close to throwing down triple doubles. So whatever.

[FADERPROOF]

And when did Lebawn or Darko play for a winning team, and WTF does that have to do with anything.

I gave you facts. I didn't bring up Shaq in the east, you did.

I gave you plenty of facts, like how LeBron has better numbers in every stat, how's that for some facts?

[orange 4 life]

What do you say about James' 7.3 assists per game then? Individual stat that means he can dish it off to his teammates(who aren't as good as Carmelo's team) and they can score with it.

two things.

one, i didnt say carmelo was better.
two, if a player is that dominant on a poor team, its not amazing that he has good assist totals. essentially, he ALWAYS has the ball. if he cant shoot, he passes, and some assists are bound to come.

i said lebron is the more dominant individual player.
i also said i thought carmelo would be able to score 30 and 40 if his team was that bad.
nothing to get up in arms about.

most important point i made is that time will tell.
right now the nuggets are winning, carmelo is a big reason why, and thats all that matters to me.

jake

[FADERPROOF]

No, I ain't "got it". Mello is the better player, period. Just because you have LeBrawns T-shirt jersey doesn't impress me.

Mello is close to throwing down triple doubles. So whatever.

Please, show me fact then, other than "Carmelo is on the better team."

LeBron is beating him in every statistical category that there is, so how is Carmelo better?

[watermock]

I find it amazing your talking crap when Mellos' team is 21-2 since the break.

Now listen to me Jr., LeBrawn and Kobe will be sitting this one out. Got that yet?

[-Slap-]

I wish Memphis would have won the Lottery. Jerry West sure as hell wouldn't be missing the playoffs with LeBron James on his roster. The Nuggets are just lucky that Detroit blew the Grizzlies Lottery-unprotected second overall pick and left Melo on the board.

[FADERPROOF]

two things.

one, i didnt say carmelo was better.
two, if a player is that dominant on a poor team, its not amazing that he has good assist totals. essentially, he ALWAYS has the ball. if he cant shoot, he passes, and some assists are bound to come.

i said lebron is the more dominant individual player.
i also said i thought carmelo would be able to score 30 and 40 if his team was that bad.
nothing to get up in arms about.

most important point i made is that time will tell.
right now the nuggets are winning, carmelo is a big reason why, and thats all that matters to me.

jake


I'm not up in arms, it just seemed like you were saying that all LeBron does is shoot the ball and thats why he scores so much, which is false consdering his assists per game.

[FADERPROOF]

I find it amazing your talking crap when Mellos' team is 21-2 since the break.

Now listen to me Jr., LeBrawn and Kobe will be sitting this one out. Got that yet?

AGAIN, you bring up the team and the record, is that all you have?

I'm not talking crap at all, Ive clearly stated that Melo is a good player on a good team and hes a big reason why the Nuggets are doing good.

But to say he is better than LeBron is false, and all you can come up with is "Well, the Nuggets will be in the playoffs, LeBron's team won't."

Good argument, drink another one.

[yavoon]

I wish Memphis would have won the Lottery. Jerry West sure as hell wouldn't be missing the playoffs with LeBron James on his roster. The Nuggets are just lucky that Detroit blew the Grizzlies Lottery-unprotected second overall pick and left Melo on the board.

if the pistons had a do over I'm pretty sure they'd take bosh, not mello.

[watermock]

Noone is dishing LeBrawn.

I'm just sick and tired of not giving Mello his due. He's become a complete player, and so has K-Mart.

I have not been this high on the Nuggies since Mutumbo was beating the crap out of Seattle twenty years ago.

This is the team Doug Moe dreamed about.

[-Slap-]

if the pistons had a do over I'm pretty sure they'd take bosh, not mello.

I guess that would be the one way they could surpass their original error.

[yavoon]

I guess that would be the one way they could surpass their original error.

not been watching bosh eh?

[orange 4 life]

I wish Memphis would have won the Lottery. Jerry West sure as hell wouldn't be missing the playoffs with LeBron James on his roster. The Nuggets are just lucky that Detroit blew the Grizzlies Lottery-unprotected second overall pick and left Melo on the board.

boy thats the truth.

before the draft, we kept hearing about darko, and up until just before the pick, i just couldnt believe detroit would be that stupid.
thankfully they were.

also slap, you keep running from the 6-10 comment.
i know you were pissed at the time, but i'd be interested to know what you think NOW.
if even TWO of the 4 cleveland linemen pan out, we'll have a pretty impressive line.
trevors back, the offense looks stronger than a year ago, and now with the moves on the line, the ian gold acquisition is looking pretty strong.
what say you?

[orange 4 life]

I'm not up in arms, it just seemed like you were saying that all LeBron does is shoot the ball and thats why he scores so much, which is false consdering his assists per game.

didnt mean to give that impression.
i think lebron is a great player, i just think its hard to tell HOW good he'll end up being when he's stuck on that team.
its ALOT easier to put up numbers (assists included) when youre the ONLY focus of the offense.

[yavoon]

boy thats the truth.

before the draft, we kept hearing about darko, and up until just before the pick, i just couldnt believe detroit would be that stupid.
thankfully they were.

also slap, you keep running from the 6-10 comment.
i know you were pissed at the time, but i'd be interested to know what you think NOW.
if even TWO of the 4 cleveland linemen pan out, we'll have a pretty impressive line.
trevors back, the offense looks stronger than a year ago, and now with the moves on the line, the ian gold acquisition is looking pretty strong.
what say you?

to be fair to darko everyone knew he was a project. and honestly he gets zero minutes a game. I dont think ppl really even know how good or bad he is.

but yah right now it seems like detroit got the poop of the top 5 that year.

[-Slap-]

boy thats the truth.

before the draft, we kept hearing about darko, and up until just before the pick, i just couldnt believe detroit would be that stupid.
thankfully they were.

also slap, you keep running from the 6-10 comment.
i know you were pissed at the time, but i'd be interested to know what you think NOW.
if even TWO of the 4 cleveland linemen pan out, we'll have a pretty impressive line.
trevors back, the offense looks stronger than a year ago, and now with the moves on the line, the ian gold acquisition is looking pretty strong.
what say you?

Gold is a ****ing queer. Anyone who likes him is a ****ing queer.

[FADERPROOF]

didnt mean to give that impression.
i think lebron is a great player, i just think its hard to tell HOW good he'll end up being when he's stuck on that team.
its ALOT easier to put up numbers (assists included) when youre the ONLY focus of the offense.

I can agree with that, we saw it with Jordan even, wasnt until he got a coach and a supporting cast that his legacy started up. Hoping its the same here with LeBron, but in if it doesnt happen in a year or two then we'll be seeing him wear a Knicks jersey instead.

[Play2win]

Remember when Mock told you that Mello was a better pick than LeBawn?

It's so amazing to watch ESPN throw HeBrawn into the highlights and have Stephen A. Smith defend his idiocy.

ESPN is still spinning DEBRAWN.

God its funny to watch that moron eat crap.

Well, Kobe got what he wanted, how he can cry about his wife's cyst.

I just love it when MOCK blows his own, um, er, Whistle... ::)

[Play2win]

JORDAN was alway great. He was never less than shining in full greatness. The only person I equate to him is DR. J.

[Nuggets4]

Worst. Thread. Ever.

Melo will, at one point, be a top 5 player in the league. LeBron will be, at one point, a top 5 player of all time.

Mock, stick to threads about your cat.

[Play2win]

Worst. Thread. Ever.

I agree, because it is about NBA Basketball...

[RhymesayersDU]

Is there a rule somewhere that says you can only like one player, and can't like others?

This whole argument is idiotic.

First off, yes, LeBron is better than Carmelo.

But for Christ's sake, that's like saying "Jordan is better than Magic Johnson." The point is, so what if he was? Magic Johnson was damn great too.

There's no shame in being 2nd to LeBron... As stated, he's a phenom. And I've seen the Cavs play a little bit... If I was LeBron, I wouldn't pass the ball, ever. That team is crap. There's only so much a 20 year old can do. He's going to be great, especially if they give him a real #2.

Melo is a good player, and he will be great if he continues like he has this second half of the season. LeBron is the better player right now, and assuming he continues to be hungry and improve, he always will be. But that doesn't mean Melo isn't good.

I still don't understand, when people say "LeBron is great" that it gets turned around as a diss to Melo, and vice versa. It's possible to have two great players. Yeah, scary I know.

[-Slap-]

Is there a rule somewhere that says you can only like one player, and can't like others?

This whole argument is idiotic.

First off, yes, LeBron is better than Carmelo.

But for Christ's sake, that's like saying "Jordan is better than Magic Johnson." The point is, so what if he was? Magic Johnson was damn great too.

There's no shame in being 2nd to LeBron... As stated, he's a phenom. And I've seen the Cavs play a little bit... If I was LeBron, I wouldn't pass the ball, ever. That team is crap. There's only so much a 20 year old can do. He's going to be great, especially if they give him a real #2.

Melo is a good player, and he will be great if he continues like he has this second half of the season. LeBron is the better player right now, and assuming he continues to be hungry and improve, he always will be. But that doesn't mean Melo isn't good.

I still don't understand, when people say "LeBron is great" that it gets turned around as a diss to Melo, and vice versa. It's possible to have two great players. Yeah, scary I know.

Good post, except Jordan wasn't better than Magic.

[RhymesayersDU]

Good post, except Jordan wasn't better than Magic.
I personally believe Jordan was the greatest ever, but I was just using two great players as an example. It's definately up for debate, Magic was awesome. Sad his career got cut short.

[orange 4 life]

Good post, except Jordan wasn't better than Magic.

well waddya know. i was going to type the exact same thing. you beat me too it.

as for your other comment, well, what can i say?
i guess im a bronco fan and a queer, because i think ian gold will help quite alot.
we wont get into what you are for spouting off about 6-10 records and then not addressing the comment again afterwards, but a few words come to mind. ;D

[-Slap-]

well waddya know. i was going to type the exact same thing. you beat me too it.

as for your other comment, well, what can i say?
i guess im a bronco fan and a queer, because i think ian gold will help quite alot.
we wont get into what you are for spouting off about 6-10 records and then not addressing the comment again afterwards, but a few words come to mind. ;D

Please, Jake, you've been shooting spitwads at me ever since I made that comment. Total bull**** that I never addressed it afterwards. I almost immediately amended it to 7-9, which seems reasonable since the Broncos and Pryce both buckled. If the defense is any better next season, it will be due to the return of a healthy Pryce to the lineup.

I'm glad you're shooting for a .500 return on Patterson's Pound Puppies. Seems optimistic, but then again, if you employ the same type of grading scale with them that Ian Fool's Gold enjoys, I'm sure you'll consider them all near Pro Bowl level.

[watermock]

Gold is a ****ing queer. Anyone who likes him is a ****ing queer.

I think Slap's opinion on Gold is pretty well documented.

[Rascal]

I say James is slightly, ever so slightly, better then Melo. If Cleveland had a brain, which I doubt based on their coaching decisions, they would hurry up and get a half decent team around him and a coach like Karl to help continue his growth.

Melo will win a championship before James. Melo doesn't have to the superstar on the nuggets, but James does.

Maybe we can trade our first two picks and say...Nene for James. I'd take that :)

[-Slap-]

I've been trying not to be that rude about it, but Jake seems to want to taunt me about the prodigal son on totally unrelated threads.

[Play2win]

Good post, except Jordan wasn't better than Magic.
I would take JORDAN 10 times before I even thought of Johnson.

There were nights (many) that, no matter what anyone did, Jordan was unstoppable and would score on ANYBODY.

[FADERPROOF]

Is there a rule somewhere that says you can only like one player, and can't like others?

This whole argument is idiotic.

First off, yes, LeBron is better than Carmelo.

But for Christ's sake, that's like saying "Jordan is better than Magic Johnson." The point is, so what if he was? Magic Johnson was damn great too.

There's no shame in being 2nd to LeBron... As stated, he's a phenom. And I've seen the Cavs play a little bit... If I was LeBron, I wouldn't pass the ball, ever. That team is crap. There's only so much a 20 year old can do. He's going to be great, especially if they give him a real #2.

Melo is a good player, and he will be great if he continues like he has this second half of the season. LeBron is the better player right now, and assuming he continues to be hungry and improve, he always will be. But that doesn't mean Melo isn't good.

I still don't understand, when people say "LeBron is great" that it gets turned around as a diss to Melo, and vice versa. It's possible to have two great players. Yeah, scary I know.

I'm hoping that the Nuggets playoff run does end this, but I see a lot of animosity towards LeBron from some Nuggets fan because of the rookie of the year voting last year. Seemed that it was all cool until Carmelo didn't win ROY and James did, then it turned ugly.

I have no problem with Carmelo, I've kissed his ass a couple times already in this thread about how good of a player he is, but I feel that the heat between the two fan bases stems from the rookie of the year voting.

[-Slap-]

I would just feel pretty sick if I was a Cavs fan right now.

You know what, though, they can take heart. Michael Jordan got really pissed off at the Bulls management after he came back from the leg injury in his second season. He accused the organization of trying to tank on purpose and said they were "jerking (him) around big time."

Things all worked out, obviously.

[-Slap-]

I would take JORDAN 10 times before I even thought of Johnson.

There were nights (many) that, no matter what anyone did, Jordan was unstoppable and would score on ANYBODY.

And it still took him seven years to win anything. While Los Angeles, Boston, Detroit and Philly were powers, Michael was exiting the playoffs year after year. Once the league was watered down, Jordan had his time. He was also smart enough to use the Nike money to subsidize himself and cut the Bulls a big salary cap advantage over everybody else.

[minibronco]

As Lebron James' contract expires this year, there is a large possibility that he will be going to another team- a brighter team where he can shine. Cleveland has been a stepping stone for him, "college" for him in the NBA, and he will be ready to graduate and play along big stars next year.

DO you think he will leave?

[-Slap-]

As Lebron James' contract expires this year, there is a large possibility that he will be going to another team- a brighter team where he can shine. Cleveland has been a stepping stone for him, "college" for him in the NBA, and he will be ready to graduate and play along big stars next year.

DO you think he will leave?

He's Cleveland's property through the 2006-07 season. He should accept less money the way Jordan did so he can afford some better teammates. Hell, Nike and every other evil empire is handing him $50 million every time he turns around.

[FADERPROOF]

I would just feel pretty sick if I was a Cavs fan right now.



I feel sick, but it's something I'm used to. When I was 7 years old and saw Jordan fire an 18 footer over Craig Ehlo with no time remaining to win the series, I thought it was just an unlucky break. Since then Ive just grown accustom to the Cavs ****ing everything up, both on the court and in the front office.

[RhymesayersDU]

DF, perhaps you're right. Although, they should have been Co-ROYs, IMO. Identical stats, and Melo took his team to the playoffs. I don't think Melo deserved it outright by himself, like some do, but at the same time, neither did 'Bron.

And minibronco, that's a good question, on if he will leave. The one thing the Cavs have going for them, is he's from the area. A lot of young guys dream of growing up and playing for their hometown team, leading them places, etc. LeBron might stay in Cleveland feeling loyal to them, his city, etc.

[FADERPROOF]

As Lebron James' contract expires this year, there is a large possibility that he will be going to another team- a brighter team where he can shine. Cleveland has been a stepping stone for him, "college" for him in the NBA, and he will be ready to graduate and play along big stars next year.

DO you think he will leave?

He has 2 more years on his contract, as slap said, 2007 is when he is eligible to be a free agent.

[FADERPROOF]

DF, perhaps you're right. Although, they should have been Co-ROYs, IMO. Identical stats, and Melo took his team to the playoffs. I don't think Melo deserved it outright by himself, like some do, but at the same time, neither did 'Bron.

And minibronco, that's a good question, on if he will leave. The one thing the Cavs have going for them, is he's from the area. A lot of young guys dream of growing up and playing for their hometown team, leading them places, etc. LeBron might stay in Cleveland feeling loyal to them, his city, etc.

I wouldnt have had a problem with Co-ROY's, as you said they both had identical stats. It just seemed that Nuggets fans at the time were up in arms about Carmelo not winning it and saying that James didn't deserve it, so obviously then Cavs fans are going to defend LeBron, and the heat starts up.

Seems like it is dying down now, winning and getting to the playoffs cures all problems, plus it's a year removed and it would just be stupid to continue a rookie of the year argument as these guys go into their 3rd season.

[watermock]

Nothing has changed except your own perception. Stone cold fact is as good as LeBrawn is, he's treated with slobber, while Mello just puts up his 25/7/5 and wins.

Here is my rub. That asshole Stephen A. Smith keeps rubbing his nose up his butt. I'm sick of it. And he still loves to rub his dick on Kobe.

Reality Check here.

Shaq rules the east and Denver is making noise.

[FADERPROOF]

Nothing has changed except your own perception. Stone cold fact is as good as LeBrawn is, he's treated with slobber, while Mello just puts up his 25/7/5 and wins.

Here is my rub. That asshole Stephen A. Smith keeps rubbing his nose up his butt. I'm sick of it. And he still loves to rub his dick on Kobe.

Reality Check here.

Shaq rules the east and Denver is making noise.

If you hate the guy so much, why do you sit there and watch him to hear what he has to say?

[RhymesayersDU]

If you hate the guy so much, why do you sit there and watch him to hear what he has to say?

Exactly. I've never seen somebody with such a hard-on for another person who they claim to hate.

[watermock]

Excuse me Biatch?

I didn't open this thread dumbass. I just ruled it.

Now I said Mello was the best pick in the draft, and now, you eat dung right homie?

And who said I hated LeBrawn anyway? I didn't so shut your trap up before I really tell you where he is headed.

So what were you telling me again?

I told you stone cold, Mello was the best pick in the draft, and I told you people two years ago.

What are you going to do about it LeBrawn or Kobe or Timberpuppies?

They are all going to sit are they not?

Your kidding me right?

[watermock]

You really want to know what I think?

You go back two years and look what I said about Mello, that he was better than LeBrawn, and you go figure it out.

While ESPN is sucking his balls, the Nuggets are blowing past everyone but the Suns. Now that is REALITY.

Now go catch a clue.

[FADERPROOF]

Excuse me Biatch?

I didn't open this thread dumbass. I just ruled it.

Now I said Mello was the best pick in the draft, and now, you eat dung right homie?

And who said I hated LeBrawn anyway? I didn't so shut your trap up before I really tell you where he is headed.

So what were you telling me again?

I told you stone cold, Mello was the best pick in the draft, and I told you people two years ago.

What are you going to do about it LeBrawn or Kobe or Timberpuppies?

They are all going to sit are they not?

Your kidding me right?


Rarely do you find someone at 2:30 PM as drunk as Mock is right now.

You bitch about how people are swining from LeBron's nutsack, and what have you done this entire thread? Oh that's right, you've been swinging from Carmelo's nutsack.

[orange 4 life]

I've been trying not to be that rude about it, but Jake seems to want to taunt me about the prodigal son on totally unrelated threads.

whatever slappy.
you have alot of solid opinions and i often enjoy discussions with you, but you can be such a raging ahole its ridiculous.
you hammer everyone when you see fit, and when you make a ridiculous 6-10 comment you run from it.
i asked you on about 5 other RELATED threads, but you wouldnt answer then, so i thought i'd ask here....without namecalling.

quit acting like a jeuvenile and stop "being rude about it".

frankly, ive always been curious as to why one signing of a player you obviously have a hard on to hate sent you so far off the deep end. also, i wondered if you'd rethought your position in light of the moves after the gold signing.
whether you LIKE ian gold or not isnt the issue. personally, i didnt think much of him after he left the first time, and i dont think he's worth what we're paying him now, BUUUUUTTTTTT, he IS a good player, he CAN help our defense, he DOES possess the ability to make plays on defense and special teams, and we did NOT sign him at the expense of defensive line help....

...and all you can say is that he's a "****ing queer" ???

[watermock]

Rarely do you find someone at 2:30 PM as drunk as Mock is right now.

You bitch about how people are swining from LeBron's nutsack, and what have you done this entire thread? Oh that's right, you've been swinging from Carmelo's nutsack.

Excuse me, but did a fart come into the room. Yeah, your swinging from his nuts, and yes, Mello is going to the playoffs. What part of this don't you understand? I'm not biatching about LeBrawn, I'm telling you that he is going to sit. Got that yet moron?

[orange 4 life]

Exactly. I've never seen somebody with such a hard-on for another person who they claim to hate.

slap and ian gold ???

[watermock]

How about Slap and Pierce the long lost MLB?

[FADERPROOF]

Excuse me, but did a fart come into the room. Yeah, your swinging from his nuts, and yes, Mello is going to the playoffs. What part of this don't you understand? I'm not biatching about LeBrawn, I'm telling you that he is going to sit. Got that yet moron?

Actually the entire Denver Nuggets team will be going to the playoffs, but again, thats not what you are talking about. You've been talking about Carmelo being the better player yet all you can say is "His team is better."

Get this for a fact, you are the only person in this entire thread, which includes other Nuggets fans, that actually believe that Carmelo was the better pick and the better player than LeBron.

I dont want to hear this "His team is going to the playoffs" **** from you, you said that he was a better player, now show me how Carmelo is individually the better player.

YOU GOT NOTHING!

[sgbfan]

you can't compare mello to lebrawn. there is no comparison. mello isn't double teamed every time he gets the ball. Mello isn't the only one on his team that can consistently score more than ten points. if you put mello into lebrawns place on the cavs, all that he would have is a 20% shooting average

[DBroncos4life]

This might be crazy but AS OF NOW the Cavs are still in the playoffs. Tell then Mock STFU.

[Paladin]

Consider this about LeBron:

"This guy sucks. He couldn't hit a bucket if he was pi$$ing in it. He adds as much to his team as another peanut would to a jar of mixed nuts. He just shows off on his little jumpy shoes while real men are winning games elsewhere. LeBron was the worse draft pick ever for any team in the history of the NBA. He would make a CBA team look bad."

That's about LeBron. And I am sure I have your attention. LISTEN UP!!!!!

Now, what I was saying is that for the Nuggets and at the time, Melo was the better pick for the Nuggets than LeBron was for the Cavs. If I were talking that Mello is "Better Than LeBron" I would be saying stuff like the above. But I am not. The better pick for a team does not have to be identified as the "best player" as compared to other players. Now, the wisdom of the pick is showing up. In that draft, many people in Denver were hoping to get Melo, NOT LeBron. The Nuggets are winning. They are a much better team than the Cavs. They are the better team and Mello is part of that team. And I contend that Melo helped to elevate that team to it's current level (but it took a George Karl to help them get there). The Cavs are sinking, drowning, losing and just flat out are miserable. Period.

The Cavs will be sitting at home watching the playoffs. Melo will be in there having fun, LeBron will be home having none.

If you pay attention, there really is no argument here.

[sgbfan]

the only help that lebron has is fouled out after 15 min. of the game

[-Slap-]

whatever slappy.
you have alot of solid opinions and i often enjoy discussions with you, but you can be such a raging ahole its ridiculous.
you hammer everyone when you see fit, and when you make a ridiculous 6-10 comment you run from it.
i asked you on about 5 other RELATED threads, but you wouldnt answer then, so i thought i'd ask here....without namecalling.

quit acting like a jeuvenile and stop "being rude about it".

frankly, ive always been curious as to why one signing of a player you obviously have a hard on to hate sent you so far off the deep end. also, i wondered if you'd rethought your position in light of the moves after the gold signing.
whether you LIKE ian gold or not isnt the issue. personally, i didnt think much of him after he left the first time, and i dont think he's worth what we're paying him now, BUUUUUTTTTTT, he IS a good player, he CAN help our defense, he DOES possess the ability to make plays on defense and special teams, and we did NOT sign him at the expense of defensive line help....

...and all you can say is that he's a "****ing queer" ???

Man, you're a dumbass, Jake. Hey, stupid, what do you call this exactly: "so i thought i'd ask here....without namecalling.

quit acting like a jeuvenile"

Honestly, are you this ****ing stupid?

I think this is the funniest thing you've spouted on here since the time you passionately defended the honesty of used car salesmen...right before your old bosses screwed you blind.

[DBroncos4life]

CA's stats: Career points 1526 Career Ast 197 Career shooting % .429
LJ's stats: Career points 2153 Career Ast 512 Career shooting % .475


Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[watermock]

How amusing.

The home team is in the playoffs according to Steven A. Smith?

by a pubic hair?

YOU STFU because Cleveland isn't going anywhere and you should know better to even talk crap.

Tiebreaker as an 8th seed in the east?

WTF are you talking about.

[FADERPROOF]

Consider this about LeBron:

"This guy sucks. He couldn't hit a bucket if he was pi$$ing in it. He adds as much to his team as another peanut would to a jar of mixed nuts. He just shows off on his little jumpy shoes while real men are winning games elsewhere. LeBron was the worse draft pick ever for any team in the history of the NBA. He would make a CBA team look bad."

That's about LeBron. And I am sure I have your attention. LISTEN UP!!!!!

Now, what I was saying is that for the Nuggets and at the time, Melo was the better pick for the Nuggets than LeBron was for the Cavs. If I were talking that Mello is "Better Than LeBron" I would be saying stuff like the above. But I am not. The better pick for a team does not have to be identified as the "best player" as compared to other players. Now, the wisdom of the pick is showing up. In that draft, many people in Denver were hoping to get Melo, NOT LeBron. The Nuggets are winning. They are a much better team than the Cavs. They are the better team and Mello is part of that team. And I contend that Melo helped to elevate that team to it's current level (but it took a George Karl to help them get there). The Cavs are sinking, drowning, losing and just flat out are miserable. Period.

The Cavs will be sitting at home watching the playoffs. Melo will be in there having fun, LeBron will be home having none.

If you pay attention, there really is no argument here.


Even that I disagree with, because if the Nuggets had the first overall pick then ther's no way they would've taken Carmelo with James still on the board.

And if the Cavs got Carmelo instead of James, we'd be no better than we are right now, we'd probably be a bit worse even.

[watermock]

CA's stats: Career points 1526 Career Ast 197 Career shooting % .429
LJ's stats: Career points 2153 Career Ast 512 Career shooting % .475


Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Explain how I dished LeBrawn again. What I said was that Mello will deliver a complete game. I don't care what you think. LeBrawn will not even see the playoffs, no matter how many fancy dunks he makes.

Want to make a bet on that one?

[sgbfan]

Consider this about LeBron:

"This guy sucks. He couldn't hit a bucket if he was pi$$ing in it. He adds as much to his team as another peanut would to a jar of mixed nuts. He just shows off on his little jumpy shoes while real men are winning games elsewhere. LeBron was the worse draft pick ever for any team in the history of the NBA. He would make a CBA team look bad."

That's about LeBron. And I am sure I have your attention. LISTEN UP!!!!!

Now, what I was saying is that for the Nuggets and at the time, Melo was the better pick for the Nuggets than LeBron was for the Cavs. If I were talking that Mello is "Better Than LeBron" I would be saying stuff like the above. But I am not. The better pick for a team does not have to be identified as the "best player" as compared to other players. Now, the wisdom of the pick is showing up. In that draft, many people in Denver were hoping to get Melo, NOT LeBron. The Nuggets are winning. They are a much better team than the Cavs. They are the better team and Mello is part of that team. And I contend that Melo helped to elevate that team to it's current level (but it took a George Karl to help them get there). The Cavs are sinking, drowning, losing and just flat out are miserable. Period.

The Cavs will be sitting at home watching the playoffs. Melo will be in there having fun, LeBron will be home having none.

If you pay attention, there really is no argument here.


so your saying that lebron hasn't helped his team elevate to the point they're at of possibly making the playoffs? Consider this, where would denver be without mello. where would the cavs be without lebron

[sgbfan]

without lebron, the cavs and the hawks would be fighting right now over ping pong balls. lebron was a much better pick for the cavs than mello was for the nuggets

[watermock]

In case you didn't notice, Cleveland will still be watching ping pong balls.

[watermock]

The Cavs will be sitting at home watching the playoffs. Melo will be in there having fun, LeBron will be home having none.

If you pay attention, there really is no argument here.

And your point is?

[sgbfan]

was this thread about 1) how mello was a better pick than lebron, or 2) about how the nuggets are in the playoffs while the cavs might not make it? Because there is no argument for the second, but sadly enough for you there's not much of an argumeent for the first either

[DBroncos4life]

Explain how I dished LeBrawn again. What I said was that Mello will deliver a complete game. I don't care what you think. LeBrawn will not even see the playoffs, no matter how many fancy dunks he makes.

Want to make a bet on that one?




yes I would. James is like what 20???? Yeah he won't make the playoffs.

[Nuggets4]

Rarely do you find someone at 2:30 PM as drunk as Mock is right now.

LOL

This thread rocks. Between Mock's drunken stupidity, people bringing in football smack out of nowhere and all of the hostility, I change my comment of "Worst. Thread. Ever." This is now the best thread ever.

Someone buy Mock another bottle of rum. It could be a fun day.

[FADERPROOF]

LOL

This thread rocks. Between Mock's drunken stupidity, people bringing in football smack out of nowhere and all of the hostility, I change my comment of "Worst. Thread. Ever." This is now the best thread ever.

Someone buy Mock another bottle of rum. It could be a fun day.

It's a tweener thread, one that could just as easily go to the horses butt as it could the ring of fame.

[RhymesayersDU]

Take it to the butt, and let's put a ban down right now on mock ever starting/coming into basketball threads drunk... He should be making racist comments right about now anyways.

[DB-Freak]

Damn

Mock must have been a middle child in his family or something.

So much need for vindication and reassurance.

[RhymesayersDU]

Damn

Mock must have been a middle child in his family or something.

So much need for vindication and reassurance.
Weirdest. Avatar. Ever.

Oddly arousing.

I mean, what?

[orange 4 life]

Man, you're a dumbass, Jake. Hey, stupid, what do you call this exactly: "so i thought i'd ask here....without namecalling.

quit acting like a jeuvenile"

Honestly, are you this ****ing stupid?

I think this is the funniest thing you've spouted on here since the time you passionately defended the honesty of used car salesmen...right before your old bosses screwed you blind.

hey retard,
i asked you to "stop being jeuvenile" AFTER your "****ing queer" comment you bitter chicken sh!t that cant back up your original idiotic comments.
good God asshole.
dont like playing nice ****face?

..and incidentally dipsh!t, "jeuvenile" isnt considered namecalling by anyone with half a brain.
what a ****ing punk you can be when you hear something you dont like.

pull the stick out of your ass and try civility.

[DB-Freak]

Weirdest. Avatar. Ever.

Oddly arousing.

I mean, what?
I find it hilarious.

[orange 4 life]

now slap, was that really necessary?

do you need a hug pal?

remember, we're supposed to be on the SAME SIDE!!!

sheesh. aggress much ~Popps~ :moody:

peace brother slap. have a great weekend :peace:

[orange 4 life]

almost forgot.

i didnt "defend used car salesmen".
i defended SOME of them.
there are good and bad.
as for OWNERS (who can do the most screwing), there seems to be more bad than good in my experience.

what slap. you think ALL car guys are rotten people?

[FADERPROOF]

This thread is ****ing priceless.

[RhymesayersDU]

This thread is ****ing priceless.

Drunken mock.... check
jake vs. slap.... check
melo vs. bron.... check
ian gold vs. the world... check
used car salesmans.... check
an avatar with a guy in a speedo.... check
5 pages.... check

[FADERPROOF]

Drunken mock.... check
jake vs. slap.... check
melo vs. bron.... check
ian gold vs. the world... check
used car salesmans.... check
an avatar with a guy in a speedo.... check
5 pages.... check

64 Nuggets threads on page 1... check ;)

(it's a joke.)

[RhymesayersDU]

64 Nuggets threads on page 1... check ;)

(it's a joke.)
hahahahahah

Shoulda known that was coming.

We've got thiss thread, the grizz thread, the rockets thread, and the #1 ranking thread...

Hey, we could have 64 threads debating about ian gold, jake plummer, and the cleveland broncos... this is definately the lesser of the evils.

[FADERPROOF]

hahahahahah

Shoulda known that was coming.

We've got thiss thread, the grizz thread, the rockets thread, and the #1 ranking thread...

Hey, we could have 64 threads debating about ian gold, jake plummer, and the cleveland broncos... this is definately the lesser of the evils.

Never know, Jake Plummer and the Cleveland Broncos defensive line may very well come up in this thread!

[RhymesayersDU]

Speaking of Jake, I'm glad he finally shaved that God forsaken beard of his.

Courtney Brown will in fact break the season sack record.

Discuss.

[FADERPROOF]

Speaking of Jake, I'm glad he finally shaved that God forsaken beard of his.

Courtney Brown will in fact break the season sack record.

Discuss.

Only way Courtney Brown breaks the sack record is by doing his teammates laundry more times than anyone else has ever done :)

[Kaylore]

Speaking of Jake, I'm glad he finally shaved that God forsaken beard of his.

Courtney Brown will in fact break the season sack record.

Discuss.
I hope he breaks out from his injury funk and starts to dominate.....like Marcus Camby did when HE JOINED US AND FINALLY PLAYED TO HIS POTENTIAL!!!!OMG WE R TEH UBER TEAM!!!! GO NUGGETS!!

[orange 4 life]

kaylore,

you like the new/old BYU uni's?

with a coach named "bronco" we cant lose!!

[Kaylore]

kaylore,

you like the new/old BYU uni's?

with a coach named "bronco" we cant lose!!
I'd like anything better than last years homo-erotic weird shoulder thingys they had. And you're right about Bronco!! ;D

My only worry is for the long term. I read a memo the admin put out talking about maintaining the moral standard of all who attend BYU. My only concern is that they won't offer athletes a chance to play there if they aren't clean as a whistle. I have problems with people being held to standard of living that they haven't personally signed on to. I would hope they'd be more leanient on the non-member students who attend there.

I don't think they should get a free pass, but asking someone who isn't mormon to act as though they are for three or four years is a tall order. I could see good athletes going somewhere else just so they don't have to deal with all that.

[orange 4 life]

true, but as was the case with todd watkins, i can see athletes PARENTS wanting them to go for the same reason!!!

[Kaylore]

true, but as was the case with todd watkins, i can see athletes PARENTS wanting them to go for the same reason!!!
I guess we'll see. At least crowton's gone.

[orange 4 life]

amen to that!!

i agree its tough to bring in recruits with the honor code, and i DO think they should go out of their way to make the non members feel welcome in every way, but do you really think they should change the rules for them?

i just dont. if you let them break honor code, you just open too much of a can of worms.
we'll see what happens, but the bottom line is that we have more non members signing than ever before.
in fact, our entire receiving corps this season will be non members!!

watkins, coats (tight end), and then we have two other speedsters (names escape me) which were all non member signings.
im excited to see a light speed BYU receiving corps.
boy, THATS terminolgy i never thought i'd say!!

[Clockwork Orange]

For the record, I have no ill feelings at all towards Lebron James. He's a great young player (and I don't throw around the word great very often). He needs to improve a lot defensively (which he will over time), but his offensive game is one of the best in the league. I'd be wary of him breaking down physically if the Cavs don't get him some help (he played all 48 minutes last night against Washington and is averaging somewhere around 42 minutes per game). In short, the Cavs need a reliable bench.

I was one who argued about the ROY voting, but I did so without slamming Lebron. He didn't vote himself into the award, so why would I hold it against him?

As for Carmelo, those who think he doesn't have a great impact on the Nuggets is someone who doesn't watch the games. Teams either double him in the post or he scores or gets to the free throw line when he's got the ball. I've lost count of how many alley oop dunks that K-Mart & Camby have received this year due to two guys in the post watching Carmelo.....when he doesn't even have the ball.

Carmelo needed a strong coach to push him and make him grow up on the court and he's got that now. He's scoring just as many points while taking less shots and his shooting % under George Karl is well over 50%, as opposed to it being under 40% under Bzdelik & Cooper. He's become worlds more efficient while not getting the ball every time down court and is deferring to his teammates a lot more. He's playing team basketball and working within the flow of the offense, all of that while improving his effort and effectiveness on the defensive end by leaps and bounds. He's nowhere near a great defensive player, but the effort and willingness to learn and improve are there......which is acceptable to me from a 20 year old.

Lebron is the better player, it doesn't bother me in the least to say that. It doesn't make Carmelo any less of an outstanding young player to admit that there's someone better than he is.

I'm perfectly happy with Carmelo, Cavs fans are happy with Lebron. All is well.

[RhymesayersDU]

For the record, I have no ill feelings at all towards Lebron James. He's a great young player (and I don't throw around the word great very often). He needs to improve a lot defensively (which he will over time), but his offensive game is one of the best in the league. I'd be wary of him breaking down physically if the Cavs don't get him some help (he played all 48 minutes last night against Washington and is averaging somewhere around 42 minutes per game). In short, the Cavs need a reliable bench.

I was one who argued about the ROY voting, but I did so without slamming Lebron. He didn't vote himself into the award, so why would I hold it against him?

As for Carmelo, those who think he doesn't have a great impact on the Nuggets is someone who doesn't watch the games. Teams either double him in the post or he scores or gets to the free throw line when he's got the ball. I've lost count of how many alley oop dunks that K-Mart & Camby have received this year due to two guys in the post watching Carmelo.....when he doesn't even have the ball.

Carmelo needed a strong coach to push him and make him grow up on the court and he's got that now. He's scoring just as many points while taking less shots and his shooting % under George Karl is well over 50%, as opposed to it being under 40% under Bzdelik & Cooper. He's become worlds more efficient while not getting the ball every time down court and is deferring to his teammates a lot more. He's playing team basketball and working within the flow of the offense, all of that while improving his effort and effectiveness on the defensive end by leaps and bounds. He's nowhere near a great defensive player, but the effort and willingness to learn and improve are there......which is acceptable to me from a 20 year old.

Lebron is the better player, it doesn't bother me in the least to say that. It doesn't make Carmelo any less of an outstanding young player to admit that there's someone better than he is.

I'm perfectly happy with Carmelo, Cavs fans are happy with Lebron. All is well.

The voice of freakin' reason, right here.

Everybody, send some rep right now.

[TheManeMan]

I was waiting for CO to make a post in this thread...good sh!t bro...well said...

Hell I really dont have a "team" to root for but, when I do watch Nugs or Cavs games on the NBA Pass...I seem to cheer for both almost equally...as BOTH players are perfect fits for their respective organization...and both players are HUGE assets for both cities, and their resurgence back to quality NBA teams...

Just for the record...I dont think either player will win a Championship in the next 3-4 years...Obviously anything could happen and I maybe wrong but, I just cant see either team in the Finals beating the teams like Miami, San Antonio, Phoenix, Detroit, Indiana and such...all of those teams will be be solid for the upcoming 4 years...

[Nuggets4]

an avatar with a guy in a speedo.... check

Not just "a guy", but Hasselhoff!

BTW, as always, CO with the post of the day.

[RhymesayersDU]

Not just "a guy", but Hasselhoff!

BTW, as always, CO with the post of the day.
Whoa, totally didn't realize that was Hasselhoff.

/watches Baywatch Nights

[Nuggets4]

Knight Rider was badass. They have a service in Boulder called Night Riders where they drive you home in your own car. One night my three buddies and I were gone and getting a ride from them and we kept busting out the "Where's Kit?" and "Where's Hasselhoff?" comments. Driver said we were the most entertaining drive he had had all night.

I take pride in that.

[FADERPROOF]

For the record, I have no ill feelings at all towards Lebron James. He's a great young player (and I don't throw around the word great very often). He needs to improve a lot defensively (which he will over time), but his offensive game is one of the best in the league. I'd be wary of him breaking down physically if the Cavs don't get him some help (he played all 48 minutes last night against Washington and is averaging somewhere around 42 minutes per game). In short, the Cavs need a reliable bench.

I was one who argued about the ROY voting, but I did so without slamming Lebron. He didn't vote himself into the award, so why would I hold it against him?

As for Carmelo, those who think he doesn't have a great impact on the Nuggets is someone who doesn't watch the games. Teams either double him in the post or he scores or gets to the free throw line when he's got the ball. I've lost count of how many alley oop dunks that K-Mart & Camby have received this year due to two guys in the post watching Carmelo.....when he doesn't even have the ball.

Carmelo needed a strong coach to push him and make him grow up on the court and he's got that now. He's scoring just as many points while taking less shots and his shooting % under George Karl is well over 50%, as opposed to it being under 40% under Bzdelik & Cooper. He's become worlds more efficient while not getting the ball every time down court and is deferring to his teammates a lot more. He's playing team basketball and working within the flow of the offense, all of that while improving his effort and effectiveness on the defensive end by leaps and bounds. He's nowhere near a great defensive player, but the effort and willingness to learn and improve are there......which is acceptable to me from a 20 year old.

Lebron is the better player, it doesn't bother me in the least to say that. It doesn't make Carmelo any less of an outstanding young player to admit that there's someone better than he is.

I'm perfectly happy with Carmelo, Cavs fans are happy with Lebron. All is well.

Not only did LeBron play all 48 minutes last night, but he's only sat out a total of like 7 or 8 minutes in the past 7 games combined, we HAVE to keep him on the court just to have a punchers chance of a winning a basketball game right now.

LeBron brings the intangible of being a winner as well, the guy just loves to play and wants to win so bad. Thursday night we were down 4 with less han a minute to go and LeBron missed a 3 pointer which virtually put the nail in our coffin, and watching the postgame conference he was almost brough to tears that he missed that shot, it mattered that much to him.

Just wish we had a whole team of LeBron's at least heart wise, instead we're stuck with Jeff McInnis, who is now wearing his practice jersey backwards so he can always remember that he plays because of the name on the back of his jersey.

I doubt we make the playoffs, we're only a game up on New Jersey, they have the tiebreaker, and we have Detroit, Boston, and Toronto to play still, 1 win max in the next 3 games we'll win.

This Cavs fan has no ill feelings at all about Carmelo, great player and is a big reason why the Nuggets have improved so much over the season. I'll be saying this a lot during the playoffs, but good luck to the Nuggets.

[fuzzy]

Remember when Mock told you that Mello was a better pick than LeBawn?

It's so amazing to watch ESPN throw HeBrawn into the highlights and have Stephen A. Smith defend his idiocy.

ESPN is still spinning DEBRAWN.

God its funny to watch that moron eat crap.

Well, Kobe got what he wanted, how he can cry about his wife's cyst.

from what I remember you were screaming about some conspiracy because the Nuggets didn't win the top pick and wasn't going to get Lebron.

[maven]

this is idiotic.

Are you people blind?

Are you so brainwashed by ESPN that you can't see who is the better player?

.

Comments like these show you do not watch the nba nor have NBA League pass.

[longhornchess]

Some of yall really need to stick to football..
LeBron is a manchild.

[TheManeMan]

Actually "The Manchild" nickname is already taken...

[watermock]

Carmelo needed a strong coach to push him and make him grow up on the court and he's got that now. He's scoring just as many points while taking less shots and his shooting % under George Karl is well over 50%, as opposed to it being under 40% under Bzdelik & Cooper. He's become worlds more efficient while not getting the ball every time down court and is deferring to his teammates a lot more. He's playing team basketball and working within the flow of the offense, all of that while improving his effort and effectiveness on the defensive end by leaps and bounds. He's nowhere near a great defensive player, but the effort and willingness to learn and improve are there......which is acceptable to me from a 20 year old.

So shoot me for being a Mello homer. I was all over that kid when he started acting out last year, and we saw what happened. King Nazi and DerFurher Moe has turned it around, and K-Mart and Mello have it working. If Camby can turn it on late, and the midget can knock down a few 3's, I don't see why this team can't run the tables in the west.

It's good to see Mello becoming a complete player finally. He still has upside and knows the taste of a championship. Mock will stand behind him, even tho he pissed me off last year...

[watermock]

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/image.php?u=2637&dateline=1113659931

Jake finally reveals the secret underwear the Mormons use so effectively.

[football idiot]

a 'great' player makes his teammates better.

a 'star' player is a product of hype, selfish play, marketing, and athletic ability.

neither of these two sophomores is anywhere near 'great' (though the term is getting more diluted every day, with sensationalist morons on TV)

great is Magic Johnson (a guy that can play all 5 positions and make the team better from anywhere on the floor) or Bird (a guy that can take a bunch of semi-decent players and turn them into a dynasty).

I'm not sure which current players even qualify. My list of maybes:

Tim Duncan
Jason Kidd
Steve Nash


Shaq is a selfish guy, but he's so damn dominant, that the right coach (and a few talented teammates willing to let him be the 'star' and play second fiddle) can win serious big games with him. Dwayne is willing to be the sidekick in ways Kobe never was. but give him a few rings and see what happens. in 2 or 3 years, Shaq will be old, hurt all the time, and still talking trash, while Dwayne is carrying that team.

who else? Kevin Garnett? the perfect example of 'star' as defined above. though on the right team he could mature and make the transition. same for Carmelo and Lebron. Kobe ain't going to make any transition. he's going to be a 'star' til he dies.

the entire NBA went to the 'star' marketing gimmick in the late 80's, because people got tired of watching the same 2 teams win it all the time. they went away from team-focused fundamental b-ball and towards the 'star-driven-marketing' philosophy that has helped them sell tickets and stay solvent. it hasn't helped the leagues competitiveness or their parity by any means. but they're making money, so they're happy.

[Nuggets4]

I think LeBron is great. He got Carlos Boozer a $60 mil contract and he's making Gooden look damn good too. It's early, but the kid could do it.

Also, if you want to talk about players that make their teammates better, watch Shawn Livingston of the Clippers. I've been pimping him for well over a year now. The kid is GREAT. The Sports Guy (ESPN.com) is constantly raving about him. He has GREAT vision, is a heady player and is already one of the best defenders in the league. Keep an eye on him.

[TheManeMan]

http://compuserve.nba.com/media/suns/livingston_workout_220.jpg


The guy who's got the best fro in the league...Coming out of high school the guy plays like he's 35 a year old vet...